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Off Topic / Finance and security
« on: Yesterday at 06:48:47 am »
We all know non-human species have an abudant amount of locations to sleep, carry on, and live their lives. Likewise there's no shortage of food for them to get.

How would you all relate money, and income with food and shelter security? More money, higher income, more raw food, better paleoman cave?

General Discussion / Variety?
« on: June 17, 2017, 06:54:17 pm »
Hello everyone.

Does anyone have any recommendations for variety? The main foods I find available and of appropriate quality are grass fed beef, grass fed lamb, and pastured eggs. Not including seafood, what other foods do most of you eat?

Off Topic / Unwanted adaptation to milk?
« on: March 20, 2017, 10:07:41 pm »
Could there possibly unwanted adaptation to milk drinking?

For example, are large breasts on women a result of drinking milk over thousands of years?

When comparing descendants of non milk drinkers to milk drinkers, the descendants of non milk drinkers generally have considerably smaller breasts (ie. Native American, Asian [not insulting anyone, I find Asian and Native American Women very attractive]).

What sayeth ye?

General Discussion / The Nocebo Affect & Hypochondria
« on: January 07, 2017, 09:13:46 pm »
Nocebo: A negative placebo effect as, for example, when patients taking medications experience adverse side effects unrelated to the specific pharmacological action of the drug. The nocebo effect is associated with the person's prior expectations of adverse effects from treatment as well as with conditioning in which the person learns from prior experiences to associate a medication with certain somatic symptoms.

Hypochondria: pertaining to or suffering from hypochondria, an excessive preoccupation with and worry about one's health

Essentially, the nocebo effect is thinking something will cause harm, then experiencing that negative effect.

Examples could include thinking Tylenol will kill you, then experiencing terrible symptoms.  Another example could involve cooked food, salt, etc. of course - fearing it and expecting a certain result could cause thinking that results in negative symptoms. 

Interestingly, in the book "Mind Over Medicine" ( ), she gives examples of people receiving sugar pills and experiencing symptoms of the medication they were told they'd receive.  For example a cancer patient receives a sugar pill and is told it could cause hair loss, naseua, etc. and they actually experience hair loss and other negative symptoms due to the nocebo effect.

Hypochondria and the nocebo effect kind of go hand in hand.  Someone continually worries everything's going to make them sick, then they experience the symptoms of how they think they'll be harmed.

Off Topic / Optimizing IQ and EQ through nutrient intake
« on: December 24, 2016, 11:14:58 pm »
Hello everyone.  The purpose of this post is to discuss ways to increase IQ (intelligence quotient) and EQ (emotional quotient, the ability to cope with life and excel).

This link - - shows the average IQ's of various nations.  There are some similarities between people with low IQ's, and those with higher IQ's.

You'll notice that many, in fact most of the nations with low IQ's are equatorial nations.  They live near the equator, and get LOTS of sun (likely very little Vitamin A too).  You'll also notice that toward the top of the list are Asian countries, and Northern countries (Europe, Canada, etc.).

I hypothesize that it is partially due to their A:D ratios.  That the lower someone's A:D ratio gets from 4:1 (ie. 3:1 - 1:2) the lower someone's IQ becomes.

Iceland ranks #6 on the list, and according to this website ( ) and the conversion info from this website ( ) they get on average from animal foods about 25,000 IU Vitamin A per day (likely as retinol due to it being of animal origin).

This study ( ) claimed to have found a link between omega 3's and IQ in children, however the researchers didn't consider that though both corn oil and cod liver oil both had the same amounts of Vitamin A, corn oil has beta carotene (which must be converted by the body, and is usually not efficient) and cod liver oil has formed Vitamin A (retinol).

According to this study ( ) the Japanese ingests approximately 2-3 mg of iodine/iodide per day.  Other sources ( ) have found they might ingest significantly more, more than about 13 mg daily.

Iodine/iodide has been found to boost IQ ( ).

In Japan they  have also been found to have high salt intake ( ), which has also been found to have intelligence boosting effects.

Interestingly, the World Health Organization (WHO) discourages both formed and high amounts (relative to current recommendations) of Vitamin A intake and iodine intake (again, relative to current intakes) similar to theirs.  They also promote low salt intake.  Conspiracy?  Probably not, mistakes happen.  And with medical professionals having such big heads (you know, they're never wrong!), it's likely not conspiracy.  Heck any of you hear about Dr. Semmelweis?  The guy pioneered hand washing, got fired, and then 150 years later hand washing became mainstream (epic fail!).

