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Journals / Re: a strong mother...
« on: May 07, 2013, 05:00:05 pm »
Yes that is a good thought. I have been reading about minerals specifically. Some believe that we always lack minerals, even on the best diet, because the ground does not contain enough minerals anymore and therefore even natural foods (and animals) may lack nutrients. I wonder how much truth is in that statement?


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Journals / Re: a strong mother...
« on: May 07, 2013, 07:02:37 am »
Updates for April to May 2013
I have experimented some and learned lots.
Although my major problems are better or even gone, I still have some work to do. Some of these things can not be bettered by diet alone, or at least not fast enough.
I want to be in excellent shape next pregnancy. I don't want to be a high risk pregnancy again. I want to be guided by a natural midwife, instead of an OB Gyn, so I can attempt a natural birth after C-Section.
I am also planning on nursing through pregnancy and after tandem nursing both children. So I need to be the strongest possible. Pregnancy is very tiring especially in the first trimester.
I need to fix my hormonal problems, to assure problem free conception and not adding to hormonal imbalances next pregnancy. I feel the strong surge of hormones from pregnancy has really messed with my hormones, and since my body was always prone to hormone related problems (but mostly spared) it is having a hard time bouncing back. Not to mention I used to take birth control pills for 7 years until 2009.
When I took the herbal supplements they had improved my PMS drastically, reduced the hair loss I was going through then, and also bettered my skin (acne).
I stopped after 2 1/2 months. I had just experienced my first completely normal, pain free period since it returned at 12 months postpartum. But, my problems returned. My skin was the first thing to go bad again, and my following period wasn't as great either. It was on time and not longer than normal, but heavier and I experienced bad PMS again.
I don't think I was taking the supplements long enough, and I was taking a bit less than the recommended dose too. That is why I will go back on the supplements. It is only logical right now...I can't be going through excruiating pain during ovulation and around my period, that could equal up to two weeks of problems and at least 4 days of being completely miserable.

