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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => Welcoming Committee => Topic started by: K-WI on May 04, 2013, 05:11:43 pm
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Hi. I have been reading a lot on this forum. A lot of good and helpfull people. So pleased. And then i have decided to log in and post what i think its my story in order to maybe in the future help some people too and find answers to my questions.
I am a male, 31 years old. 1,80cms and 71 kilograms right now. I have been a little bit underweight since childhood...not a strong person.
When i was 1 year old, i had a lot of problems with food. I ate almost anything. My family say i only ate avocados, blue cheese, pickles and yogourt. My parents always had a bad time with my food intake....i could stay in front of the table for hours....it will be school time...and i still was sitting, looking at my meal. Pediatrist said i had some digestive disorders, diarreas of course. My parents didn´t give a lot of importance to this, and life went on.
Then at 10 years old i began to eat a lot. I began swallow all the food they put in front of me not matter what it was. But i still always been a thin person. I could eat a lot, but I never gained weight. I usually go to the bathroom 1, 2, 3 even 4 times a day, having loose stools and/or pale ones. I always had some acid reflux after meals...but I always thought it was normal, so, again life went on...
I have been always the type of person that easily do things, easily learn things...but i always lacked of discipline and attitude. I have began a lot of things in my life, i have been good in them, but always i left it, and began another new thing....i had never end anything on my life. I usually left things when they were going ok, in the best moments i change my attitude with them. It has been frustrating.
As well i had always been a rebel person. I usually destroyed all my relationships in life...not giving security to my girlfirends.....been influenzable by new people but not by my dear friends, family or people that loves me. I always thought this was due to my parents divorce, my circustances, or some genetical predispotion because my father is depressive/bipolar...as my grandpa is too...My other grandpa died from cancer and my uncle died too at 28 years old from medular cancer. I was born in a industrial city so I suppose it was so contaminated
At 15 years old i began smoking Pot and some tobacco, i dont know why, friends....social ego or automedication.....dont know.
I always had recurrent ear infections, alergies and bronchittis/asma and doctors usually gave me antibiotics, and inhalators like pulmicort, terbasmin, ventholin, and seretide...when i was 21 years old and by a naturalist reccomendation i quit milk and most dairy products and this issue solved in about a year.....but i think other things began happening to my inmune system.
Then i followed my life....get back things, left them, get back things, left them....and so on my life was like a roller-coaster.
I remember my friends always telling me i had a problem and lack of attention but i never think seriously about it. I thought it only were jokes. Some time ago a very close and smart friend told me he thought i was autist.....
3 years ago a book came to my hands. It was a naturist book. I began learning about "healthy" nutrition and quit sugar, i began to eat more honey....a lot of fruit in the mornings and evenings, big salads, veggies, safe starches, lots of olive oil, drink distilled water....and so on. I read about candida too, but i didn´t gave it so much importance. Then, another swing and i broke with my girl 2 years ago. So in retrospective....this form of life didn,t help a lot
I decided to live alone and try to search me but i failed and began another relationship. I never open my heart to her, and she suffered a lot. I tried to broke with her 3 times but always come back...She still were suffering about me. She was the best person i had ever meet, disciplined, know how to love, have a lot of attention for me, and was giving me ALL, but i couldn´t saw it ...always thinking on me and me..".i am not well, i am not well, i am going to hurt you...." and so it was....
Then i learn and read again about candida, i had some toenail fungus, white thrush on my mouth and dry mouth, pennis fungus, mood swings and ohhhh! The answer to all my problems.....it wasn´t me...it is a fungus that is destroying my blood and life...easy thing...change your diet and your life will change.....easy, isn´t it? JA JA JA
And last summer i change my diet.....began eating "healthy grains" you know, millet, amaranth, buckwheat....a lot of veggies....not sugar....a lot of nuts, veggies soups, miso, tamari, a lot of neew stuff i thoght i had the key of health that never had.....but become obsesed with the food, not wanting to go anywhere because i need to eat this stuff or that one. My great girl began to suffer more indeed.
Then, i bought a book about fasting...and did a 11 day water fast with enemas, i lost 11 kilograms....thought i was still underweight....my girl didn´t aproved it...but i had the real key of health....you know...2000 years of health on my hands...during this fast none of my symptoms improved (white tongue, fungal issues, chilis...) but at least i could saw some aliens getting out my body what i thought it was candida (i will show photos) and eureka! YEs i have candida! ok... I began to eat again, you know, fruit juices, rice, no meat, nuts...typical things....I gained back about 7 kilograms. I forgot to say that the same day i broke my fasting...my girl broke with me....she thought i became crazy (and certainly i was) and she never believed on the candida theories i was doing.
Went to general Doctor that did me some blood and stools tests that showed positive on parasites (giardia lamblia) and high levels of blood white cells. He gave me metronidazol but i didn´t take it because i did a lot of research on the internet and it showed me that it wouldn´t work.
Then i learn about liver flushings but i had never have the willpower for doing any.
The the potato/no fat diet of a curezone poster came....i lost another 4 kilogram and i got skynny again for christmass. My far family was shocked when they saw me....even my grandpa though i was a heroin addict.....bad moments.
Then i began to eat cooked paleo and gain some weight...but some things began to happen....dark cyrcles around my eyes and very very bad breath...
