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Journals / Re: PaleoPhil's Journal
« on: April 09, 2011, 10:37:00 am »
 :) I am so happy i just saw you have a journal!  I have read a couple of (pages 40-44) also read about eggs in your post on "best paleo for bowel health".  I am not sure how you eat your eggs?  i am sure uncooked but do you just eat the whole raw egg alone or do you consume it with other food to get better results?
thanks  :)
alycia

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Health / Re: Best form of paleo for bowel health?
« on: April 09, 2011, 03:18:43 am »
Thanks KD - your funny  ;D

And yes watermelon is wonderful for needing to get things moving again :) 

Just a side note - it was back when i read "fiber menace" that got me really rethinking my very plant "fiberous" raw food diet,=.  Of course i would lower my fiber intake and the BM's stopped moving (dang fiber done me wrong all these years!).  Now i am looking at foods that the body can take in without having much waste product to irritate the colon, yet still move when it needs too. 

 

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Health / Re: Best form of paleo for bowel health?
« on: April 09, 2011, 02:24:30 am »


I'm curios because I have the feeling that my vlc meat based diet leads to some buildup in my gi tract. From time to time I feel the desire to eat 2.478 kg of papayas to 'clean out' the whole tube.

I've read that most and i mean most (i don't remember if it was 95% but it was close) of uncooked protein is absorbed by the body the rest is turned to ash as it moves into the colon.  I recently listened to an interview on "Fiber MEnace" about this topic and the doctor behind that book also noted that protein, carbs, and fats are nearly 100% absorbed it's fiber that is not.  Poo is mainly dead cells, ash, and bacteria and then if you eat food that did not get digested (Fiber) it is in the poo. 
Pineapple really helps clean you out, better than papaya for me  ;)



I switched to mostly fruits ~ 8 months later just because the diet I was doing wasn't working calorically. I always eliminated fine on a fruit diet ( I had already done quite a few of these treatments). Eventually I ditched doing the treatments and I seemed to thrive in some ways and then after a year or so I really got hit hard and quick. Personally I believe had I continued doing them I wouldn't have been stewing in as much waste and wouldn't have crashed as bad as I did. Without fat in particular there doesn't seem to be much a vehicle for one to remove waste stirred up with the fruits. I went back and did a bunch ~ when I started integrating animal stuff in my diet
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KD - what is your diet??
I'm guessing raw lowcarb not much fruit and veg? 
I just started on this forum, not familiar with you yet  -\,
I also was raw vegan for awhile - then looked into Wai diet for bowel reasons but read so much conflicting things about it.  It seems like it may NOT be worth the expense all that fruit sugar can take on ones body and teeth. 
Were you on the 80/10/10 diet in your high fruit days.  I have experimented with that and really had decent BM's on it but you know i think we need some meat and eggs to thrive! 


I also think certain foods are more helpful then others with not all diets under LC umbrella being great for bowel health.

Ok so what food is not helpful?  I want to make sure i don't over do it b/c i don't see myself doing a water fast - more reasons than i need to get into here but i just am not in the place to do one  :(
 
Basically my main point was if someone is looking to actually re-shape their intestines (and not necessarily cleanse debris from the bowel) filling it with water or attempting to let it reform during fasting seem to be the major assets. The former just seems more safe to me for peoples whose bowels aren't actually moving the stuff around on the fast.

How about really simple foods vita-mixed - if one can not fast and does not have a juicer, would this be just as good as juicing fast? 

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KLOWCARB-
I have been ZC for 2 years. I'm 5'4", 108 lbs., 15% bodyfat (for a woman). I'm very lean.

I count calories. It is fun. I do not EVER trust appetite, and I have zero interest in listening to my body. Try using fitday.
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What does your daily food intake look like? 
what do you eat, how much, calories etc...
sense you count your cal's  :)
I have been easing my way into this and have gained weight in the past on more of a cooked version of this diet - i felt and looked terrible.  i am 5'2, but still pretty close to your size.

