Everyone's different and responds differently. And yes, 30 minutes of googling "animals eat salt" will yield a lot of info on animals seeking out salt.

From a scientific stand point, the body does use sodium and chloride in the exact forms in salt. The body uses sodium ions (Na+) for nerve conduction (among other things), and chloride ions (Cl-) for other things (water balance, hydrochloric acid, etc.). Salt when placed in liquid, or ingested, forms individual sodium and chloride ions which the body can then use for a variety of different things.

Still, some do fine without it, some don't. Some do well with it, some don't. All depends on the individual.

I doubt this theory will work. All I can tell is that the 2nd man's photo shows he is severely inbred.

Lol that's one inbred mofo. You can tell by his shirt, also the lighting - really brings out his inbredness.

Hi everyone. This is a post explaining the difference between the terms organic and inorganic when it comes to food production, and chemistry. The term organic is used very loosely to describe a variety of things in an inaccurate way. For example, it's common in raw food circles to say that cooking makes something inorganic, or that something is bad because it doesn't come in an organic form. These are inappropriate ways of using the terms organic and inorganic, and I'll clarify in this post.

Organic in grocery terms simply means without the use of pesticides, GMO's, or with pesticides that are allowed in organic food. When it's not organic it can contain pesticides and GMO's.

Organic in chemistry simply means that it contains carbon. Inorganic means it doesn't contain carbon. The body makes and uses both organic and inorganic compounds. For example the body uses protein, fat, and carbohydrates which are organic compounds. It also uses chloride to make hydrochloric acid, both of which are inorganic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_chemistry - "The range of chemicals studied in organic chemistry include hydrocarbons, compounds containing only carbon and hydrogen, as well as myriad compositions based always on carbon, but also containing other elements,"

The way organic is used to describe how cooking denatures nutrients and makes things inorganic is a completely inaccurate use of the term organic and inorganic/non-organic.

For example, cooking produces heterocyclic amines. Some would consider it to therefore be "inorganic," however by the actual definition of organic heterocyclic amines are often times organic compounds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterocyclic_compound - "Although heterocyclic compounds may be inorganic, most contain at least one carbon."

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-heterocyclic-amines.htm - "A cyclic chemical compound is composed of elemental atoms bonded together in the form of a ring. Most cyclic compounds are organic, containing carbon."

This is just an FYI for those who throw around the term organic and inorganic so loosely as if to describe some magical quality. The body needs, uses, and produces both organic and inorganic compounds.

Love it ^^^ 

I just bought the book "Orthomolecular Treatment for Schizophrenia" and going to send it to my brother, because of you

Nice to hear 

Congratulations!

Thank you both!

While diet can be very helpful, remember there are other aspects necessary for health - sleep, exercise, tranquility, and anything else you can think of that will make you feel better.

Diet's a great thing to do, but I personally think diet in isolation of other aspects is counterproductive to the overall goal of being healthy. After all, when observing healthy thriving animals they not only eat raw food - they also exercise regularly. During the day the birds fly around exercising, but at night they've gone off to rest and none are flying.

If I could make one other recommendation too, don't get to strung up on following a dietary dogma. Every diet promoter, whether within raw animal foods type diets, vegan diets, etc. will claim optimal health from their diets. For some those diets work wonderfully. But for a lot of people they get caught up in trying to maintain such strictness with their perceived "perfect diet" that they ignore that they're not getting better.

Aajonous' diet is a perfect example. He claims it takes many years for true healing to take place. This mind set promotes putting your faith in the diet eventually working out to your favor. Maybe in the first 5 years you're not "truly better," but maybe in 15 you will be. It's a terrible thing to get caught up in that because eventually you're way down the road and you've made some minor improvements, but you're nowhere near what you really wanted.

Keep your mind open, maybe one strict diet you thought was the right diet needs some modifications - maybe some salt, or there's an underlying deficiency that needs to be remedied. No telling what your body specifically needs, but what is absolutely certain is there are many diets with many misconceptions on what is optimal for human well being.

If something's not working right now, change it. The worst that can happen is you spent a week trying something different and it doesn't help, best case it's something that helps you and you'll be glad you averted from "the norm."

Good luck.

WebMD - Fitness & Exercise
http://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/guide/health-fitness-fact-vs-fiction

http://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/guide/get-motivated-exercise

http://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/guide/get-regular-exercise-for-mental-health-topic-overview

Don't forget your 30 minutes a day! Some say exercise is even more important than diet!!!