Another very, very, very interesting thing about that WHO epic fail is that in the U.S. they practice the WHO's recommendations to the tee - average American gets less than 2 teaspoons of salt per day, ingests less than 200 mcg of iodine/iodide per day, and gets 5,000 IU A or less per day (I didn't mention Vitamin D intake, but they're low in that too).  Here's a list of health ranking by nation ( and ), you'll notice that the order is very similar to the IQ chart.

Essentially the healthiest countries are also the smartest, and they all contradict the WHO's recommendations (they don't circumcise, they get lots of Vitamin A, lots of iodine, lots of salt [not to say circumsision lowers IQ, just another WHO recommendation with no benefits]).  You'll also notice that The U.S. ranks 37th on one list and 31st on another list.

Smell fishy?


And finally, the interesting part, how you can modify your ratios and amounts.

The goal is to have a Vitamin A:Vitamin D ratio of 4:1-8:1 including all sources (foods, supplements, FCLO, sun, etc.).

You can use Dr. Holick's book "The Vitamin D Solution" which has recommendations for getting sun in different parts of the world based on skin color and location to calculate the amount of Vitamin D you get from sun, or the phone app "D Minder."  Remember sun Vitamin D counts as 2x more Vitamin D than supplements or food.

Then calculate how much Vitamin A you need to get from diet to have a 4:1-8:1 ratio, then eat that much liver and/or take that much FCLO.

You can use supplements, however it's not necessary.  You can eat Vitamin D rich foods, get sun, and eat Vitamin A rich foods - and simply calculate your ratio and eat the appropriate amounts.

Iodine/iodide can be gotten from seaweed (kelp has the highest amounts, other seaweeds have generous amounts too, but kelp has the most). 

Salt, while I know it's frowned upon overall (most RPDF members abstaining), unrefined salt for those interested is a good source.


Salt: not linked to heart disease?

Weston Price article debunking the benefits of reduced salt intake -

Iodine, toxic in high amounts, or lots of benefits?

Dr. Brownstein on iodine -

Vitamin A, super nutrient?

Article from Weston Price -

General Discussion / Starting a fake religion to protect raw dieters
« on: December 19, 2016, 12:42:24 am »
Who thinks it would be a good idea to create a religion (not necessarily a real one, more a legal loop hole) for people who want to feed their kids raw diets?

Child Protective Services (CPS) could be quite... you already know.  A religion could create a legal loop hole.  After all lots of respected religions have "questionably safe" religious practices, and comparisons between could be used as very reasonable defenses in legal proceedings (hypothetically).

What do you think?

Off Topic / Unscented Everything?
« on: September 10, 2016, 08:11:45 pm »
I had a teacher say that the best soap is unscented and has nothing in it.

I decided to go a step further, and do unscented laundry detergent, shampoo, conditioner, deodorant, gel (if I wear some), and bar soap. The same items tend to be gluten free, and allergen free.

I noticed my nasal passages are less clogged. I still spray some cologne on my clothes.

What do yall think?

Hot Topics / Is eating a raw diet ethical? (oppinions please)
« on: August 26, 2016, 06:03:13 am »
What do you think? Arguments for, against?

Against cooked food?

For raw food?

Off Topic / If you cheat, how often?
« on: July 03, 2016, 08:55:48 pm »
I mainly eat a raw diet. But I occasionally like to eat out for social occasions.

Do you cheat sometimes? If so how often do you cheat?

I personally eat out maybe once a week to once a month.

Raw Weston Price / Vitamin A
« on: June 13, 2016, 02:56:21 am »
Pretty neat. An entire book on retinol/Vitamin A.

The Retinoids: Biology, Biochemistry, and Disease 1st Edition
by Pascal Dollé (Author), Karen Niederreither (Author)

Also available on Google Books.

I recently started experimenting with Vitamin A in 'larger than normal' amounts.

I noticed in Europe they tend to ingest quite a bit of Vitamin A, while simultaneously having somewhere lower Vitamin D levels, improving their Vitamin A:D ratio. They also tend to be healthier than much of the rest of the world, so I thought I'd experiment with more Vitamin A.

Of course still pastured foods, but I added liver.

Off Topic / Ways of Boosting Your Health (non-nutritional)
« on: April 18, 2014, 03:32:22 am »
I'm not recommending giving up eating a healthy diet. What I'm mentioning here is that eating a healthy diet, and ignoring all other principles of being healthy isn't optimal and/or potentially doesn't work. There are tons of things that promote health that eating a raw diet simply doesn't do - exercise strengthening bones and reducing risk of osteopenia later in life, social bonds reducing depression, etc.

Eating a healthy diet doesn't mean that you don't need to exercise, have good social bonds, get enough rest, etc. I mention these things because they're things I feel are grossly overlooked on this forum. 99% of the discussion here is on diet.