As far as my skin and indigestion goes:
I tested a few things to make sure it really IS hormones causing me troubles. For one, I ate a Wai diet for two weeks to see how I would feel on it and how my skin would respond. I even stopped using moisturizer and wearing mineral foundation or powder (to cover pimples and reduce shine).
It did not do anything for my acne. At first I thought I was clearing up, but it turned out to be just normal fluctuation. I have some good days and then hormones cause me to break out, my skin will then heal just to break out again. With time it is really causing damage to my skin...the red marks won't fade easily, even when I am not broken out I have visible red marks for a long time. I don't have a lot of room for experiments or time to wait, because I might end up needing a face transplant :P.
The Wai diet diet improve the texture of my skin a bit though. Similar to the bettering I had experienced going cooked Paleo. Before Paleo, even when having clear skin, I would often get small bumps, that weren't pimples, just bumps all over...my skins texture just did not seem as even (children always have an even texture).
Well, it got more even on Paleo, which i think also has to do with the avoidance of dairy much, and even more even and fine pored on the Wai diet. So basically I have amazing skin...with Acne! Makes no sense, but thats the truth. If I did not have pimples, I would have beautiful skin....so weird.
One problem with the Wai diet was energy. I was constantly eating fruits and would get hungry every half hour. I find that very inconvenient. I would also be a bit jittery, rather than energized. I had trouble sleeping....like I would be too jittery to calm down enough to sleep well. I lost weight fast, despite eating 3000 cals, which is not good for me.
When I hit 46kg, I stopped, added a few veggies to my diet, and I gained weight back fast *shrug*....
BUT, I still eat raw meats and fish, raw egg yolks, and only use (sesame) oil to moisturize. I only cover single pimples if they really stand out, but I mostly only get small red bumps under my skin that won't come to the surface.
My skin is not oily anymore! Since I was 17 I have been fighting oily skin and now it is just gone...my skin is still dry though. Has been since pregnancy.
My bloating improved a bit on the Wai diet, but Ithink it is also because food would just pass right through. My stools were too soft and sometimes I had diarrhea.
Any food gets me bloated. I tried a fruit day, orange juice day, meat and fish day. I am not bloated in the morning, but every hour my bloating gets a bit worse. I think even if I just drak water all day....:(
I do feel it is hormonal too. It started after pregnancy, but just minor bloating and worsened much when my period returned.
After getting off the Wai diet, I started eating SAD foods every day. Just about one or two small things a day, to see how my body would react. I had never tested it.
I did not break out from anything. My skin was even great (but I do believe it will still break out during ovulation and period as always. I ate sugar, wheat, drank coffee, had dairy products, the whole program. I do not react to any foods (anymore), no breakouts, no hypoglycemia, I did not even feel shitty. I was also much less bloated....yesterday I ate the most grain products, Pizza for lunch, rice for dinner and I was barely bloated at all -_-....that really sucks.
Today was my last day. I don't want to eat that way permanently of course, but I needed to see a few things for myself. I am 100% sure now my acne is hormonal. So I can stop guessing and eliminating even healthy foods.
As far as the bloating goes...- I think my body is not used to a lot of plants and fruits. I was raised on grains only. It seems I have a problem with fiber from fruits, since peeling fruits makes a difference when it comes to digestive pains.
And I also DO have a fructose malabsorption....
It is not normal, not being able to even digest a small amount of fruits and veggies properly. My body is certainly weird there. I have said it before that I can not go low carb. I have experienced to many problems on it, and I am not sold on the benefits of very low carb. I have read too much saying that it is not ideal. At least for many people. There are a TON of people that ran into low carb problems all over the web. People that ate a Paleo diet, that had a good plan and stuck with it for a long time...I am not sure everyone can adapt to LC. Too much carbs and sugar are certainly not ideal either, and I don't see how it would be natural to binge on fruits with sugar all day.
Probiotics:
On a positive note, the probiotics have taken away my digestive pains :) I felt mild discomfort and cramps when digesting prior to probiotics, but the pain is gone...unless I eat high fructose corn syrup...which I am not planning to, but I tested it to confirm I am still fructose intolerant (I wish I wasn't)
Parasite Cleanse:
Possibly up next. Just waiting for ovulation to pass because I want to see how much I will break out this time using probiotics (so far only minor zits, but that might just be the quiet before the storm)
Baby stuff:
I have baby fever ;( or rather, it has been getting stronger. I really should wait at least a year though. I want to give my body time to heal, figure out the hormonal problems, be well established on a good diet , weigh enough since I will lose weight in the 1st trimester, and most importantly make sure my son will get enough breastmilk.
Most women dry up in pregnancy and I want him to get the toddler designed bm during the third year. The composition changes during the last time then.
I would like him to nurse through pregnancy too and I want him to be old enough to understand that my milk supply will only be low for about 15- 20 weeks and that he can still nurse, just less and then resume when the baby is here, old enough so he can get enough nutrition from solids, old enough to not need other milk (I plan to freeze my milk too). He does love his milky, he was "sick" (runny nose only) recently and did not nurse much due to a stuffy nose, his latch is also not great and so my supply dropped drastically (!!). When his nose was better and he wanted to resume nursing, there was barely any milk and he was freaking out. He woke seven times at night, crying for milk, he was cranky during the day, lost weight, he was upset at me, thinking I did not "want" to give him milk, he was sitting on my lap, crying and begging while saying "Mama" and even used the words "Happa Happa" (our word for nursing - German) for the first time to convince me...I was so sad. I cut out ALL solids for a while, started taking lots of Fenugreek herbs again and made sure he sat down while nursing and not running off before he was done). My supply is back up and he gained weight on mostly breastmilk. What is odd is that the less soilds he eats, and the more breastmilk he gets, the heavier he will be. He was very chunky up until a year old (95th percentile). Lately he has been between the 50th and 75th percentile (75th now that he gained weight). One more reason to make sure he has lots of breastmilk available. My idea is for him to nurse, and if he wants solids after that he can have as much as he wants, as long as he does not skip nursing session. Plenty of both should assure that he keeps that healthy, robust look that some toddler lack. Toddlers are often skinny and picky eaters, and I believe it is because they are meant to drink a good amount of milk for longer than we think. At least they would have in nature, before humans decided to wean children onto solids early.
If I was young, I would not worry as much about conceiving again, but I want more than two children...at least that would be my dream, and my body will be most fertile between 27-37 (late bloomer). So I got six more years of easy conception and pregnancies.
Of course I could be a total exception and be fertile long past my mid thirties, but do I KNOW that for sure? So I won't bet on it, although I am positive my baby making future is rather bright.

