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Off Topic / Finance and security
« on: June 26, 2017, 06:48:47 am »
We all know non-human species have an abudant amount of locations to sleep, carry on, and live their lives. Likewise there's no shortage of food for them to get.

How would you all relate money, and income with food and shelter security? More money, higher income, more raw food, better paleoman cave?

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General Discussion / Variety?
« on: June 17, 2017, 06:54:17 pm »
Hello everyone.

Does anyone have any recommendations for variety? The main foods I find available and of appropriate quality are grass fed beef, grass fed lamb, and pastured eggs. Not including seafood, what other foods do most of you eat?


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Science / IQ Experiemntation
« on: June 01, 2017, 06:56:51 pm »
Hello everyone. This will come off as very non RPD, however, entertain my thoughts for a moment.

I believe that it's possible to boost IQ through nutrient intake.

The supplements to take

Vitamin A (retinol supplement, from fish liver oil, like NOW Foods 10,000 IU Vitamin A)
Lugol's - 2.5-10mg (1-4 drops of 2%)
Vitamin D (sun or supplement) (ratio of retinol to D;1 - 8:1, about 30,000 IU of vitamin A max, starting from a smaller dose)
Salt (2 teaspoons per day)

Try it, see if you get smarter

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Off Topic / Unwanted adaptation to milk?
« on: March 20, 2017, 10:07:41 pm »
Could there possibly unwanted adaptation to milk drinking?

For example, are large breasts on women a result of drinking milk over thousands of years?

When comparing descendants of non milk drinkers to milk drinkers, the descendants of non milk drinkers generally have considerably smaller breasts (ie. Native American, Asian [not insulting anyone, I find Asian and Native American Women very attractive]).

What sayeth ye?

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General Discussion / The Nocebo Affect & Hypochondria
« on: January 07, 2017, 09:13:46 pm »
Nocebo: A negative placebo effect as, for example, when patients taking medications experience adverse side effects unrelated to the specific pharmacological action of the drug. The nocebo effect is associated with the person's prior expectations of adverse effects from treatment as well as with conditioning in which the person learns from prior experiences to associate a medication with certain somatic symptoms.

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=31482

Hypochondria: pertaining to or suffering from hypochondria, an excessive preoccupation with and worry about one's health

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/hypochondriac


Essentially, the nocebo effect is thinking something will cause harm, then experiencing that negative effect.

Examples could include thinking Tylenol will kill you, then experiencing terrible symptoms.  Another example could involve cooked food, salt, etc. of course - fearing it and expecting a certain result could cause thinking that results in negative symptoms. 

Interestingly, in the book "Mind Over Medicine" ( http://mindovermedicinebook.com/ ), she gives examples of people receiving sugar pills and experiencing symptoms of the medication they were told they'd receive.  For example a cancer patient receives a sugar pill and is told it could cause hair loss, naseua, etc. and they actually experience hair loss and other negative symptoms due to the nocebo effect.

Hypochondria and the nocebo effect kind of go hand in hand.  Someone continually worries everything's going to make them sick, then they experience the symptoms of how they think they'll be harmed.

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Off Topic / Optimizing IQ and EQ through nutrient intake
« on: December 24, 2016, 11:14:58 pm »
Hello everyone.  The purpose of this post is to discuss ways to increase IQ (intelligence quotient) and EQ (emotional quotient, the ability to cope with life and excel).

This link - https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country - shows the average IQ's of various nations.  There are some similarities between people with low IQ's, and those with higher IQ's.

You'll notice that many, in fact most of the nations with low IQ's are equatorial nations.  They live near the equator, and get LOTS of sun (likely very little Vitamin A too).  You'll also notice that toward the top of the list are Asian countries, and Northern countries (Europe, Canada, etc.).

I hypothesize that it is partially due to their A:D ratios.  That the lower someone's A:D ratio gets from 4:1 (ie. 3:1 - 1:2) the lower someone's IQ becomes.

