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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => Health => Topic started by: A_Tribe_Called_Paleo on December 12, 2014, 12:31:11 pm
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It's been 7 days since my last solid bowel movement.
I tried castrol oil, only liquid came out(sorry...). VCO cleanse did not work either. The past 2 days I've eaten nothing but bananas, avocados, and grass fed bulgarian yogurt, still nothing. Any ideas! This is getting very serious! I do not own an enema kit.
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Have you tried eating something very solid such as raw suet? What about raw tongue?
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What is raw suet exactly? And how would it help? I don't know where to find tongue. Im living in nj at the moment, and Eatwild didn't provide anything close to me.
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Please clarify: Are you saying that you haven't had a solid bowel movement in a week, but that it's coming out as diarrhea? Or nothing at all has come out for a week?
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Nothing solid has come out at all. Only bowel movement I've had was triggered by castrol oil and it was pure liquid, not dhiarrea. It was green sometimes yellow water...
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Cassia fistula may be necessary to us, especially when shifting to a normal diet (raw paleo) after decades of cooked food. This has already been talked about several times here and even again recently: do a search!
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What is raw suet exactly? And how would it help? I don't know where to find tongue. Im living in nj at the moment, and Eatwild didn't provide anything close to me.
Raw suet is the fat around the kidneys. It is very dry and solid. I have sometimes found that eating foods low in water-content gave me more solid stools.
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Did you try the olive oil ENEMA? vco ENEMA?
Do you have an enema bucket?
500 ml or less should do it.
Hold for 15 mins at least.
You had better get yourself an enema kit immediately.
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how did you got that blockage? what was the food you were eating 7 - 8 days ago and in the last week? do you remember?
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how did you got that blockage? what was the food you were eating 7 - 8 days ago and in the last week? do you remember?
Before last week I was eating a cooked paleo diet, eggs for breakfast lots of turkey/chicken salads for lunch and dinner, little bit of raw cheese here n there. Then I tried eating raw fat from grass fe lamb/beef. I think I made the mistake of eating raw veggies(asparagus,kale,cabbage) with the fat. This is what I believe caused the blockage.
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Did you try the olive oil ENEMA? vco ENEMA?
Do you have an enema bucket?
500 ml or less should do it.
Hold for 15 mins at least.
You had better get yourself an enema kit immediately.
I haven't tried enema yet because I know absolutely nothing about them. I do know how to perform them or own an enema kit. I Havnt had time to research because of work shedule. Any recommendations on what jut I should buy? Probably going to use amazon.
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Ask at a pharmacy. You could use a Fleet enema this once just to get things moving, and get a better treatment later. You won't find cassia fistula easily.
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Ask at a pharmacy. You could use a Fleet enema this once just to get things moving, and get a better treatment later. You won't find cassia fistula easily.
Ok, ill go to local pharmacy and ask for fleet enema
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By "ask at a pharmacy," I meant talk to a pharmacist about what might work best for you, given your needs and knowledge about yourself. Plus, Fleet has multiple enemas with different ingredients, so there isn't a single "Fleet enema" and the pharmacist could help you choose the best among them for you, or perhaps recommend something else. Internet forums and blogs should be considered as sources for ideas, filtered through what you know about yourself and your own thinking and what's comfortable for you, not prescriptions to follow blindly. If you want someone to prescribe something to you, then you'll need to talk to a healthcare practitioner. Good luck with whatever you choose to do.
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I was thinking along those lines, too. Specifically, when you have severe constipation, the lower stools get drier and drier, while the nether stools stay very watery. If the dried-out stool is too big and hard to come out, the watery stools may pass around it because of the build-up of pressure above the blockage.
Do you have discomfort? If you're not sure about how to do an enema, maybe you have a nice friend who is a nurse who can help you do an enema without thinking you're an idiot? There are professional colon hydrotherapists who can help, too. Youtube has a lot of how-to videos, even with topics like enemas.
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Ooops, I deleted my above post about encopresis that eveheart referred to, and decided to PM it instead, as it's not a pleasant topic.
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Here is another way to easily introduce the castor oil without drinking it.
Make a small cloth pad, say 6" square. Maybe fold a face cloth. Then put some castor oil on it, so it is damp. Then lay down and put the pad over the lower abdomen area and then place a hot water bottle over the pad. Lay there for an hour or two or as long as you can. Watch TV or something.
This will soak the CO into the skin and cleanse the immediate area of toxins and the motivate the dump system ;) of the body.
http://www.iodinesource.com/Products.php#CastorOilPacks (http://www.iodinesource.com/Products.php#CastorOilPacks)
Just for the record, you should be heading to the toilet a bare minimum of once per day always. Any lesser amount means your diet is in trouble.
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Dissolve about 6-8 TABLESPOONS of unrefined sea salt (celtic gray or fleur de sel, ideally, although any salt will work) in about 1 quart/liter of warm water. Drink it quickly, within 10 minutes or so. Repeat this every 30 minutes until you poop.
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Dissolve about 6-8 TABLESPOONS of unrefined sea salt (celtic gray or fleur de sel, ideally, although any salt will work) in about 1 quart/liter of warm water. Drink it quickly, within 10 minutes or so. Repeat this every 30 minutes until you poop.
This saline bowel flush is the one I would use because it has never caused me cramping. The salt water does not get into your bloodstream, it just washes through you and empties your bowels on its way out. You can spend a while on the toilet, so don't do this when you have to go out.
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I was thinking along those lines, too. Specifically, when you have severe constipation, the lower stools get drier and drier, while the nether stools stay very watery. If the dried-out stool is too big and hard to come out, the watery stools may pass around it because of the build-up of pressure above the blockage.
Do you have discomfort? If you're not sure about how to do an enema, maybe you have a nice friend who is a nurse who can help you do an enema without thinking you're an idiot? There are professional colon hydrotherapists who can help, too. Youtube has a lot of how-to videos, even with topics like enemas.
Yes, there is discomfort an abdominal pain. I don't know anyone in the health industry.
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At 12am EST, right before going to bed, I took 5 table spoons of Castor oil and had some Gaia Rapid Relief Herbal Tea. At about 330/4am i awoke and had severe liquid bowel movements for the next hour or so. There was lots of in digested food chunks(I need to chew my foods more, always been a problem), and other things I could not make out. What bothered be most was the endless gurgling sound coming from intestines/stomach? It does not sound healthy at all! Would it be safe to assume I have leaky/ a damaged gut or intestines?
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Definitely had a white film(literally looked like bacteria culture in kombucha drinks) in my bowel movements. Described it to my brother, he thinks it's candida over growth.
Anyone think there's a possibility this 8 day battle was triggered by a worms/parasite from raw lamb/beef fat I tried eating from whole foods? I was completely cooked paleo before.
For the next month or so i think I will only eat the most digestible foods I can find. Raw eggs, raw honey, bananas, avocados, VCO, maybe a nut butter? Do you guys think yogurt(pasteurized)/redwood hill goat kefir would help? Any other food suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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parasites/worms
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My young boy had pockets / diverticulitis in his large intestines.
We fixed the with Barefoot Herbalist MH's LBB capsules for 60 days.
He then pooped like a champ.
Parasites / worms as above is another angle.
There are probably more possibilities.
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parasites/worms
Care to elaborate?
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At 12am EST, right before going to bed, I took 5 table spoons of Castor oil and had some Gaia Rapid Relief Herbal Tea. At about 330/4am i awoke and had severe liquid bowel movements for the next hour or so. There was lots of in digested food chunks(I need to chew my foods more, always been a problem), and other things I could not make out. What bothered be most was the endless gurgling sound coming from intestines/stomach? It does not sound healthy at all! Would it be safe to assume I have leaky/ a damaged gut or intestines?
Castor oil is a bowel stimulant, and you took more than the maximum adult dose. The Gaia tea has senna, also a bowel stimulant. These types of stimulants work by gentle (or not) irritation of the bowel tract. All that gurgling and mucus indicates that your remedies worked the way they are supposed to work. I would refrain from prescribing a diet based on your reaction to bowel stimulants. It would be best if you tried eating a "normal" raw paleo diet. By normal, I mean that, despite our individual differences in taste and climate, we here all seem to eat basically the same way. If we all went to a RPD potluck, we'd all enjoy the foods that everyone brought.
If you are worried about parasites, why not get a stool test to see if you have them. Certainly, you cannot expect us to know if you have them, but you can find plenty of discussions about ignoring parasites vs testing for parasites vs doing a broad-spectrum herbal parasiticide once or twice a year.
By all means, any condition such as leaky gut can begin to heal on a raw paleo diet. It can take a while, and you won't really "know" when the gut lining has been healed, but your improved health will let you know that you are getting better.
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Castor oil is a bowel stimulant, and you took more than the maximum adult dose. The Gaia tea has senna, also a bowel stimulant. These types of stimulants work by gentle (or not) irritation of the bowel tract. All that gurgling and mucus indicates that your remedies worked the way they are supposed to work. I would refrain from prescribing a diet based on your reaction to bowel stimulants. It would be best if you tried eating a "normal" raw paleo diet. By normal, I mean that, despite our individual differences in taste and climate, we here all seem to eat basically the same way. If we all went to a RPD potluck, we'd all enjoy the foods that everyone brought.
If you are worried about parasites, why not get a stool test to see if you have them. Certainly, you cannot expect us to know if you have them, but you can find plenty of discussions about ignoring parasites vs testing for parasites vs doing a broad-spectrum herbal parasiticide once or twice a year.
By all means, any condition such as leaky gut can begin to heal on a raw paleo diet. It can take a while, and you won't really "know" when the gut lining has been healed, but your improved health will let you know that you are getting better.
What would be served at RPD potluck? I'm lost when it comes to the question of what to eat? Raw eggs for breakfast? Raw meat for lunch and dinner? Any raw veggies?
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At 12am EST, right before going to bed, I took 5 table spoons of Castor oil and had some Gaia Rapid Relief Herbal Tea. At about 330/4am i awoke and had severe liquid bowel movements for the next hour or so. There was lots of in digested food chunks(I need to chew my foods more, always been a problem), and other things I could not make out. What bothered be most was the endless gurgling sound coming from intestines/stomach? It does not sound healthy at all! Would it be safe to assume I have leaky/ a damaged gut or intestines?
Castor oil is a rather harsh laxative, as you've experienced, which is why it was traditionally used only once or twice a year. If there was a blockage, then it's strange that it all came out liquid. At least you can rest assured that you don't have a blockage now. Perhaps you can now develop a less extreme diet that works for you. Exercise can also help to keep things moving.
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For the next month or so i think I will only eat the most digestible foods I can find. Raw eggs, raw honey, bananas, avocados, VCO, maybe a nut butter? Do you guys think yogurt(pasteurized)/redwood hill goat kefir would help? Any other food suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Nut butter seems like a bad idea, what is your experience? I have read many experiencces and have had my own with it being extremely hard to digest and also very inflammatory. Nuts are generally high in nutrients that feed yeast and other toxins due to processig and storage. Why not go for better sources of omega 3's and vital amino acids and nutrients such as fish, shellfish, oysters or offal and raw animal fats and meats? Raw, aged or even lightly cooked, I think these are far superior. Kefir tends to be more yeasty than yogurt but each person also react to it differently. The only pasturized yogurt I would ever really slightly vouch for is made by white mountain brand, it comes in glass and is organic, but not grass fed, the reason I think it's slightly better then other brands is the very low sugar content and that it works as an excellent culture to start raw milk yogurt.
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What would be served at RPD potluck? I'm lost when it comes to the question of what to eat? Raw eggs for breakfast? Raw meat for lunch and dinner? Any raw veggies?
Imagine you were just hanging around in your cave and you wanted a bite to eat. Think about what you would be able to find in your ancient environment. Then, go the market and find foods that are quite similar to what you would have found then. Hint: none of these foods come in packages, cans, boxes, or tins.
Right now in my fridge and pantry:
Beef femur and humurus bones
Lamb liver, beef eye of round, ground beef
rock cod, tuna, herring
various fermented vegetables
cauliflower, celery, onion, mushrooms, avocado, limes, olives
seaweeds: fucus, alaria, sea tangle, kelp, sea palm, laver
beef fat, coconut oil, butter
pine nuts, walnuts, pistachios
and already on my shopping list for when I go to my Korean supermarket:
Korean radish
salmon roe, clams, squid
leaves (I don't know what the h___ they are, but tasty)
and on thetree at my front door:
about 100 ripe oranges!
Almost everything sourced locally, except for tuna, herring, coconut oil, and salmon roe.
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I have pretty much the same type of inventory as eveheart.
Aged leg of lamb that I helped raise, the rest of it is in freezer as I was in between living in the field and findin a place to live for the winter when it was harvested. Very delicious, definitely the best lamb I've ever had. Lamb and beef liver and trim. A few jars raw kidney fat. Raw grass fed cow milk, pastured eggs, raw, local sour cream and raw goat brie. Onions, mushrooms, too much lettuce, radicchio, celery, pumpkin, pumpkin seeds(which I choose to toast), pasturized grass fed butter, homemade sauerkraut, carrots, purple sweet potato, dulse, bullwhip kelp, lemons, salt, garlic, tumeric, spirulina and spring water. Pretty simple, I am sure everyone would be able to find something to eat.
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You seem well stocked!
Think about what you would be able to find in your ancient environment. (…) Hint: none of these foods come in packages, cans, boxes, or tins.
Quite right… but...
coconut oil, butter
Really?
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The Redwood Hill Goats Milk Kefir is actually slightly lower in sugars (5g/240 ml) than White Mountain Foods organic Bulgarian Holstein cow's milk yogurt (6g/236 ml). I actually fare much better with the Redwood Hill kefir than the White Mountain yogurt (even though I had high hopes for the White Mountain, in part for some of the reasons Jessica mentioned). I suspect that part of the reason is I do much better generally with goat, sheep and Jersey cow dairy than Holstein cow dairy (which was a surprise to me, because I had been skeptical about the claims of A2 milk being superior to A1 milk and I grew up on cow's milk). As I often say, since people are different, the only way to know for sure what will work for you is to try out various foods yourself. No one can know how your body will react. What works best for me often doesn't fit other people's reports, expectations and theories.
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Also, commercial yogurt cannot be made raw, even if they start out with raw milk, because the milk must be heated to activate the thermophilic (heat-loving) yogurt bacteria strains. Kefir, on the other hand, is a natural raw food when made with raw milk, because kefir strains are mesophilic (grows at lower temperature).
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It can be so, though I'll warn raw purists that the Redwood Hill Farm kefir is pasteurized.
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Care to elaborate?
parasites/worms blocking your intestines...overload....
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Nut butter seems like a bad idea, what is your experience? I have read many experiencces and have had my own with it being extremely hard to digest and also very inflammatory. Nuts are generally high in nutrients that feed yeast and other toxins due to processig and storage.
I Havnt eaten but butter since on the SAD diet. I just assumed it was easily digestible because they're so processed. I don't remember having much of a problem. But I used to eat PB&Js everyday...
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There are much more less stressful means by which to promote regularity while transitioning into paleo. Though many flushes will work be it salt water, castor oil or laxative tea, etc.... these methods can be harsh, and deplete the gut of already diminished enzymes and probiotic factors. I have found that coconut works well for relieving constipation.
Next time you feel clogged up try to eat a whole coconut? It is a natural laxative.
Other nutritionally valuable foods like eggs and bone marrow seem to have a good effect on the bowls.
Though I am only in the second month of my latest experiment, I have had the most wonderful bowl movements since beginning to eat a few bites of blended sheep stomach before meals.
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There are much more less stressful means by which to promote regularity while transitioning into paleo. Though many flushes will work be it salt water, castor oil or laxative tea, etc.... these methods can be harsh, and deplete the gut of already diminished enzymes and probiotic factors. I have found that coconut works well for relieving constipation.
Next time you feel clogged up try to eat a whole coconut? It is a natural laxative.
Other nutritionally valuable foods like eggs and bone marrow seem to have a good effect on the bowls.
Though I am only in the second month of my latest experiment, I have had the most wonderful bowl movements since beginning to eat a few bites of blended sheep stomach before meals.
