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Title: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: raw-al on June 17, 2012, 05:49:22 am
Amybody try it?
What did you find?
Was it useful?
What is bad/good about it?
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: goodsamaritan on June 17, 2012, 05:53:42 am
I use 50 / 50 common drug store hydrogen peroxide and water in ears to clean out hardened ear wax after it has been softened with olive oil.

Also use that mixture in ears for people with soar throat or colds.

Can also be used as mouth wash.

Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: Dorothy on June 17, 2012, 07:33:06 am
I only get food grade hydrogen peroxide because the store bought stuff has some  nasty chemicals added. I dilute it properly and mix it with vinegar to make a great thing to dehydrate the ears of my dogs and my husband no longer gets ear infections. I use it in the bath (after getting out the chlorine). I sanitize things with it. I've used it in bird's water - but find colloidal silver to be better. I go back and forth between the two for all things bad bacterial. It has also been used as a cancer cure so I used to soak my mother's feet in it. If using as a cancer cure it can be taken internally but not while having dairy products.

It's one of the most useful things out there. Just don't put it on large open wounds. Small cuts it's wonderful for. It a premier sanitizing agent that is non-toxic - even good.

People even use it for pools and whirlpools instead of chlorine.
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: cherimoya_kid on June 17, 2012, 12:19:42 pm
It's good for detoxing heavy metals.
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: raw-al on June 27, 2012, 10:10:09 pm
Here is the therapy description. I read about it in a book called "The One Minute Cure".

I stumbled on it, out of curiosity and my wife is trying it. Her annual 'Allergy fest' was well under way and it instantly stopped. A whole host of other issues seem to be falling away like leaves in the autumn.

Weirdly she seems to find she is more alert, sees better, and it seems to be reducing some age related issues which I cannot describe here, as it would be dangerous for my health.  ;D ;D ;D wink wink.

Everyone seems to have different reactions and you have to just grin and bear when you have a 'healing crisis'.

I will be trying it next week, as I cannot start yet.

BTW I am talking about taking it internally as per the instructions in the post. The instructions are exact and you should read them  a few times to get it right although it is not 'rocket science'.

http://educate-yourself.org/cancer/benefitsofhydrogenperozide17jul03.shtml (http://educate-yourself.org/cancer/benefitsofhydrogenperozide17jul03.shtml)
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: Dorothy on June 27, 2012, 10:29:50 pm
I'm going to read the link you posted Al - but I just wanted to add here before anyone else tries taking h202 internally:
I remember form my alternative cancer therapy research years that it is dangerous to take it internally along with the Budwig cure. Before taking milk products and h202 make sure to research this completely! There is some kind of chemical reaction that could be very dangerous.

Since I'm no longer on dairy Al and the incline bed therapy has been such a hit with me I might try this now to experiment with it. I've always been curious about it since The Birdman of Alcatraz cured all his birds with it! Since the Budwig diet was one of the first therapies we used around here and dairy was so much a part of our diet for the last years the bottle of food grade h202 got pushed to the back of the pile.

I used to soak my Mom's feet in it though and I know a man that cured his wife's brain cancer using h202 in baths.

Interesting to say the least. I've never thought about taking it as a healthy person before and what it might do. Thanks for bringing it up.
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: DopeDivinity on July 03, 2012, 03:54:31 am
I'm interested in trying this. I've read that you could react pretty negatively because the peroxide kills pathogenic bacteria and makes them release their toxins, thus making you feel like shit. Uhh... whatever it takes to eventually feel good again.
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: raw-al on July 03, 2012, 07:40:53 pm
Dorothy,
A friend uses HP in his homing pigeons water.

My wife had a reaction to the HP for a number of days but it went away.
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: Dorothy on July 04, 2012, 10:31:00 pm
Are you doing any h202 Al with your wife? How has it affected you?

I haven't started yet. I had a tooth problem though so put some in the water in my water pik. Took care of it almost instantly.

I've been putting colloidal silver in my chickens' water but next time I might try a little h202 instead for awhile - switching them back and forth.
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: raw-al on July 05, 2012, 02:05:55 am
Long story but I will start in about a month maybe a month and a half. For her it is allergy season and it is very effective for that.

