Im all for discussions with people who hold interesting points of view, and debating the most far out theories with gusto, but will agree with Ys that there comes a time after one makes such challenging and belligerent claims, that you have to put up or shut up. Where is the proof that humans can obtain enough B12 on an entirely vegetarian diet? Where is the proof that Humans can thrive on a vegetarian diet past the second generation? All we are hearing is hyperbole and obfuscation.
Nothing so far has convinced me to give up eating meat. Many of the other subjects regarding the terrible state of modern man I will agree with, but I have to strongly disagree with the conclusion that vegetarianism is an answer to any of it.
As for the intellectual challenge to prove yourself mightier than all the meat eaters here...I'll take a bite..but one must first recognize that there are multiple forms of intelligence...mechanical, emotional, cognitional, kinetic and on and on and on.....
You maybe able to write magnificent cursive, and articulate golden verse better than I, but I would best you in a heart beat in a number of different challenges. I would beat you in a Pole dancing competition any day, and you wouldn't stand a chance in a cage match with me.... as an electrician I have highly advanced technical skills....the point being that anyone can claim superiority in one thing, but to truly span the universe of intellect one must perform multiple feats of ingeniousness.
Personally I dont buy into the theory of vegetarianism providing a survival edge in any contest of strength, intellect, or reproductive prowess. So far I haven't seen any proof that veterinarians can even produce healthy offspring past the second generation, so its hard to believe all the other claims regarding the alleged intellectual superiority that could be attained on such a meatless diet.
You'll figure out how humans are able to produce their own B12 with bacteria if you can figure out why professional basketball players are the size they are.
I'm not a vegan by choice or label myself as a vegan. I'm a plant only eater by force because 4 mercury fillings were placed in my teeth at 13 and I've lived in HELL for many years while the experts did nothing but try to abuse me more. When I gained my awareness because of abundance of plant foods and a plant based Vitamin D3 supplement. I then started to figure it out for myself and made my discoveries.
I have magnificent cursive because of the oily seeds high in Omega 6's, magnesium and arginine however I will never be able to articulate any books since I'm a born polymath and straight forward copy and paste learning will never work since it leads to cognitive dissonance. You've lowered your intelligence to the level of a chimp regarding the cage match and I wouldn't be so sure since everyone who has ever fought me has never been able to hit me due to my fast reflexes. A better amicable feat would be to see who can move more skids of big interlocking bricks and see who cries first of back pain.
I have to give it to you that electrical work requires highly advanced technical skills... especially when wiring those 3 ways and 4 ways in your head however this type of work is below what the energy in my brain is capable of. I've done it and it's easy.
Most vegetarians/vegans eat a low fat&protein diet and hence the problem. I on the other hand get harder morning erections from consuming a cup of lightly ground hulled sesame seeds than I ever did consuming raw grass fed meat.
Search libido on this forum and you'll see many have problems with loosing their libido. Hence the irony of this thread.