I've been speaking with a man named Barefoot herbalist. Since it's been 10 days now since I had a regular bowel movement, not brought on by a laxitive, he believes my problem is colon/intestinal shrinkage, and not constipation. He recommends I do not eat anything at all besides olive oil and water until I have regular bowel movements again. He warns that eating anything may rupture my colon.
I have just drank 2 Tbs of Epsom salt dissolved in 8oz of water. Hopefully this produces some type of bowel movement. If not, I will most likely head to the ER.
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This morning I woke up to a terrible taste in my mouth, and my breath smelled like actual sh*t. The bad breath has continued all day no matter what I do. It feels as if something is stuck in my throat. My theory is I digested rotting food is coming up the other way....
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Whoa! Epsom salts is another harsh laxative (one of the harshest forms of magnesium--which is why it's usually used externally, rather than internally) and 2 TBSPs is way more than the recommended laxative dose of 1 to 2 tsp. First overdosing on castor oil, now epsom salts. Why are you using a harsh laxative so soon after the last wash out? You are taking some serious risks. I can't imagine consuming so much castor oil and epsom salts and I find it hard to believe that anyone could take such huge doses and not have horrendous results. Sorry, but your posts are becoming increasingly strange and they smack of the sort of thing some trolls wrote in the past (not only this laxative stuff, but also past comments about parasites and Paleo being very costly, claims that eating meats raw that aren't 100% grass fed is risky, and a vegan video, and such). You've written the sort of bizarre things that vegan trolls tend to write. If you're telling the truth, then you are taking unecessary serious risks.
How should I take Magnesium Sulfate?
Magnesium Sulfate (Epsom Salt)
Use exactly as directed on the label, or as prescribed by your doctor.
Never use a higher dose of magnesium sulfate than recommended on the package label, or as your doctor has directed. Using too much magnesium sulfate can cause serious, life-threatening side effects.
http://www.everydayhealth.com/drugs/magnesium-sulfate#dosage (http://www.everydayhealth.com/drugs/magnesium-sulfate#dosage)
Is there a family member or someone you trust who you can discuss your extreme dieting and harsh laxative use with? And if you can afford going to the ER, then you presumably you can afford talking to a physician about it, yes?
Much of what you have been talking about and claiming you have been doing is not "Paleo" by any stretch of the imagination. Sabertooth and others are right that there are much more reasonable alternatives.
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Whoa! Epsom salts is another harsh laxative (one of the harshest forms of magnesium--which is why it's usually used externally, rather than internally) and 2 TBSPs is way more than the recommended laxative dose of 1 to 2 tsp. First overdosing on castor oil, now epsom salts. Why are you using a harsh laxative so soon after the last wash out? You are taking some serious risks. I can't imagine consuming so much castor oil and epsom salts and I find it hard to believe that anyone could take such huge doses and not have horrendous results. Sorry, but your posts are becoming increasingly strange and they smack of the sort of thing some trolls wrote in the past (not only this laxative stuff, but also past comments about parasites and Paleo being very costly and such). If you're telling the truth, then you are taking unecessary serious risks.Is there a family member or someone you trust who you can discuss your extreme dieting and harsh laxative use with? And if you can afford going to the ER, then you presumably you can afford talking to a physician about it, yes?
Much of what you have been talking about and claiming you have been doing is not "Paleo" by any stretch of the imagination. Sabertooth and others are right that there are much more reasonable alternatives.
I assure you, I am not trolling the slightest bit. I've been walking to my father about the situation. He is not very knowledgable about health. Recommended I drink coffee and take phyllium husk powder. Barefoot herbalist recommended I take 1-2 tbs epsom salt, and directions say adults over 12 years old can take 2-6 Tps. The reason I am takin more laxatives is because I still feel constipated. I am not having regular bowel movements yet either. Barefoot herbalist thinks I have a shrunken colon and advised me not to eat anything. He thinks eating anything could rupture my colon. I am lost and confused as to what to do now. If Epsom salt doesn't work I think it's wise to seek help from ER. I consider this a life threatening situaion?
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Tomorow morning I'm thinking of trying the VCO detox(2tbp every 2hourz) one more time. I also purchased "natural vitality calm magnesium supplement "
Think of taking it in the morning aswell. Or would that be over board?
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I assure you, I am not trolling the slightest bit. I've been walking to my father about the situation. He is not very knowledgable about health. Recommended I drink coffee and take phyllium husk powder. Barefoot herbalist recommended I take 1-2 tbs epsom salt, and directions say adults over 12 years old can take 2-6 Tps. The reason I am takin more laxatives is because I still feel constipated. I am not having regular bowel movements yet either. Barefoot herbalist thinks I have a shrunken colon and advised me not to eat anything. He thinks eating anything could rupture my colon. I am lost and confused as to what to do now. If Epsom salt doesn't work I think it's wise to seek help from ER. I consider this a life threatening situaion?
I've never heard of advice like what the Barefoot herbalist gave. It sounds bizarre. How can he possibly diagnose that over the Internet? You reported that you just cleaned yourself out. How could you be impacted again already? Have you had any strong nausea, vomiting, fever, or signs of herniation? What are the symptoms you think are life threatening? Taking too much Epsom salts can be life threatening, according to instructions for it. Does your father think you need to go to the ER? If you think there's an urgent health problem that's not immediate, you could call your doctor's office for advice. It sounds like you think it could wait until tomorrow, yes? If so, you could call during business hours.
VCO, Natural Calm, coffee and psyllium are less harsh than high dose Epsom salts, but I still don't understand why you think you're impacted aside from feelings.
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I've never heard of advice like what the Barefoot herbalist gave. It sounds bizarre. How can he possibly diagnose that over the Internet? You reported that you just cleaned yourself out. How could you be impacted again already? Have you had any strong nausea, vomiting, fever, or signs of herniation? What are the symptoms you think are life threatening? Taking too much Epsom salts can be life threatening, according to instructions for it. Does your father think you need to go to the ER? If you think there's an urgent health problem that's not immediate, you could call your doctor's office for advice. It sounds like you think it could wait until tomorrow, yes? If so, you could call during business hours.
VCO, Natural Calm, coffee and psyllium are less harsh than high dose Epsom salts, but I still don't understand why you think you're impacted aside from feelings.
I had bowel movements with castor oil, but I don't believe I was completely cleaned out. I still feel constipated. My father think I should visit ER. Yes, i can wait till tomorow.
I don't have any of those symptoms. I'm just worried that this constipation will cause my apendix to burst, rupture my colon.
Do you think ill be ok with dose of Epsom salt i took? It's been 2 hours and still nothing.
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I had bowel movements with castor oil, but I don't believe I was completely cleaned out.
There is no "completely cleaned out" because the bowels have a cycle. They should never be empty, even when you fast with nothing but water.
I'm just worried that this constipation will cause my apendix to burst, rupture my colon.
Constipation does not readily cause the appendix to burst, and the colon does not rupture in normal usage, even if you are constipated.
The correct dose for Epson salts is NOT 2T in 8 oz water! Ugh, how can you even drink that down?
There are truly many conditions that can exist in the colon, such as diverticula, strictures, and leaky gut syndrome. None of them should be treated with relentless laxative abuse.
The common definition of constipation is dry stools that are hard to pass. Have you passed one of these, perhaps with anal tearing so you see a little blood? Because I am beginning to doubt even your report that you are constipated. If you want a well-formed stool, you're going to have to let it happen by eating right. Then, if your colon seems a little sluggish, take a normal dose of a gentle laxative, and find out which laxative works the gentlest for you. The colon wall is complex and it does many jobs, but if you keep ripping at it with laxative abuse, you won't get good results.
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Constipation does not readily cause the appendix to burst, and the colon does not rupture in normal usage, even if you are constipated.
Barefoot herbalist thinks my colon has shrunk. Could it rupture by eating then?
The correct dose for Epson salts is NOT 2T in 8 oz water! Ugh, how can you even drink that down?
There are truly many conditions that can exist in the colon, such as diverticula, strictures, and leaky gut syndrome. None of them should be treated with relentless laxative abuse.
I believe I have leaky gut. Maine reason I started paleo. My inner abdominal wall is very week from SAD diet. My father also pointed pointed out I could have pelvic floor dysfunction.
The common definition of constipation is dry stools that are hard to pass. Have you passed one of these, perhaps with anal tearing so you see a little blood? Because I am beginning to doubt even your report that you are constipated. If you want a well-formed stool, you're going to have to let it happen by eating right. Then, if your colon seems a little sluggish, take a normal dose of a gentle laxative, and find out which laxative works the gentlest for you. The colon wall is complex and it does many jobs, but if you keep ripping at it with laxative abuse, you won't get good results.
I have not passed a dry or solid stool in 10 days now. My condition could be a shrunk colon, or pelvic floor dysfunction. I really don't know.
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Epsom salt is kind of working. Mostly brown/green water with very small pieces of excrement(about the size of a chocolate chip/m&m). Not the solid formed stools I was looking for. Should buy me time before I have to possibly go to ER. Will start Coconut oil cleanse tomorrow morning, unless anyone has any better options.
I don't think my gut is ready to eat raw meat/fat yet. It is very week and I may need to build up to it. I should be able to stomach raw eggs, and maybe raw milk would help? Also considering juicing, as digesting these fiber rich veggies seems to be too taxing on my gut.
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My situation may not apply to you, however it has similarities and may be of interest: I used to get constipated when eating modern carbs - and sometimes even fruit - and I agree with your father as I found coffee and psyllium husk powder were very helpful.
(I still have a half teaspoon of psyllium husk power each day with two tablespoons of potato starch powder)
Sometimes back then enemas were the only way I could get things moving. I found that the simplest method was to have a bucket of warm slightly salty water, our warm coffee, on a table with a thin tube siphoning down.
Personally I have found that raw paleo with heaps of raw vegetables to work very well, especially when combined with other life enhancing thoughts and actions.
As Eveheart has wisely pointed out in another post there is complex relationship between the gut and our mental state, which feed back on reach other, so anything we can do to improve our state of mind and heart is useful.
I am enjoying learning ancient Chinese energy cultivation techniques, where the main mental focus is to visualise that you are clear and glowing yellow inside your body, and are collecting energy (Qi) from the abundant universe (QiGon and Ren Xue).
I find that fresh herbs, dark leafy vegetables, and weeds are the best way to rebalance my gut.
Also in my cafe staying away from all sugars and all cooked carbs was very useful, while increasing raw vegetables.
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Personally I have found that raw paleo with heaps of raw vegetables to work very well, especially when combined with other life enhancing thoughts and actions.
I find that fresh herbs, dark leafy vegetables, and weeds are the best way to rebalance my gut.
Also in my cafe staying away from all sugars and all cooked carbs was very useful, while increasing raw vegetables.
Interesting, I thought raw vegetables and raw meat together would be a terrible combination as they would most likely have completely different digestive processes?
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One advice I would give you if you decide to get an MRI, is to sign a waver to avoid the use of coloring DYE in your blood. It can sometimes severely damage people's kidneys. My son had intussusception and we did not let him get injected with the blood DYE and they were able to read the MRI results.
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Interesting, I thought raw vegetables and raw meat together would be a terrible combination as they would most likely have completely different digestive processes?
If we had to separate our proteins, fats, and carbohydrates for the purpose of good digestion, we couldn't eat anything from the natural world, because most natural food is composed of more than one macronutrient.
Epsom salt is kind of working. Mostly brown/green water with very small pieces of excrement(about the size of a chocolate chip/m&m). Not the solid formed stools I was looking for.
How can you expect a laxative to give you a solid, formed stool, especially when you are overdosing on laxatives?
If you do have strictures (shrunken portions of colon), loops, rectocele, or some other colon deformation, overdoses of laxatives are the LAST thing that a doctor would prescribe. Colon obstruction or deformity is not made better by forcing yourself to have diarrhea.
VERY URGENT: in your post http://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/health/intestinal-blockage/msg126526/#msg126526 (http://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/health/intestinal-blockage/msg126526/#msg126526), you quoted me as saying that I've consulted Barefood Herbalist and have leaky gut. Neither is true. I think you have typed your statements in the "quote" box. Please edit or delete that post!
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Interesting, I thought raw vegetables and raw meat together would be a terrible combination as they would most likely have completely different digestive processes?
Raw food digests in a different way than cooked.
Basically cooked takes a lot more energy to process in the gut. Also it is nutrient free to a large extent. We reduced our food intake quite a bit when we went all raw.
I wouldn't be concerned about food combining, but it you are, then eat the veges first, wait 15 - 20 minutes then eat the meat. That separation will negate the combining issues.
BTW I would stick to changing your diet to about 50/50 for awhile so your gut can adjust to the raw diet. Maybe 1/2 your meals raw and 1/2 cooked, till you start to acclimatize. We went 100% into it and it took about 6 months to acclimatize.
Right out of the gate eat raw fats. That can include meat fats and butter. If you have difficulty with raw butter then obviously stop.
Eve,
Gotta say I am jealous that you have oranges in the back yard. Best we can do is peaches.
I went around in the springtime with a small artists brush and pollinated it and we had a gi-normous crop this year. The mason bees were not flying early enough to do it properly.
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Right out of the gate eat raw fats. That can include meat fats and butter. If you have difficulty with raw butter then obviously stop.
I believe raw animal fat is what triggered this shrunken bowel/constipation... So why would you recommend I do it again. I do not think my gut is strong enough to digest raw animal meat/fat right now... I don't think I should be eating anything right now, as my digestive system is to weak to eliminate it... I'm confused as to why no one else sees it this way. You are all suggesting I EAT MORE to cure this shrunk colon/constipation? Even more outrageous is suggesting I eat the very thing that caused the problem. This makes no sense to me. I would rather completely eliminate my system, heal my gut, strengthen it, and then gradually proceed into raw paleo.
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I'm confused as to why no one else sees it this way.
Well, I can't see it your way because my experience was the exact opposite.
Why do you need others to see it your way? Like they say, there's more than one way to skin a cat.
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If we had to separate our proteins, fats, and carbohydrates for the purpose of good digestion, we couldn't eat anything from the natural world, because most natural food is composed of more than one macronutrient.
How can you expect a laxative to give you a solid, formed stool, especially when you are overdosing on laxatives?
If you do have strictures (shrunken portions of colon), loops, rectocele, or some other colon deformation, overdoses of laxatives are the LAST thing that a doctor would prescribe. Colon obstruction or deformity is not made better by forcing yourself to have diarrhea.
VERY URGENT: in your post http://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/health/intestinal-blockage/msg126526/#msg126526 (http://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/health/intestinal-blockage/msg126526/#msg126526), you quoted me as saying that I've consulted Barefood Herbalist and have leaky gut. Neither is true. I think you have typed your statements in the "quote" box. Please edit or delete that post!
Sorry i miss typed my response in the quote box. I don't see an edit option anywhere.
I thought laxative would pass through at the least liquid stool diarrhea. So far epsom salt has just expelled green/yellow water mostly. Castor oil worked much better.
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Well, I can't see it your way because my experience was the exact opposite.
Why do you need others to see it your way? Like they say, there's more than one way to skin a cat.
You're right.
I'm just thinking
Constipated?--->eat less
makes more sense than
Constipated?---> eat more
Especially if I do have a shrunken colon. It makes sense more food could rupture it.
Especially raw animal meats/fats. I think for now i should stick to water, coconut oil/olive oil, and if I feel well enough fruit juices. Id like to try yogurt/kefir but fear it may be to dense for my damaged gut right now.
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All food is liquid, called chyme, by the time it exits your stomach. (Yes, there are exceptions due to things not working well.) At pretty much the end of the transit, water is absorbed from the chyme. A well-functioning colon will make well-formed stools by eliminating all but the right amount of water. Constipation means that too much water has been removed. Diarrhea means that not enough water has been removed. (That's why people get dehydrated from diarrhea.)
Your whole digestive tract, from mouth to anus, depends on a bazillion different functions, starting with the smell of food, it's taste, the physiobiology of chewing, and the mystifying number of biochemical signals that tell each cell what to do.
