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Offline ElDiablo

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Gaining weight on zerocarb?
« on: May 11, 2018, 01:40:02 am »
How hard is it to gain weight eating only animal flesh or is it even possible at all? Is there anyone on the forum who gained a substantial amount of weight on zero carb?

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Re: Gaining weight on zerocarb?
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2018, 04:09:36 am »
How hard is it to gain weight eating only animal flesh or is it even possible at all? Is there anyone on the forum who gained a substantial amount of weight on zero carb?
I used to be underweight and gained back a lot of weight as a carnivore. I've found that eventually (if your underweight), your weight stabilizes and you stop gaining body fat for the most part. I've been able to gain more muscle once I started working out. But otherwise it seemed impossible to gain weight. So if you don't plan on doing some resistance training and eating as much as possible (obviously), you will most likely not gain weight if you are not underweight. This seems to be the experience for a lot of other people eating a carnivorous diet, consisting only of meat.

You can certainly build strength and muscle, but I am not sure how many (if any) have gained body fat, assuming they were not underweight and lacked and adequate amount.

Your body will have a stable weight (neither overweight or underweight) as long as you eat enough. If you want to gain a lot of mass, eat a lot and incorporate resistance training.

100 grams of fat has 900 calories, and there are plenty of sources of pure raw fat. Organ and muscle fat and especially bone marrow are the best sources of fat and could easily give you a 1000 or more calories in a single meal, even if that's all you eat. Eggs are a great source of calories, although not everyone is a fan of eggs. Any fatty cuts of muscle meat add more calories than they would if they were just lean, and there are some other parts like brain, tongue, belly etc... which contain higher amounts of fats. In general, focusing on fat for the calories and then the protein for the muscle building is optimal. Obviously macronutrients are not everything, but as long as you are eating organ meats and fat, you should be getting all the vitamins/minerals as well.

Personally, I just started doing resistance training and eating large amounts of bone marrow and enough protein. It worked for me.

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Re: Gaining weight on zerocarb?
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2018, 12:47:25 pm »
I used to be underweight and gained back a lot of weight as a carnivore. I've found that eventually (if your underweight), your weight stabilizes and you stop gaining body fat for the most part. I've been able to gain more muscle once I started working out. But otherwise it seemed impossible to gain weight. So if you don't plan on doing some resistance training and eating as much as possible (obviously), you will most likely not gain weight if you are not underweight. This seems to be the experience for a lot of other people eating a carnivorous diet, consisting only of meat.

You can certainly build strength and muscle, but I am not sure how many (if any) have gained body fat, assuming they were not underweight and lacked and adequate amount.

Your body will have a stable weight (neither overweight or underweight) as long as you eat enough. If you want to gain a lot of mass, eat a lot and incorporate resistance training.

100 grams of fat has 900 calories, and there are plenty of sources of pure raw fat. Organ and muscle fat and especially bone marrow are the best sources of fat and could easily give you a 1000 or more calories in a single meal, even if that's all you eat. Eggs are a great source of calories, although not everyone is a fan of eggs. Any fatty cuts of muscle meat add more calories than they would if they were just lean, and there are some other parts like brain, tongue, belly etc... which contain higher amounts of fats. In general, focusing on fat for the calories and then the protein for the muscle building is optimal. Obviously macronutrients are not everything, but as long as you are eating organ meats and fat, you should be getting all the vitamins/minerals as well.

Personally, I just started doing resistance training and eating large amounts of bone marrow and enough protein. It worked for me.

How much meat and fat are you  eating daily and how much do you weigh? I eat 1kg of mix organs and muscle meat from beef-lamb and around 250 grams of lamb fat. I do some calisthenics training. I am 175 pounds and I seem to be maintaining my weight so far. I guess I need more. Maybe i can try adding some eggs also like you suggest for some extra calories

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Re: Gaining weight on zerocarb?
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2018, 01:43:44 am »
Organs (excluding bone marrow) and muscle together, anywhere from 600-800 grams. But I eat 200-500 grams of bone marrow, along with what fat might be present on some of the other organs or muscle. So, of course, I get most of my calories from bone marrow. I also drink blood, but I'm not sure how much protein/fat/carbohydrates/calories that has. Maintaining weight isn't really much of a problem (as long as I don't fast), it's gaining that I need to eat more for.

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Re: Gaining weight on zerocarb?
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2018, 06:41:20 am »
I have discussed this over at reddit ZC subs more, but I have been able to put on weight, from an underweight start, via ZC. I am not exclusively raw. I eat 2-3lbs a day, about 75% fat by calories.

In my case, combined with training, the result has been a combination of muscle and fat. I will ultimately likely switch to intermittent periods of leaner meat to cut belly fat, but I am not to fussed about it now.

5'11, started low 140s, now high 150s.