Iceland ranks #6 on the list, and according to this website ( https://knoema.com/atlas/Iceland/topics/Food-Security/Diet-Composition-Micronutrients/Share-of-retinol ) and the conversion info from this website ( http://www.thecalculatorsite.com/articles/units/convert-ui-to-mcg.php ) they get on average from animal foods about 25,000 IU Vitamin A per day (likely as retinol due to it being of animal origin).

This study ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12509593 ) claimed to have found a link between omega 3's and IQ in children, however the researchers didn't consider that though both corn oil and cod liver oil both had the same amounts of Vitamin A, corn oil has beta carotene (which must be converted by the body, and is usually not efficient) and cod liver oil has formed Vitamin A (retinol).

According to this study ( https://thyroidresearchjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1756-6614-4-14 ) the Japanese ingests approximately 2-3 mg of iodine/iodide per day.  Other sources ( http://www.optimox.com/iodine-study-12 ) have found they might ingest significantly more, more than about 13 mg daily.

Iodine/iodide has been found to boost IQ ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15734706 ).

In Japan they  have also been found to have high salt intake ( http://www.businessinsider.com/people-in-japan-eat-more-salt-than-in-the-us-but-most-people-eat-too-much-in-both-countries-2015-7 ), which has also been found to have intelligence boosting effects.

Interestingly, the World Health Organization (WHO) discourages both formed and high amounts (relative to current recommendations) of Vitamin A intake and iodine intake (again, relative to current intakes) similar to theirs.  They also promote low salt intake.  Conspiracy?  Probably not, mistakes happen.  And with medical professionals having such big heads (you know, they're never wrong!), it's likely not conspiracy.  Heck any of you hear about Dr. Semmelweis?  The guy pioneered hand washing, got fired, and then 150 years later hand washing became mainstream (epic fail!).

Another very, very, very interesting thing about that WHO epic fail is that in the U.S. they practice the WHO's recommendations to the tee - average American gets less than 2 teaspoons of salt per day, ingests less than 200 mcg of iodine/iodide per day, and gets 5,000 IU A or less per day (I didn't mention Vitamin D intake, but they're low in that too).  Here's a list of health ranking by nation ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization_ranking_of_health_systems_in_2000 and http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/ ), you'll notice that the order is very similar to the IQ chart.

Essentially the healthiest countries are also the smartest, and they all contradict the WHO's recommendations (they don't circumcise, they get lots of Vitamin A, lots of iodine, lots of salt [not to say circumsision lowers IQ, just another WHO recommendation with no benefits]).  You'll also notice that The U.S. ranks 37th on one list and 31st on another list.

Smell fishy?


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And finally, the interesting part, how you can modify your ratios and amounts.

The goal is to have a Vitamin A:Vitamin D ratio of 4:1-8:1 including all sources (foods, supplements, FCLO, sun, etc.).

You can use Dr. Holick's book "The Vitamin D Solution" which has recommendations for getting sun in different parts of the world based on skin color and location to calculate the amount of Vitamin D you get from sun, or the phone app "D Minder."  Remember sun Vitamin D counts as 2x more Vitamin D than supplements or food.

Then calculate how much Vitamin A you need to get from diet to have a 4:1-8:1 ratio, then eat that much liver and/or take that much FCLO.

You can use supplements, however it's not necessary.  You can eat Vitamin D rich foods, get sun, and eat Vitamin A rich foods - and simply calculate your ratio and eat the appropriate amounts.

Iodine/iodide can be gotten from seaweed (kelp has the highest amounts, other seaweeds have generous amounts too, but kelp has the most). 

Salt, while I know it's frowned upon overall (most RPDF members abstaining), unrefined salt for those interested is a good source.



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Salt: not linked to heart disease?

Weston Price article debunking the benefits of reduced salt intake - http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/salt-and-our-health/


Iodine, toxic in high amounts, or lots of benefits?