Let's say you want to take juices. Then, you are depriving yourself of one of the first digestive signals, chewing. The tongue is a rich array of sensors that trigger chemical processes later on in the stomach. If you drink juice, you're saying, "Screw you, stomach, I'm going to dump some shit in you, and you won't have a clue what to do with it!"
Other dietary extremes wreak other kinds of havoc, like unbalancing your colon's bacteria types, losing or retaining water, or upsetting the mineral balance in your body.
I'd say: Constipated > eat normal amounts of food.
Normal amounts never mean "full" or "stuffed." Eat until "satisfied."
Then, once everything is going well, you can see what comes out.
P.S. I've had pelvic floor dysfunction. I had an operation for it when I was in my 40s. It came back, but never bothers me since I've been eating raw paleo style. I've also have autoimmune issues in my gut, but the usual symptoms have completely healed on this diet.
I switched, cold turkey, from cooked food to RPD. I started feeling better from day one.
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All food is liquid, called chyme, by the time it exits your stomach. (Yes, there are exceptions due to things not working well.) At pretty much the end of the transit, water is absorbed from the chyme. A well-functioning colon will make well-formed stools by eliminating all but the right amount of water. Constipation means that too much water has been removed. Diarrhea means that not enough water has been removed. (That's why people get dehydrated from diarrhea.)
Your whole digestive tract, from mouth to anus, depends on a bazillion different functions, starting with the smell of food, it's taste, the physiobiology of chewing, and the mystifying number of biochemical signals that tell each cell what to do.
Let's say you want to take juices. Then, you are depriving yourself of one of the first digestive signals, chewing. The tongue is a rich array of sensors that trigger chemical processes later on in the stomach. If you drink juice, you're saying, "Screw you, stomach, I'm going to dump some shit in you, and you won't have a clue what to do with it!"
Other dietary extremes wreak other kinds of havoc, like unbalancing your colon's bacteria types, losing or retaining water, or upsetting the mineral balance in your body.
I'd say: Constipated > eat normal amounts of food.
Normal amounts never mean "full" or "stuffed." Eat until "satisfied."
Then, once everything is going well, you can see what comes out.
P.S. I've had pelvic floor dysfunction. I had an operation for it when I was in my 40s. It came back, but never bothers me since I've been eating raw paleo style. I've also have autoimmune issues in my gut, but the usual symptoms have completely healed on this diet.
I switched, cold turkey, from cooked food to RPD. I started feeling better from day one.
I believe my gut is so damaged and clogged that I must take nutrients via juicing/liquid forum. I think it's so weak it cannot digest solid foods atm. I wish I could eat the healing foods that RPD provides. But at this point is risk rupturing my colon.
I wouldn't call my bowel movements dhiarrea. They are literally 98% liquid, best way I can describe is green/yellow water. My colon is eliminating in a small stream the width of a straw. This is my I am going with Barefoot Herbalists theory of a shrunken colon. No matter what solid food I ate, I don't think it would make it out.
I suspect the intestinal blockage is so bad, any water I consume is simply passing around the stool.
I am thinking of taking a stool softener. But the ingredients don't look very good, lots of chemicals. I am amazon priming an enema kit, hopefully that will work. Until I have normal bowel movements without outside help, I don't think I should eat solid foods. As I risk the blockage reoccuring.
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Ayurveda says that you should answer the call of nature ASAP. By holding off you cause the GIT to absorb more moisture from the waste. This makes it dryer and that means that it will pass a lot less easily. The longer you hold it the harder it gets. Over time this damages the area making the whole process even more problematic.
Urine should be passed ASAP for the same reason. Holding it back, because 'it is not convenient right now' will aggravate your bladder and everything in the area including the prostate.
Another thing that aggravates the whole system is not exercising at all. Going for a 20 minute walk after a meal will do wonders for digestion, excretion, joy de vivre etc..
The massaging of the gut from walking or any gentle exercise like TaiChi or Yoga helps the peristaltic action of the GIT to move stuff along.
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Once the current emergency is over, this is what Ayurveda says to look for with your feces;
If it is black small and hard, consistently, then you are very pitta so you should follow a Pitta diet. Basically your digestion is very strong and in effect your food gets over-cooked by your digestion.
If it is alternately hard and soft meaning black rocks and then pale slush, you have a variable digestion and should eat more meals per day in smaller amounts and you are vata which means you should follow a Vata diet.
If it is soft mainly and maybe light in colour you should eat on time, less and you are probably Kapha and so should follow a K diet.
However when you eat raw, I have discovered, these rules tend to go out the window, as raw food digests much easier. However a certain amount of the rules are still true, especially if you are in a pickle like now.
Bear in mind that internet diagnosing is not that reliable, however I tried to make it simple.
Ayurvedic food guidelines, 6 pages http://ayurveda.com/pdf/food-guidelines.pdf (http://ayurveda.com/pdf/food-guidelines.pdf)
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Today I are nothing but coconut oil, And drank water with lemon and fine himilayan pink salt. Starting at 8am, consuming 2 tbps every 2 hours. As 6:30 approaches it will be my 12th tbp. No bowel movements yet today.
It feels as if something is caught in my throat, and my breath smells like actual sh*t. I can't smell it but my brother keeps telling me. I do have a foul taste in my mouth for past several days.
Putting order in for Enema kit tonight. Any suggestions on which kit to purchase(using amazon).
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See through plastic seems good so you can see the fluid level by yourself. It is so cheap you should buy more than 1.
If you live with family, each family member must have his own enema kit, write your names on them with pentel pens.
My own boy's gut was so damaged he could not poop by himself.
What we did was we gave him Barefoot Herbalist MH's LBB Capsules every day (his activation dose was 1 capsule) and he was able to poop without assistance daily... for 60 days... then he became a pooping champion.
(before the capsules, we had to give him an enema water or oil to get his poop).
http://oldfashionedspices.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=445 (http://oldfashionedspices.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=445)
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have you had any carbohydrates for a while? when your body starts using ketones its produces foul smelling breathe...do you think that might be the cause?
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Today I are nothing but coconut oil, And drank water with lemon and fine himilayan pink salt. Starting at 8am, consuming 2 tbps every 2 hours. As 6:30 approaches it will be my 12th tbp. No bowel movements yet today.
It feels as if something is caught in my throat, and my breath smells like actual sh*t. I can't smell it but my brother keeps telling me. I do have a foul taste in my mouth for past several days.
Putting order in for Enema kit tonight. Any suggestions on which kit to purchase(using amazon).
Difficult to say on the internet, but it is possible there is nothing in there to expel? in which case it might help to eat. If you do not eat, your breath will smell pretty bad.
Re: the enema bag, they are very cheap at any drugstore. In fact, if push comes to shove, you could grab a plastic bread type bag and glue some sort of small hose to it and use that, but of course a real one would be more comfortable because the tube end has a small restrictor, so the fluid comes out the side of the tube to prevent it from rushing in too fast, which especially if it is your first time might give you a bit of a shock :o . Slower is definitely better and hold it in as long as you can. Use a high quality coffee for the fluid.
BTW coffee enemas used to be in the Merck Manual up to around the 1970's till the medical mafia realized they cut down on their business selling drugs and so forth so they suddenly stopped mentioning them. Lots of stuff has gone that way. Can't have PPL getting well.
This gal shows it well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9x_eJS9s7c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9x_eJS9s7c)
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have you had any carbohydrates for a while? when your body starts using ketones its produces foul smelling breathe...do you think that might be the cause?
No I eat zero carbs. Last 2 days I've only eaten olive oil/ coconut oil.
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yeah you probably just have horrible "keto" breathe. you may want to be sure you are drinking fluids with plenty of electrolytes, especially potassium and magnesium. this is when broths and seaweeds come in very handy. when you blood glucose drops your body will flush out whatever excess fluids it was holding onto and your electrolytes can run low and become imbalanced. many suffer from headaches, low energy , foul mood, and hydration issues. getting enough of these minerals ensures that your body will maintain proper hydration, including in your bowels and stool.
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yeah you probably just have horrible "keto" breathe. you may want to be sure you are drinking fluids with plenty of electrolytes, especially potassium and magnesium. this is when broths and seaweeds come in very handy. when you blood glucose drops your body will flush out whatever excess fluids it was holding onto and your electrolytes can run low and become imbalanced. many suffer from headaches, low energy , foul mood, and hydration issues. getting enough of these minerals ensures that your body will maintain proper hydration, including in your bowels and stool.
Looks like I'll be picking up some coconut water, or water melon tomorrow.
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some fruits that make people move:
papaya, water melon, melon, pineapples, coconut meat
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some fruits that make people move:
papaya, water melon, melon, pineapples, coconut meat
Ok, thank you for suggestion. I was feeling very weak last night from not eating much for past 3 days. Brother convinced me to drink some goat kefir(not raw). This morning...no intestinal pain, but no bowel movement either. Going to Urgen care in a couple hours.
I also purchased a rite aid brand stool softener. Docusate sodium 100mg capsules. Might be worth a try in a day or two.
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I also purchased a rite aid brand stool softener. Docusate sodium 100mg capsules. Might be worth a try in a day or two.
I've used ducosate sodium only once and found that it produces some kind of "paste" that is nowhere near the consistency of solid stool.
I'm glad you are going to urgent care. The two diagnoses that your herbalist suggested are so different in cause and treatment. Pelvic floor dysfunction is a mechanical problem, blockages and strictures are more complicated. Also, I think you need to talk to a doctor and get a definitive diagnosis. Finding your own diagnosis online is difficult because you lack the diagnostic tools like lab tests or x-rays to make a good differential diagnosis. Not to mention that you've never seen what common ailments look like, so you have no point of reference.
I never used to go to the doctor because I didn't want medical treatment. I've changed my mind - I'll go to the doctor for the diagnosis and then decide how I want to treat the problem. After all, doctors can't arrest you and make you follow medical treatment. In many cases, you will astonish your doctors by how much you can heal with nutrition. If you can't heal yourself, you trudge back to the doctor and admit she was right.
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Doctor claimed I successfully cleared myself with castor oil/Epsom salts. Prescribed murilax. Don't know much about it, can anyone recommend?
Today I took a magnesium suppliment from natural vitality. I finally had my first solid bowel movement in who knows how long(2 weeks+)... I think ill cofounder taking it daily, unless there are any side effects from prolong use I'm unaware of?
I still haven't tried taking stool softener yet, very tempted.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyethylene_glycol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyethylene_glycol) will give you an idea about the polymer polyethylene glycol. While there are naturally occurring polymers, PEG is a synthetic plastic. Miralax's website http://www.miralax.com/miralax/why-miralax/how-miralax-works.jspa (http://www.miralax.com/miralax/why-miralax/how-miralax-works.jspa) says that
Water is vital to your body for healthy living, and to help your digestive system stay regular. Constipation may occur when stool moves slowly through the colon, which could allow too much water to be removed. This can make the stool hard, dry, and difficult to pass.
MiraLAX® contains Polyethylene Glycol 3350, which is a completely different way to treat occasional constipation. It activates water to work in 3 ways - hydrating, easing and softening - to unblock your system naturally.
Reading between the lines, it looks to me as if this large molecule of PEG is a mild irritant to keep things moving a little faster through the colon, before the stool can dry out. If it were me, I'd take magnesium supplement over polymers any day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dioctyl_sodium_sulfosuccinate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dioctyl_sodium_sulfosuccinate) is in stool softeners. It is a surfactant. Surfactants are commonly used in laundry detergent as wetting agents.
Manufacturers of DSS products claim that their products are the natural way to relieve constipation, which I think means that the water they hold in the stool is a natural way to relieve constipation: they work by making your stool "wetter." If it were me, I'd take magnesium supplement over laundry detergent any day.
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Polyethylene glycol (PEG) is one of the most disastrous things I've ever been prescribed. Over time it depleted me of electrolytes, such as potassium, and I developed the worst toe cramps I've ever had, with one of my toes frequently painfully spasming, resulting in it pointing backwards straight up toward the ceiling.
I find Natural Vitality's Natural Calm magnesium to be far superior to PEG/Miralax.
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I find the lack of mentioning of gut flora in the replies very concerning
I just recently had some constipation issue with no resolving from eating raw + doing various supplementation and cleanses
I resolved it by providing myself with plenty of soluble fiber and probiotic supplements (In form of fermented vegetable and soil-based organisms), and now the issue has been resolved somewhat. I believe the reason for intestinal blockage to be the low-carb diet we seem to follow yet not considering the consequence of having killed off some bacteria in our gut system.
But I also want to say this is just speculation right now as I've only resolved this issue two days ago
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I find the lack of mentioning of gut flora in the replies very concerning
I just recently had some constipation issue with no resolving from eating raw + doing various supplementation and cleanses
I resolved it by providing myself with plenty of soluble fiber and probiotic supplements (In form of fermented vegetable and soil-based organisms), and now the issue has been resolved somewhat. I believe the reason for intestinal blockage to be the low-carb diet we seem to follow yet not considering the consequence of having killed off some bacteria in our gut system.
But I also want to say this is just speculation right now as I've only resolved this issue two days ago
I will definently be eliminating vegetables such as kale , spinach, and broccoli. I definitely will try adding fermented cabbage, beets, and carrots. Also maybe some sweet potatoes, steamed possibly, I don't know if you can eat raw.
I think people were under the assumption that raw meat/fat would heal my gut flora. I don't think I have a healthy enough gut to consume raw meat at this time.
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I think he is saying that aged and high meats might add to the beneficial bacteria biodiversity within your gut and perhaps aid your healing. If made correctly high meat super potent and one only needs a small morsel at the benefits from the bacteria and enzymes. It's probably one of the only ways to populate ones gut with the bacteria that are native decomposers of meats.
This isn't to suggest you only eat high meats, but just to add them to your diet to help you have a gain a more comprehensive ability to digest and to receive the plentiful nutrients that are available in dense amounts in raw meats, especially organs.
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Congrats on your early success badboy9311. I agree that the gut microbiome is important (as anyone who reads my posts knows, and I hope I haven't beaten the topic to death :) ). A_Tribe_Called_Paleo mentioned taking psyllium husk powder, which can help carry prebiotics to the distal end of the colon, and to some extent also ferment and act like a prebiotic itself. Now that the initial emergency is past, perhaps he will further examine prebiotics and probiotics.
Your guess about low-carb diets (that typically tend to also be low in prebiotics) as a possible culprit is believable, as constipation and the need for magnesium supplements are commonly reported by LCers.
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Congrats on your early success badboy9311. I agree that the gut microbiome is important (as anyone who reads my posts knows, and I hope I haven't beaten the topic to death :) ). A_Tribe_Called_Paleo mentioned taking psyllium husk powder, which can help carry prebiotics to the distal end of the colon, and to some extent also ferment and act like a prebiotic itself. Now that the initial emergency is past, perhaps he will further examine prebiotics and probiotics.
Your guess about low-carb diets (that typically tend to also be low in prebiotics) as a possible culprit is believable, as constipation and the need for magnesium supplements are commonly reported by LCers.
I'm going to try and add more carbs to diet through fermented, and some starchy vegetables. Things like fermented cabbage, beets, carrots, sweet potato, and winter squash. I will lightly steam sweet potato and waiter squash to aid digestion.
Also going to experiment with more raw honey. Only eating about 1/4-1/2 tsp aday right now. Going to try to double that.
Also going to take AVs advice with papayas, melons, pineapples...
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Magnesium supplement is definitely helping me pass stools, but still with great difficulty. Could this be a sign of dehydration?
Also wondering if it's a sign I'm magnesium deficient, or not absorbing it properly. Would you guys recommend a multi vitamin?
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Magnesium supplement is definitely helping me pass stools, but still with great difficulty. Could this be a sign of dehydration?
Many factors can cause magnesium imbalance/deficiency, which was discussed already. It's almost impossible to know all the details that go on in your body, but you can get a magnesium blood test to see if you are actually low. One thing you could try even without a blood test is increasing the dosage of your supplement - 1 1/2 or 2 times the recommended dose shouldn't be too much. Magnesium supplement works against constipation by NOT being absorbed, so you want to exceed your own threshold of absorption. The only way to find that level is by trial and error.