I went then to a special psichiatric 100kms from my house. He confirm me all my theories. I had leaky gut, probably due to a food intolerance or a toxic poisoning (mercury..lead...etc). He did me a blood analisys that showed very low levels of aminoacids and he said me my brain couldn´t work properly with this levels. They showed very low trypthophan, taurine, omega 3s, and more....
He put me on suplements+diet.....some herbal remedies for drinking and cleansing
Morning: Aloe vera juice + probiotics + oranje juice + apple puree + folic acid low fat milk + cereals (usually muesly or oats) and a blue fish sandwich if hungry (this gave me reflux instantly)
Lunch: cooked beans/lentils/rice or potatoes with veggies and some krill oil omega 3 capsules
Dinner: Fish, omelette, veggies and probiotic + taurine + tryptophan.
I then began to have a lot anxiety but massive energy...but i was super indecisive....although i was doing things...my ex girl could get near me again, she almost thought to come again with me....but then i broke this diet and suplements again when reading this and other forums and seeing that people do better without all that stuff (beans, grains.....fruits) and began some short of cooked paleo again due to what i thought was anxiety..........and things have been worsening again till now. I am totally depressed again, eating whatever i want i thinking that i am not going to beat this beast with diet....due to my indecissivenness and fears, my ex has got distance again from me....and i am not doing almost anything again.
I have only tested raw meat 1 day last week and it was in the form of steak tartare.....i think it was delicious but i couldn´t eat raw meat and fat alone, and what about organs....uffff
Anyway raw meat seems to digest very well on my and formed good and dark poops althought i constipate me...the only day in the last months that i had no poops was the day after the raw meat.....and i broke it with carbs and then i go to the bathrooms again.
I am not in paleo, i am not in anything right now.....i had a lot of fear, i became obsessed with food and all people around me think that food by itself won´t cure me....even they thought this is not a real illness, that all is on my head.....
I have read a lot of good stories here, but a lot of people are still ill, and not tolerating new foods....if they eat some sugar, or some honey or some milk...they will be broke again....so i would like to go to the root of the problem. In my case thinking on Mercury or some toxic poisoning (despite i had no fillings?) and thinking this aliens/parasites are doing some good to me eating that toxic stuff?
It is my elimination organs? Do i need liver flushings? Don´t know.
Even i had emailed GS several times to ask for answers and yet i am not following his reccomendations. Not willpower. I have been reading a lot of different stories on the internet, that i am totally misleading and i don´t know how to continued this issue right now. I have been readings stories here (Michael for example) almost 10 years on RAF and didn´t beat candida…then he began to do chelation but suddently there are not more posts from him since this (I am guessing if he turned on michael B, a success poster overcoming candida on curezone forums)
My symptoms are:
TOenail fungus
Penis fungus and itchy penis
White thrush on the tongue
Brain fog
Depression
Anxiety
Lack of concentration/poor memory/always doing weird things/lack of
No want to live or do things feeling.
Thinking as all my decisions are bad and always destroy anything i touch.
MOlars that move and slightly headache always when moving it.
Cold hands and feet normally.
Bad saliva odour
Reflux.
Soft and pale stools
Always broken bones easily.
Ear ringing.
Hair loss.
And that is what i think is my story. Of course you could see it like a totally different one from another point of view. I am not on the RAF wagon yet, but i am considering it as I am too a sugar addict but I think if this sugar addiction is only to feed that candida who is helping me on detoxing some thing from my body and starve it will only turn the things worse. I would like to find the real root cause of my illness and try to fix it as soon as possible.
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This are candida (or what i think it is) released during my water fast....anyone knows this alien?
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This is my white tongue.....weird :-(((
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Raw meat isn't necessarily a panacea. A lot of fixing your diet involves removing bad foods. What is your daily diet?
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I apologised, I have changed it many times and actually is nothing.....really binging on sad...
white tongue is here since many months ago but when i eat fats/carbs it is the worst......
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As CK said, raw meat is not a panacea..., fixing your diet involves removing bad foods. I hope you can see that most of the bad foods and bad food processing (like cooking) were incorporated into the human diet after the paleolithic era, so a raw paleo diet can be free of so-called bad foods.
Your tongue looks horrid, much worse than mine ever did. The poop strands might be strings of mucus. When I tried RPD two years ago, I promised myself to try for two weeks only. I'm still here, feeling so much better. I have tried many raw animals foods and I have my favorites. I never eat grains or milk or cheese. The things I could never figure out about my health are obvious now.
I will assume you are here for your health, and I hope you read what you need to know to help yourself. So nice of you to introduce yourself.
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As CK said, raw meat is not a panacea..., fixing your diet involves removing bad foods. I hope you can see that most of the bad foods and bad food processing (like cooking) were incorporated into the human diet after the paleolithic era, so a raw paleo diet can be free of so-called bad foods.
Your tongue looks horrid, much worse than mine ever did. The poop strands might be strings of mucus. When I tried RPD two years ago, I promised myself to try for two weeks only. I'm still here, feeling so much better. I have tried many raw animals foods and I have my favorites. I never eat grains or milk or cheese. The things I could never figure out about my health are obvious now.
I will assume you are here for your health, and I hope you read what you need to know to help yourself. So nice of you to introduce yourself.
Thanks for your answer.
Yes it is horrid and yes, i am because of my health and because i don´t trust a lot on doctors. But one year ago i thought the panacea was fruits/veggies/nuts/oils/grains and now i tried steak tartare!!!! Extreme....