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Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: Dorothy on July 05, 2012, 02:34:15 am
Is it really effective with allergies? Wow, that's great to know. Brian's allergies are fabulously better since he started to take Vitamin D as per Cherimoya's suggestion. Austin is considered the allergy capital of the country (or so others here call it so) - which made us feel really dumb in not researching that before moving here. At one point we thought we would have to move because he was so miserable. But now he's so much better that we can stay - and if we could wipe out allergies altogether he would be better off than he has been since he was 4 years old!

That's it - I'm trying it to see what it does to me. Maybe we should start it at the same time you and I Al. That would be kinda of fun in a way no?
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: DopeDivinity on July 05, 2012, 11:11:31 am
I just read that link that was posted... it definitely sounds like good stuff. I often feel DeOxygenated... my head particularly feels that way right now. It feels like theres a Cloud-of-Cancer in there.

I am going to my local HealthFood Store tomorrow and checking out their hydrogen peroxide. Assuming its reasonably priced, I will probably buy a bottle and get started immediately. I'm always making all kinds of changes in my regimen, but this sounds nice'n'simple and effective, and hopefully I'll be able to tell how it is affecting me.


Here I will also contribute a quote from Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride, regarding Hydrogen Peroxide. I have been somewhat following her nutritional protocol (The GAPS Diet) and think she gives good advice.

"Question: Some people advise the use of hydrogen peroxide to get rid of the bad gut flora. Would that be a good idea? Could it help GAPS patients?
Natasha: The short answer is yes. However, due to taste and immediate die-off it is far from easy to take hydrogen peroxide (H2O2), and in my experience vast majority of people, having tried it, simply cannot do it. You need 35% food grade H2O2, which you can get in some health food stores. It is recommended that you start from a few drops per glass of water on an empty stomach once or twice daily, and gradually increase the concentration by adding one more drop at a time. Once consumed H2O2 breaks into water and free oxygen, which is considered to be the most deadly agent on this planet for any microbe. People with GERD, reflux and other stomach problems may find it helpful to take H2O2 on an empty stomach, because their problems are largely due to yeast overgrowth in the
stomach. After initial die-off, as the stomach becomes more sterile, the symptoms may clear. It is essential to use only food grade H2O2, as other preparations may have chemicals added to stabilise it. I don’t routinely recommend hydrogen peroxide, as it is quite harsh and can cause a very serious die-off reaction."

As me and my brother have been known to say... bring on the die-off. And then it actually happens and its like OH MY GOD THIS SUCKS FUCK YOU GOOOOD
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: Dorothy on July 05, 2012, 11:32:03 am
DD - please by God go slow! Herxheimer reactions can be deadly or make you so sick that it negates the benefits.

I'm interested in possibly doing h202 with dmso so it by-passes my digestive system and then you taste nothing. I haven't researched it enough yet though.
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: DopeDivinity on July 05, 2012, 11:54:32 am
I am going to go at the rate suggested in the link. And I will try to make this as "structured" as possible, perhaps document my progress somehow, so I have context of whats going on. It can be easy to become flustered and lose sight of your goals... I've learned this from trying to Fast...
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: Dorothy on July 05, 2012, 12:13:30 pm
Yeah - fasting will teach one faster than anything!

I would go slower than the link. If I were to do it I would start with only one drop and keep that up for awhile.

Do you really feel like you have a cloud of cancer in your head or is that just a metaphor? That's a pretty big thing to think. I guess if you are having those kinds of feelings you might have more need to get things handled faster. For me, usually the slower I do things the better. Baby steps seem to get me where I want to go faster because if I freak out my body I just end up back at square one or even before square one unable to get back up on the board again. It's one of the hardest lessons I've had to learn and I still have to. I naturally want to jump in for the drama and big changes - it's part of me that I have been working with constantly for so long it feels like lifetimes. It takes much more will and strength for me not to just jump into things with both feet and to do things carefully and slowly instead.

Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: DopeDivinity on July 06, 2012, 07:47:29 am
Cloud of Cancer is a way I can explain it, though I really couldn't tell you what Cancer in the head feels like and if its what I have going on. Right now it feels gentler... there is a presence in my head but it is not irritating. It flares up more intensely in different circumstances. It is provoked by certain foods and negative emotions, and certainly other things.

I got a bottle of 8% Hydrogen Peroxide, however it is Food Grade. I'm drinking a glass with 12 drops in it, which equates rather closely to the recommendation in the guide, given that in the guide they are telling you to use 35%.
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: Dorothy on July 06, 2012, 08:44:32 am
I had the kind of brain today necessary to sit down and read the link Al posted. I am going to start tomorrow morning - but I will start with only 1 drop of 3% 1x a dat. I have lots of time to go nice and slow. I'd like to avoid any noticeable detox entirely.

