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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => Health => Topic started by: goodsamaritan on August 10, 2009, 11:01:45 pm
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My son has been diagnosed with TB. Story below. Need your insights and advice.
http://www.myhealthblog.org/2009/08/09/malnutrition-primary-complex-cure-plan-for-my-8-year-old-son/
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My son has been diagnosed with TB. Story below. Need your insights and advice.
http://www.myhealthblog.org/2009/08/09/malnutrition-primary-complex-cure-plan-for-my-8-year-old-son/
Wow, what a tragedy!
BCG vaccination is probably the cause.
I agree with the 3 first points, and IMHO, the other points are not necessary.
4. Milk is not tolerated by everybody and contains casein, lactose, hormones, etc. that cannot help your son.
5. Cod liver oil is always heated, and not required when grassfed fat is available.
6. Vegetable juices are full of toxins, antinutrients, pesticides, etc. and don't bring any essential nutrients. It will hurt your son's digestive system.
7. Why not raw fat instead of cooked fat ?
8. You son's organism needs also some rest. Why force-feed him ? Why cooked meat ?
This does not look like a low carb diet : coconut juice, water melon, a lot of dragon fruit, rambutan.
I hope you'll find a cure for your son.
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As Carnivore says,and I would add that it is of the utmost importance to avoid milk and anything cooked. Let him eat what he wants and what he likes as long as it is raw, unprocessed, unmixed and as wild as possible. What about water buffalo meat instead of or in addition to beef, as a choice? Do not force feed him: if is not hungry let him fast for a while or eat just a little bit, drinking plain water and/or coconut water.
Don't let him sleep under corrugated iron sheets, it gets wet in the night with condensation and try to move him away from polluted air (I don't know if you live in city ?).
Kids grow up slower without dairy products, don't worry about that: he'll catch up later.
Beware of gurus, medics included, and trust his own body self-healing power ! That's the best you can do and it'll be enough for him to heal.
Francois
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I think plenty of rest, raw animal fat, moderate raw animal protein or even better organs like liver (or heart etc), and low/very low or even zero carbs. Plenty of mineral water (of course not excessive), and not much quantity-wise for meals as digestion takes a signicant ammount of energy, so moderate. Minimise stress, like computer games, tv, intensive exercise etc. Maximise de-stressors, a little reading, walks, things that are fun like gental family games. Plenty of fresh air, and a moderate ammount of sunshine and light exercise, or very light exercise (like walks). Plenty of sleep, but not excessive.
If one insists on spices/herbs for certain reasons (like stimulating immune system) I would personally suggest them in the absolute smallest quantities. The body if give the environment it has adapted to it will run optimally, and although I can appreciate certain responces can be achieve using various herb remedies - i think they may be simultaneously stressing the body in doing so.
I think there is also an importance of listenning to signals your body gives, while being armed with the knowledge you have learnt.
I wish him all the best goodsamaritan, I will be thinking of him, and your family.
Sincerely
David
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I would suggest the conventional medical approach in this case(ie drugs and antibiotics). I know that's not popular on this forum but TB is a serious condition and given the bacterial nature of TB it might be best to have an antibacterial approach. Of course, antibacterial herbs like garlic are also an option.
Also, last I checked, milk is the worst thing one can drink re TB. Raw milk was heavily implicated in TB cases, a century ago.
Re cod liver oil:- There is at least 1 genuinely raw cod liver oil from Blue Ice(fermented) and there may be others. In the past, of course, all cod liver oil was raw/fermented.
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I would suggest the conventional medical approach in this case(ie drugs and antibiotics).
Perhaps you're right. But you can also get natural, ancestral antibiotics by letting mildew or mold develop in a broken coconut. It can turn to have a good taste, especially if one needs it.
Also, last I checked, milk is the worst thing one can drink re TB. Raw milk was heavily implicated in TB cases, a century ago.
I'm not surprised !
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This does not look like a low carb diet : coconut juice, water melon, a lot of dragon fruit, rambutan.