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There is so much anti-meat and anti-meat propaganda stemming from faulty scientific conclusions about disease in modern societies. Underneath all the clamor for vegetarian eating is the calm voice of ancestral eating. Once you find your own proof, it will be easier to adjust to RPD and stop the binge eating..
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The first step is getting all grains and processed sweeteners out of your diet for a while. The second step is to start eating some raw fats, especially coconut oil, every day. Raw fats starve candida, and coconut oil starves it AND kills it.
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Coconut oil?? Was there any in the Paleolithic era? I found plenty coconuts in various states in coconuts plantations, but never found any oil… So, I just looked what is exactly that stuff here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut_oil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut_oil) and read (excerpts):
Coconut oil can be extracted through "dry" or "wet" processing. Dry processing requires the meat to be extracted from the shell and dried using fire, sunlight, or kilns to create copra.[2] The copra is pressed or dissolved with solvents, producing the coconut oil and a high-protein, high-fiber mash. The mash is of poor quality for human consumption and is instead fed to ruminants; there is no process to extract protein from the mash. The preparation and storage of copra often occurs in unhygienic conditions, yielding poor quality oil that requires refining. A portion of the oil extracted from copra is lost to the process of extraction.
The all-wet process uses raw coconut rather than dried copra, and the protein in the coconut creates an emulsion of oil and water.[3] The more problematic step is breaking up the emulsion to recover the oil. This used to be done by prolonged boiling, but this produces a discolored oil and is not economical; modern techniques use centrifuges and pre-treatments including cold, heat, acids, salts, enzymes, electrolysis, shock waves, or some combination of them. Despite numerous variations and technologies, wet processing is less viable than dry processing due to a 10-15% lower yield, even compared to the losses due to spoilage and pests with dry processing. Wet processes also require investment of equipment and energy, incurring high capital and operating costs.
Many health organizations advise against the consumption of high amounts of coconut oil due to its high levels of saturated fat, including the United States Food and Drug Administration,[22] World Health Organization,[23] International College of Nutrition,[24] the United States Department of Health and Human Services,[25] American Dietetic Association,[26] American Heart Association,[27] British National Health Service,[28] and Dietitians of Canada.[26][dead link]
Coconut oil contains a large proportion of lauric acid—a saturated fat that raises blood cholesterol levels by increasing the amount of high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol and low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol.[29] It is also found in significant amounts in laurel oil, palm kernel oil (not to be confused with palm oil), human and animal breast milk and sebaceous gland secretions.[30][31] This may create a more favourable blood cholesterol profile, though it is unclear if coconut oil may promote atherosclerosis through other pathways.
Coconut oil has been tested for use as a feedstock for biodiesel to be used as a diesel engine fuel.
Oh yes, use it to make a fuel for diesel engines is the best thing you can do with coconut oil! ;)
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There is a lot of people trying to kill the candida with coconut oil and they keep failling again....i think.
My big question is: Why is my candida here? Is candida really the big problem or maybe my inmune system, poisoning.....?
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I don't know. Others here will certainly know.
All I can say is: eat 100 % raw, unprocessed, unmixed, unseasoned paleo food using your nose and taste buds and others instinctive feelings to know what and how much to eat and it should slowly clear off.
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Good advice. Thanks...so on..if my tastes buds seems that i like oranje juices...i must go for it....?
They dont´t seem to love raw meatbut if i prepare it like steak tartare with a little bit of tamari and onion, cappers and pickles.....i love , but this doesn´t fill your word "unseasoned"......
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As a general principle: oranges yes, orange juice no. Coconut yes, coconut oil no.
Fresh raw meat is often unattractive. After drying-aging it for some weeks hung on a hook in a (dry) fridge, it takes a quite different taste and may be very tasty. But to like it, we have first to get rid of any proteins overload due to a previous excessive consumption of cooked meat-eggs-fish and dairy.
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I don't know. Others here will certainly know.
Why do you think that remaining ignorant is a virtue? We're not in the Garden of Eden. it's too late for innocence.
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try to reduce your carbohydrate consumption, like under 50g a day. you will likely feel like absolute shit for a few weeks, maybe even a few months, but chances are your mental health will improve in this time and you will start to see the light!
focus on fatty meats, you can gentle cook them to begin with, its more important that you just get your carbs lowered then you go directly to raw meats. make stews and roasts (slowly cook these, no boiling/super long cooking times or super high heat) with plenty of garlic, pepper, mustard, curry, etc. use fatty cuts of meat, oxtails, pork roasts, be sure these are nice grass fed or the best quality meats you can find. offal works best ground up with other meats, you can make meatballs or meatloaf. bacon and sausage without added sugars is great, focus on savory instead of sweet.
try egg yolks as a dressing for green veggies, keep to low carb and non starchy veggies. think more along the lines of lettuce, cucumber, green beans, kale, collards, radish..etc.
do not eat fruit for the time being.
you will need to focus on starving out candida and rebalancing your gut flora. get a digestive enzyme like pancreatin, as well as a probiotic like garden of life brand "primal defense"
drink a ton of water, add seaweed so that you have plenty of electrolytes, drink the broth from your soups and stews.
work on getting more omega 3's in your diet, if you have access to oysters, clams, fatty fish, eat those! if not consider a supplement. try to stay away from seeds and nuts and seed and nut oils!
most of all consistency and moderation is important here, it takes the body quite a long time to truly break down, it takes time and patience to truly heal
is there a chance you can have your vitamin and mineral levels tested? have you actually had your food allergies tested?