BOTH wild ocean fish and pastured animals are great foods.

I'm not advocating against fish. I'm discussing how the SAD has so much omega 6, that a little omega 3 from fish wouldn't do much.

Everything doesn't have to be an argument. You can find pieces of the post you agree with, and expand on it.

This kind of gets into conspiracy theories. But what do you guys think of this.

It seems like there's a lot of recommendations to increase certain foods and do certain things.

1) eat fish for omega 3's
- No amount of fish is ever going to balance the amount of omega 6 in the SAD. All I can see eating 3 servings of fish weekly is increasing mercury intake dramatically. And please don't say anything about it being in its' organic form unless you're ready to cite sources. Organic in chemistry (the way people describe mercury from the ocean) means nothing more than containing carbon and hydrogen, and organic in food (ie no pesticides) are completely different things. Point is eating maybe 6 grams of omega 3 from fish each week isn't going to make up for the other 455 grams of SAD fats (based on RDA of fat for a week).

Makes more sense to me to eat pastured animal fats, activate enzymes needed to make conversions of omega 3 ALA to DHA and EPA.

Your post struck a common chord with me. I've even had it happen here on this forum, where I'm labeled according to what I ate last week. My source material is available to everybody, and my approach is flexible - if I eat a potato one week, that doesn't mean I eat potatoes as a way of life.

Ahhh, thanks for letting me share!

Just remember, you're not doing yourself any good if you're not eating an instinctive diet... Avoiding EMF's... Avoiding salt... and most definitely avoiding water! Lol

Whoa.  Need feedback on this.

We're all gonna die. Lol

Commercial milk=high levels of gm soy feed=high estrogen

duh

I mean THEY'RE all gonna die. Lol

If they are measuring estrogen excreted in urine how do they know that the excess estrogen wasn't just passed?

That's probably it. The body absorbs a lot of stuff, and depending on what it does and doesn't need it excretes the excess. For example, if someone has sufficient sodium in their body and then ingests a high sodium meal. The excess sodium is excreted in healthy individuals. If somebody is low in sodium, the body does everything it can to conserve sodium and absorb as much as it can from diet. Same with calcium, potassium, chloride, etc.

I think it's important all of us realize there are no perfect foods. Modern foods have all been modified extensively - from plant foods (fruits, vegetables), to animal foods (dairy, meats, eggs, etc.). Dairy cows are not what cows were thousands of years ago, fruits are not what they were thousands of years ago, eggs are not from the same chickens thousands of years ago, and fish isn't the same as fish thousands of years ago.

 Even though not biologically identical to what existed 100's of thousands of years ago - it's still much higher quality than most of the modern foods available today.

Hello everyone. I've been med free for 13 weeks now. Things are going well.

I'm using it and it's alright. I'm taking 3-4 tablespoons daily. But I've read up on it further and I'm seeing that the dose of actual choline in lecithin granules is really low. So I'm planning to try a choline-chloride product which has significantly more choline than the lecithin granules.

http://www.doctoryourself.com/lecithin.html

Bwahahaha look what I found - "Beef and sheep brains are also an excellent source of lecithin, but don't expect me to recommend them."

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/gut-second-brain/

"Technically known as the enteric nervous system, the second brain consists of sheaths of neurons embedded in the walls of the long tube of our gut, or alimentary canal, which measures about nine meters end to end from the esophagus to the anus. The second brain contains some 100 million neurons, more than in either the spinal cord or the peripheral nervous system, Gershon says."

""The system is way too complicated to have evolved only to make sure things move out of your colon," says Emeran Mayer, professor of physiology, psychiatry and biobehavioral sciences at the David Geffen School of Medicine at the University of California, Los Angeles (U.C.L.A.). For example, scientists were shocked to learn that about 90 percent of the fibers in the primary visceral nerve, the vagus, carry information from the gut to the brain and not the other way around. "Some of that info is decidedly unpleasant," Gershon says."

"U.C.L.A.'s Mayer is doing work on how the trillions of bacteria in the gut "communicate" with enteric nervous system cells (which they greatly outnumber). His work with the gut's nervous system has led him to think that in coming years psychiatry will need to expand to treat the second brain in addition to the one atop the shoulders."

This is really cool. The digestive tract literally functions without instructions from the brain/central nervous system. It even uses all the same neurotransmitters found in the brain.

It has a mind of its own, you could say.. Lol