Most important: don't expect everything in your short term results. For example, establishing a different (=healthier) colon microbiome can take a few weeks or even a month. On top of that, if you have "leaky gut" (tiny holes in the colon wall), your overall recovery can take 6 or more months. Being hydrated enough, OTOH, takes a few hours at most, but I'm not sure why you think that's the case. Are you restricting the water that you drink?
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Magnesium supplement is definitely helping me pass stools, but still with great difficulty. Could this be a sign of dehydration?
Also wondering if it's a sign I'm magnesium deficient, or not absorbing it properly. Would you guys recommend a multi vitamin?
Regarding dehydration. That you seemingly drink (or not) enough water does not mean you are actually hydrating yourself. Water has to have the right structures, the right way of molecules forming clusters in the water.
The body needs beautiful formations/crystalline formations/formations that correspond to healthy frequencies and vibrations that the body recognizes and can use. If water structure is wrong, ugly, distorted in bad ways, then the body has to use extra energy to try to correct the water structure within the body - but this requires more minerals, like magnesium.
Best water would be from unpolluted and clean nature, but since this is hard to obtain, unless you live close to nature, then there are ways to improve water structure.
The better structured water you drink the less minerals and nutrients you'll need, as there won't be much need to use them for correcting the structure in the body.
Water structures correspond to influences and information they were affected with or subjected to. If the water you drink is heated in bad ways and treated with chemicals, or anything negative, it will take structures corresponding to those negative influences. If you drink this negatively influenced water it will influence you in turn negatively - which is plain and simple nutritive imbalance/nutrient deficiency/toxic overload - which requires healing and correcting.
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Different forms of magnesium are also used differently by the body, magnesium citrate helps draw moisture to the stool, magnesium sulfate does this as well, magnesium gluconate is said to be the most bioavailable and absorbed for different body processes.
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Re A Tribe Called Paleo
hey, update from my solution
I've been using prescript assist probiotic for about a week and a little now, also supplemented with a whole jar of sauerkraut those early days of supplementing
I think the increase of probiotic + prebiotics has helped me a LOT in my recovery progress right now.
You might have different things that is lacking, but baseline and safe twitching your increase of microbiome will help a lot
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I have read where one of the means the colon is signaled to have peristalsis is reacting to the acid level of the material. As bacteria build up, their excrement also builds up and hence the acid nature. To eat large amounts of sauerkraut ( acidic ) would seem to naturally stimulate that situation. Unless of course that the stomach and small intestines neutralize those acids. Don't you just love the unknown.
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Re A Tribe Called Paleo
hey, update from my solution
I've been using prescript assist probiotic for about a week and a little now, also supplemented with a whole jar of sauerkraut those early days of supplementing
I think the increase of probiotic + prebiotics has helped me a LOT in my recovery progress right now.
You might have different things that is lacking, but baseline and safe twitching your increase of microbiome will help a lot
cool, congrats
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Re A Tribe Called Paleo
hey, update from my solution
I've been using prescript assist probiotic for about a week and a little now, also supplemented with a whole jar of sauerkraut those early days of supplementing
I think the increase of probiotic + prebiotics has helped me a LOT in my recovery progress right now.
You might have different things that is lacking, but baseline and safe twitching your increase of microbiome will help a lot
Yeah I've been eating more raw honey(i think it's a good prebiotic), sauerkraut, pickles(good quality never pasteurized).
Also added roasted peanut butter, heard it's a great source of magnesium.
Add Kerrygold butter to my meat meals for more fat.
I've been having at least one BM a day for about 5 days now. Only concerning thing now is that i don't "get the urge" to go."
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Update:
I no longer get the "urge" signaling I have to take a #2. I have to force it out using a series of deep breathing and air squat like movements. The process can last 10-45minites and only produce small amounts. I Havnt had a full, effortless BM in since dec 16th. I am worried I have damaged my colon/intestines from harsh laxatives such as Epsom salt/castor oil.
No idea what to do. Running out of ideas.
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Supposing you did harm to your intestines, there is no reason I can think of why they wouldn't heal, so don't worry and give it time with eating RPD. As I recall, you had a few possible diagnoses going from your internet consultant. It's time for a medical diagnosis, IMO, where they "rule out" some of the possibilities. Rectocele is one reasonable suspicion that would account for lack of mass movement sensation. It has a good range of treatments, starting with good nutrition options. I am in favor of moderate treatments, and I do mean "no more cleanses." Even if you don't go to the doctor, start eating right.
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I would say no more "cleanses" or laxatives as well unless it gets extreme. instead focus on that deep breathing, not just when you are on the toilet. calming your body, gettig into you body and instead of letting your mind decide when its okay or time to poop letting your body take over instead. It's very hard format people to do but the practice and routine of giving yoursef space before and after meals and quiet time other wise will allow your more subtle body functions to be free from the anxiety and psychosomatic issues that having severe constipation and digestive issues have caused. The best example I can think of from my own life is the very few times I have had to vomit. It's really gross but I realized if I got tense and tried to control the vomiting with my mind I would not happen, I had to get out of y mind and allow my bodies wisdom to take over. Some things that helped me with anxiety over pooping were to have warm water and tea throughout the day, so keeping hydrated, it's also a very calming ritual for me. Also knowing when I am most likely to poop or a the slightest urge dropping everything and giving myself however much time it might take, or multiple tries, sometimes drinking down some water and going for a short walk stimulates poops. I have pretty regular bowels now but it took YEARS, because my physical and mental anxiety surround it, my own use of laxitives and purgatives and having digestive issues.
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Yeah I've stopped use of all cleanse/detox/laxatives, and even even my forces of nature magnesium supplement(I don't believe in taking supplements, long term use could cause problems).
The doctors said I was fine! Of course they still tried to prescribe me muralax....
I will research Rectocele! From what I read so far pelvic floor dysfunction is a possibility.
I'm not discounting high levels of stress/anxiety either! I even read high levels of emf radiation can cause constipation. I have to find the article again, but I believe it somehow blocks magnesium absorption in the intestinal track. Which in turn causes a lack of water, and drys out the stool. I am constantly on my phone an computer and connected to Wifi.
I've cleaned up my diet considerably. cooked paleo for now, cannot afford quality meat to eat raw until I return home for summer. Added lots of fermented foods. Sauerkraut, pickles, chutney, yogurt.
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I used the word "rectocele" - perhaps too specifically - instead of your internet consultant's term pelvic floor dysfunction, to mean that the poop is descending and gathering but not giving you an urge signal. Please don't go hunting for a diagnosis on my account.
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I'm new in this but I would bet it's the cooked foods that cause you constipation, in particular the cooked meats/dairy. I really cannot imagine someone getting constipated from raw meats or dairy.
When you said you don't get an urge to go, and have to do crazy amounts of trying to pass only a small amount, have you considered that maybe it's because there isn't much to pass anyway?
When I was eating cooked meats and dairy, the best way to prevent constipation was always lots of whole vegetables, for the fiber. Now that I've started eating copious amounts of raw meat every day, I juice my vegetables to intentionally remove the fiber, and I still can't imagine getting constipated. It's only been a little over 2 weeks though.
Also, I wouldn't get so concerned about the quality of the meats as I would about whether they're raw. Yes, grassfed, organic, unvaccinated, never frozen is a lot better for you. But if your excuse for having cooked is that you can't get high quality meats, I don't think that holds much water (pun not intended). If you take bad quality meats and cook them, they will turn worse, not better for you. I would just have those raw if it's all I can get.
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When you said you don't get an urge to go, and have to do crazy amounts of trying to pass only a small amount, have you considered that maybe it's because there isn't much to pass.
No, I eat way to much for this to be the cause. I work out(1-2hours) and play hockey(1-2hours) everyday. In my off time I do movement/mobility training as well. I eat 4-6 meals a day.
Pelvic floor dysfunction is the most likely candidate right now.
I'm hesitant to take phyllium husk/chia seeds because I don't know if I'll be able to expel them??? Maybe I'm being overly cautous/paranoid.
I've been reading Aajonus's book and think that pasterized dairy could be adding to the problem. He claims it's indigestible, I thought I could substitute it for raw dairy.
At the moment I cook my meats in a crock pot on low(212F) for 6hours. Would the broth left in slow cooker be beneficial for me?
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I don't know, but when I was eating cooked stuff, well done beef was bad, and pasteurized cheese was the absolute worst in terms of constipation. I had to counter both of those with tons and tons of whole vegetables.
Now for the last 15 days I'm eating over 2 pounds of raw meat every day, mostly low quality feedlot beef which is most of what I could find, sometimes fish, and sometimes lamb that I think might be grassfed, but not sure. Today I also had 3 raw organic, mostly pasture raised (but supplemented with likely GMO corn) eggs mixed with raw honey (or at least I think it's raw, not sure) and natural vanilla extract (which I have no idea if it's raw or not). As I'm still adapting to the diet I've had overly loose BM's, but even though I've had almost no fiber (just a bit of fruit), I haven't had any constipation at all. If I was eating all this stuff cooked and without the fiber from the vegetables I would have massive constipation by now.
I'm allowing beef and lamb meats to ferment a bit in lemon juice before consuming them, to aid in the digestion process (it basically does the same as your stomach acid). That initially gave me some teeth sensitivity, but now that I added vegetable juice that's gone also. I'm slowly feeling stronger and healthier. Sometimes more so than others, but there is clear improvement nonetheless.
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Have you ever considered you are over exercising and not able to process foods because your body is in a constant state of anxiety and flight?? Have you considered that it may be a good idea to slow down on training to get your nervous system back into a less engaged state where you will be able to relax and heal? If you are having pelvic floor dysfunction it's because you have a weakness in one of he most important systems, your deepest core in the body. This could very basically be due to overtraining with improper strength. If you continue to overtrain you will never be able to heal your pelvic floor enough to where you can rehabilitate it and balance out your strength. I am sure the idea of not training causes you anxiety because you are so used to being in a state of exhaustion that you instead recognize it as alertness and also you are addicted to the endorphins. I would ask you to visit MarksDailyApple.com and read what you can about overtraining and the stress it causes, that's the best source I can think of ATM.
Pasturized dairy is a pretty poor sub for raw because of the denaturing of the enzyme lactase as well as the probiotics that help the body digest and assimilate the beneficial nutrients in the dairy and thatbare beneficial to healing the intestines. Are you eating fermented dairy like yogurt? Or just straight milk?
Dariorpf if the meat you are eating is certified organic then it will not be supplemented gmo corn, it may be supplemented organic corn, but anything certified organic contains no gmos if he farmers are upholding to those standards.
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it may be supplemented organic corn, but anything certified organic contains no gmos if he farmers are upholding to those standards.
Ah, good to know, thank you. They just said they supplemented with corn and I assumed it was probably GMO. Do you know if organic practices allow for vaccinations of animals? I know I avoided another source of good eggs precisely because they said the chickens were vaccinated (they said it thinking people would think that was good, I think it's horrible and likely to make the eggs a lot more toxic)
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Weird I have never heard of chicken vaccination for small scale farms before. I doubt you missed out on any good eggs if they were from a farm that had to use vaccines. Organic rules do allow for vaccination. This is because most farms who produce meat and are certified organic are large scale. Smaller scale grass fed operations don't generally use vaccinations because they are taking better care of their animals and not creating an environment where vaccines are necessary. If you have a local Weston a price chapter that is a good way to connect with legitimate small scale producers in your area.
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Do you know if organic practices allow for vaccinations of animals?
There are vaccinations that are "okay" by law for organic practices. Depending on where you are, different laws may apply.
Vaccinations may be necessary in many CAFO settings because the animals are confined. That's why Jessica mentions that vaccinations are not used on small farms. When it comes to commercial poultry, confinement and quasi-confinement are so common, partly because maintaining natural feeding environments with enough bugs for birds is very complex. Pasture is good enough for ruminants, but there needs to be a source of bugs, such as cow patties in a pasture, for birds, if you want to raise a whole bunch of birds.
Unless you actually know the poultry ranch, it may be safe to assume that it is a large operation.
Antibiotics may also be a gray area in organic practices. In my area, there is a distinction made between "routine" (given to every animal) vs "necessary" (necessary to treat a particular disease) antibiotics for livestock. Some savvy ranchers know how to bend the rules to make "routine" antibiotics seem "necessary."
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Have you ever considered you are over exercising and not able to process foods because your body is in a constant state of anxiety and flight?? Have you considered that it may be a good idea to slow down on training to get your nervous system back into a less engaged state where you will be able to relax and heal? If you are having pelvic floor dysfunction it's because you have a weakness in one of he most important systems, your deepest core in the body. This could very basically be due to overtraining with improper strength. If you continue to overtrain you will never be able to heal your pelvic floor enough to where you can rehabilitate it and balance out your strength. I am sure the idea of not training causes you anxiety because you are so used to being in a state of exhaustion that you instead recognize it as alertness and also you are addicted to the endorphins. I would ask you to visit MarksDailyApple.com and read what you can about overtraining and the stress it causes, that's the best source I can think of ATM.
Pasturized dairy is a pretty poor sub for raw because of the denaturing of the enzyme lactase as well as the probiotics that help the body digest and assimilate the beneficial nutrients in the dairy and thatbare beneficial to healing the intestines. Are you eating fermented dairy like yogurt? Or just straight milk?
Dariorpf if the meat you are eating is certified organic then it will not be supplemented gmo corn, it may be supplemented organic corn, but anything certified organic contains no gmos if he farmers are upholding to those standards.
I don't think it's over training. I know I do have an extremely week inner core. Which is why I'm doing movement/functionality training. I was eating red hill goat kefir, sheep bri, lactose free grass fed sour cream, Kerry gold butter
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A_Tribe, I would try having all raw foods for a couple of days and then see if the situation gets better. If you think your digestive system is too weak to handle red meat, try raw fish, and if even that is too hard to digest, go with eggs. Either way, you said you are eating normally again, so if you can handle cooked stuff, surely you would be even more able to digest raw foods.
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What kind of working out? Gym?
When working out and training it's not about body muscles, it's about the heart. Have to concentrate on the heart, not body muscles. The heart determines whether training is occurring or not. Heart has to be working well and strong and/or fast when training. If heart is working strong and fast, then breathing will go strong and fast, and there will also be strong perspiration - these are all simple indicators that training is or has occurred. Body muscles are irrelevant in the sense that heart must be the one "leading", and body muscles "dragging behind".
If you follow conventional way of training then it is the exact opposite - body muscles lead, and heart drags behind. Body muscles heal easily and rather fast, heart does not, for heart to heal it takes much longer.
Working out 1-2 hours, and also 1-2 hours of hockey, each day really is too much; plus the off-time exercises... At first it might seem as if no big deal, and you might get away with it for a while, maybe a few to several months, even longer if you are rather "obsessed" (get a negative mental feeling if you think of "skipping" a day or more, and thus force it on) with training, but eventually it will hit you hard. After that there's potentially several months to a year worth of healing from the damage. Especially prone for to this to happen if you eat 4-6 meals a day... when is your digestive tract resting and healing from all the digestion? During sleeping? Sleep time is not enough. If you eat too often, for a too long period, then the digestive tract will become overloaded. If it is overloaded it will become hurt and somewhat inflamed, if it is hurt and inflamed nutrient absorption goes down. Then you get health issues, because nutrients, especially minerals, aren't absorbing well. Since they are not absorbing well but healing of the gut requires those nutrients, then they are instead leeched from the rest of the body to the gut for healing purposes. So hurt gut not only absorbs less nutrients but it also leeches from the body, leaving the rest of the body even more severely in deficiencies.
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I am away from home(California) right now and really cannot afford 100% raw. I'll be back in about 2 months and my situation will change. I cannot wait, I'm homesick! I will immediately be going 100% raw.