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Why do you think that remaining ignorant is a virtue?
Did I say so??
Needless to say that I completely disagree with you, Jessica...
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Did I say so??
Needless to say that I completely disagree with you, Jessica...
With Jessica? refered to what?
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Yes, I disagree with Jessica's approach in her above post.
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The way I see it, there are two forces at play here. On the one hand, if we were all raised as paleolithic children, we would probably not exhibit immune disorders and other special needs. On the other hand, if we continue with a modern-day agricultural diet, our diseases will progress and multiply.
So there are two routes: continue with cooking and processing our food and search for a magic bullet to make us immune to the ravages of cooked and processed foods, or...
Dive whole heartedly into RPD, which removes the giant thorn, and then address the remnants of disease.
In my case, I came to RPD with such bad arthritis in my hip that I couldn't walk. I was still working, and the walk from the parking lot to my office was so painful that I considered lying down in the middle of the street so that someone would call an ambulance. The things I tried before RPD were the "usual" treatments: food supplements, raw vegetarian, vegan, and fruitarian, enemas, etc. After a few days on RPD, I was walking without pain, although a limp remained. Eighteen months after starting RPD, I consulted a naturopathic doctor, got some blood tests and xrays, and take a few supplements that were indicated. The doctors are all delighted that I stick to RPD - even though they do not prescribe this way of eating into their recommendations, they have had enough evidence from their patients to know that raw meat eaters make the most successful recoveries.
I have read that, when autoimmune issues are present, removing the toxins are imperative. Even if you don't recover the tissues and organs that were damaged, at least you won't decline further. Also, remember that it is impossible to see long-term improvement immediately. Go on faith a little, and be patient with the process of healing.
For the record, I eat a high fat, moderate protein, and low carbohydrate RPD diet. I do not cook my food.
Hope this does not confuse you further. There are no absolute rules here, and there are many variations to eating raw meals that include animal products.
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Fresh raw meat is often unattractive. After drying-aging it for some weeks hung on a hook in a (dry) fridge, it takes a quite different taste and may be very tasty.
also I totally agree with this, dry aged meats are amazing, and a great way to break into rpd, but I still think that elimination of carbs, starchy veggies, grains, nuts, and refined nut and seed products while consuming a whole foods paleo type diet is first and formost, so to ease into it with cooked meats is still a million times better then to try and do raw and get lost on all the vegan detox bull shit that's out there. I also believe once people get their "cravings", taste and habit for SAD foods out of the system, they will gravitate towards raw paleo........there are tons of examples of people on the internet, on things like paleo hacks, where folks have tinkered with raw meats after being paleo for a while because that's the natural progression, but its a process.
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Perhaps, Jessica.
But why do you want to eliminate starchy veggies, nuts and carbs? There's no reason to think that our paleo ancestors didn't eat any nuts, carby foods and starchy plants. On the contrary we know that both chimps and nowadays last hunther-gatherers eat plants, fruits and nuts as well.
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But why do you want to eliminate starchy veggies, nuts and carbs? There's no reason to think that our paleo ancestors didn't eat any nuts, carby foods and starchy plants. On the contrary we know that both chimps and nowadays last hunther-gatherers eat plants, fruits and nuts as well.
Looking at the pictures of this poster's coated tongue and poop full of mucus and his description of body fungus and digestive woes, I think it makes sense for him to severely limit (or eliminate) carbs. Our paleo ancestors did not have his eating and health history, nor were they given antibiotics as children. If his internal body climate is so unbalanced, he cannot just ignore the dysfunction and pretend that omnivorous RPD will heal it.
When someone has candida albicans overgrowth, the candida itself overrides appetite signals and mental clarity, and all of a sudden that person will think he really, truly has an appetite for fruits and other carbohydrates. The cravings become intense. He is saying so himself: he is binge eating SAD. Next thing you know, somebody will come along and tell him he needs psychotherapy for eating disorder.
K-WI, with or without coconut oil, correct very low carb RPD is a good idea. If you are feeding candida with carbs, coconut oil will not prevail. If you do get commerical coconut oil, try to find a brand that uses the old method of natural oil separation, not the processed kind that Iguana provided a description of.
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Ok...Yeast feed on sugar/ and they think instead of me....i assume that.
Then when i crave sugar is the yeast who is telling me to crave it....
But, what when i crave fats?
I don´t know if it is normal...but i do crave fats too....
There are some big theories out there....one is that candida is provoqued by an excess sugar on the diet.... another that it is because a excesss of fats....others: liver issues, gallblader issues, metal poisoning, weak inmune system ....
It is interesting because i didn,t catch a fever since many years ago...and i am wondering how with such infection that i have i no longer catch high temps or fever
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It is interesting because i didn,t catch a fever since many years ago...and i am wondering how with such infection that i have i no longer catch high temps or fever
One thought that makes sense to me is that it takes an effective army to mount a defensive action. In the case of the body, symptoms such as fever and cold symptoms are the body's defenses. When the body is weak, it cannot raise a defensive symptom to fight infection.
Also, if you are talking about candida albicans, it is not like an infection. Some candida is normal, so the body should not raise fever in response to candida.
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Perhaps, Jessica.