I'm also going to start giving my plants hydrogen peroxide like suggested in the article. One of the great things about growing your own food is that you get to do it right - even if it does take a lot of effort. Great mineral rich soil with oxygen-rich water. I do need to start capturing rain water though. It's not great having to use water from the city without purification.

One step at a time!

When did you start DD and how did it taste and make you feel? Notice anything?
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: jessica on July 06, 2012, 09:16:09 am
dopedivine do you feel deoxygenated in  your blood as well? or just your head? do you ever do breathing exercises?
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: PaleoPhil on July 06, 2012, 09:57:31 am
You don't have to rely on feelings. One thing Dorothy tipped me off about some time ago was that you can check your blood oxygenation level pretty easily with a device that's not too terribly expensive--a pulse oximeter http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=pulse+oximeter. (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=pulse+oximeter.) They are used in hospitals, and with one I found that my blood oxygen levels are excellent--usually 98%, sometimes 99%. Thanks raw Paleo diet, and thanks Dorothy! My guess is that most folks on raw Paleo diets probably have excellent blood oxygen levels, but if you want to check, you can do it with a pulse oximeter.
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: raw-al on July 06, 2012, 10:00:24 am
You don't have to rely on feelings. One thing Dorothy tipped me off about some time ago was that you can check your blood oxygenation level pretty easily with a device that's not too terribly expensive--a pulse oximeter http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=pulse+oximeter. (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=pulse+oximeter.) They are used in hospitals, and with one I found that my blood oxygen levels are excellent--usually 98%, sometimes 99%. Thanks raw Paleo diet, and thanks Dorothy!

Does it determine the levels without drawing blood.

What could you tell from this. In other words if your blood oxygenation is lower what is the problem?
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: Dorothy on July 06, 2012, 10:01:45 am
You don't have to rely on feelings. One thing Dorothy tipped me off about some time ago was that you can check your blood oxygenation level pretty easily with a device that's not too terribly expensive--a pulse oximeter http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=pulse+oximeter. (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=pulse+oximeter.) They are used in hospitals, and with one I found that my blood oxygen levels are excellent--usually 98%, sometimes 99%. Thanks raw Paleo diet, and thanks Dorothy!

We have one Phil! It's what we use to watch Brian's heart skip beats with the little bar that expands with each beat. They are fun and useful little devices. My Oxygen levels are almost always 99% and Brian's are 98 - 99% - the funny thing was when his heart was missing beats at one point it got to 100%! I didn't know whether to be jealous or not. :) Even with these levels I still wonder if the h202 wouldn't be helpful. The meter doesn't have much further to go - lol - but maybe my feelings will still be better? We'll see.
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: Dorothy on July 06, 2012, 10:02:57 am
Does it determine the levels without drawing blood.

What could you tell from this. In other words if your blood oxygenation is lower what is the problem?

No blood involved. They just go on your finger.  I haven't a clue how they work - a miracle of modern science is as far as I've been able to figure. ;)

They use them in hospitals to determine if someone needs to be hooked up to one of those  little oxygen tubes that put oxygen near your nose to breath in. If your number is too low you aren't getting enough oxygen in your blood and action has to be taken. I got it for my Mom when concerned whether her oxygen levels were high enough. Hers were lower than ours of course - but not by that much.
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: PaleoPhil on July 06, 2012, 10:03:42 am
Does it determine the levels without drawing blood.
Yes, you just put your finger in it for a bit and wait for the readout.

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What could you tell from this. In other words if your blood oxygenation is lower what is the problem?
It tells you what your blood oxygen level is, not what the problem is. If it's low, you would have to figure that out. The good thing about the meter is, if your level is low, you can test various things and see what results they produce. I'll bet you score well on it, though, if you try it. My parents just eat a semi-Paleo cooked diet and they score 98% on it, so you don't even have to be particularly strict to score well.
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: Dorothy on July 06, 2012, 10:08:09 am
You don't have to be strict at all cuz most basically healthy (not sick) people will be at least 98% I've discovered - by playing around with it a lot. It's battery operated so I would put it on everyone's finger at the hospitals for fun.
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: PaleoPhil on July 06, 2012, 10:08:49 am
We have one Phil!
Yes, I know, you're the one who motivated me to buy one! LOL

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It's what we use to watch Brian's heart skip beats with the little bar that expands with each beat. They are fun and useful little devices. My Oxygen levels are almost always 99%
Cool, you're doing slightly better than me. What's your secret?