For a long time I over stressed my body with pointless, and horribly damaging lifting techniques. From ages 16-18 It was common for me to spend 2-4 hours in the gym doing Bench press,curls, leg press ect... All with horrible form. It was extremely detremental to my postural integrity. I developed either posterior/anterior pelvic tilt. Idk which yet. My entire chain of back muscles is extremely weak. Core is weak and disfigured. Overdeveloped chest and leg muscles. Until 18/19 years old I was on a SAD diet(lots of pb&j, cereal, hotdog, burgers fries, pasta, milk everything cheap and low quality...)Last year my imbalances became so painful I often wouldn't sleep more than 1-2 hours a night for weeks at a time due to Tention induced headaches(While trying to continue hockey/lifting. 1 year ago I broken ankle and it caused me to gain lots of weight. I went from 5'11 190 to almost 210. That's when I discovered the paleo diet and more movement oriented workouts.
Now I do mainly crossfit(for hockey), yoga, and movement training.My previous lifestyle has left my core in ruins. I struggle daily to improve it. All my muscles are extremely right and miss shapen. I still get tention induced headaches from my right neck/upper back. The feelin is similar to having a concussion.
I have been frantically searching the internet looking for what could cause my BM problem. I'm leaning toward Pelvic Floor Dysfunction. I'm hoping RPD, yoga, therapeutic massages will help me regain some structural integrity. Many of my muscles and bones are miss shaken from years of abuse. It's going to be a long journy to health for me. AV said it could take 40 years to correct incorrectly formed bones.
I still plan to experiment with raw dairy. Last summer I tried and felt great on it. Most noticeably it's effects on my libido. A huge increase. I understand it's an addictive food and not optimal for long term health. I believe if used properly(seasonally), it could speed healing.
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I didn't understand the difference between Cooked and raw fats until I finished AVs book just two days ago. I thought even pasturized grass fed cheese/butter/sour cream would help digestion of my meals. Now I know even raw cheese is indigestible and used only to soak up toxins in te body.
I'm going to add lots more raw fat to my diet now. Avocados, coconut come to mind. Maybe soaked raw Mac nuts? Grass fed beef is 11.99lb at local WF... I rarely can get. Salmon is 24.99.
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Tribe you might really want to cut hockey and strength training and really work on doings gentle restorative yoga. I overstrained for years and years as well and had huge issues with anxiety leading to bowel issues, going from laxative induced diarrhea to bloating and feeling "constipated" and back again. Basically all that left me with was weak bones, organs and a host of mental health issues. In the past few years I have only began to understand that true healing comes through rest and rehab and not force and strength training. The last straw for me in realizing this was that early this summer I was actually overworking, holding two farm jobs where i ended up working a few weeks straight if 12 hr days while moving from one stressful living situation to the next. The amount of physical labor plus the fact my body was really needing to rest anyway and the psychological stress left me wih 4 ribs out of place. My strength was so depleted it became completely unbalanced. I worked, albeit only 8 hr days wih this injury for a month until my body was so inflamed I couldn't breath. I finally quit my job and with it all of the constant heavy lifting (it was a dairy farm ran by feminazi's) and got a few weeks worth if chiropractic work done and spent two months resting and trying not to Reinjure my ribs. I started working again without doing any rehab and spent two painful month completing a landscaping job where I shoveled at least 2000lbs of shit, all kinds of weird muscle groups were strained but not so bad that pacing myself and rest didnt help them heal. Then I got super serious about healing and said no more heavy lifting or manual labor. Focused on long stress free walks and hikes and getting back into the most basic, non aggressive, gentle yoga focused on posture instead of flowing quickly through movements. In the short time I have been doing the yoga and no manual labor I have seen a Huge change in my body. My posture has improved ten fold, I have lost inflammation I didn't even know I had, regained much movement I didn't realize I could or had lost, especially in back, hips and ankles that have taken a ton of abuse. I feel more balanced in strength then I have when I have "known" I was "stronger" or at least thought I was in better physical shape. I would encourage you to seek out both chiropractic support as well as a gentle, restorative yoga practice and cut the hard stuff all together for a while.
There has to be a better and less expensive source of meat in California, have you tried contacting the local wapf ? Ask for fat from from the butchers at wf market, just make sure it's from the grass fed animals. If not find a local farm or small butcher and see what they have for trim.
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Mammoth, this is my last year of hockey. I'm under contract so have to play the remaining 2months of the season. I'm in NJ now, as soon as season is over I'll be returning to California where paleo living is much easier! And I'll have the support if my family behind me. Out here in nj I am alone and have limited resources.
Thank you for sharing your story! It is very inspiring. Imdefinitely going to get into yoga asap. I'm also very interested in movement culture.
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I must agree with Jessica - I was overtrained as well and I started having some digestive problems (diarrhea, bloating), I thought it was because of some food intolerance so I cut eggs, grass fed butter, and other stuff out of my diet but it didn't work - I mean one day everything was fine and rest of the week I was waking up with diarrhea. I was walking, doing yoga and strength training and decided to reduce the intensity and stick only to gentle yoga and gentle walks. After a week I started feeling better and after 2 weeks my digestion was normal again!
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I've also had a history of not chewing my food enough and eating to fast. It was not uncommon I would find whole pieces of food in my stool. I've now changed my habits and try to chew food to a liquid as much as possible. It's very hard go for me and requires deep concentration. I don't know why.
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Then have foods that don't require much chewing, like raw ground beef, raw fish, or raw eggs. Also vegetable juice works wonders here. And raw honey. And any raw dairy. I would suggest avoiding the pink salmon in particular because most of it is farmed, and all of it is GMO, even the wild variety, since the GMO pink salmon from farms escaped and contaminated the wild populations' genetics. But if all you can have is raw farmed pink salmon, it's still a lot better than anything cooked, IMO.
It's possible that the reason you have trouble chewing a lot is because your teeth are weak from a deficient diet and too much toxins. But I think they will heal in time if you give them the right nutrients and the tools to help get rid of toxins.
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Then have foods that don't require much chewing, like raw ground beef, raw fish, or raw eggs. Also vegetable juice works wonders here. And raw honey. And any raw dairy. I would suggest avoiding the pink salmon in particular because most of it is farmed, and all of it is GMO, even the wild variety, since the GMO pink salmon from farms escaped and contaminated the wild populations' genetics. But if all you can have is raw farmed pink salmon, it's still a lot better than anything cooked, IMO.
It's possible that the reason you have trouble chewing a lot is because your teeth are weak from a deficient diet and too much toxins. But I think they will heal in time if you give them the right nutrients and the tools to help get rid of toxins.
I think Sockeye salmon by law must be wild caught not farmed? They look dark red even at WFs. But yes, still could contain contaminets. I hae about 28lbs of turkey left I need to eat then I can purchase some grass fed ground beef.
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I need to get more fat into my diet.
So far Avocados, young coconut/coconut oil. And ground beef. I think WF said it was 15% fat.
What do you guys think of:
Raw Mac nuts
Raw Olives... Are they edible? I've read they're not
Unsalted Kerrygold butter. Would this help or complicate my constipation? It is pasteurized butter, but grass fed.
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My WF trims its own roasts and grinds its own beef and lamb, and that means they have to have some fat trimmings lying around, which they might give me if I ask. I get my fat trimmings this way at another market. Ask them.
Watch out for rancid raw macadamia nuts - you may be able to taste the rancidity. I've never had a good raw macadamia nut from local vendors, who buy from undated stock - the nuts could be from a previous year's harvest. Even so, you are right up there where people grow nuts, so you can probably find a more local nut source that's fresh from this season's harvest.
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A really good source for fat and possibly the least expensive might be to the butchers for fat trim from grass fed animals, ask for untrimmed kidneys if they sell them, they usually have huge amounts of fat on them, ask for the tongue, it's an extremely fatty cut. You are best to go with organic valley brand butter as kerrygold likely supplements with gmo feed as they are not certified organic. I would really encourage you to look into your local Weston a price chapter when you get home to California. You should be able to source higher quality animal fats, fattier more diverse cuts like ribs and shank and offal. I think the laws in California are pretty well in favor of raw dairy and you may be able to find a source of raw butter
Ps up top it should have said shoveled 20000lbs of shit, not 2000;). Basically the point is your body gets used to certain amounts of stress and pain and will actually go numb to misuse as a survival mechanism, that's a really poor position to be in. You probably won't realize how exhausted you were until you stop, until you actually rest and let your body heal.
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Raw Olives... Are they edible? I've read they're not
Perhaps this will help:
Yes dry, just put the olives and close the jar. You don't have to wait years: you can open the jar after a few months, just the time for the olives to mature in the gas they emit. An even more natural way is to let them mature in the open until they become soft and loose their bitterness, then they can be stored in jars as well.
This video is in French, but the guy (currently vegan again, I think) explains it quite well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGZcL_JDZA0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGZcL_JDZA0)
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So you guys don't think pasturized butter will hurt my constipation. I was hoping it would help, then I read AVs book. He claims Cooke fats harden inside the body! I'm just looking to eliminate all foods that could cause any problems for me.
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My current boyfriend has suffered from hard impacted constipation and hemorrhoids. He is now having "shits that should be worshipped" on a cooked "primal" diet that includes pasturized organic/gf butter, yogurt, cheese and raw milk, no nuts, only seeds being pumpkin, rarely an avocado, uses coconut oil only to brush teeth. He is also recovering from extreme rosacea which is thought to be caused intestinal fungus/extreme gut disbiosis. It's only one case but it's my own to illustrated that cooked fats are capable of eliminating constipation.
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Tribe Called Paleo... are you now doing water enemas or olive oil enemas when you are having trouble pooping?
Did you try and get Barefoot Herbalist MH's LBB capsules?
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Tribe Called Paleo... are you now doing water enemas or olive oil enemas when you are having trouble pooping?
Did you try and get Barefoot Herbalist MH's LBB capsules?
I have not done enemas. The doctor advised against doing them. Said that it could rupture or injure my colon. I have not bought the lower bowel balance pills yet. Very pricy and money is tight. In 2 months I'll be home and be able to order them.
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I think your doctor is an IDIOT. (for saying enemas are dangerous, reveals his ignorance and superstition)
What is dangerous is colon hydrotherapy with a machine.
But an enema bucket with just say 300 ml - 400 ml of water in your anus hole is totally safe. For extra virgin olive oil for diverticulitis or hardened feces you can use only 250ml to 300ml so you can absorb that raw fat directly in your gut... and your intestinal blockage slips away. You can use enema buckets to emergency hydrate yourself with 6 tablespoons sugar and 1 teaspoon salt in 1 liter of water. (insert only 300ml). And enema buckets can be used for coffee enemas.
infants, teenagers, adults, goats any mammal benefits from enemas as a tool.
For infants I use a syringe without the needle.
Your doctor is an IDIOT to try to deny you basic care.
(Sorry, but I have to say it, get another opinion from a holistic doctor / chiropractor --- not an MD next time)
My then 9 yr old boy would have been butchered by surgical removal of a large part of his large intestine had I not come in with hydrating enemas and oil enemas in the hospital. Canceled his surgery the very morning because we did our miracle enemas in the evening.
This same boy went to lots more hell with hardened feces in 4 diverticulitis pockets and we had to use vinegar spiked water enemas and various oil enemas to coax those out his large intestines that totally plugged up. Which also led to his small intestines getting plugged up and get into massive leaky gut that led to full body eczema. He thanks enemas and now does them by himself when he needs to.
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Not sure if it's just because I'm feeling a little feisty today... so, enemas can distend or weaken colons if done incorrectly, i.e., using too much water. They can also for some lead to dependence on them to evacuate. Yes, once in a while they can be helpful with using small amounts of water, but to me efforts should be focused on finding the cause and not a temporary cure, on that one can easily get into the habit with,, as in, 'gosh, I didn't poop this morning, better get out the enema bag'...
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Yes van, you are correct. Enemas are just tools for healing.
Not to be overdone, not to be over used.
For example, a friend had a pet goat that was suffering because he ate something he could not expel. One water enema and the goat was relieved.
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I think your doctor was giving his honest opinion as a medical doctor, and he is probably taking into account his observations of you plus his medical training and experience. There was no harm in finding out his diagnosis and treatment.
It can be useful to hear a medical doctor give a "nothing's really wrong with you" diagnosis. To me, that means that your solution is to balance your lifestyle by eating and moving well. Doctors in the US often don't offer their patients this truth because the patients won't follow that kind of advice.
If I were to generalize, I'd say that enemas are useful to treat acute (not chronic) conditions and to accompany other nutritional treatments. You are having chronic constipation, so it would be more useful to be able to observe your natural elimination. If you resort to enemas, you'll never really know what helped and what didn't.
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I think my abuse of Epsom salt and Castor oil could have damaged my colon. What if I perform enema incorrectly? That is the main fear I'm having. I'm definitely all for doing it. I'm inexperienced and don't want to damage myself anymore.
Do I need a special chiropractor to help for constipation? Would they be able to diagnose Pelvic Floor Dysfunction?
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Do I need a special chiropractor to help for constipation? Would they be able to diagnose Pelvic Floor Dysfunction?
Pelvic floor dysfunction is so rare in young males. Which type do you have? By "type" I mean is it a tear, or a nerve problem, or a muscle weakness? If you know the type, you can start to think about a solution. For example, a tear might need to be repaired by surgery, whereas a muscle weakness needs to be exercised, and a nerve problem might be corrected by learning to relax.
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Chiropractor can check your spine and your nervous system if that could be the one that is causing your illness.
Plus Chiropractors have good holistic education.
You can get a nurse or some other holistic healer to teach you enemas. It's too easy.
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Pelvic floor dysfunction is so rare in young males. Which type do you have? By "type" I mean is it a tear, or a nerve problem, or a muscle weakness? If you know the type, you can start to think about a solution. For example, a tear might need to be repaired by surgery, whereas a muscle weakness needs to be exercised, and a nerve problem might be corrected by learning to relax.
I have very weak inner abdominal walls. I have a very bad neck,back,hips, and feet from 15 years of ice hockey. And today I had Lower abdominal pain when trying to pass stool.
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You definitely need the best chiropractor and the best dorn healers. Also the best acupuncturists.
Try to poop in a squatting position like tribal natives do. Or get a stepping stool under your feet when you sit in your Jon.
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Still no urges. Eliminations becoming less frequent and increasingly more difficult.
Also started getting sharp pains in my chest, and various regions of my abdominals. Did some research and think it could be acid reflux problem, not sure. This experience has exhausted me. I'm growing more and more lethargic each day.
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Castor oil again.
Water enemas please. Or oil enemas.
* Best Enema Video! How to do an ENEMA at Home - Live! * (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcDXOVCP2bM#)
Barefoot Herbalist LBB please. Where to buy. Make your colon a champion in 60 days.
http://oldfashionedspices.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=445 (http://oldfashionedspices.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=445)
Ask Barefoot Support forum to learn to use LBB and enemas
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LBB PDF documentation attached.
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Important update for anyone suffering from chronic constipation!!
The Last two night before bed I ate about 5-6 tablespoons of raw Stone ground black tahini, with a few slices of raw ginger root(read it helps regulate the bowels). This morning I had the easiest, most normal bowel movement/elimination I've had in months. It was quick, decent consistency, and most importantly, painless.... The reason i suspect it was the black tahini is due to the color of my stool, pure black. Has never been like that since first 8 day stretch of constipation. I've also limited my fiber the past 2-3 days to only fruit, and sauerkraut(with meat) . A few slices of onion/garlic/cilantro leaves with my meat. I've also started drinking the broth from crock pot every time I eat meat, as well as 3-4 table spoons of Kerrygold.
Things I've had greatest success with forming natural stools with. Of course castor oil, Epsom salts, and enemas work. But they are very harsh IMO.
1. Black Tahini
2. Peanut butter
3. AV green apple/olive oil formula
4. AV chia seed formula(passed in 2 days)
5. Less fiber, more butter(kerrygold)
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It's great that you are having good bowel movements. Beware that sesame seeds are high in copper and omega 6, two things which can exacerbate candida and other mineral related gut imbalances as well as inflamation, their phytates which inhibit mineral absorbtion, I imagine peanuts have all of these qualities, i am not sure their mineral content, and that chia seeds also contain phytates and likely oxalates. I would think they should only be used as temporary and intermittently while healing and adjusting to a more animal fat based diet.
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Good on you Tribe.
You may not have gotten the message yet that LBB capsules restore colon function... restore to CHAMPION operational status after 60 days. There is no dependency on the LBB. I did it. My son did it.