Hair loss:
Well, my hair is recovering from the hair loss, regrowing fast like always...I only really trimmed 1 inch, and did my monthly trims, so it is still the same length as before. It is thinner, but since my ends are not too transparent, I decided to not cut it much and instead wait for it to thicken up again. It usually only takes a half year. Also...with hair loss my hair only goes from rather thick to medium thick, so I guess I can't complain. Although I would like to have my natural overall volume of almost 4 inches again some day...maybe after children :), and then I might grow it long again too. Hip-Tailbone length feels a bit short.
Interestingly, I did not shed as much as usual, since the herbs and some other supplements like D3 drastically decreased the shedding rate during the hair loss, so it was not all that devastating to wait out the three months for the shedding to stop...I now lose 3 hairs in the morning as opposed to one hair ball.
That was long....wow.

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Wai Dieters / Re: Cutting out veggies for some time
« on: May 04, 2013, 03:49:22 am »
I now read something saying that parasite cleansers can cause problems with reproductive health and birth defects but I can't find anything online.

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Wai Dieters / Re: Cutting out veggies for some time
« on: April 28, 2013, 05:29:19 am »
We already ordered parastroy. I hope it is good vut the reviews sounded promising.

I had to interrupt the Wai Diet because I lost so much weight quickly. I went from 49.5 to 45.5. But only after one day of eating normal I was back to 47.5?? So weird.

My bloating had gotten better and also my skin. I don't think it would fully take carr of my acne though. It seems to be mostly hormonal. Since stopping the herbal supplements it came back some and I also had PMS and a heavier than normal period this month. My skin seemed less inflamed on Wai though and my breakouts were much smaller and healed faster.

I don't want to fully quit. But I will be adding some veggies so the food does not fly through. If I figure out how to maintain my weight I might give it another try.

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Wai Dieters / Re: Cutting out veggies for some time
« on: April 23, 2013, 01:32:31 am »
Van
I will be talking to my gastroenterologist tomorrow about my digestive issues. Maybe he knows such a lab?

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Wai Dieters / Re: Cutting out veggies for some time
« on: April 22, 2013, 08:13:02 pm »
Bump

Sadly they don't seem to ship here. I just looked up a bunch of paraites and can't stop being nauseated right now. Some of them infest such weird parts of the body...how can you even get rid of them when not in your intestines?


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Wai Dieters / Re: Cutting out veggies for some time
« on: April 20, 2013, 05:03:05 pm »
So if I don't see anything crawling in my poop is it likely I don't have worms? Or are there other types and I could still benefit from deworming?
I have eaten some fish that seems had parasites or bacteria. At least we felt sick after.

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Wai Dieters / Re: Cutting out veggies for some time
« on: April 20, 2013, 03:18:54 am »
Wow! That is a lot of eggs! I don't think I will be craving that many. I am building up to test how many I want to eat. Had three so far today.
We buy organic free range eggs, they are fed some grains and pick their own food. Best we can get here.

GS how did you deworm yourself? Are there any ways to donit for a weakling like me? ;)

My protein intake is pretty low right now too. Hopefully not too low.

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Wai Dieters / Re: Cutting out veggies for some time
« on: April 19, 2013, 05:31:42 pm »
I never knew you were fruitarian!

The Wai diet seems to be easy in your country since you have all rhe fresh fruits and sea foods available that you need.

How many raw egg yolks do you suggest I should eat? 

I lost weight since I started on this diet (from 108.6 to 103 lbs). Is that normal or Could it be that I am not absorbing some of the calories?
Atm I don't have a better fat than olive oil and eggs. I eat about 2500-2700 cals a day.

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Wai Dieters / Re: Cutting out veggies for some time
« on: April 18, 2013, 10:55:26 pm »
1 day of mea
1 day of meat + fat + water most probably won't crash you.
You may then find out if that calms down your tummy.

Okay. Aside from that, how can I make a fruit heavy diet more healthy? What is the least amount of meat that should be consumed?

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Wai Dieters / Re: Cutting out veggies for some time
« on: April 18, 2013, 06:39:33 am »
Suiren,
Sounds like you have definitely been around the block a few times.
Best wishes, and  thanks for continuing to share what you learn so that we all can benefit.
It's so frustrating to being 'doing everything right' and still have issues.
Honestly, the GAPS thing hasn't worked for me or a friend of mine either. The raw meat finally did -- hence, I'm here. Yet I believe the knowledge base of GAPS is basically sound for those with gut issues.