Dr. Brownstein on iodine - http://www.drbrownstein.com/Iodine-Why-You-Need-It-p/iodine.htm


Vitamin A, super nutrient?

Article from Weston Price - http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/vitamin-a-saga/

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General Discussion / Starting a fake religion to protect raw dieters
« on: December 19, 2016, 12:42:24 am »
Who thinks it would be a good idea to create a religion (not necessarily a real one, more a legal loop hole) for people who want to feed their kids raw diets?

Child Protective Services (CPS) could be quite... you already know.  A religion could create a legal loop hole.  After all lots of respected religions have "questionably safe" religious practices, and comparisons between could be used as very reasonable defenses in legal proceedings (hypothetically).

What do you think?

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Off Topic / Unscented Everything?
« on: September 10, 2016, 08:11:45 pm »
I had a teacher say that the best soap is unscented and has nothing in it.

I decided to go a step further, and do unscented laundry detergent, shampoo, conditioner, deodorant, gel (if I wear some), and bar soap. The same items tend to be gluten free, and allergen free.

I noticed my nasal passages are less clogged. I still spray some cologne on my clothes.

What do yall think?

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Science / The Science of Resistance
« on: September 08, 2016, 10:13:34 am »
Hey everyone. I'm posting here on how and why people are unaffected by potentially pathological microorganisms on raw diets.

As we all know, the more cooked a food is the more heat created intoxicants there are.

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Christine_Swanson2/publication/13633824_Heterocyclic_amine_content_in_beef_cooked_by_different_methods_to_varying_degrees_of_doneness_and_gravy_made_from_beef_drippings_Food_Chem_Toxicol/links/0912f50b4d611b25eb000000.pdf

For example, the above link shows that well cooked meats contain about 30x more heat created intoxicants than rare meats (raw meats not mentioned). There's a nice chart there if you want to take a look.

Here is a study showing that there's a relationship between pollution and infection. The more pollution, the more risk of infection, the less pollution, the less risk of pollution.

"Experimental studies indicate that the numbers of ectoparasites such as trichodinid ciliates and monogeneans increase significantly on the gills following exposure to a pollutant, and this is supported by field data on other ciliates and monogeneans where evidence of pollution has been clearly demonstrated. There is also evidence that endoparasitic protozoons, such as myxozoons, microsporans and haematozoons, all of which are capable of proliferating in their hosts, increase substantially in prevalence and intensity when interacting with pollutants."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2069073

Heat created intoxicants can be considered pollution. Less means better immune function and more resistance to infection.

Also, since RAF dieters eat animals that are raised to eat good diets, those animals also harbor less microorganisms. Resulting in not just making contact with less, but having stronger resistance too.

"Pollutants might promote increased parasitism by impairing the host's immune response or favoring survival and reproduction of intermediate hosts."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1805675

I just thought I'd share since this could put some people's minds at ease if they're worried about the safety of raw diets.


ps. This isn't meant to scare anyone from eating cooked food here and again. I still occasionally eat cooked food. Sometimes much more during special occasions :)

pps. I have a theory that low exposure to microorganisms, as would occur on a raw diet, slowly builds resistant to 'potentially infectious' microorganisms. Ie. due to not getting an actual infection, the body develops resistance. Potentially reducing the risk of infection if a person were to make the same contact with microorganisms on a well done cooked diet.

ppps. Like Guy Claude Burger thought, that microorganisms aren't supposed to be pathogenic. I also hypothesize that microorganisms of any kind are actually opportunistic, and whether they are or aren't pathogenic is dependent on the host's physical state. Meaning microorganisms actually are only capable of causing "potentially opportunistic infections" which is totally dependent on the host. Just like say someone eating very well cooked meats might develop an infection, but someone eating very rare meats doesn't.


So eat your food and enjoy! Cheers!

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Hot Topics / Is eating a raw diet ethical? (oppinions please)
« on: August 26, 2016, 06:03:13 am »
What do you think? Arguments for, against?

Against cooked food?

For raw food?