But why do you want to eliminate starchy veggies, nuts and carbs? There's no reason to think that our paleo ancestors didn't eat any nuts, carby foods and starchy plants. On the contrary we know that both chimps and nowadays last hunther-gatherers eat plants, fruits and nuts as well.
Some people need to get almost completely rid of carbs for a while, before they can start healthfully eating a sizable amount of carbs again.
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Do you know anybody who had healed his whte flurry tonge with this way of eating zero carb?
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Looking at the pictures of this poster's coated tongue and poop full of mucus and his description of body fungus and digestive woes, I think it makes sense for him to severely limit (or eliminate) carbs. Our paleo ancestors did not have his eating and health history, nor were they given antibiotics as children. If his internal body climate is so unbalanced, he cannot just ignore the dysfunction and pretend that omnivorous RPD will heal it.
When someone has candida albicans overgrowth, the candida itself overrides appetite signals and mental clarity, and all of a sudden that person will think he really, truly has an appetite for fruits and other carbohydrates. The cravings become intense. He is saying so himself: he is binge eating SAD. Next thing you know, somebody will come along and tell him he needs psychotherapy for eating disorder.
K-WI, with or without coconut oil, correct very low carb RPD is a good idea. If you are feeding candida with carbs, coconut oil will not prevail. If you do get commerical coconut oil, try to find a brand that uses the old method of natural oil separation, not the processed kind that Iguana provided a description of.
Are you sure that even unprocessed carbohydrates such as found in sweet potatoes, wild fruits, sugar cane or honey from wild bees should be avoided when someone has a candida albicans overgrowth? I looked on wikipedia and there’s nothing about such a recommendation. Excerpt (confirming what you wrote in your following post) :
C. albicans is commensal and a constituent of the normal gut flora comprising microorganisms that live in the human mouth and gastrointestinal tract. C. albicans lives in 80% of the human population without causing harmful effects, although overgrowth of the fungus results in candidiasis (candidosis).
Still, even if natural carbohydrates were a culprit, which I doubt, why avoid nuts while a processed derivative of nuts such a coconut oil would be fine?
And once again, cravings shouldn’t be entirely trusted because they are due to our memory of the last time (or times) we ate a particular foodstuff. Since our condition is dynamic, it has changed meanwhile, so that we have to check with our nose and taste buds whether this foodstuff is still good for us at the moment. We may crave for some raw paleo food, but once we got it and test it, we can be surprised that it’s not good at the moment.
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Do you know anybody who had healed his whte flurry tonge with this way of eating zero carb?
I got rid of white coated tongue, body fungus, and brain fog as an added benefit of very low carb. I never did zero carb. My main object is to moderate the release of insulin because of insulin resistance. It does not sound like that is your problem.
I realize that many candida protocols advise cutting out all carbs for a while, but then add some back. A good friend of mine got rid of her candidiasis by substituting coconut flour and flakes for everything for a while. I don't have the habit of needing to replace things like breads, so I never did that.
@ Iguana: I'm not sure who you are asking about natural carbs, including nuts. Limiting carbs does not imply using unnatural carbs. One simply eats less of the natural carbs. Nuts have relatively low amounts of carbs, so they are not prohibited. Actually, come to think of it, nothing is prohibited to achieve low carb intake. I see people in the lunchroom maintain a low carb intake while eating sugary foods.
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Everheart, thanks for your responses....
Here are some questions
Did you passed the mucous strings like mines while on the diet?
Do you feel that you are cured completely (for example can you eat one month of SAD without getting that white tongue again)?
What sort of fungus did you have?
Did you do some cleanses or just change your diet?
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Did you passed the mucous strings like mines while on the diet?
I have passed mucus strings when I have eaten the wrong foods, like dairy or gluten.
Do you feel that you are cured completely (for example can you eat one month of SAD without getting that white tongue again)?
I am so convinced that SAD itself is so toxic - including cooked foods, grains, pasteurized dairy, grainfed animal meats, grainfed farmed sea animals, etc. - that I avoid eating SAD at all. I am not tempted to poison myself. I would as soon eat rat poison as eat a SAD diet. For example, if you had arsenic poisoning and took a treatment that cured you, would you want to eat arsenic again?
What sort of fungus did you have?
Candida albicans, in all the wrong places: tongue and skin folds like groin, armpits, navel (itchy!). I think that once candida leaks out of the gut, it can show up and persist in the system even when the gut is clear. If you starve it, I won't flare up into symptoms.
Did you do some cleanses or just change your diet?
I gave up on decades of cleanses with herbs, fasting, and enemas when I started RPD. Nowadays, I don't feel bogged down by ill health, so I don't feel the need to cleanse in a significant way. I do take one medication and a few food supplements in response to some blood tests that I had. I don't believe I can give myself a reliable self-diagnosis, so it helps to learn from health professionals that I trust. I do try all the RPD food suggestions that are mentioned by members of this forum. Some stuff I like. Some stuff goes out with the trash.
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As a general principle: oranges yes, orange juice no. Coconut yes, coconut oil no.
Fresh raw meat is often unattractive. After drying-aging it for some weeks hung on a hook in a (dry) fridge, it takes a quite different taste and may be very tasty. But to like it, we have first to get rid of any proteins overload due to a previous excessive consumption of cooked meat-eggs-fish and dairy.
Living in a wet climate here....maybe a dehydrator could be helpful.