Yeah it seems it does help a lot of cooked Paleo folks. Maybe my stomach really does not want fiber at all right now.
Or - it could be my fructose intolerance. That is why I started eating so many grain products years ago. But sometimes I doubt i have an actual fructose intolerance. Itherwise my stomach would be much more upset about the amount of fruits I am eating right now.

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Wai Dieters / Re: Cutting out veggies for some time
« on: April 18, 2013, 06:35:32 am »
Wai Diet guru does not recommend raw cod at all.  He thinks it has too much parasites.

Try to find raw meat / raw fish that you are sure of, and try doing just raw meat for a few days like 2 to 3, no fruits, no veggies.  See if that calms your guts.

Hm, I understand the thought behind it, but I will probably crash hard from sudden carb withdrawal.  :o Hypoglycemia might be payjng me a visit. What about having juiced fruit with the meat?

And no more cod...eww..

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Wai Dieters / Re: Cutting out veggies for some time
« on: April 17, 2013, 06:18:54 am »
Surien,
You very well CAN get diarrhea from probiotics.
This was the case with my autistic nephew on the GAPS program.

It certainly can be frustrating when our guts don't cooperate with us! I wish you all the best in your journey to learn more about this.

From our experience with the GAPS (Gut and Psychology Syndrome) diet of Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride, if one's gut is leaky and unhealthy, probiotics need to be added very gradually to prevent reactions. And foods need to be very easy to digest (here's were some lightly cooked and pureed foods come in) in the beginning stages. Fruits and veges that feed the wrong bacteria will aggravate the conditions.

According to GAPS -- while raw animal products are most easy to digest --- the raw fruits and veges are more difficult. Better to juice or cook well. The fiber and starch feed the wrong bacteria which contribute to a leaky gut (and thus immune reactions). The so-called 'bad' bacteria (which should be balanced by the 'good' ones) release toxins that weaken the integrity of the gut wall. Other yeasts and fungus can actually drill holes through the gut lining. In the GAPS program, they are careful to select SCD compliant fruits and veges and cook them well in the beginning. I believ this kind of thing has been discussed before in this forum.
 
The gut needs lots of time to heal -- and it will.
I would encourage anyone seeking a thorough treatment of gut health to get Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride book. Her program is healing the gut in order to successfully cure autism and other learning/mental disorders. She is an advocate of raw meats and raw animal products --- but in the beginning stages of her program, the body may not tolerate raw.

On a further note:  Did anyone read Chris Kresser's recent blog on the book, An Epidemic of Absence?
http://chriskresser.com/the-hygiene-hypothesis-is-modern-disease-associated-with-being-too-clean
 it's a more in-depth look at the role of parasites and bacteria in our health. AND it appears the leading edge research doesn't believe that probiotics actually re-populate the gut. Rather, . . .


Thank you, I hope I can figure something out!
It does not sound pretty (the gut damage).
I really wonder if I have damage to my gut. Since I do experience problems, I decided to finally get checked. I have been putting it off for almost 15 years.

The SIBO protocol is supposedly very similar to the GAPS diet and works the same way. I cooked all my foods while on it. I only ate the foods that were supposedly easy to absorb. I drank bone broth and ate the meat along with carrots from the soup.
Weirdly the bone broth caused me immediate bloating. Not as severe as tubers, but it was noticeable. Whereas something like a banana, causes no reaction.

I haven't been on the raw fruit and meat only Paleo diet long enough to say that these foods are all fine with my stomach. I might have to test more, but SIBO/ GAPS did sadly not make a difference for me.
Maybe my problem is of a different nature and not bacterial overgrowth.

My doctor wants me to get checked for colitis... :o I think it is unlikely, I don't have any symptoms of it. I better not have it or ima have to go murder someone. I'm so tired of diagnoses  :P I don't think I have it though, really...

Anyhow, I am doing the best I can.

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Wai Dieters / Re: Cutting out veggies for some time
« on: April 17, 2013, 06:06:57 am »
Just throwing this out there. The types of carbs in fruits, (most) veggies, and certain nuts are simple sugars. Which actually makes then easier to absor b. Since they're already single sugars, they get absorbed immediately. Complex carbs are links of sugar that need to be separated/broken down before they're absorbed.

The scd is actually mainly simple sugars, and that helps a lot of people. Something else to consider is that all complex carbs have to be broken down into simple sugars to be absorbed. Otherwise they go to the colin and feed bacteria.