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Science / Reducing biological heat created toxin levels
« on: July 04, 2016, 11:20:24 pm »
In addition to ingesting less heat created toxins (raw diet), what recommendations do members have for 1) decreasing production? and 2) increasing detoxification?

I don't have any 'articles/studies,' but it's my understanding stress increases endogenous heat created toxin production and exercise increases detoxification. Reducing stress decreases production, and exercise increases detoxification.

Does anyone else have any recommendations?

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Science / IQ by Nation
« on: July 03, 2016, 10:28:33 pm »
It's interesting looking at the IQ's of different Nations, and looking at their nutrient intake.
- https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country

Asian countries have the highest IQ. Interestingly, they also have very high iodine intake and ingest significant amounts of salt (all is relative of course, they ingest normal amounts of salt in context of average nation intake).

After Asian countries, European countries rank second. Interestingly, they have significant formed Vitamin A intake (of course, also relative).

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Off Topic / If you cheat, how often?
« on: July 03, 2016, 08:55:48 pm »
I mainly eat a raw diet. But I occasionally like to eat out for social occasions.

Do you cheat sometimes? If so how often do you cheat?

I personally eat out maybe once a week to once a month.

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Raw Weston Price / Vitamin A
« on: June 13, 2016, 02:56:21 am »
Pretty neat. An entire book on retinol/Vitamin A.

"
The Retinoids: Biology, Biochemistry, and Disease 1st Edition
by Pascal Dollé (Author), Karen Niederreither (Author)
"

Also available on Google Books.

I recently started experimenting with Vitamin A in 'larger than normal' amounts.

I noticed in Europe they tend to ingest quite a bit of Vitamin A, while simultaneously having somewhere lower Vitamin D levels, improving their Vitamin A:D ratio. They also tend to be healthier than much of the rest of the world, so I thought I'd experiment with more Vitamin A.

Of course still pastured foods, but I added liver.

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I've included here a few studies showing how eating a raw diet, without incidence from parasitic disease is possible. The studies show 1. that wild animals are generally unaffected by parasites, 2. that wild animals have increased parasitism with increased pollution, 3. that wild animals moved into captivity and fed a standard feed (cooked foods, etc.) develop increased parasitism, and 4. a link to an international study done on heat created byproducts (approximately 50 byproducts listed), and 5. studies on bacteria, mad cow, etc.

Essentially, pollution and heat created byproducts (possibly other factors too) decrease animal resistance to microbes (including parasites), by reducing glutathione levels (and likely other antimicrobial factors as well). Which is why raw dieters are generally unaffected. Basically pollution=heat created byproducts, increased pollution increased parasitism.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2069073

"There is also evidence that endoparasitic protozoons, such as myxozoons, microsporans and haematozoons, all of which are capable of proliferating in their hosts, increase substantially in prevalence and intensity when interacting with pollutants."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1805675

"Pollutants might promote increased parasitism by impairing the host's immune response or favouring survival and reproduction of intermediate hosts."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10456421

"Parasites, causing little apparent damage in feral (wild) fish populations, may become causative agents of diseases of great importance in farmed fish, leading to pathological changes, decrease of fitness or reduction of the market value of fish."

http://www.fhi.no/eway/default.aspx?pid=240&trg=Content_6870&Main_6664=6898:0:25,8254:1:0:0:::0:0&MainContent_6898=6870:0:25,8279:1:0:0:::0:0&List_6871=6874:0:25,8279:1:0:0:::0:0&Content_6870=6866:97806::1:6875:11:::0:0

"Modern science has showed that heating of meat and other protein rich foods can generate various kinds of potentially hazardous compounds, some of which are genotoxic and carcinogenic. The focus of the HEATOX project was to estimate health risks recently discovered associated with hazardous compounds in heat treated carbohydrate-rich foods where substantial amounts of acrylamide and similar compounds can be formed."

http://www.eatwild.com/foodsafety.html

"Grass-fed cows are not mad cows

Eating grass-fed beef may lower your risk of E. coli infection"

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Science / Your Education Level (Regarding Science)
« on: September 11, 2014, 09:45:53 pm »
Hi everyone. Purely out of curiosity I'm wondering how many science classes each of you have taken - chemistry, biology, etc. Please be as detailed as possible, describe what classes you've taken, etc. Thank you!