Until there will be kids entirely grown up from birth to healthy adults exclusively on their mother's milk followed by low carbs or zero carbs, it's advisable to see the zero carbs diet as an unproven and speculative theory. Only conclusive experimentation can validate a theory.
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Don't mean to scare you, but I think Tyler has a good point. TB is one of the diseases that killed many of the Native Americans who were eating much healthier than most people today, including lots of wild meats, so there is no guarantee that a raw Paleo diet would help the immune system beat the infection.
If I had TB I would use my Paleo diet as a support of conventional treatment, rather than a replacement. I do best on raw wild or pasture-fed meats and fats and water, but there's no guarantee that he would too. Children are an especially difficult situation. You should discuss what you can with the doctor, however, if you mention raw meat I'm thinking he might consider whether he should take the child away from you, so this is a difficult quandary. So I don't have any answers, just some thoughts and questions that I hope spark some of your own.
I think Tyler is right about any kind of nonhuman milk too. It is widely known that over 90% of Asians are lactose intolerant, so I cannot imagine giving him any milk.
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If I had TB I would use my Paleo diet as a support of conventional treatment, rather than a replacement. I do best on raw wild or pasture-fed meats and fats and water, but there's no guarantee that he would too. Children are an especially difficult situation. You should discuss what you can with the doctor, however, if you mention raw meat I'm thinking he might consider whether he should take the child away from you, so this is a difficult quandary. So I don't have any answers, just some thoughts and questions that I hope spark some of your own.
"If I had TB I would use my Paleo diet as a support of conventional treatment, rather than a replacement"
I forgot this very important point, and stupidly assumed this as generally agreed upon.
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Thank you for the inputs everyone. Keep them coming. I know I can count on you guys.
I have a "conventional" TB germ killing protocol using the Beam Ray machine. This should be able to replace the usual anti-biotics which operate indiscriminately killing good bacteria as well. Beam ray targets specifically the TB germs and 1 week of every other day Beam Ray treatments is all you need instead of 6 months of antibiotics.
Just looking for safer, less dangerous methods out there. TB drugs are out there and we know the dangers of anti-biotics... they're not entirely safe and may be fatal for some. TB drugs is our last resort if all the other methods fail.
He's not coughing, no sniffles, thanks to an almost paleo diet save for rice the past few months. He's been rice less for 2 days now... whoopee.
His day today was an almost raw paleo diet day... http://www.myhealthblog.org/2009/08/11/8-year-old-boy-gunning-for-raw-paleo-diet-day-2/
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Tyler & PD make a good point.
Remember that TB is a bacteria...and there are several strains of it. Do they know which one caused his TB?
That will give them the insight to proper treatment.
The other thing to remember is that it may NOT be from the vaccine. TB is spread easily without direct contact (it lives in spit, the air, on surfaces, etc.) and, as such, infects millions of people every year. But MOST people's immune systems keep it in check and they never know they have it.
He needs, in addition to the antibiotics to kill off the mycobacteria (he'll likely be on these drugs for up to a year to kill it all), to have his immune system ramped up.
Good raw foods, sunlight, lots of physical activity, and laughter are the best prescription I know of.
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Until there will be kids entirely grown up from birth to healthy adults exclusively on their mother's milk followed by low carbs or zero carbs, it's advisable to see the zero carbs diet as an unproven and speculative theory. Only conclusive experimentation can validate a theory.
This was just to point out that it is not a lowcarb diet contrary to what is written in the link ("Lessen sweet fruits. High fat, low carb dieting.")
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IIRC it was pasteurized milk that was shown to cause TB in the 1800s.
I know not what caused your son's illness, but think that focussing on the germ is a mistake. I agree with Béchamp and Vonderplantiz that germs are an opportunist infection, not a cause.
There have been so many near-miraculous cures from people who do raw zero carb that I would be tempted to try it.
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Please keep us posted about him when you can Goodsamaritan.
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His day today was an almost raw paleo diet day... http://www.myhealthblog.org/2009/08/11/8-year-old-boy-gunning-for-raw-paleo-diet-day-2/
So daddy gets rid of his rice and puts him on mono meals so he can eat more and more and more.