"Scientific Studies Show Benefits of Happiness"

"Give Your Body a Boost -- With Laughter"

"11 Surprising Health Benefits of Sleep",,20459221,00.html

"Exercise: 7 benefits of regular physical activity"

"Relaxation Techniques for Health: An Introduction"

"The Benefits of Exercising Outdoors"

"Health Benefits (of being outdoors)"

Just some things to think about if you're one of those people who does nothing but make tweeks to your diet and you're still feeling depressed, having digestive problems, etc. Or if you just want to try new things to make yourself happier.

Off Topic / Japanese Guts Are Made for Sushi
« on: April 17, 2014, 01:03:35 am »

"Americans don't have the guts for sushi. At least that's the implication of a new study, which finds that Japanese people harbor enzymes in their intestinal bacteria that help them digest seaweed--enzymes that North Americans lack. What's more, Japanese may have first acquired these enzymes by eating bacteria that thrive on seaweed in the open ocean. "

Hot Topics / Debunking the paleo diet: Christina Warinner at TEDx
« on: April 02, 2014, 10:28:28 am »
Debunking the paleo diet: Christina Warinner at TEDxOU

To summarize - paleolithic people may have ate a lot of plant foods from various neolithic type foods (beans, grains) and a lot less animal foods. A lot of today's commercially available foods (bananas, avocados, blueberries, etc.) are nothing like their wild, non hybridized counterparts. Certain parts of paleo diet are good practices - whole foods, unprocessed foods, etc.

What I found most interesting was how so many of today's commercially available foods are nothing like the wild version.

Off Topic / Scientific Information About Supplements
« on: March 13, 2014, 01:50:27 am »
Hello everyone. I'm posting this so there can be an open discussion on supplements - the only rule is that any information presented has to be backed by scientific evidence (studies, etc.). You can post any studies you like, however I will check them and see if the studies were flawed (used the wrong forms of certain vitamins, to low doses, made false conclusions, etc.). A lot of the talk on this forum about supplements being bad is speculation, and often times based on people's "views" of what natural is. Yet all the studies that have been posted have been the equivalent of a study done on RPD's health effects, but using feed lot meats, eggs, etc. and finding everyone's health declined.

So feel free to post any studies you can find, as I legitimately am looking for actual evidence that supplements are bad and/or good.

Raw Weston Price / Unrefined Salt Experiments
« on: February 15, 2014, 08:51:35 pm »

Salt Your Way to Health 7 15 10

I personally am experimenting with the unrefined salt, Redmond's Real Salt. I haven't been getting the RDA, so I'm making sure I ingest 1.5-3 tsp to get at least the RDA.

Dr. Brownstein and the Weston Price Foundation both have very good information on the benefits of unrefined, mineral rich salt.

I'll be posting my results mostly in my journal, but a little here. Feel free to post your experiments if you choose to try ensuring you get at least the RDA of sodium. Remember to use an unrefined salt.

General Discussion / New Diseases, Old Diseases, and The Spike in Illness
« on: February 09, 2014, 08:38:05 am »
Stay thirsty friends, enjoy your diets and lifestyles. lol

"    New diseases and renewed threats

During the past 20 years, at least 30 new diseases have emerged, for many of which there is no treatment, cure or vaccine, or the possibility of effective prevention or control. In addition, the uncontrolled and inappropriate use of antibiotics has resulted in increased antimicrobial resistance and is seriously threatening drug control strategies against such common diseases as tuberculosis, malaria, cholera, dysentery and pneumonia. "

That's just in 20 years!

"In 2000 and 2002, the autism estimate was about 1 in 150 children. Two years later 1 in 125 8-year-olds had autism. In 2006, the number was 1 in 110, and the newest data -- from 2008 -- suggests 1 in 88 children have autism."

"1910  Lifetime risk of type II diabetes:  1 in 30. The lifetime risk today is 1 in 3 according to the Center for Disease Control (CDC) in Atlanta."

"1910  Butter consumption = 18 pounds per capita. In the year 2000 butter consumption went below 4 pounds. When we were using high quality butter lavishly, mortality from heart disease was below 10 percent. (Infections killed a majority of people; a high percentage of infants and women of child-bearing age died during the birthing process.) Today as we consume our “Country Croak,” the mortality from heart disease is 40 to 45 percent. Both Dr. Andrew Weil and the late Dr. Robert C. Atkins agree:  "Eat butter; not margarine, regardless of the claims the manufacturer is making for it!"