We are the pooping champs at home!
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Yeah Im not looking for continuous use of peanut butter or tahini. But good to know it works so well for me in emergency situations. I'm much more concerned now with not having the urge to go.
GS, once back in California I'll be able to see chiro/acupuncturist freely. And info plan on ordering barefoot herbalist pills!
Once home i will say goodbye to my ice hockey days, and be focused on my health 100%!
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Congrats Tribe! Jessica is unfortunately correct that peanuts and sesame are high in omega 6, as is chia. Something to consider in the longer run.
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Yeah I don't plan on using them long term. The tahini is raw stoneground, so it could just be the raw fat from it that helped me pass stool so easily. I believe they are 60% oil. I think eliminating vegetables has helped a lot as well. I had no idea fiber could be so harmful.... Everyone was suggesting I up my fiber intake...
I might try and make my own Mac nut butter to replace tahini.
I've started eating raw(marinated) Spanish mackerel. And soon will try raw ground beef. Both from WF. It's very expensive, but now that I'm not buying vegetables I should be able to handle the cost. I'm going to continue to use fermented vegetables like sauerkraut and pickles.
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What would be the best way to heal my possible leaky gut/candida problem?
I have been eating some sauerkraut/pickles. Picked up some fermented carrots too. Any other fermented foods that would be accessible at a WF?
I saw tempeh and miso made from soy beans. Are these a paleo safe fermented food? I found mixed answers on the internet.
Would un homogenized grass fed yogurt help at all? I saw red hill goat kefir, it was pasteurized.
I hope to be eating completely raw meat in about 10-14days. I'm going to ease into this time.
My brother is making a few batches of high meat. Out first attempt.
Any suggestions for more fermented paleo foods would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you to everyone helping me through this! Without you guys id most likely be downing bottles of murilax...
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Interesting. I love animal fats and saw lots of advice over the years from Paleoists and LCers to eat MOAR fat and reduce the fiber "menace," which I was more than happy to try out. :) There were also some vegan and vegetarian voices that I found mostly extreme, flaky and offputting (with some exceptions), and I debated some of them. I even called my approach "raw facultative carnivore." :) While fat doesn't plug me up as much as lean meat protein, I've been getting better results from including more of what seem to be the best sorts of plant "fiber" for me (including microbiota accessible carbohydrates, which I hadn't seen much on in the past--instead the pro-fiber talk from physicians, nutritionists, other experts and conventional wisdom had been focused on whole grains, especially whole wheat/bran) than from ingesting lots of fat (don't get me wrong--I felt great for some time while eating lots of fat and look for any excuse to eat it :P --and who knows, maybe I'll find that something else works better down the road). Individual differences can be remarkable, and no one can know for sure what will work for everyone else. It seems most of us need to figure it out ourselves what works for us, and to each his own.
Without you guys id most likely be downing bottles of murilax...
Ugh, don't remind me. ;) Polyethylene glycol was an utter nightmare for me. I even asked the gastroenterologist who prescribed it if long-term use could have any side effects, such as electrolyte/mineral depletion (given that the acute dose products of it, like GoLytely, had warnings about that, and most of them even included added electrolytes in them), and he angrily insisted that it couldn't. I should have guessed that his irritation was a sign that something was not right, but I was willing to try just about anything at the time. I'll bet that past patients had complained about side effects, but he insisted otherwise because of what his big-pharma-funded American books and brochures told him (I later learned that some European governments require that electrolytes be added to low-dose long-term-use PEG products, as well as acute-dose products).
Cheers.
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The big idea behind eating the way our paleolithic ancestors ate is to avoid illness from eating foods that we are not designed to eat. For example, nobody "back then" baked a loaf of bread. You can find plenty of recipes online offering paleo bread loaves, as if only the ingredients were the only health offenders, when actually the processing of foods is a big part of the problem. Processing (cooking, grinding, seasoning, etc.) confuses the digestive process from the nose (smell) and mouth (taste and texture) on down.
When people talk about leaky gut, they are referring to microscopic lesions on the bowel lining caused by irritation from the wrong foods, making it possible for "stuff" (bacteria, yeast, various toxins) to pass out of the colon wall into the bloodstream and on throughout the body.
If you are healthy enough to heal a cut on your skin, then your body is constantly healing these lesions; you don't need to do anything to heal them.
All you have to do is stop causing new lesions! This does happen when you eat the way out paleolithic ancestors ate - whole, uncooked, unprocessed foods that were hunted or gathered. You can get pretty close to this if you eat modern foods in a raw and unprocessed state. Once in a while, foods were consumed in their fermented state because fermentation happens naturally in nature. But you don't have to go fanatical over single types of foods or nutrients or treatments.
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My brother at 27 had insane candida that manifested as psoriasis he almost died. One of the things he did was VCO detox for 3 days... and he did this 4 times.
My boy at 11 had colon disabled by multiple diverticulitis resulted in small intestine massive leaky gut which led to full body eczema. Oil enemas scooped out his diverticulitis pockets. LBB allowed him to poop everyday without enema assistance, LBB for 60 days made him a pooping champ. Raw organic duck egg yolks plus diluted orange juice fast for 2 weeks allowed his leaky gut to heal... then some 6 months of strict raw paleo diet... just easy to digest sea food and egg yolks first... then the addition of raw beef once his digestion was stronger... at the end I was looking for poop solidness and put him on a 3 week raw milk fast from a grass fed cow in the nearby mountain.
Today my 13 yr old boy is on a mostly cooked paleo diet. And his nemesis is rice and most especially corn.
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Eve heart, you make a very good point about processed paleo foods causing gut irritation. Would this still apply to nuts/seeds? I'm sure we possessed the capability to stone grind them, and would think it's te preferred way to eat them. I even see nature shows where chimps are smashing nuts/seeds with stones.
GS, I'm not strong enough to do VCO detox right now. I tried and it left me almost incapable of walking. I will try again once I'm home in California.
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Eve heart, you make a very good point about processed paleo foods causing gut irritation. Would this still apply to nuts/seeds? I'm sure we possessed the capability to stone grind them, and would think it's the preferred way to eat them. I even see nature shows where chimps are smashing nuts/seeds with stones.
If you believe that anything is better than your own chewing, go ahead and do it!
That's interesting about chimps smashing nuts and seeds into nut butter and seed butter, but I don't believe it; I've only seen them crack the hull, not grind the kernel.
Just because we possess a capability doesn't mean that we have found a way to promote better nutrition. Usually, processing works the other way around: it promotes convenience, not better nutrition.
On the other hand, if you ate nuts and seeds whole during their natural season and a little after that season (because they can be stored), you won't be facing an onslaught of the nut and seed irritants 24/7/365. Why you would want ground sesame seeds in the dead of winter is curious because you certainly wouldn't find any, and you wouldn't have been able to collect and store that many to last you from the end of August to the middle of January.
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NEED HELP. URGENT.
About 2 hours ago at work I noticed when I applied even the slightest pressure to my Mid Right Andominal region it produced a very sharp pain.
I did workout and play hockey today so it's possibly a pulled muscle. But it feels internal. A quick google and the pain looks like it's around the Liver, duodonem area.
Anyone know what could be causing pain, and how to cure/settle it?
I immediately though appendicidis because of my constipation issue, it seems a little high up for that to be the cause(I'm hoping).
GS,
I have ordered the Lower bowel balance pills. They should arrive within a couple days now.
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In my country we have what we call a "hilot", usually a skilled person that feels, analyzes and massages your body and makes adjustments. Do you have those kinds of people in your country? Maybe an acupuncturist? The chiropractor?
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I've never heard of a hilot over here in US. I'll have to google. We have acupuncturist/chiro. I can definitely see chiro tomorow.
Is acupuncture superior to chiro?
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Acupuncture and chiropractice complement one another.
It is not about one being superior to another.
We patronize both plus hilots and lots more.
Example of a "hilot" on video
ALVIN TRADITIONAL HILOT MASSAGE 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSvpZONhQUE#)
Many different people with various expertise on different things.
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You can find a hilot if you are near a Philippine community in the US. We have them here in the SF Bay area. Other traditional massage healers are available in most Asian communities in the US. I've been treated by massage healers from Korea and northern China that I find by asking around.
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About 2 hours ago at work I noticed when I applied even the slightest pressure to my Mid Right Andominal region it produced a very sharp pain.
I did workout and play hockey today so it's possibly a pulled muscle. But it feels internal. A quick google and the pain looks like it's around the Liver, duodonem area.
I've been learning about training stuff. Came to this (after 4:30, explains something that might be your cause of pain) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X97ZWux7L4&x-yt-ts=1421828030&x-yt-cl=84411374#t=307 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X97ZWux7L4&x-yt-ts=1421828030&x-yt-cl=84411374#t=307)
That guy has other really great videos as well (categorized by muscle groups on his website), explains how to make exercises right and effective, and how many different variations there are, and more.
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Say it's worst case scenario and I have appendicitis...
Is it possible to wal with diet?
How do I avoid surgery?
Anyone know any AV remedies/point of view?
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Anyone know any AV remedies/point of view?
Have you tried his blended tomato appendicitis treatment? It sounds delicious.
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Not yet. I lack a source of raw fat which I'm sure it calls for.
I bulk order some avocados(waiting for them to ripen)
And order some Coconut creme from OLC won't be here till Thursday next week.
Going to eat some raw Spanish mackerel, heard it's a very fatty fish.
Also picked up some Raw blue cheese from WF, didn't have salt listed in ingredients. Going to eat small squares throughout the day with some avocado/coconut creme and raw honey . Like Aajonus says to. Hopefully it helps.
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I've been eating lots of Kerry gold because it helps with my constipation. Could that cause any problems with bile?
Also read too much peanut butter can cause duodenum ulcers. Very possible this could have happened too me.
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Say it's worst case scenario and I have appendicitis...
Is it possible to wal with diet?
How do I avoid surgery?
Anyone know any AV remedies/point of view?
castor oil will get rid of appendicitis.
as well as dr. tams miracle tea.
Other colon cleansers will also do it maybe... like oxypowder etc.
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GS,
I just received Christopher's Lower bowel formula. It says not to use product when experiencing abdominal pain. In this case should I ignore warning?
How does this product compare to Barefoots? My father says its the same thing and refused to purchase Barefoots because of price.
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Past two days been eating 2-3 avocados a day for raw fat. They started giving me terrible gas and less frequent BM. I thought they were suppose to ease constipation, any reason they could be worsening my condition? Could i really be that intolerable to fiber? Could i have an intolerance to Amines/histamines?
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thats a lot of avocados! they tend to make my poop sticky. i dont know what it is, there are way better sources of fat out there though, maybe try to diversify if you can in your current situation? any time you are eating a large quantity of one thing over and over you run the risk of becoming allergic, with fruits, grains, vegetables, nuts and seeds because they have antinutrients and other allergens. perhaps this was to prohibit animals from eating all of the seeds of a plants labor. even eggs, which are basically chicken seeds, can be problematic if over consumed.
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I'm still waiting for my coconut creme, and raw butter to arrive.
I thought avocados would hold me over until then, but seems I don't digest them well...
Almost 8-9 hours after eating raw Spanish mackerel and I'm still burping up the taste of it. Is it possible I'm not digesting it properly? I thought fish would be easily digestible as well...
A skin rash has developed over the area where my abdominal pain is.
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The more I read about colon health, constipation, and IBS, the more I find FIBER to be the root cause.... It's hard to stomach that even fiber from fruits could be causing me problems, because I love them so much. But after the difficulty I had with avocados, I am considering trying a low fiber, or even ZERO FIBER diet. Has anyone experimented with this yet? Any health risks?
A low fiber diet would most likely only get fiber from fermented vegetables, I guess no fruits besides melons.
http://www.gutsense.org/gutsense/sensitivity.html (http://www.gutsense.org/gutsense/sensitivity.html)
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/03/18/mcbride-and-barringer-interview.aspx (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/03/18/mcbride-and-barringer-interview.aspx)
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one word: moderation
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I will say that fiber was a big problem for me, and that after adapting to high fat low carb, I found that my digestion did much better without it. There are essential details that must be worked out in order to make the more extreme versions of a paleo diet work. I have to have large amounts of pure animal fat, I wouldn't recommend that anyone even attempt to go low carb without a good fat source.
Avocados are not adequate. I will eat them on occasion, but for some reason lately I have noticed they haven't been tasting very good, and I have begun to suspect that there may be a quality issue in the world of cultivated organic avocadoes. Perhaps they are picked too early and don't ripen very well on their long journey from Mexico to Kentucky, but there is often an "off" taste which seems to indicate a quality issue?
Fish have never worked well for me as a fat source, and I remember that ever present fishy taste after attempting to live on a staple of fatty fish for a week, before giving up on the experiment.
It may take weeks to reestablish a gut flora balance, and begin to regain a healthy homeostasis. Going from one extreme diet to another doesn't seem to be the best course of action. It will take time for you to find out what works best.
I would recommend trying to incorporate coconut crème and finding a good sources of red meats organs and grass fed animal fats. Its very important to establish some dietary staple foods which are nourishing and can begin to rebalance the gut ecology, you must realize that it will take at least a couple of weeks before you will be able to tell if you are on the right track, or not... Good Luck!
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one word: moderation
Why moderation? Do you believe fiber is necessary?
I'm thinking I might only eat fibrous foods that have higher soluble than insoluble just to be safe. I think foods with high insoluble fiber should be fermented, and possibly even cooked...
I need to do more research, but I don't think fiber is necessary for humans at all.
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Why moderation? Do you believe fiber is necessary?
I have that same one word: moderation.
Not just moderation in fiber intake, but in anything.
After you establish a moderate and consistent diet, your gut will make the necessary microbial adjustments to handle what you eat.
If you want a paleolithic rationale for eating some fiber, imagine what a paleo guy would do if he found a tasty leaf or flower or root or fruit. And if this p.g. lived where leaves and flowers and roots and fruits are abundant, he would eat those fibrous foods without counting soluble and insoluble. We are still that way: I remember as a child knowing every good tasting grass and weed on my walk to school, and I learned the good ones on my own. So, I think it's in our nature to nibble on plants, and that means some fiber can go down the hatch.
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I have that same one word: moderation.
Not just moderation in fiber intake, but in anything.
After you establish a moderate and consistent diet, your gut will make the necessary microbial adjustments to handle what you eat.
If you want a paleolithic rationale for eating some fiber, imagine what a paleo guy would do if he found a tasty leaf or flower or root or fruit. And if this p.g. lived where leaves and flowers and roots and fruits are abundant, he would eat those fibrous foods without counting soluble and insoluble. We are still that way: I remember as a child knowing every good tasting grass and weed on my walk to school, and I learned the good ones on my own. So, I think it's in our nature to nibble on plants, and that means some fiber can go down the hatch.
I'm looking for rationale not to eat fiber. It seems like it's very damaging to the digestive system...
I feel like most fruits/veggies contain most of the insoluble fiber in the skin, which we would have removed like many of us still due today. Fruits are easy to breakdown by chewing, and are almost predigested if properly vine/sun ripened. I feel like the breakdown of many vegetables and tubers is not so easy. I've also read that the Hadza way to eat tubers was to roast and remove skins... If eaten raw they chewed on them, and spit out fiber(same concept as juicing).
In today's world we have no reason to consume a food that is harmful to us in anyway. If we can avoid fiber and still get all the nutrients we need for health, strength, and longevity from animal products, why wouldn't we.