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Science / Organic and Inorganic - How They Relate to Chemistry and Food
« on: August 23, 2014, 10:18:26 pm »
Hi everyone. This is a post explaining the difference between the terms organic and inorganic when it comes to food production, and chemistry. The term organic is used very loosely to describe a variety of things in an inaccurate way. For example, it's common in raw food circles to say that cooking makes something inorganic, or that something is bad because it doesn't come in an organic form. These are inappropriate ways of using the terms organic and inorganic, and I'll clarify in this post.

Organic in grocery terms simply means without the use of pesticides, GMO's, or with pesticides that are allowed in organic food. When it's not organic it can contain pesticides and GMO's.

Organic in chemistry simply means that it contains carbon. Inorganic means it doesn't contain carbon. The body makes and uses both organic and inorganic compounds. For example the body uses protein, fat, and carbohydrates which are organic compounds. It also uses chloride to make hydrochloric acid, both of which are inorganic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_chemistry - "The range of chemicals studied in organic chemistry include hydrocarbons, compounds containing only carbon and hydrogen, as well as myriad compositions based always on carbon, but also containing other elements,"

The way organic is used to describe how cooking denatures nutrients and makes things inorganic is a completely inaccurate use of the term organic and inorganic/non-organic.

For example, cooking produces heterocyclic amines. Some would consider it to therefore be "inorganic," however by the actual definition of organic heterocyclic amines are often times organic compounds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterocyclic_compound - "Although heterocyclic compounds may be inorganic, most contain at least one carbon."

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-heterocyclic-amines.htm - "A cyclic chemical compound is composed of elemental atoms bonded together in the form of a ring. Most cyclic compounds are organic, containing carbon."

This is just an FYI for those who throw around the term organic and inorganic so loosely as if to describe some magical quality. The body needs, uses, and produces both organic and inorganic compounds.

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Science / To fish or not to fish
« on: July 22, 2014, 01:33:34 am »
This kind of gets into conspiracy theories. But what do you guys think of this.

It seems like there's a lot of recommendations to increase certain foods and do certain things.

1) eat fish for omega 3's
- No amount of fish is ever going to balance the amount of omega 6 in the SAD. All I can see eating 3 servings of fish weekly is increasing mercury intake dramatically. And please don't say anything about it being in its' organic form unless you're ready to cite sources. Organic in chemistry (the way people describe mercury from the ocean) means nothing more than containing carbon and hydrogen, and organic in food (ie no pesticides) are completely different things. Point is eating maybe 6 grams of omega 3 from fish each week isn't going to make up for the other 455 grams of SAD fats (based on RDA of fat for a week).

Makes more sense to me to eat pastured animal fats, activate enzymes needed to make conversions of omega 3 ALA to DHA and EPA.

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Science / Neurogenesis
« on: July 21, 2014, 03:18:51 am »
"What the researchers discovered was that within each of our brains there exists a population of neural stem cells which are continually replenished and can differentiate into brain neurons.

Fortunately, many of the factors that influence our DNA to produce BDNF factors are under our direct control."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-david-perlmutter-md/neurogenesis-what-it-mean_b_777163.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurogenesis#Adult_neural_stem_cells

www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/35902/title/Human-Adult-Neurogenesis-Revealed/

The brain has the ability to regenerate itself, like any other part of the body. Likely includes many parts of the brain and isn't limited to just the brain - also spinal cord and peripheral nervous system.