"1910  Lard, the rendered fat from pigs raised outdoors, was the #1 cooking fat - enjoying 70 percent of the market. Lard was the best source of Vitamin D and a good source of palmitoleic acid, a monounsaturated anti-microbial fatty acid that kills bacteria and viruses. Today highly processed soybean oil has 70 percent of the market; zero vitamin D. Now the same experts who told us not to eat lard are telling us we are deficient in Vitamin D!  "

"1948  Vegetable fat consumption:  28 pounds per capita. By 1976:  55 pounds. As obesity and diabetes became public health problems, our consumption of highly processed vegetable fat, including tran fatty acids, climbed sreadily and our consumption of fat from animals declined."

"1949  Pasteurized milk is mandatory. During World War II, tainted milk produced by inexperienced replacement creamery workers killed a number of people. The government blamed raw milk; not the replacement workers (and not the dislocations of war). Pasteurization kills the enzymes that make it easier to absorb the proteins in milk and destroys many other key nutrients, including Vitamin B-12."

"1955  President Eisenhower suffers a first heart attack at age 64. He was put on a highly publicized low fat, low cholesterol diet. Over the next six weeks, twice daily press conferences were held on the president's condition. His total cholesterol at the time of the attack was 165 ml/dl. Eisenhower was ordered to eat dry toast and Sanka for breakfast and eat only 1 egg per week. His cholesterol continued to climb on a low fat, low cholesterol diet until it reached 259 the day he left office. Eisenhower had several more heart attacks and eventually died of heart disease."

"1976  Senator George McGovern's bipartisan, extra legislative Committee on Nutrition and Human Needs conducts 2 days of contentious hearings on “Diet and Killer Diseases.” Staffers are lawyers and ex-journalists without scientific training. In Good Calories, Bad Calories, Gary Taubes reports that McGovern and his staff went into the hearings strongly biased in favor of Keys' anti-fat hypothesis. 

1977  After conducting six additional hearings, McGovern's Senate Select Committee issues the final version of the Dietary Guidelines for Americans. For the first time, an agency of the U.S. federal government is telling the American people to eat less fat. Nick Mottern, a vegetarian, whose heroes included Ancel Keys and Jeremiah Stamler, was given the task of writing the first ever Dietary Goals for the United States."

" 1990  According to the CDC in Atlanta, type II diabetes took off like a "runaway train" around 1990. In the year 2000, the CDC reported that the lifetime risk of diabetes is now 1 in 3. Because 80 percent of diabetics die of heart disease, the “disease management system” in the U.S. will have to brace for a huge surge in heart disease and heart failure, already the number one Medicare expenditure.
harvard1999  At the 14 year point in the Harvard Nurses Study, 3,000 nurses had developed cancer. According to study leader Walter Willett, the less fat the nurses ate the greater their risk of cancer. Willet said, “Saturated fat seems to be protective…” Even though dietary fat was exonerated, the American Cancer Society continues to blame red meat and fat on cancer – not sugar or excess carbohydrates.
2000  Soybean oil has 70 percent of the edible fat market in the U.S. Nutritious lard consumption:  Less than 1 pound per capita.
2000  Sugar consumption in the U.S.:  150 pounds per capita.
2000 Butter consumption in the U.S.:  less than 4 pounds per capita."

Suggestion Box / Drafts
« on: January 02, 2014, 10:47:18 am »
Hello. I'm thinking to improve the forum we could make it so we can save drafts. For example, on my email account if I'm typing something and I don't want to send it because I'm still working on it, it'll save as a draft. I'm thinking this would come in handy on the forum. It would be helpful when someone's working on a post and they're not ready to post it but don't want to lose their information.

General Discussion / Everyone is Toxic
« on: December 08, 2013, 04:46:43 am »
Here's a 25 minute presentation on detoxification, toxins and the environment.


A study showing healthy individuals, illness free, are loaded with toxins. Average person had 91+ toxins in their systems stored in their fat. So it's true the body uses fat to store toxins. - shows all the pollutants being released within your county (US). Very interesting site, I just pulled up my area's information.


List of fish with the highest and lowest mercury content.


Comparison between farmed and wild fish. Farmed is much higher in toxins.


Describes the difference between taking "detoxifying" nutrients, ie. doing a cleanse, and consuming nutrients that increase the body's detoxification capabilities.

Not a fan of the products they're selling. Good info overall though.

Health / Fluoridation
« on: November 29, 2013, 09:00:54 pm »
I was unaware there was so much info on fluoride being so toxic. When I originally eliminated it from my drinking water I did it just because I thought it was "a bad chemical." However this website shows there's a lot more to it than it just being "bad." The science actually shows it's neuro-toxic and has many other negative effects.

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