How did you get rid of any overload by excessive comsuption of cooked stuff?
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is there a chance you can have your vitamin and mineral levels tested? have you actually had your food allergies tested?
Actually not jessica, i did a blood and stool test months ago. It showed a parasite and high whiteblood cells..did you mean that?
How is the way a food test intolerance is done? Don´t know much about them....
Like to think that it is not that food the problem (which maybe it was) but is how your body is reacting to that food the issue....or how damaged/poisoned is your body that it isn´t no longer able to handle that food properly.
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The way I see it, there are two forces at play here. On the one hand, if we were all raised as paleolithic children, we would probably not exhibit immune disorders and other special needs. On the other hand, if we continue with a modern-day agricultural diet, our diseases will progress and multiply.
So there are two routes: continue with cooking and processing our food and search for a magic bullet to make us immune to the ravages of cooked and processed foods, or...
Dive whole heartedly into RPD, which removes the giant thorn, and then address the remnants of disease.
In my case, I came to RPD with such bad arthritis in my hip that I couldn't walk. I was still working, and the walk from the parking lot to my office was so painful that I considered lying down in the middle of the street so that someone would call an ambulance. The things I tried before RPD were the "usual" treatments: food supplements, raw vegetarian, vegan, and fruitarian, enemas, etc. After a few days on RPD, I was walking without pain, although a limp remained. Eighteen months after starting RPD, I consulted a naturopathic doctor, got some blood tests and xrays, and take a few supplements that were indicated. The doctors are all delighted that I stick to RPD - even though they do not prescribe this way of eating into their recommendations, they have had enough evidence from their patients to know that raw meat eaters make the most successful recoveries.
I have read that, when autoimmune issues are present, removing the toxins are imperative. Even if you don't recover the tissues and organs that were damaged, at least you won't decline further. Also, remember that it is impossible to see long-term improvement immediately. Go on faith a little, and be patient with the process of healing.
For the record, I eat a high fat, moderate protein, and low carbohydrate RPD diet. I do not cook my food.
Hope this does not confuse you further. There are no absolute rules here, and there are many variations to eating raw meals that include animal products.
Remarcable....Glad to read your great recovery. And hope it continues.
And for removing the toxins, all of you say, raw diet is imperative...but as you said there are a lot of different combinations. You can eat green leafy veggies plus nuts and you could make that diet a High fat/moderate protein/low carb RPD.
And, perhaps the real heal, uthopic one, maybe, but will be when i ´ll be able to eat all raw paleo foods again. So as you said, first step will be not harming more your damaged organs...let them to "breath" again. But maybe will be some added protocols to recover almost completely and help detoxing a little bit more. And perhaps being able to tolerate again some milk, honey, or fruit....at least they are paleolitic foods or maybe cheat on SAD for a social event and not having problems at all.
Also there are other toxics on this times not only cooked/processed foods but chemicals/antibiotics/vaccines/pollution/microwaves/stress.....
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Looking at the pictures of this poster's coated tongue and poop full of mucus and his description of body fungus and digestive woes, I think it makes sense for him to severely limit (or eliminate) carbs. Our paleo ancestors did not have his eating and health history, nor were they given antibiotics as children. If his internal body climate is so unbalanced, he cannot just ignore the dysfunction and pretend that omnivorous RPD will heal it.
I have read some stories of people getting rid of toenail fungus and white tongue just by removing what were poisoning them, for example amalgams/mercury and doing long time chelation.
When someone has candida albicans overgrowth, the candida itself overrides appetite signals and mental clarity, and all of a sudden that person will think he really, truly has an appetite for fruits and other carbohydrates. The cravings become intense. He is saying so himself: he is binge eating SAD. Next thing you know, somebody will come along and tell him he needs psychotherapy for eating disorder.
Totally agree but there is one missing point in this for me.....Imagine you have amalgams, and you are being poisoned by them. Aulthought a good RPD will give you more strenght,(and more importantly, tou your elimination organs) there are theories that claim that, in this case, candida and parasites could be helping you detoxing from heavy metals.....by going low carb you are not feeding them and you are not removing the main cause of your illness.
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One thought that makes sense to me is that it takes an effective army to mount a defensive action. In the case of the body, symptoms such as fever and cold symptoms are the body's defenses. When the body is weak, it cannot raise a defensive symptom to fight infection.
Totally agree, i think :-)
Also, if you are talking about candida albicans, it is not like an infection. Some candida is normal, so the body should not raise fever in response to candida.
I am completely sure that this strings are an infection. And Giardia Lamblia as well, but don´t know if a high fever is the properly way to get rid of it......so listening to my body it seems either it isn,t or my body is so weakened to do that.
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Living in a wet climate here....maybe a dehydrator could be helpful.
How did you get rid of any overload by excessive comsuption of cooked stuff?
Yes, a dehydrator is useful to dry the meat at ambient temperature. 12 to 24 hours in the flow of a fan is enough to have the meat dry in surface. It can then be stored in a fridge and perhaps put again in the dehydrator one hour or two if it gets to damp again.
You get rid of an overload just but avoiding anymore load and wait until the overload is resorbed! ;)
And perhaps being able to tolerate again some milk, honey, or fruit....at least they are paleolitic foods
To get milk, you need to go into domestication of animals. This is typically Neolithic and even a few decades ago there were several large population groups on the planet who never drank any animal milk.