I remember reading that veggies are generally harder to digest than fruits?

It is the reverse.  A great compatible with you probiotic should stop all diarrhoea, stop all stomach pain, give you a solid quiet gut, can help you digest almost anything, stop you from farting, give you nice solid comfortable poops... good probiotics will help you gain weight.

In my country we have papayas, watermelons, melons, guava, durian, hydrating green oranges.  And raw root crops like singkamas and yacon.

Sounds wonderfull. I will see what I can find online. I have been wanting to take them.
Oh and I am sure I can find at least some of these fruits here. I have even seen the green oranges before.

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Suiren, how are your stools now?   Does fruit not cause any digestive upset or acne?
jessica
They are less firm and the color is lighter. My problem tends to be constipation. Less since I gave up a SAD diet but still a little too hard sometimes. The day before yesterday I had diarrhea after eating raw cod fish, but I did not eat any meat yesterday and today I did not have any pain in my intestines. I am still bloated, but not as painful as after certain veggies (rutabaga, ouch!).
I have only been on a clean raw diet for two days, and the four days prior to that I was transitioning while still eating a few problematic foods.
I am steadily clearing up and this morning my jaw dropped when I saw how clear my face was. The past weeks my digestive issues seem to have progressed and my skin had gotten worse again. It was almost clear after the detox with the supplements, but adding more veggies into my diet might have caused it to get worse slowly...who knows.
I also seem to be much more sensitive to all sorts of toxins nowadays.

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Wai Dieters / Re: Cutting out veggies for some time
« on: April 16, 2013, 07:53:21 pm »
GS

So diarrhea is to be expected when ODing on probiotics? Or would it be a bad sign?

Do you know of any quality low carb and low sugar fruits? (Preferably a decent amount of calories). Other than the ones I have named.

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Wai Dieters / Cutting out veggies for some time
« on: April 16, 2013, 12:34:48 am »
I cut out all vegetables to see if it will help my indigestion problems and the acne I developed since eating a low carb/ ketogenic diet.

When searching for Paleo and Fruit only I came across the Wai Diet. I like some aspects of it, but others I don't, (so much sugar) so I am now trying to tweak it to my liking.

Until recently I ate a  omnivorous Paleo Diet with cooked veggies and some cooked meat. 
I don't have a lot of options. I CAN NOT go low carb again, because I don't have a spare liver or thyroid. My health was bad then and adding carbs resolved all the problems. So that is just not for me right now.
I also don't want to eat extremely high carb, and it seems loading up on fruits that can happen.

The diet allows raw meat aside from fish nowadays, which made it a lot better. My plan is to eat raw fish as well as raw grasfed and wild meat.

I want to cut out veggies until I get relief and then carefully reintroduce a few, one at a time.

I the meantime I am wondering how I can reduce the sugar in this diet and add some fat aside from olive oil.
What would be some good not so sweet fruits that still have a decent amount of calories and nutrients?

At the moment I am eating about 200g of raw meat or fish a day. Can't afford to buy much more (I still get a stomach ache and soft stools from raw meat, but hope it will stop). I eat bananas, coconut, avocado, cucumber, tomato and zucchini too. I don't season and drink only water. (the adding juice with oil part sounded a bit extreme)

I want to make sure I don't lose weight, as always. I get to 2700 cals with this diet, that is more than before, so I suppose there is no way I would lose weight?

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Hot Topics / Re: Women and Men
« on: March 28, 2013, 09:26:32 pm »
Women are at peak fertility 10 years after their period started. This can last up to 10 more years, which makes 20 years of decent fertility.
Girls mature faster when they have their periods early and this can continue through out life. So a girl that got her period at 9, will be most fertile at 19 (this is common today), at 11 will be most fertile at 21 (statistically a fertile age according to modern charts), but one who got here period at lets say 17 (which was common in the past) would peak around 27, and would be enjoying high fertility until 37.
Thinking of women I know, it does seem to be true and late bloomers often maintain something girly for longer.
It is all connected to the change of our hormones, and how we changed throughout the last century women have narrower hips, wider waists, larger boobs then they used to.
Men reach their fertile age much sooner and do age a bit faster. But then again they can often reproduce for longer.
I guess it is all pretty balanced. :)

Before we started counting age, we would have judged by looks! (among other things)  :) Supports the theory.

