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Offline raw-al

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Fate of Man
« on: August 09, 2011, 11:12:05 pm »
I know this is a bit of a conspiracy theory question and there is no definitive answer however.... another thread made me think of the population of the earth which is growing at stupendous rates. If looked at it from a historical perspective, it took a very long time for 1 million people to inhabit the earth and a considerably less period of time to reach a billion and then almost a relative heartbeat to reach the current 6.7 Billion http://www.google.ca/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=sp_pop_totl&tdim=true&dl=en&hl=en&q=earth+population#ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=sp_pop_totl&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=country&ifdim=country&tdim=true&hl=en&dl=en

Some people theorize that at the projected pop. growth,   
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_growth
the earth will be "knee deep"  ;D in humans and their associated effluent, in a relatively speaking short period of time. Not to mention the issue of food production.

Any thoughts?
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Al

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Re: Fate of Man
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2011, 11:31:11 pm »
I've been at this thing for many years already... here goes:
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Fertility rates around the world are dropping.

Take the time to study the population pyramids and the math behind them.

See countries like Russia and Japan in absolute population decline.

See how steep fertility rates are declining per country.

The world has been saved by contraceptive evangelism.

AKA the US Empire's NSSM 200 ( google this )



http://www.amazon.com/Empty-Cradle-Birthrates-Threaten-Prosperity/dp/0465050506

The Empty Cradle: How Falling Birthrates Threaten World Prosperity And What To Do About It

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Re: Fate of Man
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2011, 11:32:59 pm »
Human fate in the next 200 years may well be like the roman civilization fate with birth dearth and population decline from 0 to 200 AD.

Look up that historical fact.

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NSSM 200 and the evangelization of contraception brainwashing until family tree obliteration is there for all who want to see it.

I've seen it and "they" are not taking my blood line away from me.  So I consciously rebelled.  I want to live.  Not just for myself in my time, but for my progeny, my descendants.

And this is why I'm into healing people... for free... because it's important.  Everyone deserves to be healthy from my goody goody point of view.

But the contraceptive evangelists aka depopulation imperialists don't want my kind of charity.  

Just so happens raw paleo diet and lifestyle is an integral part of the healing, living, thriving process.

If the powers that be depopulation masters ever realized how powerful our little forum, website, ideas are, they'd want to shut us down.

If I weren't so pro-life, I would not want to share this raw paleo diet knowledge and life style.  Why am I doing network admin duties for free? Why are other moderators doing this service for free?  Maybe this knowledge is important enough, the holy grail of health humans have been searching for all along.  We are the guardians of this knowledge.

Think of all the people we are saving and have saved and have allowed to reproduce... oh how horrid... the depopulation masters might think.

Why establishment medicine's health concepts are all upside down, wrong and detrimental to people's health?  Follow the depopulation agenda.

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Re: Fate of Man
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2011, 12:07:14 am »
Human population is constrained by its food supply. We have 7 billion people on earth because that's how many we can feed. If we could feed more, birth rates and death rates would adjust the rate of growth to make sure all those excess calories were eaten by someone.

My readings and research suggest to me that we are nearing constraints on food production, and as we pass peak global energy production then food production will go down (we produce so much food because we subsidize the agricultural system with fossil energy inputs). As global energy production goes down, food production will go down, and human population will have no choice but to follow.

So if I'm right and we're near the peak of energy and food production, then we're also near the peak of human population. We will never be knee-deep in humans and their associated effluent; populations won't continue rising long enough for us to reach that point. We will instead get to watch human population reach its peak and then fall into decline as we lose our ability to produce food at current levels.

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Re: Fate of Man
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2011, 02:23:54 am »
I've been at this thing for many years already... here goes:
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Fertility rates around the world are dropping.

Take the time to study the population pyramids and the math behind them.

See countries like Russia and Japan in absolute population decline.

See how steep fertility rates are declining per country.

The world has been saved by contraceptive evangelism.

AKA the US Empire's NSSM 200 ( google this )



http://www.amazon.com/Empty-Cradle-Birthrates-Threaten-Prosperity/dp/0465050506

The Empty Cradle: How Falling Birthrates Threaten World Prosperity And What To Do About It

Written in 2004
(7 years ago)

I'll guide you to a new mathematical, statistical realization.


I've ordered the book at the library. Thanks!
Cheers
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Re: Fate of Man
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2011, 04:49:37 am »
Human population is constrained by its food supply. We have 7 billion people on earth because that's how many we can feed. If we could feed more, birth rates and death rates would adjust the rate of growth to make sure all those excess calories were eaten by someone.

My readings and research suggest to me that we are nearing constraints on food production, and as we pass peak global energy production then food production will go down (we produce so much food because we subsidize the agricultural system with fossil energy inputs). As global energy production goes down, food production will go down, and human population will have no choice but to follow.

So if I'm right and we're near the peak of energy and food production, then we're also near the peak of human population. We will never be knee-deep in humans and their associated effluent; populations won't continue rising long enough for us to reach that point. We will instead get to watch human population reach its peak and then fall into decline as we lose our ability to produce food at current levels.

Exactly. See:
http://www.mnforsustain.org/oil_peaking_of_world_oil_production_study_hirsch.htm
http://www.oilcrisis.com/
http://www.odac-info.org/ 
http://www.theoildrum.com/
http://www.wolfatthedoor.org.uk/
http://www.drydipstick.com/
http://www.beyondpeak.com/jumppage-beyondpeak.html
Cause and effect are distant in time and space in complex systems, while at the same time there’s a tendency to look for causes near the events sought to be explained. Time delays in feedback in systems result in the condition where the long-run response of a system to an action is often different from its short-run response. — Ronald J. Ziegler

 

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