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and Brian's are 98 - 99% - the funny thing was when his heart was missing beats at one point it got to 100%! I didn't know whether to be jealous or not. :) Even with these levels I still wonder if the h202 wouldn't be helpful.
I suspect that he's healthier than the average person. The connective tissue damage that causes MVP doesn't heal overnight. If I were him, I'd eat raw Paleo, or mostly raw Paleo, find which foods I fare best on, and focus on enjoying life rather than be overly concerned about 98 vs 99-100% readings on the pulse oximeter. On the other hand, if you find which foods get you or Brian to the 99-100% level, that could be interesting. Then I could test it myself, though I'd have to dig the device out again. LOL
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: PaleoPhil on July 06, 2012, 10:10:22 am
most basically healthy (not sick) people will be at least 98% I've discovered -
Yup, that's what I've found too. Most of the people who score significantly lower seem to be smokers and people with lung damage and/or cancer, from what I've seen, though there's not a lot of info available on it.
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: Dorothy on July 06, 2012, 12:08:17 pm
Cool, you're doing slightly better than me. What's your secret?

I think it was the martial arts and rolfing. When I was young I was told that to breath correctly I had to breath from my abdomen by my martial arts teacher and practiced it until I thought I could do it superbly but later a rolfer told me that I didn't breath much into my upper body - just my abdomen! Eeks - you mean THAT was wrong? These two things stuck with me and I practiced for years breathing in different ways throughout the day. I have thought about breath a lot and I think that's why I gave such import to how Brian breathes. 

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I suspect that he's healthier than the average person. The connective tissue damage that causes MVP doesn't heal overnight. If I were him, I'd eat raw Paleo, or mostly raw Paleo, find which foods I fare best on, and focus on enjoying life rather than be overly concerned about 98 vs 99-100% readings on the pulse oximeter. On the other hand, if you find which foods get you or Brian to the 99-100% level, that could be interesting. Then I could test it myself, though I'd have to dig the device out again. LOL

In a lot of ways Brian has always seemed healthier than most people, but lately he has started almost to look and act more his age - which totally freaks me out. Being in the 60's perhaps it's more scary when things go wrong? I'm not concerned at all about the readings because I'm not sure once you get to a basic amount of oxidation it's very sensitive or useful. I really don't know that even if I had 100% readings that it wouldn't mean that h202 or pranayama wouldn't still be beneficial. That device is based upon finding serious problems - it's not based upon people that are looking to live at the levels we are Phil. If the h202 gets me to 100% consistently that would at least be interesting. I wonder if Brian's connective tissue issues have an oxygen or toxin component to them. He was born prematurely and had asthma as a child and most of his life really until we figured that one out. I've read many times that the oxygenation of the air has been on a steady decrease for a long time. I also live in a city which probably has less oxygen and I do dramatically less exercise and therefore deep breathing than I would if leading a truly natural life. I think I just want us to be on the same playing field as our (superior in so many ways) ancestors were. I'm wondering if h202 could be a tool for that.

These little tools to help imitate a more natural lifestyle on a more natural planet obviously are inferior to the real thing, but I'll take what I can get and definitely will take anything I can get to help Brian. ;)

I like being able to try things on me first. I'm so naturally curious that I really can't help myself anyway :) and then can report what happens to an already healthy person.  Inquiring minds want to know!
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: DopeDivinity on July 06, 2012, 12:44:22 pm
I started when I made my first post, and just drunk my second glass of HydroPeroxide water not too long ago.

It doesnt seem to impart any taste that I can detect to the water... the undiluted has a smell but its not as strong as I remember, from when I was exposed to pharma grade hydrogen peroxide back in the day. 12:34

It is quite difficult to determine if I am feeling anything... I have been feeling different on a consistent basis, theres so many factors. Me and my brother had some boiled OxTail a few hours ago (WowDelicious), and soon after had a VeggieJuice. Somewhere in there my HeadFeeling flared up, and now at this point they are taming down, and I feel rather calm. Actually, strangely enough, I was feeling angry and irritable, and I Kicked a Kitten and that was where my headfeelings seemed to go away. Yay for KittenKickin'