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Health / Re: Best form of paleo for bowel health?
« on: April 08, 2011, 07:24:51 am »
I'm pretty sure she's talking about colon hydrotherapy (hopefully gravity based). If anyone can hold an enema for an hour I will shake their hand and give them 20 bucks.


HAHA  ;D
yes that is what i meant.  I don't think it is possible to hold water that long  :)
http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/general-discussion/colon-cleanse/msg52988/#msg52988

There seems to be only two ways to really put a serious dent in solving intestinal kinks and that is the above or hardcore water fasting. A regular enema is just sort of a lower intestinal wash. Possibly a very low fiber - high digestible - raw fat based diet with lots of eggs (and other primal stuff - hint) is likely the best way to keep things moving and increase overall health so these things can repair itself, but it seems only when its mostly empty can it really reshape itself super well.

I know of a guy who supposedly would not change his SWD but got so into the hydrotherapy that he taught himself how to do it and did them so regularly that it even freaked out the practitioners who are usually pretty obsessive about it themselves. Anyway, within a few years not only did he correct alot of his intestinal stuff but supposedly noticeably shifted his whole internal chemistry and blood profile. I don't recommend that of course but its interesting.
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Thank you that is great advice!!!

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Health / Re: Best form of paleo for bowel health?
« on: April 08, 2011, 07:20:52 am »



 
He prescribed Glycolax for me. I knew that was powerful stuff that cleaned people out before undergoing colonoscopies, so I asked him, "Is this stuff really safe to take every day?" and he said yes and assured me that there were "no side effects" with it.

Yup, mine gave me Lactulose - awful cramping and the runs.. 



sell the exact same ingredients as a cheap laxative but just give it a fancy name and a lot of advertising and convince people there's something special about it. Instead of calling what comes out shit, you call it "toxins" or "poisons", so people feel like they're getting their money's worth instead of getting reamed. When I compared the ingredients list on cheap, generic products and saw that they were nearly or even exactly the same as some of the fancy-sounding expensive products, I realized that these marketers are brilliant. Completely lacking in ethics, but brilliant.
HAHA  ;D
Yes I agree with everything in that quote. 
Wanting to rebuild and gain intestinal health may not be happening on cleanses, it just helps you "move some things out."   The colon therapist i saw did recommend to me "intestinal Soothe and build" from  Natures Sunshine. 

You know if you don't feel/notice a difference using a product THEN it's not working!  However i don't think i mentioned this on the board - i have used 2 products that i believe come from reputable companies.  I noticed it working within a day or two. " ALoe Life ALoe Vera Gold".  Body Ecology "Vitality Greens" I was and still am pretty sold on Body Ecology Products, i use to moderate there yahoo group  ;)


Hmm, not sure how fair or sporting it is to expect other people to do the work of providing you with info if you're not willing to put much time into your own searching or reciprocate, and what about the saying "The more you give, the more you will receive"? ;) On the other hand, it's good not to sit too long, as exercise can help the bowels some.
No worries I defiantly do my work and will put in what i can, I'm still learning this lifestyle which i need to be part of.   i just have not been there with this diet/lifestyle yet (still trying to figure somethings out on it).   What i was thinking is this site has so much info and interaction, i could not keep up.  To someone who was a veagn most of her life - i would have to sit at the computer till on end reading all that is here, which is a very good thing I just can't do ti with having little ones at home.  It is a great group and I am really excited about being part of it. 

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Health / Re: Best form of paleo for bowel health?
« on: April 07, 2011, 03:13:10 am »
Sorry - not sure how to highlight the quotes yet -\
i'll get there  :)

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Health / Re: Best form of paleo for bowel health?
« on: April 07, 2011, 03:08:25 am »
OK, my best guess is he doesn't want you to be dependent on sennoside laxatives.

Have you done any cleanses (like renew life's, garden of life,  etc...) before you dove into this diet or when you were already on this diet?  I ask b/c I really would like to have a good terrain when i start this "completely" -i have been soooo dependent on fiber  :(
I bet my intestines are so stretched it will take awhile to get back to the right size. 
*I may start this as a topic in the discussion board if you or anyone does not have any advise on this one.  I would really like to see what has worked for people and b/c you also have redundant colon you know sensitivity to products.