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To get milk, you need to go into domestication of animals. This is typically Neolithic and even a few decades ago there were several large population groups on the planet who never drank any animal milk.
Yes, sorry, i apologised, .....it is neolithic
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You get rid of an overload just but avoiding anymore load and wait until the overload is resorbed! ;)
I don´t know if i understood:
So in order to get rid of cooked neolithic protein------raw paleolithic protein...
In order to get rid of cooked neolithic fats------raw paleolithic fats....
In order to get rid of cooked neolithic carbs----raw paleolithic carbs.....
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No, I mean that to find an unseasoned and unmixed raw food tasty, we need to get rid of an overload of the nutrients contained in that foodstuff.
When our body is in a state of protein overload (which is almost always the case with a standard cooked and dairy diet) unseasoned raw meat, raw fish and raw eggs are repulsive: we bump immediately into the instinctive stop. In practice, it generally suffice of a few days without dairy and cooked animal foods until raw unseasoned animal foods become attractive.
Said in simpler way: we have to be hungry to appreciate a meal! :)
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I have read some stories of people getting rid of toenail fungus and white tongue just by removing what were poisoning them, for example amalgams/mercury and doing long time chelation.
Totally agree but there is one missing point in this for me.....Imagine you have amalgams, and you are being poisoned by them. Aulthought a good RPD will give you more strenght,(and more importantly, tou your elimination organs) there are theories that claim that, in this case, candida and parasites could be helping you detoxing from heavy metals.....by going low carb you are not feeding them and you are not removing the main cause of your illness.
I'm not sure why you said "imagine," but if that means you do have amalgams, remove your amalgams and do chelation for a while! Dental health deteriorates on SAD, so amalgams (which get loose margins that harbor bacteria) plus periodontal disease can be a constant source of toxic overload. Candida and parasites are not the only source of detoxing, so you can replace them with an appropriate substitute - iodine, selenium, chlorella, cilantro all come to mind. Oil pulling is nice, too.
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I'm not sure why you said "imagine," but if that means you do have amalgams, remove your amalgams and do chelation for a while! Dental health deteriorates on SAD, so amalgams (which get loose margins that harbor bacteria) plus periodontal disease can be a constant source of toxic overload. Candida and parasites are not the only source of detoxing, so you can replace them with an appropriate substitute - iodine, selenium, chlorella, cilantro all come to mind. Oil pulling is nice, too.
No. I don´t have amlagams, just 2 composite fillings of root canals due to an accident in which i broke my 2 front teeth. But i don´´t believe that this is the root of my problem...I wanted to open the point of view a little thing wondering if maybe will be important to do some more things along with the diet. (Chelation, cleanses or something....)
Problems came many years ago....most important bipolar/depressive/lack of concentrarion/attention/autoinmune disease/bone density/food intolerances
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Actually not jessica, i did a blood and stool test months ago. It showed a parasite and high whiteblood cells..did you mean that?
How is the way a food test intolerance is done? Don´t know much about them....
Like to think that it is not that food the problem (which maybe it was) but is how your body is reacting to that food the issue....or how damaged/poisoned is your body that it isn´t no longer able to handle that food properly.
intolerance tests are done by testing the blood, they can also be done on the skin. mineral and vitamin analysis can be done to the stool.
when your body is constantly out of balance and reacting to things you are allergic to, it takes a toll on the adrenals, which produce histamine to fight the inflammatory response to the allergens. removing the allergens, and things that feed disbiosis, and then concentrating on saturating the body with proper nutrients, fats, amino acids and beneficial bacteria is what to focus on.
I had systemic candida, I didn't have a white tongue coat like yours, but had yeasty sticky spit, bad dandruff and would get extremely fevourish and break out in acne and sores when I would eat fruit, honey, starchy veggies, alcohol. I would binge on these things, felt very out of control and at the will of my blood sugar swings. this was so severe that, even after cutting out all food allergens, which helped but didn't instantly cure the disbiosis, I had ammenorhea for five years due to this whole cycle of build up of yeasts/disbiosis, binging, blood sugar issues....etc...
what finally helped was to really commit to a very low carb diet, remove all plant foods besides greens, and lower carb veggies like celery and cucumber, and to really focus on whole animal foods, some cooked, some raw but mostly fatty cuts, offal, marrow, egg yolks, seaweeds and even some supplemental vitamins and omega 3's because I know that the allergies and inflammation inhibited proper absorption of nutrients.
I finally have my blood sugar and hormones back in balance, my mouth is amazingly clean feeling, no sores or acne flaring up from consumption if carbs, no cravings, my digestion is regular, no bloating, my energy is improving daily and most of all my mental health is truly STABLE, for the first time in my life, the depression used to lift for a while, but it was like a rollercoaster, now I feel calm and sustainable in my emotions.
I have read so many other similar anecdotes on the internet I have to believe that this is not some kind of gimmick or quick detox diet, but a sustainable and healing lifestyle. i have seen it range from stories so similar to mine psychologically as well as physiologically to many other types of disorders improve and heal with a low carb, ketogenic whole foods diet.
to be clear I don't think carbs/fruits/starchy veggies are totally out of the picture for life, but I would say even a few years healing time isn't out of the questions. if its spring in your area, like it is here, i encourage moderate amounts of spring veggies for sure, all the bitter greens, flowers, asparagus, onions and garlic if you are not sensitive to them.
patience, moderation and really focusing on a healing period where you just slow down, simplify the diet, get past the cravings, get the blood sugar stabilized and intestinal bacteria back in check, and let your body rest and calm down is extremely important and the basis for healing.