However I feel like maybe its possible I am feeling something good from the HydroPeroxide, and I trust, after reading about its benefits, that its helpful for my situation

jessica, I'm not sure what "breathing exercises" are specifically... I do alternate nostril breathing sometimes. Breathing tends to be uncomfortable for me... oftentimes my will to suffer outweighs my will to breathe correctly. I could be doing more things like Yoga, I tend to be turned off by the "structuredness" of it though. Times are particularly challenging right now, Trampolining being one of my best options for getting the breathing/circulation going, I can't do that now because its too damn hot. I am camping out in the basement right now where its cooler... hmm its Midnight now, 83 degrees... maybe I can come out of hiding.
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: raw on July 09, 2012, 02:34:33 pm
I wonder about H2O2 therapy. I know that mental illness and bad gut are related each other. If this therapy can kill my brother's bad gut flora and rotten meat , acodophilous and other gooddy can fix his gut, we might see a result right there. It's hard to do this on a mental patient. But I can see that clearly if we (all of our RPD forum members) could open up a clinic to treat all uncurable illness, that would be a big hit. I can provide a place in New York . This clinic would be only for the family members of this forum who believes on Raw Paleo Diet.
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: DopeDivinity on July 09, 2012, 04:20:30 pm
I am on my 4th day right now... 3 courses of 24 drops. (of 8% FoodGrade mind you.)

I will say that it is difficult to determine, with all of my constant Lifestyle Changes, what has been causing me to feel better over the past few days.

However, there is something in me that feels the Hydrogen Peroxide is actually helping. Thats really all I can offer but the feeling is real. Maybe as I go deeper things will become clearer.
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: Dorothy on July 09, 2012, 07:53:47 pm
Raw - you are amazing.

Here's the reason why I'm going to start h202. I've been thinking a lot on this:

1. Rainfall usually has h202 in it.
2. We no longer drink water with h202 in it or have it touch our bodies like our raw paleo ancestors did.
3. The plants we eat are no longer touched by rain with h202 or watered with it into the soil.
4. The animals we eat are not fed it.
5. The air of the earth has been having it's oxygen levels depleted through pollution.
6. Even if you get rainwater to drink the pollution in the air is depleting the h202.
7. I live in a city which is more polluted and has even less oxygen in the air.

Even to just get on an even playing ground to hunter gatherers h202 might be a help.

The problems I am having with starting h202:
1. Atm, I can only get distilled water from nasty plastic bottles which I think might be worse for me than having low oxygen.
2. A distiller can still leave some nasty things in water. For instance if there is gasoline in the water (which is in a lot of city water supplies) the gasoline will collect and go back into the water.

I have to wait until my reverse osmosis system is up and running again. I am thinking of getting a distiller to distill my reverse osmosis water to have a good source for h202 water and colloidal silver. I don't feel comfortable trying this quite yet without a proper source of water.... but as soon as I do, I will, as it seems to make total sense to me from a raw paleo perspective. 
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: raw-al on July 13, 2012, 08:53:07 pm
I am on my 4th day right now... 3 courses of 24 drops. (of 8% FoodGrade mind you.)

I will say that it is difficult to determine, with all of my constant Lifestyle Changes, what has been causing me to feel better over the past few days.

However, there is something in me that feels the Hydrogen Peroxide is actually helping. Thats really all I can offer but the feeling is real. Maybe as I go deeper things will become clearer.
That is not following any protocol I have read.
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: raw-al on July 13, 2012, 08:58:04 pm
My W has gone up to 25 drops and is now down to 20.

She reports feeling mentally sharper, physically stronger (muscles, back), arthritic swelling has gone down, acne disapeared and little difficult to quantify things which are positive.

I see she looks younger and some other things which I will refrain from describing.  ;)

Her allergies have stopped.

She is also having 1/4 tsp of aluminum free baking soda with each glass.
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: Dorothy on July 13, 2012, 11:10:54 pm
Why the baking soda?
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: raw on July 13, 2012, 11:11:14 pm
How inspiring! Ur posts sungazing and bed therapy are also amazing. I will join with u soon in this therapy and keep reporting . This posts should go on and on.. We should open up a health clinic  like non-profit way , for only the family members of RPD. I am focusing on people, who needs absolute help, like my brother. Thank u AL
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: raw on July 13, 2012, 11:13:57 pm
I also know the aluminium free baking soda very well, but never bought yet or tried one. Looking for my brother, my husband and my mom to put on baking soda. Every one will be willing to do that, except my brother. Baking soda maintain the good ph balance and cures for many things
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: Dorothy on July 13, 2012, 11:26:00 pm
It also can make the vagina too alkaline for women - not all systems of the body are supposed to be alkaline. I'm not sure about doing that every day unless already eating a massively acid building diet.