I hadn't heard this claim before. What colonic did you use and how is it supposed to improve the colon muscle tone?

"Colon Irrigation" of warm water for about one hour.  it really works your muscles, I have been sore in the tummy like i had a great ab workout! 
You really just lay there and let your body allow the water in and when it feels it needs to release your muscles will contract and push it out (on its own - no straining  ;D)
I mainly noticed that after i did sessions of colonics i did not have to strain (until i ate bad foods or hard to digest fibers again and they just clogged me back up over time).  I personally should do it 2 times a year with my colon issues but it would be much more beneficial to get it done 1 time every couple of months.  The therapist told me it will help loosen the kinks/twist in the colon even though the MD said this was how my colon formed in the womb and only surgery will correct this. 
Yeah, a gastroenterologist asked me if I eat a lot of veggies because he said that can cause redundant colon (as can long-term chronic constipation).
REALLY!!!!!  Man i wish i would have known this or had a doctor like yours! 
But cooked veggies get absorbed right? 
I read that fiber is so broken down with cooked veggies you don't have to worry about BM's, not sure if that is true though  ???

I rarely promote a single brand of anything, but the only raw fermented honey I know of is at http://www.reallyrawhoney.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=RRH&Category_Code=FRRH.

Out of stock but i will watch the site for more, does that help with the colon too?  I don't do honey b/c of sugar, i use stevia but if this fermented honey will help colon issues i am going to give it a try!

There's not a lot on it. This forum is probably the second best source after AV's rather eccentric books. :) BTW, I don't endorse everything that AV or any other guru says and advise folks to think, research, investigate and experiment themselves.
You mentioned having the redundant colon so i pay attention when i see your name on topics that address this but i just don't have the time to read much either - don't like sitting down long enough.

alycia

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Health / Re: Best form of paleo for bowel health?
« on: April 05, 2011, 11:52:39 pm »
Oh i am sorry  :(, i did not come out and directly answer that one - it is a benign condition.  He really did not even go into that, he just said "Stop It!."  So I did.  It was rough though, nadda would make me go.  That is why i went to get colonics to help strengthen those muscles back up and it really did help.    Also why I went on the high raw vegan diet and that helped too.  BUT i am learning that much fiber, even fruits and veg, is just too much for the colon to take long term.

I've used the fermented cod liver and butter oil, but have not seen the honey, i will need to check that one out!  Or are you fermenting it yourself and know where i can find the recipe? 

I am going to need to read up on this type of diet and transitioning - all i have read is AV's book.
I'll look for past post from you and others on making this transition and keep my personal issues in mind  ;D.  I'm definitely going to try and find some stories you have shared on "freaking people out" :o  and idea's you have passed along in other threads.

Thank you Phil!! You have been a huge help getting me one step further in this journey :)

alycia

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Health / Re: Best form of paleo for bowel health?
« on: April 05, 2011, 10:25:20 am »
Wow, that is great you already have many of  the resources i know of working for you and some that don't so much, I'm sorry.  At least you have the diet that works, that's the main thing.

I'm bummed that N.C. probiotic did not work for you, it was the best i have used thus far but i know there are much better ones available somewhere, just not sure what they are yet.  

About the villi -it was blackened and according to the doctor it was directly related to the stimulant laxative. having damaged the villi also lead to malabsorption of nutrients in the intestines.  All around not good and not worth being regular if it was killing the villi and not absorbing the nutrients from the food and supplements i put so much into.  

Yes i do sometimes have problems with vit. C - gives you the runs if you have too much.  Cal/Mag -  I always take more magnesium than calcium to prevent constipation effects of calcium.  If that was all i needed to do i would not be searching for more info on this  -\
 
Fats - raw vegan world and my own experience (but I was also eating cooked meats on my low carb/high fat days)  I have never cut out veggies to the degree many do here so this is something i am working on.  But if it will help with the bowels I will cut out veg really soon  :D

Please keep me posted on any thing that works for you, you seem to be way ahead of me on making headway in this department!!