Eat more, more and more… ??
Back in late 50’s or early 60’s a friend of mine had a severe tuberculosis with an appalling medical diagnosis. He fasted for 30 days and completely and definitively self healed without any other means. He died a few years ago at about 85.
I don’t suggest a fast for your son, because we know better now since we have understood that cooked food, grain and dairy are the culprits and suppressing these stuff from our intakes is enough to let our bodies to heal almost every disease – malaria excepted.
Gave him 1 shot 30ml of Ka Rey Herbal for vegetable nutrition
A processed mixture of several plants which is definitely not paleo.
At around 10 am he ate some half cooked beef.
Half cooked… what makes you seem to think that “half cooked” is not as noxious as “completely cooked” ? In fact, it even seems to be worse (réf. Burger’s experiments with mice in the 60’s: http://fr.groups.yahoo.com/group/Ecologie-Alimentaire/message/5934 ). Things in the real world are not linear as our limited understanding and analytic mind makes us believe. A partly or slightly damaged organic molecule might well be more dangerous than a completely wrecked one which would be immediately recognized as such by our immune system and eliminated without being allowed into our metabolism.
A train with one hundred axles won’t be able to reach 95% of its maximum speed if only 5 of its 100 axles are derailed! It’s similar with raw against cooked food: we do not get rid of 95% of the troubles induced by cooked food by eliminating cooked food at 95% or cooking “just a little bit”. It’s in no way a linear relationship.
At around 2 pm he ate a good amount of fresh raw oysters dipped in organic coconut vinegar… he loves oysters. I also gave him fresh raw beef muscle blood and fresh raw beef sirloin muscle meat. Good meal.
Were oysters dipped in vinegar an usual recipe in the Paleolithic era ? Could they easily find almost simultaneously oysters, vinegar... and beef, mix the firsts and eat all this within a few minutes ?
I noticed his lack of appetite and his bad habit of skipping lunch altogether. Seems after being dismissed from class at around 12 noon he has no appetite for lunch and skips it altogether.
I’m teaching the boy that at his age he needs to eat 5 times a day. That a combination of rice and meat is a bad habit as it keeps you full because it is a hard to digest combination.
What about a combination of beef and oysters dipped in vinegar? How do you know that a boy of this age needs to eat 5 times a day, no matter if he’s hungry or not??
I’m setting up my boy for more nutrition soon hopefully with raw cow’s milk from a trusted source. His in between meals will be milk. Maybe instead of coconut juice or fruit he will have milk with fertilized egg mixed in it. My boy is not lactose intolerante. He digests milk very well.
The fact that he digests milk very well doesn’t mean that milk is ok for him. It well might be better not to digest and be allergic to such a food containing molecules able to disrupt our metabolism downstream of digestion. It is well documented today that animal milk can be dangerous for us and is better totally avoided. I didn’t read AV and I have no intention of doing so because I do not need any guru’s advices, especially when the guy teaches some irrational beliefs.
All my whishes of recovery for you son.
Francois
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IIRC it was pasteurized milk that was shown to cause TB in the 1800s.
I know not what caused your son's illness, but think that focussing on the germ is a mistake. I agree with Béchamp and Vonderplantiz that germs are an opportunist infection, not a cause.
Actually, the TB cases were directly due to UNpasteurised milk. It was this that directly led to the promotion of pasteurisation of milk.
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I know not what caused your son's illness, but think that focussing on the germ is a mistake. I agree with Béchamp and Vonderplantiz that germs are an opportunist infection, not a cause.
While I agree with the spirit of this, it does not stand to reason that just because one has a compromised immune system that allows an infection like TB, that the CAUSE of TB is not the germ. The cause of the TB is still the TB germ. It was allowed to grow because of a compromised immune system.
As such, one still has to kill it AND improve the immune system.
If your argument is to ignore the germ to bolster the immune system (thus allowing the immune system to deal with the TB germ), that also makes a certain amount of sense, provided he's predominantly asymptomatic.
