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alycia
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I'm curios because I have the feeling that my vlc meat based diet leads to some buildup in my gi tract. From time to time I feel the desire to eat 2.478 kg of papayas to 'clean out' the whole tube. |
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I switched to mostly fruits ~ 8 months later just because the diet I was doing wasn't working calorically. I always eliminated fine on a fruit diet ( I had already done quite a few of these treatments). Eventually I ditched doing the treatments and I seemed to thrive in some ways and then after a year or so I really got hit hard and quick. Personally I believe had I continued doing them I wouldn't have been stewing in as much waste and wouldn't have crashed as bad as I did. Without fat in particular there doesn't seem to be much a vehicle for one to remove waste stirred up with the fruits. I went back and did a bunch ~ when I started integrating animal stuff in my diet
KD - what is your diet??
I'm guessing raw lowcarb not much fruit and veg?
I just started on this forum, not familiar with you yet ,
I also was raw vegan for awhile - then looked into Wai diet for bowel reasons but read so much conflicting things about it. It seems like it may NOT be worth the expense all that fruit sugar can take on ones body and teeth.
Were you on the 80/10/10 diet in your high fruit days. I have experimented with that and really had decent BM's on it but you know i think we need some meat and eggs to thrive!
I also think certain foods are more helpful then others with not all diets under LC umbrella being great for bowel health.
Ok so what food is not helpful? I want to make sure i don't over do it b/c i don't see myself doing a water fast - more reasons than i need to get into here but i just am not in the place to do one
Basically my main point was if someone is looking to actually re-shape their intestines (and not necessarily cleanse debris from the bowel) filling it with water or attempting to let it reform during fasting seem to be the major assets. The former just seems more safe to me for peoples whose bowels aren't actually moving the stuff around on the fast.
How about really simple foods vita-mixed - if one can not fast and does not have a juicer, would this be just as good as juicing fast?
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I have been ZC for 2 years. I'm 5'4", 108 lbs., 15% bodyfat (for a woman). I'm very lean.
I count calories. It is fun. I do not EVER trust appetite, and I have zero interest in listening to my body. Try using fitday.
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I'm pretty sure she's talking about colon hydrotherapy (hopefully gravity based). If anyone can hold an enema for an hour I will shake their hand and give them 20 bucks.
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yes that is what i meant. I don't think it is possible to hold water that long
http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/general-discussion/colon-cleanse/msg52988/#msg52988
There seems to be only two ways to really put a serious dent in solving intestinal kinks and that is the above or hardcore water fasting. A regular enema is just sort of a lower intestinal wash. Possibly a very low fiber - high digestible - raw fat based diet with lots of eggs (and other primal stuff - hint) is likely the best way to keep things moving and increase overall health so these things can repair itself, but it seems only when its mostly empty can it really reshape itself super well.
I know of a guy who supposedly would not change his SWD but got so into the hydrotherapy that he taught himself how to do it and did them so regularly that it even freaked out the practitioners who are usually pretty obsessive about it themselves. Anyway, within a few years not only did he correct alot of his intestinal stuff but supposedly noticeably shifted his whole internal chemistry and blood profile. I don't recommend that of course but its interesting.
He prescribed Glycolax for me. I knew that was powerful stuff that cleaned people out before undergoing colonoscopies, so I asked him, "Is this stuff really safe to take every day?" and he said yes and assured me that there were "no side effects" with it.
Yup, mine gave me Lactulose - awful cramping and the runs..HAHA
sell the exact same ingredients as a cheap laxative but just give it a fancy name and a lot of advertising and convince people there's something special about it. Instead of calling what comes out shit, you call it "toxins" or "poisons", so people feel like they're getting their money's worth instead of getting reamed. When I compared the ingredients list on cheap, generic products and saw that they were nearly or even exactly the same as some of the fancy-sounding expensive products, I realized that these marketers are brilliant. Completely lacking in ethics, but brilliant.
Yes I agree with everything in that quote.
Wanting to rebuild and gain intestinal health may not be happening on cleanses, it just helps you "move some things out." The colon therapist i saw did recommend to me "intestinal Soothe and build" from Natures Sunshine.
You know if you don't feel/notice a difference using a product THEN it's not working! However i don't think i mentioned this on the board - i have used 2 products that i believe come from reputable companies. I noticed it working within a day or two. " ALoe Life ALoe Vera Gold". Body Ecology "Vitality Greens" I was and still am pretty sold on Body Ecology Products, i use to moderate there yahoo groupNo worries I defiantly do my work and will put in what i can, I'm still learning this lifestyle which i need to be part of. i just have not been there with this diet/lifestyle yet (still trying to figure somethings out on it). What i was thinking is this site has so much info and interaction, i could not keep up. To someone who was a veagn most of her life - i would have to sit at the computer till on end reading all that is here, which is a very good thing I just can't do ti with having little ones at home. It is a great group and I am really excited about being part of it.
Hmm, not sure how fair or sporting it is to expect other people to do the work of providing you with info if you're not willing to put much time into your own searching or reciprocate, and what about the saying "The more you give, the more you will receive"? On the other hand, it's good not to sit too long, as exercise can help the bowels some.
OK, my best guess is he doesn't want you to be dependent on sennoside laxatives.
Have you done any cleanses (like renew life's, garden of life, etc...) before you dove into this diet or when you were already on this diet? I ask b/c I really would like to have a good terrain when i start this "completely" -i have been soooo dependent on fiber
I bet my intestines are so stretched it will take awhile to get back to the right size.
*I may start this as a topic in the discussion board if you or anyone does not have any advise on this one. I would really like to see what has worked for people and b/c you also have redundant colon you know sensitivity to products.
I hadn't heard this claim before. What colonic did you use and how is it supposed to improve the colon muscle tone?
"Colon Irrigation" of warm water for about one hour. it really works your muscles, I have been sore in the tummy like i had a great ab workout!
You really just lay there and let your body allow the water in and when it feels it needs to release your muscles will contract and push it out (on its own - no straining )
I mainly noticed that after i did sessions of colonics i did not have to strain (until i ate bad foods or hard to digest fibers again and they just clogged me back up over time). I personally should do it 2 times a year with my colon issues but it would be much more beneficial to get it done 1 time every couple of months. The therapist told me it will help loosen the kinks/twist in the colon even though the MD said this was how my colon formed in the womb and only surgery will correct this.
Yeah, a gastroenterologist asked me if I eat a lot of veggies because he said that can cause redundant colon (as can long-term chronic constipation).
REALLY!!!!! Man i wish i would have known this or had a doctor like yours!
But cooked veggies get absorbed right?
I read that fiber is so broken down with cooked veggies you don't have to worry about BM's, not sure if that is true though
I rarely promote a single brand of anything, but the only raw fermented honey I know of is at http://www.reallyrawhoney.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=RRH&Category_Code=FRRH.
Out of stock but i will watch the site for more, does that help with the colon too? I don't do honey b/c of sugar, i use stevia but if this fermented honey will help colon issues i am going to give it a try!
There's not a lot on it. This forum is probably the second best source after AV's rather eccentric books. BTW, I don't endorse everything that AV or any other guru says and advise folks to think, research, investigate and experiment themselves.
You mentioned having the redundant colon so i pay attention when i see your name on topics that address this but i just don't have the time to read much either - don't like sitting down long enough.
alycia