I guess you forget the nonsense you write pretty quickly.

Google or YouTube Joe Rogan..

The guy is taking Testosterone for 20 years.. Armour Thyroid(pigs dried thyroid) and peptides for HGH release..

The guy is strong vibrant and healthier than 90% in this board..

Nice try vegan troll

I am not a vegan nor a troll.


I think that we should eat not only meat and fat. But also vegetables.. the MASAI TRIBE ate too much butter.

Political Atheist is a negative death cultist who for some reason participates in a health forum to promote his death cult.

I agree with everything he says.. but.. I don't know we are still alive yes we are ruled by satanist and the artificial Inteligence will lock us down even further soon.. but suicide is not an answer.

give us an example of what you are eating on the daily

ive tried restricting calories and it only results in fatigue, hunger that impairs brain function, and it didnt help me loose weight.

Because you need sugars.. fruits.. honey..water..during the day to keep your thyroid going and later on a good protein based meal to recover.

Athletes are doing this for a living..

If you won't provide carbohydrates your brain function will suffer eventually.

You are acting a foo and disrespecting someone attempting to have an intelligent discussion about very difficult subjects. Is there some personal demon regarding the subject of roids?? I’m actually more educated about the nuances of HRT than you may give credit for. I reconize both men and women can responsibly supplement hormone therapy to offset the negative effects of aging, and it can be a relatively safe practice.


Tanny won national body building titles on a raw meat based diet while fully natural in 1949; the Dianabol you claim he took wasn’t even available until 1958?? So as Tanny aged I will grant you he may of supplemented testosterone and used some steroids moderately in order to maintain his physiological peak into his later years; that still doesn’t take away the truth that he built himself up on the natural for years before dabbling in roid, craft…

That's it brother you see you understand..

roids is short for steroids.

All artificial hormones are harmful. Hormones are a signal to your body's tissues to act a certain way, they are not a source of power or health. If you've suffered an injury that damages your body's ability to produce certain hormones, perhaps you could have an argument. But blanket injecting artificial hormones into anyone is a terrible idea. If your body wanted hormones, it would make them.

Being very active is not always a good idea. If your body wanted you to be lifting up weights, climbing steep mountains and doing muay thai, it would make the natural versions of the artificial hormones you're injecting. AV always said some people shouldn't be too active, and there's nothing wrong with that, particularly once you reach a certain age.

Tell that to Lionel Messi , Lebron James , sarina Williams , Andrew Tate , liverKing , mark sissons , Ido portal , Conor McGregor.

Tell them how harmful is Human Growth Hormone.


btw I'm not about to enlighten anybody here.. somebody has to flip the burgers.

This lifestyle will improve the health of anyone, so yes saber, whatever someone's poison is, they can mitigate it being smart in other lifestyle choices. Of course that doesn't mean the poison is good or that it will have no ill effects on them.

the reality is Anabolic steroids and human growth hormone do not have any Ill effects if properly used and not ABUSED.

Human growth hormone thyroid and testosterone won't be at optimal level at certain age NO MATTER what diet you eat even if it's grassfed testicles.

The sad thing is that the Rich men who can afford hgh thyroid and testosterone properly executed HRT will be healthier and live better quality of life than any primal raw meat eater..

This is fact.

All the idiots you see dying are ABUSING which is far from HRT and/or using recreational drugs.

No one has ever died from testosterone or hgh..those things kept them alive if anything allowing the abuse of recreational drugs along the way to fatal event.


Hormones are not narcotics.




LiverKing is going to look feel and live better than most of you here raw primals because he has the money for real hormones.

And just how did he get the money he has ?

By the help of naive people like sabertooth.

My curiosity regarding this case extends beyond the duality of natural vs artificial.
I wonder if it’s possible that his use of raw primal
Nutrition could offset the negative effects of long term roid abuse?

His use of steroids does not in anyway detract from the fact that raw meat based nutrition has great virtue, not only for those purely on the Natch, but can also be a vehicle for who are abusing androgenic chemicals to mitigate the harmful effects of those drugs.

It’s a shame a man with his millions, doesn’t try to fund his own research; and conduct actual studies of subjects that are naturally primal, to prove that even if you can’t get a totally freakish physic , people can still obtain the results of raw meat pioneers such as ironman Armand Tanny.

I will say it only once and will not repeat..

Armand Tanny was not natural he used a drug named dianabol and experimented with methyl testosterone.

Even Eugene Sandow used a drug you all know by the name cocaine it was perfectly legal at his time and used as a metabolic stimulant to be dry and ripped and was very pure at that time.


I know it's hard to believe that there's no Santa Claus and even harder to believe that Santa's mom is a whore from hell.. but it is what it is.


Now back to this idiot liverking or what his name this idiot..
Don't ever believe him saying that he eat raw meat diet lol..

His physique screams "Insulin" and for that you need alot of carbs he eats oats and rice and proccesed junk food shit.. and then when he is on camera he eats raw meat for you to see you understand?

As a female...why   Lol

To make money.

I never assumed he was pure raw paleo by any stretch of the imagination; but I am intrigued by his bastardized integrative approach that uses elements of both natural and unnatural Extremes in order to obtain insane results.

Please forward any other evidence to back up the claim of insulin, growth hormone, and other such substances he is accused of using; it would be interesting?

It seems his wife and children may be on a more natural diet and lifestyle path and it would be interesting to see how the entire family holds up over time.

I agree with much of the ancestral tenants he professes, although I concede it is deceptive for someone who becomes wealthy selling “natural”  to be secretly getting jacked on the unnatural.

lol at evidence..every gym rat with enough experience with hormones can tell you that he is on all of that stuff.


He is selling raw Paleo approach because it sells.. a good physique and raw meat = attention.

Publicity is publicity.

And it's a currency to an extent.


He is also selling supplements lol

I suspect he is using something; but is there any proof of implants? Or testimony on what exactly he may be taking?

Although not exclusively paleo, high quality bio-identical hormone replacement therapy; if combined with an extremely pure primal lifestyle approach, could have amazing results.

Perhaps liver king won’t live to be 90 like natural raw meat body builder Arman Tanny, but he could possibly  be a total beast of a man for the next 3 decades?

Time will tell, and it would be helpful to know exactly what if any drugs the man may be using.

He had admitted himself that those are implants..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=L4MPI3RzecY


he is not just taking drugs he is abusing them.. .

His diet is not RAW PALEO..he only show RAW PALEO on camera because it sells.



He eats grains and cooked meats and takes human growth hormone , thyroid medicine, insulin ,and all the anabolic steroids spectrum along with anti estrogens(cancer medicine) to keep estrogen in check.




you have to be a complete idiot to believe he is doing raw Paleo diet lol

when the animal is healthy it's meat should taste good otherwise it's your instincts telling you the meat is not healthy and do not eat it.

It's really that simple.