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Were oysters dipped in vinegar an usual recipe in the Paleolithic era ?
What about a combination of beef and oysters dipped in vinegar?
Francois,
Why do you say oysters &/or beef dipped in vinegar is paleo? Or have I misunderstood?
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No, I mean just the opposite, it is certainly NOT paleo, of course !
About bacterias and viruses, it seems to me GC Burger's theory has really clarified the dilemma between Pasteur against Bechamp and Tissot : according to GCB’s theory, yes there is contagion, but since known bacterial and virus diseases are, under strict paleo instinctive nutrition, beneficial detox processes, contagion is therefore... beneficial. It is dairy, grain and cooked food that leads to uncontrolled, accentuated and deadly detoxination processes. Of course, if we reintroduce several times daily precisely the kind of noxious molecules that our body is trying to get rid of, it may loose control of a process which was adapted only to small occasional amounts of such molecules.
25. Experience seems to show that most illnesses considered as infectious satisfy the preceding criteria, provided that alimentation strictly respects the norms defined by Anopsotherapy. One must therefore call into question the classical conception of the virus and the bacterium, which may no longer be considered as necessarily pathogenic agents. A virus in fact introduces into the cell a fragment of DNA or RNA which, by microscopic observation, seems to intervene as a sort of complementary program which augments the genetic code and which permits the elimination of various classes of toxins not originally foreseen ; to speak more precisely, non-original molecules. The bacterium, likewise, seems to be used by the organism (which perfectly regulates its multiplication under Anopsotherapeutic conditions) so as to provide, through a "third party", enzymes that can decompose non-original molecules or their undesirable by-products beyond the capabilities of its own enzymes (ones adapted, a priori, to original molecules).
26. Therefore, instead of battling against microbes by the use of antibiotics, vaccines, asepsis, etc..., the role of medicine will be rather to see that the organism succeeds in regulating in a satisfactory way the detoxination processes with which they are associated - perhaps even to seek means of instigating such processes so as to reestablish th integrity of the terrain and prevent true illness. In the present state of affairs, the apparent therapeutic successes obtained in infectious illnesses may be the cause of the rising mortality due to cancer and cardiovascular diseases, through an endemic increase in the incidence of toxemia.
http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/7627/ggtheobasi.html
Cheers
Francois
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Actually, the TB cases were directly due to UNpasteurised milk. It was this that directly led to the promotion of pasteurisation of milk.
This makes no sense.
Imagine an epidemic of TB, which ended when pasteurization was started. No way.
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I know not what caused your son's illness, but think that focussing on the germ is a mistake. I agree with Béchamp and Vonderplantiz that germs are an opportunist infection, not a cause.
There have been so many near-miraculous cures from people who do raw zero carb that I would be tempted to try it.
I think the same way.
Bacteriophages are needed. They are found in large quantities in rotten meat, for example.
Ernest Hanbury Hankin, British bacteriologist, who studied malaria, cholera and other diseases observed in 1886 that Hindu people who drank water from Ganges River did not get sick of cholera. Félix d'Herelle, Canadian microbiologist, discovered that there were special viruses in the water which fighted the bacteria. They were successfully used by him in 1917 to fight dysentery in sick people.
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My boy is not lactose intolerante. He digests milk very well.
Most people who are lactose intolerant display no noticeable symptoms and have no idea that they are. Remember, over 90% of Asians are lactose intolerant and most aren't aware that they are.
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This makes no sense.
Imagine an epidemic of TB, which ended when pasteurization was started. No way.
No way? Why not?
That there is a correlation does not yet even imply causation. No one here has asserted that pasteurization stopped the TB "epidemic"....yet.
That said, I'm not prepared to say pasteurization stopped a TB outbreak yet, but I don't see it as unreasonable. If cooking milk kills the TB bacteria, then cooking milk will stop the spread of milk-related TB. Period.
That in no way implies that cooking milk is the best way to deal with TB. It also does not imply that TB in milk will cause TB in humans who have fully engaged immune systems. By the time we started cooking milk, we had been eating grains and other sources of cheap & unhealthy calories for 10,000+ years. Outbreaks were - and still are - just waiting to happen.
