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Offline Boris

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Re: bodybuilding and eating
« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2013, 07:18:23 am »
but what about fructose and the formation of triglycerides?

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« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2013, 07:59:52 am »
but what about fructose and the formation of triglycerides?


I think the sperm actually use fructose as an energy source.

http://armymedical.tpub.com/MD0579/MD05790020.htm

" Fructose energizes the sperm, and prostaglandins assistsejaculation and stimulates uterine contractions. Thus, both fructose and prostaglandinshelp sperm move to the uterine tubes where fertilization occurs.

I also think the liver can convert fructose into glycogen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fructolysis#Synthesis_of_Glycogen_from_DHAP_and_Glyceraldehyde_3_Phosphate - under 1.2
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Re: bodybuilding and eating
« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2013, 02:07:27 am »
on a raw diet it is very easy to gain muscle even when not eating so much. This is what iv noticed over time. After a heavy workout, even if i cant find good food and eat very little for a couple days my muscle will still heal and become stronger. This is due to incredible utilizabilty of raw protien as compared to cooked, you need much less to do the same thing.

as far as meat after a workout iv heard that sugar is most important directly after a workout. THis rings true for me as i always crave fruit right after a workout and dont feel like eating any meat until several hours later.

the beautiful thing about raw paleo and working out is that you dont need to worry so much about nutrition to gain muscle since all your foods go such a long way due to being raw.

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Re: bodybuilding and eating
« Reply #28 on: September 08, 2013, 02:20:49 am »
I used to be a vegetarian and devote swimmer and runner and was sick all the time, ending heavily underweight. I have been eating cooked paleo and weightlifting about 3,5 years ago. My health increased dramatically and so did my strenght. Ive gained 33 lbs/ 15 kilo doing nothing more than squats, bench presses, pull ups and deadlifts.

In the first year and a half i adhered to a very low carb paleo (less than 30gr carbs a day) cobined with IF. At first i had great results, lots of energy, i leaned down and experienced very fast musclegrowth. After a while this slowed down and eventually stopped. My energy levels went sdown (nothing compared with pre paleo, but still noticably less). Then i read Kiefer's carb Backloading and i started my paleo take on his strategy. I combined it with IF (fasting for 12 to 15 hours) Then i eat  high fat before training(and on non training days} , train in the late afternoon/evening and eat very high carb, high protein after that. With the carbs mainly coming from cooked root vegetables. The results have been amazing. energy levels restored super fast, fat burning accelerated and i gained more and much faster musclemass than before. I started this 9 months ago and the results are still as good. I managed to bring my deadlift at 2x bodyweight (352lbs)

Just very recently i decided to take the step to raw Paleo and now i find myself with a difficulty of macronutrient intake. Where to get my carbs? I dont want to overconsume fruit. And i dont want to go back to very low carb/ keto, or do you think VLC would have a different effect on my metabolism when  i eat raw? I do admit that i am a wee worried for loosing my gains. Been a week on raw now and i noted an increase in strenght or at least a stagnation, defo no inclination, also my weight didnt change. I did note an increase in overall energy and happiness :) But this week have been raw meats, fish, organs + coconut oil, olive oil + fruits, honey, and in the first 3 days also some cooked roots, but started leaving these out now. So what should i do?

Low carb or exchanging the roots with fruit and honey?
   You sound low in animal fats, animal or fish omega threes.   And then probably fats in general, meaning your body is trying to get it's energy from converting the excess protein.    Deriving good amounts of energy from fat takes patience and practice, as it's so much easier to just down some sugar something and raise blood sugar.

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« Reply #29 on: September 08, 2013, 03:23:53 am »
very true. it definitely takes time for the body to adapt to burning mostly raw fat but the change is extremely worth it.
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Re: bodybuilding and eating
« Reply #30 on: November 20, 2013, 03:37:15 am »
So, what ratio are you guys who actually do strength training combined with bodybuilding eating?
I'm currently low on animal fat, upping animal fat would mean $$ for me probably (not too much but need some investing on freezer)

What does animal fat do to you, with regards to bodybuilding/strength training per say?
I know for one it provides energy and boosts testosterone, what else?

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« Reply #31 on: November 20, 2013, 10:43:51 am »
I don't think much about it. Just eat well and how you want, and push yourself to your absolute limits. The intensity will force you to change.

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« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2014, 03:21:36 pm »
I don't see how anyone would be in great health if they are only eating once a day!
 

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« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2015, 11:55:43 pm »
Bodybuilding on zero carb, particularly raw, is fantastic, especially with the Warrior Diet component. Why did I waste so many years eating carbs and eating mini meals  -v.

Forgive me if I sounds naïve, I am new to this site and to RFD, what is the warrior diet?

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« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2015, 12:03:25 am »
Forgive me if I sounds naïve, I am new to this site and to RFD, what is the warrior diet?


http://www.warriordiet.com/

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« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2015, 11:07:43 am »
do the work out and eat the protein powder. caution on the diet.plus. the   L- carnitine  or the transliteration of kanitin, is a kind of amino acids promoting fat into energy, red meat is the main source of L-carnitine, non-toxic side effects on the human body. by take this supps. eating less meat and build muscle up. cheers.

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« Reply #36 on: July 01, 2015, 02:22:52 pm »
Forgive me if I sounds naïve, I am new to this site and to RFD, what is the warrior diet?


Thanks for asking the question, I enjoyed finding out about the Warrior Diet from a Western A Price Foundation review, in the comments there are heaps of people raving about skipping breakfast and eating little throughout the day, having a lot of exercise, and eating a large meal / meals in the evening:

http://www.westonaprice.org/book-reviews/the-warrior-diet-by-ori-hofmekler/

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Re: bodybuilding and eating
« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2016, 07:42:47 pm »
Eating meals is necessary when it comes to bodybuilding. However, a nutrition expert would guide you in a better way which, how and when the food you have to take. 

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« Reply #38 on: February 25, 2017, 05:52:04 pm »
For building muscle. You needs to follow an all-round diet plan.

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« Reply #39 on: May 26, 2017, 05:04:33 am »
When I was in my 30's I did very well bodybuilding, eating raw eggs. I used to consume a dozen or two a day and a few people thought I was on steroids. Now I will be 60 in less than 9 months and nearly everyone accuses me of being on them but my secret is raw organ meat smoothies. I tried the raw eggs and they don't work nearly as good for me as they did in my 30's maybe eggs aren't as good as they used to be. I still do them once in a while. I can really tell the difference and feel like crap when I go off my diet. Bodybuilding is way more related to diet than exercise. I don't even feel like exercising when I go off my diet.