What makes you think procreation is the only goal of sexual love?  It must have another useful function, otherwise already pregnant women wouldn’t have any sexual drive and men wouldn’t have any either for pregnant women.

Almost all the animal except bonobos, humans and perhaps dolphins and whales have periods of rut, between which they have no sexual activity. So, there is something special with us, humans.

Ever thought about that? Don’t tell me the other purpose is pleasure as sexologists say because an animal wasting its energy for pleasure only would have been wiped out by natural selection.

I agree.

My husband and I have a 7 year age difference. I never really notice it much, unless we talk about things from our child hood and he mentions things that were not popular when I was a child.
I never had anyone walk up to us and point out the age difference. But if people would tell me that I do look older, I would not really care either.

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Hot Topics / Re: raw breads
« on: March 28, 2013, 05:39:11 am »
nice tips. this is the recipe i was talking about.
http://www.therawtarian.com/raw-bread-recipe-moist-spongy-loaves


This uses almond. If you don't have a problem with almond it should digest just fine. I like to use coconut flour, which I digest best.
I haven't followed a recipe yet, but I just made the batter with eggs and coconut flour and then blend it with apple, banana and cinnamon.
I have also used dates before, with ginger, all spice, gloves and a bit of cocoa powder to make something gingerbread like. I "bake" on paper. The cookies need to sit for a little before I can pull them off well though.

I have tried some raw vegan recipes. They really are creative. I think raw vegans are definitely reaping some benefits from eating raw, good quality foods. If they were to add raw meat it would be good (So many seem to be Vitamin B12 deficient). It is better than SAD, vegetarian and regular vegan...

And then there are fruitarians...I have no idea how they can eat so much fruit. My body would be begging me to stop.

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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: Bloating, digestive problems?
« on: March 28, 2013, 05:29:41 am »
Suiren, you can just search the internet. The first link that I found said: "Adult women need about 46 grams protein a day."
Which sounds about right. So 100-200 grams meat/fish would be enough for you.

My recent food journal entries say I consume about 56g. I guess that is fine too :)


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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: Bloating, digestive problems?
« on: March 28, 2013, 05:27:38 am »
maybe just try and add more offal anyway, if you can get it.  and think about digestive enzymes and those probiotics I mentioned, if anything they will help you digest the carbohydrates you are eating and hopefully cut down on the gas.  I think if your guts heals enough from this you will be able to slowly taper off carbs without losing weight and also stop supplementing, this could take a year of good steady healing tho.

I will definitely look into the digestive enzymes and probiotics too. I have been considering them for weight gain before, but now I have even more reasons.
The weight loss is not my biggest concern when dropping carbs, I lost it slowly over time and the stabilized at a lower weight. But what was scary is how it threw my body off and all those problems I listed above appeared (liver, thyroid, gallbladder, hair loss, PMS, acne, fatigue, inflammation)
But I suppose if my gut is better I will be absorbing my foods much differently. So it might be a different story.
I was not planning to go very low on carbs again. That was more or less a coincidence that this happened. I think my carb intake (about 170) is not extremely high compared to a lower carb SAD diet (275g)? At least I am not binging on carbs  ;) I like eating a small amount of veggies and fruits...a little bit of everything, just balanced atm.

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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: Bloating, digestive problems?
« on: March 28, 2013, 03:02:12 am »
Bio eggs are fine; I buy free-range at a farmers market, but have never had problems with the bio eggs either. But check at the better shops, the supermarket where I buy also has pastured eggs, and actually from two different producers.

If you have problems finding good meat, just eat it less often.. and you don't need to eat tons of meat and protein anyway, especially considering you're a woman at 50kg.

The fear of PUFA in fish regarding the thyroid sounds unfounded to me, but maybe there is some connection, I couldn't say for sure.

How much meat is good then you think? I eat meat daily atm, less than I used to. About 2 filets, or two chicken breasts at day or about 250 grams...something around there.

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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: Bloating, digestive problems?
« on: March 28, 2013, 02:57:15 am »
Raw grass fed is best

Whether raw grain fed is better than seared grass fed, I can't really say.

What problems are you having with raw grass fed.

It feels very "cold" in my stomach at first and then results into a stomach ache that feels very different from digestive pains (but it was room temp. meat). My whole stomach feels sore, with some sharp pains and a few times I got nauseated.
If i eat small amounts, I get the cold feeling too and some discomfort but it subsides.