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Goodsamaritan, was your son diagnosed with just TB infection, or with the full blown disease?
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via observation, muscle testing and x-ray shows he has something suggestive of Koch's infection.
And by observation his growth is stunted. 8 years old looks like 6 years old. My next son is turning 6 next month and at the rate they are growing with my 2nd son having a vastly larger appetite, the 2nd son will be be larger next year.
A few months ago my 8 year old had persistent coughs and colds so I clamped down on diet and had them on an almost cooked / raw paleo diet save for rice. That stopped all coughs and colds.
This time I'm able to get rid of rice as well so effectively my son is on a raw meat / cooked meat paleo diet.
Putting the squeeze more until he is on raw meat paleo diet.
BTW, I'm appreciating all the debating! You guys are great!
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What did the doctor recommend, did he view significant lung damage, and is he going to monitor for additional damage from the infection? It can do very serious and even lethal damage if active.
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What did the doctor recommend, did he view significant lung damage, and is he going to monitor for additional damage from the infection? It can do very serious and even lethal damage if active.
Last year the anthroposophic doctor tried her homeopathic and anthroposophic stuff, I let my wife handle that, she likes that doctor, but it wasn't working.
So we took him to another healer who did muscle testing, same observation, but he wanted supplements and zapping. His zapper was painful, I found it painful myself plus I didn't like his supplements.
Took him to another healer... he recommends feeding, physical activity, hydration, shouting, some exercises and more feeding.
X-ray analysis just suggests TB.
Same with the dorn and energy healer, but he saw the bone sticking out of the chest as a non issue, aligned his skeletal system, found that rough spot, diagnosed same large intestine problem as the muscle tester.
BTW for some 2 years ago we detected parasites on the boy. He poops them at times. Pooped some more of them when he is herbal deworming with either barefoot or humaworm. Muscle tester healer said not all the parasite strains have been gotten rid off.
Not much sun here since June, it is rainy season.
My other 5 year old son suffered from a painful eczema breakout almost like mine this year. Everyone in the household saw how easy and methodical his healing went on 1 week of strict raw paleo diet. So we are expecting good results with our 8 year old.
TB is very common in the Philippines. In the 20th century it was the top epidemic in the whole country. I'll post an excerpt in an old mid 20th century book here.
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The following factors contribute to the prevalence of the disease (tuberculosis)
in the Islands (Philippines):
( a ) Poor housing. (not our problem) Housing was a problem even before the war.
During the Pacific battles more than 300,000 homes were destroyed
as a result of fighting and bombings so that the problem is now
much more acute. Whole families have to double up, not in houses,
but in makeshift sheds, shacks, and lean-tos (the barong-barong)
without sanitary facilities. In the razed areas of Manila and its
suburbs, it is not uncommon to find three or four families squeezed
into a shed measuring four by five yards, which leaks like a sieve
during the rainy season and which is as hot as an oven during
the summer months. Thus, spread of infection by close and con-
tinued contact is supremely easy. The War Damage Commission
could do a lot to aid in rehabilitatlon by hastening the settlement
of claims although the results will be limited by the fact that an
individual claimant cannot get more than $500.00.
It must be mentioned here that whole communities have been
wiped out in some areas, the majority of their inhabitants mas-
sacred or maimed. I n Manila virtually every federal building has
been demolished, century-old historic buildings gutted, and some
churches, museums, and libraries burned down. There is no ques-
tion but that there is a dearth of public buildings and private
dwellings in the entire young republic today.
(b) Malnutrition. (filipino traditional diet is malnourishing) Even before the war it was an admitted fact
that the Filipino race was so undernourished that every year
beriberi killed more infants than did respiratory diseases. During
the forty months of Japanese occupation not only did no imports
reach the Philippines due to the blockade but the countryside
llgewtse was stripped to feed and maintain upwards of one million
unwelcome guests (the Japanese Imperial Army had no quarter-
master supplies to speak of). The Japanese saw to it that their
troops lived off the fat of the land, not caring whether the civilians
starved. Hence, avitaminosis reared its head, and malnutrition
contributed to the death of thousands.