Alycia

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Health / Re: Best form of paleo for bowel health?
« on: April 05, 2011, 06:30:55 am »
Paleo Phil -
About the cavy - that means cavity right?  Sorry i am new to this forum so don't know lingo here at all -\
I have had issues in the mouth, mainly from grinding my teeth at night but one source that has really really helped me with everything dealing with the mouth is the book "Cure Tooth Decay"
Highly recommend that book for anyone who has teeth issues!  He also has a website that is very helpful:
http://www.curetoothdecay.com/
Kudos' to you to have a cavity for that long without pain!  According to that book it would be b/c of this diet you do, it actually is the diet he recommends for tooth health (Weston A Price or AV's). 
When i had a cavity that started to hurt I did "oil Pulling" really helped!
He walks you thru how to heal cavities wihtout getting drilled and filled  ;D

ABout the senna  - yes he did say 6 months to 1 year after i am completely off it my villa will be healthy again. It's been several years since i stopped it and I have done colonics to strengthen those muscles again and i think it helped. 

The probiotic i did notice help me is "New Chapter's - colon probiotic" 

Can I ask a question - will high fat make me fat?  That will up my calories a LOT  and being a girl who once was overweight on more fats than i eat now i am hessitant to take that route  ???


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Health / Re: Best form of paleo for bowel health?
« on: April 04, 2011, 11:42:32 pm »
Thank you guys, this does help me get a better idea. 

Paleo Phil - I will check out that site :-) Thank you!
So if I get this right, it's the "softness" of the food (even cooked veg?) and easy "digestibility/food combing" that is key on AV's diet to have a regularity?

 Also i got the idea it's really about fat more so than protein and fruits for reguarlity?    I know he is not a proponent of veg unless juiced ( i have his recipe book  ;)).

How about raw dairy, like cheese?  I always thought it constipated me but maybe putting it on raw veggies was not the best way to eat it.

Just some info that may be helpful -
Phil - After using cascara sengrada in the past (that gave me my first regular BM's EVER) i developed "melanosis Coli"  that is also when i  was diagnosed with "Torturous Redundant Colon" in that colonscopy.  I am just sharing that with you b/c the doctor warned me that senna will do the same thing to the colon :(
What i have found to be very helpful, in a way to avoid laxatives, was to take Vitamin C or Cal/Mag.   

I also read a book online called "Fiber Menace"
http://www.fibermenace.com/fibermenace/about_fm.html
and it really got me to lower fiber foods (even though they gave me better BM's  :()
In that book he notes how 1 pound of beef equals to 5 grams of stool, that's refreshing b/c i would think after consuming that weight of food you would have more waste product but apparently it all gets absorbed.  Most stool should be bacteria anyways from what i read, so i have been making kefir water and coconut kefir (not sure if it helps though ???).


 
   

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Health / Best form of paleo for bowel health?
« on: April 04, 2011, 10:04:52 am »
HI, I am new girl here and rather confused on what form of paleo i need to try in order to improve my bowel health?  I've been raw for 5 years now, mainly vegetarian with a little raw meat here and there.  I am thinking fiber may not be the best thing in the world for "proper" colon health anymore?  

which Paleo plan has everyone found to work best to make bathroom time easy and quick?  
What foods are easiest to pass or get fully absorbed by the body so you don't need to have many BM's?  

I was thinking that maybe a diet high or exclusively of foods that most if not all is absorbed by the body, is that even possible?  
I think most if not all meat and fats are absorbed right?  and fruits too?  but all veggies have fiber that is not digested so that may put strain on the colon?  Just my assumptions so if i am wrong or you have any insight on this - I really want to know :-)

I have a medical condition called "tortured redundant colon" meaning i have many twists/knots in my colon that it takes a long time to complete a bowel movement which leads to constipation, straining, hemorrhoids etc...  

insight on diet plans?

thank you!!
Aly


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