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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: Bloating, digestive problems?
« on: March 28, 2013, 02:54:57 am »
jessica

Thank you, that was very detailed. I will try to defrost and then leave it a bit. It makes sense.

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I am going to suggest that you work on getting offal instead of carbs and upping fats to keep your weight up.
 
But I just got off of low carb (25-69 g a day halfed because of breastfeeding) because of all the problems I developed on it.
I went LC last year August, I started losing weight and looked really shitty, my skin was not as clear anymore (it was nice and clear at first when switching to a moderate carb Paleo diet), by the end of September I looked like death, my face was sunk in, I had dark undereye bags, I was always tired. I got my period back despite breastfeeding exclusively still (too early imo) and started having PMS.
In October my hair started falling out and the little zits got worse, I started having inflammatory pains, first in my right arm, then all over my body. I also developed joint pains and swollen finger joints.
My acne and PMS worsened with every month. My cycle was long and irregular. I got my period every 40 days instead of every 29, I would only get black sticky blood, instead of regular red blood, it would last for 11 days (my period used to be 3 days long only, 3 days of light bleeding and never the slightest pain or discomfort!!), I would get backaches that felt like back labor and I had to sleep off the pain. I would have very painful cramps too.
In January my labs came back and showed that my liver enzymes were elevated, and my thyroid was not doing well anymore. I was told to start taking levothyroxine for my thyroid. A more detailed test of my liver showed a lot of inflammation and my enzymes were so high, my doctor was considering hospitalizing me if they don't drop soon.

I had started the detox with herbs just a little before that and my skin was improving fast.
I went back on more carbs. From then on every lab result got better. My liver went back to normal, my thyroid was better than ever, my pains went away, the fatigue, my period was almost normal again, I gained weight, my hair loss slowed down, etc. Every problem just gone like that.
I have all the test results and will post them in my journal.

If anyone knows why that happened, please share. From what I have read it either says too low carb is not good for many or going low carb quickly is not good.
Either way, that is how my body responds and it is telling me it is doing better with a moderate amount of carbs right now.

I would feel awesome if it wasn't for my digestive issues and blemishes that are not fully gone (possibly from the digestive issues).

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Do you get enough minerals Suiren, I forget, do you eat any seaweeds?  Maine Coast and Frontier Brand are legit and should be added to meals/water.  Kelp is especially good to heal the gut as it is mucilaginous but also has iodine, so it doesn't cause bacteria overgrowth in the intestines.

I love to consider and observe things like face mapping and iridology, whether or not its truly legit I cannot tell.  In myself I do see some coincidences, but they may be just that!  I still think its interesting:)

I don't think I get enough minerals. I even heard that we can't get all the minerals into our diet with food...I eat nori once in a while. Is that okay for seaweed?

The face mapping seems to be true for some, but not everyone with liver issues will break out I think.
It seems to match my past and current problems that are connected to hormones and seem to also worsen my digestive issues in turn. I hate how it is all connected ;)



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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: Bloating, digestive problems?
« on: March 28, 2013, 01:43:09 am »
@Iguana
That makes sense. Thank your for explaining.
So once all my food is of better quality my sensitive gut should do better transitioning. That is something to look forward too.
The salmon was the really orange looking kind with skin. I ate it off the skin unseasoned and uncooked. My husband had a rendevous with the toilet all night and my throat got really sore and swollen with some cold symptoms. Not sure if it was tasty...it tasted stronger than expected.

Eveheart
I'm not sure you are understanding me correctly. Like I said, I have been wanting to get off of grainfed, and have reduced it, but I was just asking DaBoss88 what he thinks, since he recommended grain fed. I wasn't sure how he meant it.

I have never seen a naturopathic doctor :) would be nice though. I have seen regular physicians and basically just got test results so I could decide what to do and make sure my strategy was working.

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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: Bloating, digestive problems?
« on: March 28, 2013, 01:29:07 am »
I would try eating the salmon.  If you start to notice negative symptoms from it, then back off.  Otherwise, it's wild and fresh, and that's waaaay better than grainfed beef.

I would eat more if it wasn't for my thyroid. The PUFA in salmon can aggravate Hashimotos. :(
I recently got another affordable fish at the organic store here. It was called Pangasius filet and I tolerated it well. I will have to see if it has PUFA.

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