Even now when nutrition is better, the high cost of living (the
purchasing value of the peso is only one-fifth of its prewar level)
is still taking its toll. Statisticians are agreed that for the next
few years llving costs wffl remain higher than the prewar level.
(c) Parasitism. (my boy definitely has this) Intestinal parasitism infests about 70 per cent
of the population. Ascariasis. Schistosomiasis, hookworm disease.
tineasis, and amebiasis form the bulwark of Philippine parasites
that choose man for their host. The ascarids, hookworm, schisto-
somes and strongylids, as they pass through the lungs in their
life cycle, may cause some injury to the pulmonary tissue on their
way to their respective habitat in the human body. Whether in
this manner they predispose the lung to subsequent lodgment of
the Mycobacterium tuberculosis has not yet been fully ascertained.
I t is a fact, however, that widespread parasitism in the Islands
not only contributes to the production of secondary anemia but so
lowers the resistance of the human host that either latent tuber-
culous foci or other intercurrent diseases may readily break out.
(d) Dust and Fly problem. (we got this) These two are peculiar to the tropics
-as is the mosquito problem. Tropical dust is the most abundant
in the world. Most Philippine highways were concrete or asphalted
before the war, but the Japanese did no maintenance, and thous-
ands of heavy U. S. Army vehicles have pulverized the best of the
asphalted roads during the past two years. The dust of the high-
ways, carried away by tropical winds, gets into your eyes, your
nostrils, and into your every pore. Hence, respiratory diseases
enjoy a Roman holiday during the dry months, thereby activating
many a quiescent tuberculous focus.
As for flies, they can be found in droves every day of the year.
With garbage and sewage disposal extremely inadequate since the
end of the war, fwd, milk and water contamination plays a con-
siderable role in the spread of infectious dlseases.
(e) Economic conditions. (we can still afford paleo diet and hire a few maids and a driver) In addition to inadequate housing, the
traditional low wages prevaliing in the Orient and inflated prices
of fwd and all other commodities contribute to a low constitutional
resistance resulting in malnutrition. Mlipinos were never m l ik
drinkers, for, in a large majority of cases, fresh milk produces
either diarrhea or tympanism.
As examples of these low wages, the common laborer earns an
average of $1.50 a day; physicians in the health service in charge
of a county receive not more than $75.00 a month; clerks and
teachers about $65.00 a month. Is it any wonder then that the
children are so undernourished that they are easy prey to tuber-
culosis and other contagious diseases?
I t must be stated here, in passing, that World War II's aftermath
w i l l be felt in the Islands for the next decade. While vital statistlcs
for the whole Philippines is incomplete, tuberculosis incidence in
the city of Manila, according to the Philippine health bureau, has
risen from the pre-war figure of 9.07 per cent to 21.84 per cent,
or an increase of 251 per cent. Last year there were 2.144 deaths
due to tuberculosis in Manila, or a city incidence of 280 deaths per
100,000. At the war's end in 1945, 11,258 cases were found by the
health bureau in the same city out of 51,550 fluoroscopic and x-ray
examinations, or an incidence of 21.84 per cent.
From
The Tuberculosis Problem in the Philippines
MIGUEL CANIZARES
Chest 1948;14;759-765
DOI 10.1378/chest.14.5.759
The online version of this article, along with updated information and
services can be found online on the World Wide Web at:
http://www.chestjournal.org/content/14/5/759.citation
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GS, I hope your son is getting better.
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Thanks for the thoughts.
The primary complex / tuberculosis diagnosis is just that.
It's not like the boy is debilitated. He's just thin and not growing as fast as he should be.
He still runs around, does his x-stick and watches star wars clone wars, goes to school like any happy little boy.
He doesn't want to eat raw beef in school because he is ashamed to be seen eating raw beef in school. Cooked food peer pressure.
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What about jerky, pemmican and meats cooked rare for school and save the unprocessed raw meats for home?