Did your wife take a ph test and determine that she was too acidic in the urine or saliva Al?
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: raw-al on July 13, 2012, 11:28:32 pm
Why the baking soda?
Read about it in some articles on H2O2 and in other places.

I suspect it might be an antidote to the toxins produced by cooking, because some strong flavours may be counteracted. This is a wild unsubstantiated guess and I am not absolutely convinced it is a good thing for everyone. For someone with poor digestion it might not be a good idea.

It has been many moons since high school chemistry, but if my memory serves the soda may counteract the acidity of cooked foods.

You're welcome Raw. This site is a great source of info.

The aluminum free baking soda is very cheap BTW @ 2.99 cad a KG
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: Dorothy on July 13, 2012, 11:46:26 pm
Does your wife eat a cooked diet?

I've had bad experiences with baking soda - just to let you know - me and my Mom. It gave her a dangerously bad yeast infection only after one or two low doses. Neither Mom or I were eating lots of cooked food at the time - but if you are eating cooked food then you need even more stomach acid.

Granted - if you have cancer and need it gone it might be one way of doing that. There are much better therapies with a longer more extensive track record though.
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: raw-al on July 13, 2012, 11:58:24 pm
 ;D
It also can make the vagina too alkaline for women - not all systems of the body are supposed to be alkaline. I'm not sure about doing that every day unless already eating a massively acid building diet.

Did your wife take a ph test and determine that she was too acidic in the urine or saliva Al?
She has Pitta tendencies, so this to me is acidity, so I cannot see this being a problem. However thanks for the info.

No she didn't test 'it'. However I did run some tests on 'it'.

From some repetitive, repeatable, non-blind,  subjective, randomized, completely unscientific but repeatable tests  -X her 'you know what' seems to be exactly the right PH for it's intended purpose, indeed it has improved dramatically since the H2O2 started. There I said it.  ;)

The baking soda was not the magic elixir as the experimentation, (all done very scientifically you understand   ;D ;) ) started prior to the introduction of the BS, but I will take your sage advice to the caretaker of said 'it'.  ;D
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: Dorothy on July 14, 2012, 12:00:56 am
Ah - I see - had an imbalance in the other direction that is being helped. Just be aware that it could suddenly go too far the other way - so keep on monitoring "it".  ;)
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: raw-al on July 14, 2012, 12:04:45 am
Ah - I see - had an imbalance in the other direction that is being helped. Just be aware that it could suddenly go too far the other way - so keep on monitoring "it".  ;)
It's hard but I'll soldier on.  ;)

I plan to get some PH strips one of these days.
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: raw-al on July 28, 2012, 09:33:05 pm
I am on the third day, but I'm sticking to the 3 drops. I've been doing it twice a day also. This AM I poured it in the dark and I suspect I OD'd  ;D @ about 6.

Body odour has stopped according to my official BO checker. (my wife).

Her sense of hearing is much better BTW. She's back down to 5 drops.
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: raw-al on July 28, 2012, 09:38:37 pm
I'm going to read the link you posted Al - but I just wanted to add here before anyone else tries taking h202 internally:
I remember form my alternative cancer therapy research years that it is dangerous to take it internally along with the Budwig cure. Before taking milk products and h202 make sure to research this completely! There is some kind of chemical reaction that could be very dangerous.
Where did you learn about the milk issue? What exactly happens. Our source says you can have it with milk. The stuff tastes kind gross so this is appealing to me. It also solves the problem of not eating either side of the taking of H2O2.
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: Dorothy on July 29, 2012, 12:16:04 am
From cancertutor.com
http://cancertutor.com/Cancer/HydrogenPeroxide.html (http://cancertutor.com/Cancer/HydrogenPeroxide.html)


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WARNINGS ABOUT USING HYDROGEN PEROXIDE ORALLY (i.e. INTERNALLY)

THIS SECTION APPLIES TO A "THREE-HOUR WINDOW" EVERY TIME YOU TAKE H2O2 ORALLY!!

Hydrogen peroxide can chemically react with certain other substances. This chemical reaction creates a very toxic substance which can severely damage the stomach.