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Science / The Enteric Nervous System (ENS)
« on: April 27, 2014, 04:13:52 am »
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/gut-second-brain/

"Technically known as the enteric nervous system, the second brain consists of sheaths of neurons embedded in the walls of the long tube of our gut, or alimentary canal, which measures about nine meters end to end from the esophagus to the anus. The second brain contains some 100 million neurons, more than in either the spinal cord or the peripheral nervous system, Gershon says."

""The system is way too complicated to have evolved only to make sure things move out of your colon," says Emeran Mayer, professor of physiology, psychiatry and biobehavioral sciences at the David Geffen School of Medicine at the University of California, Los Angeles (U.C.L.A.). For example, scientists were shocked to learn that about 90 percent of the fibers in the primary visceral nerve, the vagus, carry information from the gut to the brain and not the other way around. "Some of that info is decidedly unpleasant," Gershon says."

"U.C.L.A.'s Mayer is doing work on how the trillions of bacteria in the gut "communicate" with enteric nervous system cells (which they greatly outnumber). His work with the gut's nervous system has led him to think that in coming years psychiatry will need to expand to treat the second brain in addition to the one atop the shoulders."

This is really cool. The digestive tract literally functions without instructions from the brain/central nervous system. It even uses all the same neurotransmitters found in the brain.

It has a mind of its own, you could say.. Lol

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Off Topic / Ways of Boosting Your Health (non-nutritional)
« on: April 18, 2014, 03:32:22 am »
I'm not recommending giving up eating a healthy diet. What I'm mentioning here is that eating a healthy diet, and ignoring all other principles of being healthy isn't optimal and/or potentially doesn't work. There are tons of things that promote health that eating a raw diet simply doesn't do - exercise strengthening bones and reducing risk of osteopenia later in life, social bonds reducing depression, etc.

Eating a healthy diet doesn't mean that you don't need to exercise, have good social bonds, get enough rest, etc. I mention these things because they're things I feel are grossly overlooked on this forum. 99% of the discussion here is on diet.

"Scientific Studies Show Benefits of Happiness"
http://www.americanhappiness.org/articles-benefits.html

"Give Your Body a Boost -- With Laughter"
http://www.webmd.com/balance/features/give-your-body-boost-with-laughter

"11 Surprising Health Benefits of Sleep"
http://www.health.com/health/gallery/0,,20459221,00.html

"Exercise: 7 benefits of regular physical activity"
http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-living/fitness/in-depth/exercise/art-20048389

"Relaxation Techniques for Health: An Introduction"
http://nccam.nih.gov/health/stress/relaxation.htm

"The Benefits of Exercising Outdoors"
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/21/the-benefits-of-exercising-outdoors/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

"Health Benefits (of being outdoors)"
http://www.nwf.org/be-out-there/why-be-out-there/health-benefits.aspx

Just some things to think about if you're one of those people who does nothing but make tweeks to your diet and you're still feeling depressed, having digestive problems, etc. Or if you just want to try new things to make yourself happier.

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Off Topic / Japanese Guts Are Made for Sushi
« on: April 17, 2014, 01:03:35 am »
http://news.sciencemag.org/biology/2010/04/japanese-guts-are-made-sushi

"Americans don't have the guts for sushi. At least that's the implication of a new study, which finds that Japanese people harbor enzymes in their intestinal bacteria that help them digest seaweed--enzymes that North Americans lack. What's more, Japanese may have first acquired these enzymes by eating bacteria that thrive on seaweed in the open ocean. "

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Hot Topics / Debunking the paleo diet: Christina Warinner at TEDx
« on: April 02, 2014, 10:28:28 am »
Debunking the paleo diet: Christina Warinner at TEDxOU


To summarize - paleolithic people may have ate a lot of plant foods from various neolithic type foods (beans, grains) and a lot less animal foods. A lot of today's commercially available foods (bananas, avocados, blueberries, etc.) are nothing like their wild, non hybridized counterparts. Certain parts of paleo diet are good practices - whole foods, unprocessed foods, etc.

What I found most interesting was how so many of today's commercially available foods are nothing like the wild version.

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