BTW, if any of the other kids try his pemmican at school, they should love it. Ray Audette said his son's classmates all loved pemmican and both of my nephews that tried it loved it too, especially the younger one who hadn't eaten modern foods as long before going Paleo.
As Lex has said, while pemmican is not as good as purely raw fat and meat, it's still a good food that's far superior to what his classmates eat. It is also easier to get more calories from pemmican than it is from plain raw meat and fat, which may help him put on weight.
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GS, sorry that you're going through this I hope it sorts out soon. I just wanted to say that I don't think there's any 'shame' in doing mainstream medical treatment for something like this.
IMO a paleo man would not be at all immune to all the hardcore strains of diseases in the modern world however healthy they were.
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My son is progressing.
His daily diet has gotten better.
No more rice.
Paleo diet.
Some cooked meat still, but daily lunch of raw bloody beef with me.
I trick him into watching Star Wars Clone Wars and while he's watching I keep feeding him raw beef, lots of it.
I'm now working on lessening his fruits and upping the fatty meats.
We have gone through 3 beam ray treatments. This should take care of the TB germs.
http://www.myhealthblog.org/2009/08/23/3rd-beam-ray-session-for-tuberculosis-2-machines-pictures-video/
(http://www.myhealthblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/cush-beam-ray-3rd-session-gang.jpg)
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Planning a beach trip beginning tomorrow Friday up to Monday.
Fresh air, fresh fish, lots of sunlight and exercise.
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you're in my thoughts and prayers and i'll be keeping up on the progresses you post!
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Gave up the raw cow's milk after the 2nd beam ray treatment.
The diagnostics of the beam ray operator says that we had bovine tuberculin germs... probably from the raw milk.
So I stopped giving raw cow's milk.
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hey good samaritan you might want to have a look into using bentonite clay. www.eytonsearth.org
it is claimed to rapidly detox mercury
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ok so its a simple detox that seems to be happening. Vaccines cause the disease they are suppose to cure...LITERALLY aids in africa were created in a laboratory and sold to Africans who had not been less 'civilized' by european standards( standards that caused the black plaque and many other diseases).
No need to be scared...well yes there is a need to be scared very scared. If you were'nt scared you would'nt have the courage to know all this about health. Fear is what feeds courage, cowards are people with little or no fear. Ok now that we are done with philosophy...
Viruses are produced by the body to clean it they are nonliving.
Bacteria are living they detox.
Don't kill the germs.
Look here for the explanation it explains I will have to look at it again but I like swine flu viruses are injected with pig cells since pig cells create swine flu There are also plently of toxins in the vaccines.
Your sons body could be detoxing the toxins and have the virus in him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbFxV_C8Yw4
there are loads of toxins in there
Don't kill the germs the only 'bad' viruses are those injected in you. If you have a virus it means the body created it.
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This is a run down of my eldest boy’s food intake for the day. This boy has been through the beam ray treatments so any tuberculosis germs should be obliterated. He’s not coughing and he has no mucus no cold. We got rid of all colds and coughs in the house when I clamped down on the diet to an almost paleo diet.
Today they left early for school and the boys were able to play for 20 minutes in the playground and exposed to sunlight.
Breakfast was rambutan fruit plus 1 fertilized raw duck egg yolk.
In school my boy had for lunch lightly seared in ghee (3 seconds per side) – tanguige fish filet from a 5 kilo whole fish I bought yesterday.
Strange he said he ate no merienda. We ran out of rambutan. The kids did drink some freshly squeezed maasim (sour?) dalandan juice plus water when I got home around 5:30pm.
Dinner was a feast of oysters in several disinfecting dips: freshly squeezed lemon + some sea salt, sukang tuba (coconut vinegar), sukang iloko (sugar cane vinegar from ilokos)
I supplemented his dinner with freshly killed raw beef bone marrow and freshly killed raw beef sirloin.