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your rational should be your bodies own reaction and your instinctual craving for them. if you feel like you cannot handle them right now, dont eat them right now. if in the future you have a hankering for something, eat it IN MODERATION, notice that you may only need one serving of what your body is asking for, notice it may not be the right thing at all.
you really need to work on having a moderate baseline diet set to get your body into homeostasis, focusing on the things you feel best eating before you can even start to access this properly. i feel like it has taken over 5 years of tweaking to find that the most simple diet of only animal fats, some raw and some cooked meats, certain cooked veggies and other raw veggies, raw dairy, salt and seaweed is the personal best for me. i notice my appetite for certain foods change all of the time, it goes in cycles, its very seasonal now, but how i feel physically, mentally and emotionally is much more likely to continue to improve because i dont go through extreme shifts in what i eat, i stick to the basics and if i feel there is something missing i have a little bit of that something, if i feel like i need more i generally eliminate another food for the time being and add whatever felt missing into its place.
i feel like a lot of times when we first start a healing diet we go to such extremes because we are trying to fill nutritional voids and imbalances. i think it may do some good to have mineral and vitamin levels tested and get help rebalancing them by doctors who specialize in this type of orthomolecular medicine. it might not be necessary but i do believe it could save people years of experimentation. also emphasis needs to be on repairing the digestive system and repopulating it with the proper gut microbes. this is why i think its okay to imbibe in certain neolithic foods (raw, grass fed dairy, yogurts and to a lesser extent fermented vegetables) and also take soil organism based probiotics, and even rely on digestive support such as oxbile capsules, and even cooking foods, making broths, and eating a partially cooked paleo type diet if that is what it takes to get people to calm down and learn to practice moderation.
i think for most of us a moderate diet includes animal fats, meats, seafoods and offal, then you will notice we each have certain foods like greens, vegetables, fruits, seaweeds, eggs, dairy, seeds, honey, oil that we choose to eat or not eat depending on how we react to them as individuals.
if you dont want to eat fiber, give it a try, just realize that with out fiberous foods you are going to be on a very low carbohydrate diet where you will need to get adequate ANIMAL fats, and be eating the whole animal instead of just muscle meats. you will need to adjust to VLC and may not be in a state where you can handle a VLC diet.
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Fiber only becomes "bad" if eaten in excess. If is eaten in excess and developed issues, then it will take some while to heal from it and normalize body's reaction to it.
Instead of removing, best to try and find your personal limit, and stay below it. Though to heal from the damage done, for a time it might be necessary to cut it out completely, at least until is healed.
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Jessica,
Very helpful response! thank you! i will look into soil based bacteria supplements.
ive ordered raw coconut creme, raw butter, grass fed ground beef. Waiting for them to arrive.
I noticed a drastic improvement in BM transit time when i eliminate high fiber foods.
For now i will limit them to ripe fruit, fermented vegetables, cooked and cooled resistant starches.
For some reason i did not digest raw fish very well. hopefully i do much better with ground beef.
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my biggest problem is never having the urge to go...
Stools vary in shape, size, and consistency. Most of the time they are a 2 on the Bristol Stool Chart. in past couple days avocados have causes 1s.
I rarely get a type 4, when i do they are hard for me to force out.
Im looking into exercises that will help bring back function of my Pelvic floor.
Second concern is on and off abdominal pain...
First started upper mid right abdominal region. I believe it is right where Liver/Gallbladder/Duodenum Area. Could be Ulcer from Tahini/peanut butter(which ive stopped eating), or bile problem from to much KerryGold(still eating). A Rash has developed over the area of pain.
My obliques and thighs have itching rash all over them. My brother thinks its inflammation from cooked/processed foods.
Anyone that can help explain any of these problems i welcome your input, i have zero judgement!
I am considering raw milk fast(1-2weeks), i read its a cure for almost every digestive disorder. Just have to find a quality source. Im in the process of getting membership for Amos Millers Farm.
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What "pelvic floor function" are you trying to restore? I guess I'm thinking of urinary or fecal incontinence or erectile dysfunction.
In the Bristol Stool Chart, "4" is not hard to pass - it is formed yet soft. Even a "3" passes easily, but it is not as soft. If you are calling your "4" hard-to-pass, then you are misunderstanding the chart. A "1" or a "2" may look smoother than the chart, but hard-to-pass is the big identifier.
I think your brother has a good idea. You'll never know how good it can get until you try raw, unprocessed, high-quality foods.
But another thing I want to say is, "Are you always this high-strung about stuff?" I know, it's a harsh question, but you come across as all tied in knots, and your intestines will mirror your anxiety in terms of poor digestion. You may be one of those people who have to let it all go - all the anxiety about health and diet - before you get the results you want. I'm like that in some ways - if I overthink what I eat, I go crazy. If I just define my "diet" as whole foods, I don't get stuck in overthinking. Then, when it's mealtime, I don't cook my food. Simple.
P.S. Miller's shipping to California is quite costly. but their product prices are good. Just a pro and a con.
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Eveheart,
I struggle with ed,chronic constipation, zero urge to go. I am highly stressed individual for many reasons. horrible muscular/spinal imbalances, terrible relationships, financial problems, stress from work/hockey/school... the list goes on.
I am currently in NJ for next month which is why im looking at Amos Miller/Uddermilk. In 1-2 months ill be home in california where i can wind down and relax.
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Yes, I can hear all that stress. A long time ago, I heard the advice to never eat when you are stressed out, and I thought, Geesh, I would never get to eat! I know you are working on "everything" right now, so you don't have to hear more advice to calm down.
Where do you live when you are in California?
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San Diego, I miss home very much. Can't wait to go back.
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Ive read about only eating when happy/clear state of mind. It makes sense, but my life is to stressful right now to follow that rule
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Is coconut cream a laxative?
I received my shipment from Original living coconut, ate almost 15oz through out the day. A table spoon or two here and there. This morning had very runny stools.
I assumed it was a safe raw fat source, I have a hard time believing raw butter or animal fats would have the same effect.
Good Samaritan. U might be able to answer this best.
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Unless they've separated out and only selling the fat, it has a fair amount of carbs. I think we discussed before and someone thought it was raw,, but that seems improbably as it most likely comes from over seas? Also because it's processed your Stop won't be there, and like me with coconut oil there's no way of knowing what your body really needs/wants. Any excess and it tries to get rid of. But GS,, go for it...
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I think origonal living coconut is in Georgia. And it's definently only the fàt. AV approved company, low temp processing and cold pack shipped to me. Ferments in 5 days.
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A_Tribe_Called_Paleo, are you eating coconut oil (only the fat) or coconut cream (fiber has been removed, but fat and carbs remain - it's really just coconut milk without added water)?
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Sorry, I'm eating Coconut cream, not coconut oil. Says per serving fiber is .3g, 1%
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I think origonal living coconut is in Georgia. And it's definently only the fàt. AV approved company, low temp processing and cold pack shipped to me. Ferments in 5 days.
And how are you fermenting it?
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I made a bulk order(12 15oz jars), and when I spoke to Original Living Coconut employee over the phone, he said it would naturally ferment in 5 days. He recommended I buy a version with honey and lime added to delay fermentation. He said the fermented coconut cream was still edible, but an unpleasant taste. I bought 12 unflavored jars because I didn't know what effects lime and honey would have on the cream.
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a thought for you to consider. Over the last many emails, you've directed your attention to all sorts of remedies, or ideal foods etc. Here you've ordered a Lot of product, which you know will ferment.... It most likely be overwhelmingly easy for you to overeat past what you're body is telling you, simply because you have invested the time and money to have it shipped to you, and the possible belief system that you've accumulated (from AV?) as what you're to expect health wise. I recognize this pattern, for I still do it. So, as I say to myself, simply take notice.
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Coconut creme is just a source of raw fat. Just wondering if it's has a laxative effect.
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Coconut creme is just a source of raw fat. Just wondering if it's has a laxative effect.
The effect of food in moderation is completely different from the effect of food in excess. Also, the ongoing effect of whole foods eaten in moderation may be completely different from the initial effect of whole foods. I'd say that, under conditions of ongoing moderation, fat has a lubricating effect... so once you start eating a moderate diet, try moderate amounts of coconut cream and see what it does to you.
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Had a difficult day today. Work was busy and extremely stressful.
Wasn't able to have a BM despite abdominal pain and terrible gas.
Came across this article http://stomachbloating.net/peppermint-essential-oil-uses-for-constipation-and-bloating/ (http://stomachbloating.net/peppermint-essential-oil-uses-for-constipation-and-bloating/)
Right before bed Added a little frontier peppermint oil to AVs nut formula. Hopefully have success in the morning.
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Only a couple hours of eating AVs formula, I feel terrible..... I'm tired of listening to this man. Idk why he was held in such high regards. Never again will I try one of his bogus cure recipes.
Immediately cutting out all raw honey. Strictly for topical application, no need to ingest.
Small amounts of Fruits, raw meat, and eggs from now on.
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Many of AVs recommendations don't suit me at all, though don't get discouraged from trying new things.
Fermented coconut cream sounds gross to me. I like my coconuts fresh, any kind of fermentation on it and I cant eat it. Coconut cream is a wonderful and healing food, but it is best when fresh, and without additives or sweeteners.
It may not be an option for you but I would highly recommend making your own coconut cream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doNk1gamdew (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doNk1gamdew)
I've just started to make my own, and it is fantastic, though the process is labor intensive. I hope to be able to order bulk coconuts in the near future so I can lessen my dependency on store bought coconut butter.
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A note of the laxative effect of coconut.
It depends on the individual, the amount eaten and the tolerance you build up to it.
If you have never eaten a whole coconut and one day eat an entire one, you may experience a heavy laxative effect. This effect diminishes after a while and you build up a tolerance to it. Much like Tom Hanks in castaway.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doNk1gamdew (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doNk1gamdew)
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Are you sure is a good idea for you eat the nut mix? Since nuts are hard to digest it sounds like a bad idea to me.
To keep my bowls working during difficult time I have around a tablespoon each of pysillium husks, slippery elm bark, and potato starch, with black walnut, turmeric and black pepper.
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I read black pepper could irritate the gut. They suggest replacing it with Cayenne pepper, or something milder if you're not fund of spicy food.
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I've stayed clear of all spices for about a month now as I read they can worsen IBS. Fresh ginger root is an exception, I've read it helps constipation sufferers.
My condition seemed to be getting better, at least one BM per day. Past two days it's returned to abdominal pain, bloated feeling, gas, constant gurgling sounds, and constipation.
Situation is getting so stressful I'm thinking of quitting my hockey season/job early and going home. I hate to do that to my team, but I'm not seeing any other options.
I'm really focusing on avoiding laxatives, and trying to build a stronger/healthier gut.
Nut formula definently set me pack in my progress, worst abdominal pain I've felt in awhile. I am removing myself from the PD Facebook page, their suggestions have caused ill effects, which they always swear is some sort of Detox.... The green apple/EVOO helped nicely, but it calls for too much raw honey, which I'm stopping.
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A note of the laxative effect of coconut.
It depends on the individual, the amount eaten and the tolerance you build up to it.
If you have never eaten a whole coconut and one day eat an entire one, you may experience a heavy laxative effect. This effect diminishes after a while and you build up a tolerance to it. Much like Tom Hanks in castaway.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doNk1gamdew (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doNk1gamdew)
AVs followers swore by coconut cream, it helped the first day but hasn't since. The jars have different consistencies. The first one was more a liquid, the rest have been more creamy. I have more consistent results with just regular kerrygold gold butter, and it's 5 times less expensive....
My stools seem to dry out if I eat too much fiber or not enough fat. I have to be very careful what I eat.
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Maybe potato starch could help somewhat? Food for gut bacteria, thus improved digestion.
I began taking 4 tbsp of potato starch a day (about a week full now), and now seem to be able to handle somewhat larger amounts of plant stuff in general. And overall feeling better.
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You can almost bet that unless you shelled yourself this years crop of nuts, soaked them for a few days to get rid of anti nutrients,, that your formula was causing you harm. I wish you could simply stay middle of the road with raw paleo and not veer into so many cures. Nummi suggestion holds merit, as I think my experience with dark green leek leaves for building gut flora and hence healing that which isn't moving for you. Your body will cleanse itself over time, but not if you assault it all kinds of 'formulas' that may or may not have worked for others. Remember when someone swears by some food, often they have replaced that food for possible other injurious foods. Hence it simply may be the elimination of junk by their allegiance to seeking better health. Every time you give into a formula you are detracting from finding your own balance.
and I'll say it again, hundreds of people have benefited from cassia pods. I personally did them for years, even though I had not constipation.
And eating blended nut butters before bed for me would be disaster. For that matter, blended nut butters period.
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Maybe potato starch could help somewhat? Food for gut bacteria, thus improved digestion.
I began taking 4 tbsp of potato starch a day (about a week full now), and now seem to be able to handle somewhat larger amounts of plant stuff in general. And overall feeling better.
not very familiar with potato starch, mine as well try. Do i need to get a RAW version? is bobs red mill a good quality potato starch. How does it work/how do i use it?
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Van,
its taken me awhile to figure it out, but i realize now a 100% raw paleo is the only path, and answer for a permanent fix.
I am most likely quitting my hockey team, and returning to california.
Raw sea food did not seem to digest so well for me. Hopefully i have better sucess with gf beef.
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With sea food, find that which tastes good to you. Never eat anything that you don't enjoy, and stop eating before full.
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tribe i would encourage you to listen to your body. if i was in your position i would definitely end the season early and get home asap to rest up and work on healing. any more and it seems like you are just putting yourself further in a hole. it seems like a lot of really stubborn people, myself included, think they need to be on their death bed to justify taking time off to care for themselves when in reality the most responsible thing you can do for yourself and others is correct the issue as soon as you notice it and are aware of what changes to make. it seems like you are pretty sure. a lot of anxiety, pain and disease is caused by holding onto expectations that are clearly unrealistic and detrimental.
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not very familiar with potato starch, mine as well try. Do i need to get a RAW version? is bobs red mill a good quality potato starch. How does it work/how do i use it?
All potato starch should be raw, I don't think it can even be produced with heat. Unless they later apply heat. I don't really know how they mass-produce it. Personally I use a general potato starch from the store, so far works.
The homemade process is grinding up raw potatoes, putting the mass into a cloth, then pressing all the liquid out to a bowl or something, then adding water to the dry mass and repeating, and repeating. Then letting the watery liquid sit for some hours so the starch would settle down to the bottom.
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Why not talk to a psychiatrist/therapist before quitting the team? Quitting could create new stress.
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Why not talk to a psychiatrist/therapist before quitting the team? Quitting could create new stress.
something to consider, i had not thought of doing that. Even though ive invested my whole life into hockey the cons are out weighing the pros. Its a difficult decision. My father is in town this weekend, and ill have to talk everything over with him.
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I'm more in favor of getting through stressful situations than quitting, and in favor of pulling yourself together, no matter what it takes. Toughing it out will be better "practice" for all the other max-stress times you will face in your life.
What Jessica says is true, too; not seeing you or talking to you in person makes it hard to really know how sick you are vs how much you are stressing yourself out.
But the bottom line: you know the quote, "That which does not kill you makes you stronger."
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i guess you have to figure out what is more important. if you quit the season now, its possible you will be able to stop doing damage to your body and get on the road to recovery. maybe you will have to figure out how to participate in that lifestyle in a different and healthier capacity for yourself.
i think seeking counseling might be a good idea, but be sure to do plenty of introspection and write it down. look at that before and especially AFTER the counseling session just to be sure you are holding true to your own needs and not letting someone manipulate you into or out of a situation. you might even write down how you feel after counseling and compare notes. it might even be a good idea to do that before you talk to your dad so you know what is true for you and what is other peoples agenda.
even my advice to you is filtered through my experience, i see you and your body calling out much as mine did. i wish i would have taken the time to rest at least 5 years before i did, but i spent 5 years after getting the call burning myself to the bone because i had really ridiculous expectations for myself that i clung onto out of pride and also really just not being kind enough to myself to truly honor what i was feeling.
i think the "that which does not kill you makes you stronger" quote is pretty harsh, there is no way i will ever be a physically able as i used to be, and i would trade that for some of the mental and spiritual strength i have gained through this journey any day to be honest. i think physical health and strength do wonders to lend resiliency to the emotional and spiritual body.
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Potato starch is easily obtainable raw, by juicing potatoes, letting it sit for a couple of minutes and the starch will fall to the bottom. Pretty simple.
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i think the "that which does not kill you makes you stronger" quote is pretty harsh...
Yes, that quote is a wry commentary on life, intentionally so. "Shit happens!" is along the same vein. Life's bottom line: whatever stress you don't master will keep on presenting itself to you; the longer you resist learning how to cope, the longer you will suffer. Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.
i think physical health and strength do wonders to lend resiliency to the emotional and spiritual body.