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I have already beginned again with the dr suplements till i decided what to do because i have them at home and already noticed they have some vitamins, aminoacids, omega3 and probiotics, and maybe they could help me a little bit for energy while i decide what to do
But her diet is high in fruits, PUFAS, processed milk (folic acid B flora), beans, grains, and all of you are not advocating to do so, althought the dr calls this diet "orthomolecular" in Argentina Ortho is how is the ass hole called -d
I noticed my stools on this diet were pretty frequent, big and medium formed....
I didn´t go yesterday to the bathroom and neither today...that is very infrequent on me. When i eat carbs i go to the bathroom without any problems and very frecuently and tend to have loose and pale stools...but this kind of constipation fear me.
Within your point of view, it Seems that the only good thing this diet advocates is fatty fish and veggies.
Anyway there are a lot of people on the forums doing very low carb and not healing from candida....
Maybe they are not focusing on Raw low carb RPD
I have ordered Candex enzymes as one option i have it is to go high on raw green leafy veggies(blended and strained with water) + candex + raw animal foods for the bulk of my calorie intake. ( i am underweight this week lost 2 kilograms because i didn´t know what to eat)
I have been searching for a All grass feed distributor near my house.....but i have been told they finalice their meat on grains for about a month. I live in the coast line, so i can purchase good and fresh fish.
I have cravings for peanuts since 2 days ago. I don´t know why. Yesterday night i ate a bunch of them.
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After reading this I am thinking on sulfur deficiency
http://www.destination-healthy-foods.com/Sulfur-Rich-Foods.html (http://www.destination-healthy-foods.com/Sulfur-Rich-Foods.html)
Lot of symptoms here too.
And it seems that rich sulfur foods are those all you are advocating. And most are raw paleo ones.
How Sulfur Deficiency is Created
Sulfur has been known since ancient times for its healing abilities.
Sulfur is very involved with the production of collagen and collagen cannot be made without sulfur.
Sulfur is also very important in protecting your body from harmful toxins and heavy metals found in our environment.
There is no RDA for Sulfur, but your body uses up about 750 mg. of sulfur per day.
Most people are probably deficient in this mineral despite the adequate consumption of sulfur foods.
The depletion of our soils and bad animal husbandry practices mean that our fruits, vegetables, and factory farmed animal products usually have very little organic sulfur to give our bodies.
This sulfur is then further destroyed during cooking or pasteurization processes.
Properly grown and eaten sulfur rich foods will help to give your body this necessary mineral that literally helps to keep your form.
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I came here searching for answers to my illness.
I read, read and re read the forum (and still reading).
There are not 2 same persons.
I really aprecciate all your help.
Some of you reccomended a nearly zero carb diet to me.....i researched stories here on raw zero carb and found a lot of failed stories.....Yuri, BBQ, Brady, michael, little elephant and way more. Also there are a lot of succes stories. But problems like tiredness, weak adrenals etc are common among this zero carbers.
Iguana advocated me the instinto way. He put me in contact with a french guy that would help me. But again, i read some failed stories on anopsology (little elephant) and feared of it so i didn´t do it yet. I think i will overdo on fruits and fats....because that are my cravings. I dont watch myself smelling and going for a raw meat without seasoning. On my last experiments....if i ate fruits and fats (nuts or whatever fat) i will reach diarrea that i am guessing if maybe that is my goal (reach diarrhea so my body could detox itself but also it could got dehidrated too) EDITED: I mean...if i eat raw fats and raw carbs (apples and coconut/nuts) i reach diarrhea.....but if i eat cooked fats and carbs (bread with butter or olive oil or even nuts) i dont reach diarrhea. I just reach soft and pale stools.....will this mean anything?
Some people had reccomended me a totally raw milk/kefir diet to repopulate the gut.
Some other people say diet will not be all, and that your way of living is more important.
So i am a little bit more confused right now and not know how to act or what to do. I heve been reading almost all journals and didnt find a patch that matched for me.
Also, I have a friend with candida/symptoms like mine´s.....After trying all type of diets he become desesperated, crying all day....Then he has been doing IF but eating normal (cooked meat, cooked fish, some rice, some beans, coconut oil, nuts, salads, fermented veggies, little fruit...)
He has been drinking during 3 months 1 to 3 liters of his own urine and doing one enema daily. Yo would not believe the stuff that has been coming out of her ass.....Strings like mines, then roots and more awfull shit....His tongue went completely pink first week of doing it....and he feels more focused, energetic and calm too.
This is not that i dont want to eat raw meat/organs and so on....i think i will eat whatever in order to scape from this big hole i entered when i read about candida, decided that i was a candidiasistic person since childhood and changed my diet to whole grains, salads, and nuts...then continually changing it.....my life become more and more stressed (you know, social meetings, doing shopping...doing sprouts, kefir, water kefir....etc etc...)
Anyway...thank you a lot for all your answers and blessings to you. It is clear that all of you love to help othe rpeople.
I will write here or i will start a journal once i decided what to do with my live and eating patterns.
Best regards to all of you
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This are candida (or what i think it is) released during my water fast....anyone knows this alien?
That is mucus.