He ate mostly oysters. He loves oysters. I remember gorging on a lot of oysters a few months ago until I hit my limit. Seems my boy hasn’t hit his limit yet. Maybe my boy is zinc deficient. Zinc deficiency makes children fail to thrive. Maybe this is why he likes oysters so much. Now he wants me to buy live oysters in the shell instead of shelled oysters in a bag.
Last night he had halaan (clams) plus white rice with raw duck egg yolks on the rice. Trying the high everything diet on him once a week.
I have been supervising his major meals every single day to the point of spoonfeeding him and me doing the marketing and food preparation / food preparation supervision.
Maybe every single day of nutritious meals will make him bounce up in weight. Right now he is still slim, but I noticed he is very active and very strong and very playful.
(http://www.myhealthblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/cush-dinner-20090901-oysters-rawbeef-rawbonemarrow.jpg)
From my blog http://www.myhealthblog.org/2009/09/01/tuberculosis-fighting-diet-of-my-8-year-old-boy-this-1st-day-of-september/
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Does your son each much raw meat/fat/organs or mostly seafood and fruit?
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Does your son each much raw meat/fat/organs or mostly seafood and fruit?
I make it a point he gets raw beef / seared beef lunch every day at lunch
I try to give him oysters or clams every other day.
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i hope your son becomes better soon i wish you and your family the best
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Must be even harder now, given the weather catastrophe. Sending good vibes your way.
http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/rwb.nsf/db900SID/AZHU-7WL39R?OpenDocument (http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/rwb.nsf/db900SID/AZHU-7WL39R?OpenDocument)
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How is your son? I hope he is all better.
I'm remembering that I read a long time ago that Gerson gave Albert Schweitzer's wife raw calf liver, as her only animal product to successfully cure her tuberculosis.
3) adding oxidizing enzymes continuously as long as they are not reactivated and built in the body (in the form of green leaf juice and fresh calf's liver juice). This will create a near normal condition of the oxidizing system in the body, to which malignant cells with the fermentation system cannot adapt."
At this time, Dr. Gerson attracted the friendship of Nobel prize winner Albert Schweitzer, M.D., by curing Schweitzer’s wife of lung tuberculosis after all conventional treatments had failed.
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My son survived the flash floods 2 weeks ago.
But the destruction of our home and sudden move and changes has kept my boy and the whole family off rhythm.
Trying to establish new rhythm.
But I cannot attend to him 100% as I also needed to shift my office from physical office to virtual office.
Because I cannot attend to him he gets to eat rice again as the default food of the rest of the family are rice eaters.
But during days I'm there at minimum he is on cooked meat paleo diet.
I believe the durian + meat only days did well to stabilize his digestive system.
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8 year old Boy’s Primary Complex / TB cure progress – Solid Stools
Our 8 year old boy is progressing nicely. I’m satisfied, my wife is satisfied. From my wife’s point of view, he now seems to be gaining weight. From my point of view, there are several symptoms that have been resolved and all are linked to his digestive and food absorptive capacities.
Full story and picture at
http://www.myhealthblog.org/2009/11/22/8-year-old-boys-primary-complex-tb-cure-progress-solid-stools/
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That's good news. He does look healthier.
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My grandma saw my son last week.
She is the toughest one to satisfy.
She says my son seems to be gaining weight... with a smile!
This means my son is almost there....
His rough spot on his right arm is almost gone.... just a little more.
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We are doing a 3 day orange juice fast beginning today, the 26th of December.
He asked for it.
I thought he wanted only 1 day, but he specifically asked for 3 days.
Hmmm... let's see.
Here is a recent video just before christmas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGv7XqHsT5A
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Did he say why he wanted it?
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Did he say why he wanted it?
Yes, I kept asking him and he said he wanted it.
But last night after seeing everybody eat dinner he said, he wanted his fast shortened to 2 days.
Then after running around and expending a lot of energy with his cousins he then said he would like to shorten his fast to just 1 day.
I'm waiting for him to wake up now to break his fast, it's 6:30am here.
Ah kids.
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My son has never wanted an orange juice fast, or any fast. He's always craved more substantial foodstuffs, not necessarily ever large amounts, but "proteiny", fatty or starchy foods.