To avoid this chemical reaction, there is a "Three Hour Window" every time you take H2O2, where you should not consume certain substances. This "three hour window" does not apply to hydrogen peroxide baths because it only applies to what goes on inside the stomach.

For two hours BEFORE taking hydrogen peroxide orally (with water) and for one hour AFTER taking hydrogen peroxide, the foods in this section should be avoided!! This is a "three hour window" where you should not take these substances!!

1) All forms of vitamin C should be avoided. This especially applies to ascorbate forms, but all forms eventually turn into ascorbates, thus no form of Vitamin C should be used inside the "three hour window." This includes avoiding multi-vitamins which contain vitamin C, ascorbic acid, mineral ascorbates (e.g. sodium ascorbate, potassium carbonate, etc.).

2) Fatty acids, such as the Budwig Diet, fish oils, fatty foods, etc. should also be avoided during the "three hour window." In other words, all forms of fat in foods are forbidden within the window.

3) Any food with iron in it or any supplement with iron in it, is forbidden within the window.

Let me give you an example so you understand this critical instruction.

Suppose you want to take hydrogen peroxide at 10:00 AM. This means that you do NOT eat any forbidden food (see above) between 8:00 AM (two hours before the H2O2 is taken) and 11:00 AM (which is one hour after taking the H2O2).

Thus, for example, if you want to take H2O2 at 10:00 AM do not eat any forbidden foods between 8:00 AM and 11:00 AM. This is a "three hour window" where you should not take any forbidden foods.

If you do not follow the above rules the treatment can cause severe stomach damage!!

If you want more information on these subjects, and others (e.g. how to take H2O2 via injections) see the book: Hydrogen Peroxide: Medical Miracle by Dr. William Campbell Douglas, MD. Other books are mentioned below.

In earlier versions of cancertutor he said generally "dairy" - but now says Budwig - which is dairy based.
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: raw on January 09, 2014, 02:46:10 pm
H2O2 is doing a wonder for me. So far nothing can stop my chronic throat infection. On mostly RP Diet, it improves like 10%. Recently I m listening to my hubby and making a slow gurgle everyday, this is the 1st time in my life I m pain free .
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: goodsamaritan on January 09, 2014, 03:24:03 pm
H2O2 is doing a wonder for me. So far nothing can stop my chronic throat infection. On mostly RP Diet, it improves like 10%. Recently I m listening to my hubby and making a slow gurgle everyday, this is the 1st time in my life I m pain free .

What is your protocol?  What % H2O2 are you using?
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: raw-al on January 10, 2014, 02:07:09 am
Raw,
Do you eat fruit? That causes me to have a sore throat. Anything sour.
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: raw on January 10, 2014, 04:22:29 pm
First, I start gurgling my mouth and slowly go to deep of my throat by store bought 3% of H2O2. I done that sometimes like a month with great result . When I gurgle, I throw away the H2O2 after gurgling. And drink the water without the rinsing my mouth again.

My husband order then 35% food grade one from internet. I started to take 6 drops of H2O2 and 6 or less drops of colloidal silver together in a small water and drink that. I heard that colloidal and H2O2 can act the most powerful way together. But I already has the most surprising result, but other things I m NOT feeling yet. It might be I m eating RPD for long time now like 4 yrs, so my body is feeling good already. Also My son gets lyme disease from my country home and we r giving him H2O2 and seeing significant progress with rife treatment. Now my most concern with lead and I heard it is good for removing heavy metals. If some one has any success story on that , please, share with me.

Hi Raw-AL, yes, I have a bad habit. I do eat tropical fruits in winter time even. The fruits has lowest food value here. I do not have any body pain , but I suffer from severe throat problem. 
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide therapy
Post by: raw-al on January 11, 2014, 12:07:53 pm
Raw,

If you are going to eat the fruit, eat some raw butter (if you tolerate it) and or some coconut cream or anything such as raw cream that will coat the throat. Basically the fruit is very acidic. You will eventually lose your teeth if you persist. Periodontal disease will eat away your gums. That will only be the start of your problems.

Re the rife, have you heard about the new device Spooky2. It is well below $ 200 and it will diagnose. It will  handle heavy metals, but any Rife device will do that. What type to you have?

Learn about it at the RifeForum.com

Spooky 2 was finally released today. It is a crowdsourced setup with a group of volunteers.