It goes the other way, too: if you learn to master your emotional and spiritual bodies, your health will improve.
Tribe_, Jessica and I are giving you opposite advice, but there is no "who is right and who is wrong" here. I hope you can use both perspectives to find your own, and realize that Jessica doesn't always "quit" and I don't always "stay" in stressful situations. And as Jessica said, the in-your-own-head conversation that you develop as you go through this situation is very important, so do pay attention to what you are thinking, to what you really want.
For example, what if you realize that you don't want to continue with hockey? It's not that easy to think that now, because those other voices in your head will argue that you have always loved hockey. You might worry about what others will think if you decide that this level of hockey playing is not fun. Concerns like that can cloud your vision, but don't worry because so many people change their mind. You have a right to change yours, too. You might even get stuck because you don't know what you really want to do, but it is not necessary to know what you want to do next before you quit going in the wrong direction.
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With only 18 days left in the regular season, 7 games, I'm going to try and tough it out.
My team currently trains together under a crossfit coach, doing team circuits/competitions. While fun, they put lots of strain on my body.
Going to ask our trainer to give me more of a specialized workout specific to my needs, so I can correct my neck,spine,hips ect... Restorative yoga is helping my knees ankles and feet so much, also lower back.
I've started eating 1/2lb raw ground beef(seared for 30sec on ea side) with raw eggs, Kerry gold.
I'm only searing It because it's not organic. No issues so far. If I get my hands on organic I will try 100% raw.
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You might want to look into the Gokhale method for your musculoskeletal problems. It's basically paleo posture/movement.
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Ok I'll check it out, thanks!
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Ate about half pound of pretty raw grass fed beef shank. Seared for only about 1minutes total. Only a thin layer of brown/grey on the outside, everything else raw. It was soooo hard to chew.... I much prefer eating raw ground beef.
I ate it with raw eggs, butter, sliced lime, and some sauerkruat.
Hopefully i have positive results.
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Ate about half pound of pretty raw grass fed beef shank. Seared for only about 1minutes total. Only a thin layer of brown/grey on the outside, everything else raw. It was soooo hard to chew.... I much prefer eating raw ground beef.
I are it with raw eggs, butter, sliced lime, and some sauerkruat.
Hopefully i have positive results.
The shank of beef is very tendony and sinewy. Select a different cut for a different experience, such as reasonably-price cuts from the rump. Try London broil, eye of round, rump roast, cuts like that. I pay less than $10/pound for grassfed.
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Ok, I will look for those cuts today. I chose Shank because it was cheapest.
Does anyone know if veal has to be grassfed? Or is it raised on mothers milk?
The veal at WF doesn't say gf, but it looks tender/fatty and is cheap bc it's local.
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Does anyone know if veal has to be grassfed? Or is it raised on mothers milk?
The veal at WF doesn't say gf, but it looks tender/fatty and is cheap bc it's local.
Of course, you must ask your supplier and sometimes the ranch to get the answer to your question, but be aware that veal is often fed "milk replacer" instead of milk... and veal calves are often housed in feedlots and are subject to sickness because of their housing situation. (Read: might need antibiotics.) Even if veal calves are given only cows's milk, it's not like they are suckling from the cow.
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I wouldn't support practices where the animal is fed anything in a cage.
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Ok I didn't known this about veal. Won't be buying any from WF anytime soon.
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So far I've tried mackerel raw, ground beef, beef shank, and lamb shoulder slightly seared for 1minute.
I feel like ground beef and lamb was most easily digested. Beef shank was difficult, was very bloated/gassy for next 24 hrs after eating. Raw mackerel was the hardest to digest.
How long should I wait to make the transition into fully raw meat(lamb,ground beef)? I want to jump right in but I don't want to run into any digestive problems again, like my first 8 day fight with constipation. I'm not sure how healthy my gut is either, possible leaky gut, and candida could be a problem. I'm eating enzyme rich foods to aid digestion lemon, lime, papaya, kiwi, ACV. They seem to help a lot. I'm doing anything I can to make digestion as easy as possible.
Any tips for eating raw meat? I know to avoid raw meat and full vegetables together. Any safe combinations that could help aid digestion?
With the current health of my gut, should I be concerned about worms/parasites? I know a healthy individual doesn't need to worry. From what I've read here maybe eating garlic and onions with rawest would help against parasites/worms? I know GS uses herbs for himself and his son. Hopefully raw meat and onions doesn't cause any digestive havoc.
I just don't want to run into anymore digestive problems. I've come a long way with the help of this forum. I'm now eliminating each morning, and sometimes night too. Consistency is good, just lack the feeling/urge to go. Which I think is a spine/nerve/blood flow issue. I hope raw meat will help this too!
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I cut my season short, and am now currently back in San Diego.
The drive back was tough. 4 days, 10-12 hours of driving a day. Stopped every 3-4 hours to do a little running, stretching.
Ate only fruit, raw ground beef, raw eggs, and butter.
Was only able to manage 1 BM whole trip.
On the way back i Listened to tons of podcasts about IBS. Its possible my problem could be a parasite/worm infestation. I am going to try bowel and liver flushes to see what comes out.
Parasites seem like they can cause a huge problem on a rpd if you have a compromised gut. I should have healed gut before jumping into diet.
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had red blobs in my BM today. At first i thought it was blood, but it looked to solid.
Could it be undigested ground beef? Has this happened to anyone before?
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remaining symptoms fatigue, gas, bloating, abdominal pains, alternating between Diarrhea and Constipation, and Lack of feeling/urge to go.
I've been emailing Barefoot Herbalist for a while now, and ive Decided to use his LBB(lower bowel balance) capsules, and PWA Formula for 90 days. his recommendation was 9 LBB caps per day, and 1 tbsp PWA morning and night.
He also recommends a 21-40 day OJ + Distilled water Fast. I dont understand his reasoning for using OJ, but i have read about many benefits of fasting. Has anyone experimented/benefit from a fast? I feel like a bone broth fast would be more nourishing. I feel like my Digestive system, and organs have just been over worked from 18 or so years on a SAD diet, and need time to heal.
If anyone has any experience with Barefoots products, please share!
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'healers' often will prescribe some protocol. But the more challenging 'protocol' is to find balance for the rest of your life, and let your body heal itself. That takes patience and being connected to Yourself. Much different than going 'out' and finding some instantaneous or quick fix that the mind can at least for the moment believe in,,, till the next attraction comes along.
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I agree with van. Sounds like you are already having ideas on what might work better for you, like broth fasting.Try it. See how you feel. Maybe you just need one day, maybe you need to have broth replace a meal, maybe it helps you find moderation, maybe not. To with what feels best to you. 18 years of diet and who knows how many years of over exertion is A LOT to heal from, it will take time and it's best if you are practical, moderate and patient. Be gentle and kind to yourself .
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Long-distance healing (internet, phone, etc) is a poor way to diagnose and treat someone. Even when listening carefully to the symptoms you describe, the diagnostic tool of subtle observation is missing. More important, your own sensory feedback is overlooked. In this case, the symptoms (fatigue, gas, bloating, abdominal pains, bowel movement problems) are your main focus. Instead, learn to use taste, smell, and other sensory responses you get from unprocessed food to guide you to the right foods for you.
I don't know much about your current practice of eating RPD since you returned to California, but even if I assume you have eaten a species-appropriate, raw, unprocessed diet for the last few weeks, I'd urge you to start from there and follow your own wisdom, which will develop in time.
First and foremost, you need to learn to be confident in your own wisdom. Your lack of confidence can potentially make you the target of everyone with a slick sales pitch. And I don't mean that as a dismissal of any particular healer or of any specific supplements and protocols. I'm saying this because you don't seem to trust your own decision. Trying different things is good for discovery, but deciding to try these supplements when your inner voice says "bone broth" can lead to a lot of inner conflict.
And yes, I have tried diluted o.j. and LBB formula and all that. My family's experience is that paleo, especially bone broth, is outstanding for all types of healing, and my own experience is that RPD is the highest healer of all.
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I've fasted for seven days twice before and it just made me feel really tired.
Much better is intermittent fasting, for a single day every week or two, or eating one meal a day only after you get really hungry, and/or limiting yourself to one food type, such as a seven day raw vegetable fast, or raw meat fast. Or possibly one piece of fruit three times a day would be another fast that would work for some people.
You could try a bone broth fast.
I've been though all sorts of supplements and pills and portions and at the end of it all it was hard to tell if any of them made any difference.
For me the best supplement while getting off an irritable bowel causing combination of modern food and parasites, which would first create diarrhea and then constipation and lower back pain, was a tablespoon each of psyllium husk, slippery elm bark and potato starch.
Turmeric and black pepper soaked in olive oil has very good reports as being one of the best herbal treatments, it's worth a Google.
I found that two sessions each with a ChiGong energy healer, who channeled Chi to my stomach, and with a natural healer, who balanced my chakras, to be very helpful.
And also listening to guided meditation / hypnosis, there's several available on YouTube, just choose something with a positive message and a nice voice.
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Thanks for the replies everyone. you all make good points, i will try and approach things with more confidence. During my time in New Jersey I was eating inferior quality raw meats from WholeFoods and Trader Joes. Since back in Caifornia ive been eating Mainly local grown fruits n veggies from Farmers Market, and raw beef from Homegrown Meats, a local farm Eve shared with me. Their meat is so expensive i can only afford to eat it 2-3 times a week. But after hearing Dr. Sutter's interview on parasites/worms http://www.oneradionetwork2.com/mp3/health/cleansing/sutter_kenneth_june_19_parasites_liver_flush_agent_orange_fatigue_healing_natural.mp3, (http://www.oneradionetwork2.com/mp3/health/cleansing/sutter_kenneth_june_19_parasites_liver_flush_agent_orange_fatigue_healing_natural.mp3,)
I will never eat inferior WF/trader joes meat again. I wish i had heard this before.
This is interview, along with my constant gas/bloating, back and forth Constipation/Diarrhea, and abdominal pain is what sold me on trying Barefoot's 90 day LBB/PWA Deworming protocol. I truely believe i could have an infestation caused by industrial chemicals, and inferior quality meat.
Thanks for the advice everyone. I will approach his protocol with confidence, and substitute his OJ fast with a Bone Broth equivalent.
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...raw beef from Homegrown Meats, a local farm Eve shared with me. Their meat is so expensive i can only afford to eat it 2-3 times a week.
With a good-but-expensive source of GF meats, you can look around and ask about other sources. After four years of searching, I'm still finding newer and better meats, and that's just with casual looking around.
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Eve, im still looking. Theres 3 farms local to me that i have visited and trust. Homegrown is the cheapest of the 3. Im trying to avoid meat that would have to be shipped to me.
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Homegrown looks like the kind of place that'll do special orders. For instance, they might give you free fat trimmings. Also, ask about the cuts that they use in their ground beef and see if you can get those for the ground-beef price under $10.
Also, ask about brains or the whole head. If they wonder, you can say that you are using it for cabeza (stewed head, contents all mashed together to make tasty tacos).
But having said that, beef heads are huge, and I only eat smaller heads like lamb and goat.
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I've started eating 1/2lb raw ground beef(seared for 30sec on ea side) with raw eggs, Kerry gold.
I'm only searing It because it's not organic. No issues so far. If I get my hands on organic I will try 100% raw.
FWIW I did the same thing and with the same thinking for over 2 years and didn't see any major benefit until I started eating meat 100% raw, a little over 2 months ago.
In my view, the reason you want organic and grassfed is because it'll have less toxins, especially in the fat and organs. The bacteria are not what's bad for you from factory farmed meat, it's the toxins. And when you cook it, you make the toxins more easily absorbed, as you break the bonds that existed in the animal body, that your own digestive system can recognize and eliminate before too much is absorbed. What's more, when you partially cook it, the bacteria from the raw part will create toxic byproducts when they eat the cooked parts which are toxic for them.
If you can't find organic or wild meat of any kind, just have the raw lean muscle tissue without the fat. That is pretty low on toxins. You can have some other source of fats, like organic, unvaccinated, pastured eggs, or avocados. This is what I'm doing for the most part, and although my fat intake is much lower than I would prefer, and my protein intake is much higher by proportion, it's working pretty well.
If the reason for searing it is psychological (so that you can tell yourself it's not raw but rare), and you want to give it a cooked color, you can marinate it in lemon juice. Works particularly well with ground beef (or any other ground meats). Mix 1lb ground beef to 5-7oz lemon juice. Within a few minutes after mixing it well, you will have a bowl of ground beef that looks totally cooked, but isn't. Or if you only want the outside to look that way, you won't be needing much lemon juice at all, just enough to cover the outside for a short time. I usually add spicy things like garlic, onion, ginger or hot peppers, but you don't have to. Also a couple eggs mixed in there go great (meaning you can't taste them at all), but they'll stick to the meat and separate some the lemon juice out, so add them after the meat has your desired color.
Also, if you're interested, the whole idea of searing meat to kill bacteria comes from the concept that the outside part of the meat cuts is contaminated during the butchery process (from bacteria in the intestinal tract and/or other bacteria from the outside environment), but that the inside of the muscle or organs is sterile (which it isn't, but that's another issue). If you sear ground beef, but the inside is raw, that doesn't even work under that paradigm, because what used to be the outside of the cut of meat is now mixed all over the place, not just on the outside of it. So the fact that you've been doing this means it's perfectly safe to do 100% raw. You'll probably get detoxes as your body adapts and utilizes the new nutrients, but that's something else.
Btw, I also believe personally that meat of any kind that has been frozen loses a lot of nutrients, but others here disagree. I mention that because I noticed that a lot of the sources for organic meats come frozen since most of their customers don't seem to care, and it makes it easier for storage and shipping.
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My barefoot herbalist products arrived today. Going to start them tomorrow.
Also going to get a check up from my doc, see if i can learn anything from him. Going to ask for blood test, maybe hair test. Any other beneficial tests they can run?
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If anyone has ever used barefoots Lbbs and PWA, id like to ask you a few questions. Ive been taking them for past 5 days now, 9 lbb caps with 2 tbsp Pwa daily.
they made me very bloated up until day 3, when i had very runny stools. past 2 days have been having pretty regular BMs.
Im now starting on a 7 day OJ fast, with some home made bone broth as well. Im hoping if gives my system a much needed rest, and time for any repair it might need.
Barefoot recommends a colon flush/enema every night while doing a fast... is this necessary, i would definitely like to avoid them.
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#1 a simple water enema is too darn easy to do. Enemas are no brainers. Everyone should know how to do them for themselves or for their kids. It's a tool. You do them during fasts when you have no bowel movement for the day. Because you want the flow of waste to go out the back door instead of staying within your system.
#2 When you have very runny stools, you are taking TOO MANY LBB capsules. You may have not understood the instructions correctly. Your dosage of LBB per day depends on your PERSONAL activation dose. For example, my 1st born son's activation dose is 1 capsule per day. My wife is 1 capsule per day. My 2nd son is 2 capsules per day. My personal activation dose was 6 capsules per day. My grandma's activation dose was 8 capsules per day.
Your activation dose is 1 capsule below the runny stools so your poop feels just right.
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experiencing VERY bad breath on third day of OJ Fast. Have not had any bone broth yet.
What could this be a sign of? Candida? I also read it could be liver problem. Anyone else experienced this?
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Make up your mind if you want the effect of a rigorous cleanse. Mobilized toxins must exit the body through the four eliminative pathways: breath, skin, urine, intestines. The effects can include bad breath, coated tongue, nasal discharge, skin eruptions, body odor, foul-smelling urine, foul-smelling feces, and much, much more. To expedite matters, you should be skin dry-brushing, taking enemas if necessary, and bathing often. If your health adviser hasn't prepared you for the side effects and what to do to assist your fast, ask for that instruction now.
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experiencing VERY bad breath on third day of OJ Fast. Have not had any bone broth yet.
What could this be a sign of? Candida? I also read it could be liver problem. Anyone else experienced this?
Why would you eat bone broth when doing a diluted Orange Juice fast?
And you probably need to be posting at the Ask Barefoot forum.