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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => Off Topic => Topic started by: goodsamaritan on January 20, 2015, 11:34:37 am
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2015 is going to be an exciting year. It is just 2 weeks into it and tons of things had happened.
Let's watch this thread, fasten our seat belts, prepare... and watch the fireworks.
The 2015 January 19 summary so far c/o of Jim Willie
http://www.silverdoctors.com/jim-willie-swiss-dump-the-euro-go-long-gold/ (http://www.silverdoctors.com/jim-willie-swiss-dump-the-euro-go-long-gold/)
Jim Willie: Swiss De-peg Triggers Massive Derivative Crisis, Potential END OF THE EURO!
Posted on January 19, 2015 by The Doc
In the wake of the Swiss National Bank shocking the market this week de-pegging the CHF from the Euro, the Golden Jackass Jim Willie joined us over the weekend for an Exclusive Interview discussing:
Willie explains why the Swiss are dumping the Euro in favor of GOLD, and that multi-hundred billion trading losses will result in MASSIVE DERIVATIVE LOSSES & CONTAGION!
Swiss actions have brought a HUGE ACCELERATION of end game events-We’re looking at the potential END of the EURO!
Swiss have front run the Global Currency Reset & GOLD REVALUATION!
$2 TRILLION IN SUB-PRIME OIL BONDS ARE ABOUT TO EXPLODE! Contagion will be bigger than sub-prime housing crash!
Dollar Death-Spike: Fed has LOST CONTROL of the dollar!
Coming European bank failures will result in a STAMPEDE INTO GOLD!
2015 Will be a repeat of Lehman- Several Western banks will go down, This is GAME OVER!
When Putin flips his switch, the DOLLAR IS DEAD, and Gold Will DOUBLE!
GREXIT will blow up the EU!
The Doc began by asking the Golden Jackass his thoughts on the Swiss Franc de-pegging from the Euro:
- tipped off on Draghi EuroCB decision to proceed with QE bond monetization
-Currency interventions are coming to a CLIMAX!
- could be as simple as Swiss bank noticing the physical gold flows
- Swiss act as gold coordinator (see Bank For Intl Settlemt) and guide for refiners
- could anticipate German departure from common Euro currency
- could anticipate Greek Exit and huge shock waves
- numerous factors could lead to widespread European bank failures
Willie made a STUNNING prognosis for 2015- Death of the dollar and GOLD REVALUATION:
- energy trade gradually excluding USD
- key upcoming element is Saudi/OPEC acceptance of non-USD
- US losing control of USD and oil price (Petro-Dollar demise in full view)
- US oil industry at great risk ($2 trillion in shale bond all subprime)
- convergence of Brent & WTexas oil price signal in 2013
- US blocks all reset Currency & Gold market reform
- therefore East will force Gold Standard through trade channels
- Eastern capital development and asset acquisition will be done on USTBond tab
- East led by BRICS are to shun avoid reject the USD
- QE has accelerated all movements to remove the USD from trade and banking
The Doc then asked Will for his take on the upcoming Greek elections- will we see a GREXIT?
- potential for European bank runs, bail-ins
- ELA is Emergency Liquidity Assistance
- four big Greek banks ask aid
- Syriza Party seeks to abandon austerity and probably the common Euro currency
- debt default likely following EUR 240bn bailout
- EU 195bn debt owed to EU nations = 4% of EU govt budgets
Germany 56.5bn, France 42.4bn, Italy 37.3bn, Spain 24.8bn, Dutch 11.9bn
- GREXIT will blow up EU on fiscal side
- Swiss Natl Bank on currency side
- USGovt sanctions on economic side
- Germany on monetary side
- Ukraine on energy side
Jim Willie: Swiss De-peg Triggers Massive Derivative Crisis, Potential END OF THE EURO! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHanymw3mW8#)
If you think Jim is a wild man, well monetary historian Andrew Gause has much respect for him. Jim Willie is invited to the oneradionetwork.com show on January 26 with host Patrick Timpone. That is respect.
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Er "when Putin flips his switch", what exactly does that mean? Surely not "pressing a little red button"? I cannot see how he could otherwise harm the US and destroy the dollar. Now, Putin could just cut off all gas and oil to Europe in retaliation for sanctions at just the point where the Euro and European economy are at their weakest, but I think(?) that's all.
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Bundesbank successfully continues transfers of gold
The Bundesbank successfully continued and further stepped up its transfers of gold last year. In 2014, 120 tonnes of gold were transferred to Frankfurt am Main from storage locations abroad: 35 tonnes from Paris and 85 tonnes from New York. "Implementation of our new gold storage plan is proceeding smoothly. Operations are running very much according to schedule," said Carl-Ludwig Thiele, Member of the Executive Board of the Deutsche Bundesbank.
The Bundesbank took advantage of the transfer from New York to have roughly 50 tonnes of gold melted down and recast according to the London Good Delivery standard, today's internationally recognised standard. "We also called on the expertise of the Bank for International Settlements for the spot checks that had to be carried out. As expected, there were no irregularities," said Mr Thiele.
According to its new gold storage plan, unveiled in January 2013, the Bundesbank will be storing half of Germany’s gold reserves in its own vaults from 2020 onwards. This necessitates a phased transfer to Frankfurt am Main of 300 tonnes of gold from New York and all 374 tonnes of gold from Paris.
Read more (see table)
http://www.bundesbank.de/Redaktion/EN/Pressemitteilungen/BBK/2015/2015_01_19_continues_transfers_of_gold.html?startpageId=Startseite-EN&startpageAreaId=Teaserbereich&startpageLinkName=2015_01_19_continues_transfers_of_gold+327534 (http://www.bundesbank.de/Redaktion/EN/Pressemitteilungen/BBK/2015/2015_01_19_continues_transfers_of_gold.html?startpageId=Startseite-EN&startpageAreaId=Teaserbereich&startpageLinkName=2015_01_19_continues_transfers_of_gold+327534)
Since the transfers began in 2013, the Bank has relocated a total of 157 tonnes of gold to Frankfurt am Main - 67 tonnes from Paris and 90 tonnes from New York. This is equivalent to roughly 23% of the total quantity to be transferred. The following table gives an overview of the gold that has been transferred to date.
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A more animated report about the same thing:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-19/bundesbank-resumes-gold-repatriation-transfers-120-tonnes-physical-gold-paris-and-ny (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-19/bundesbank-resumes-gold-repatriation-transfers-120-tonnes-physical-gold-paris-and-ny)
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Rob Kirby – A Monumental Financial Breakdown: It’s Not A Question of ‘If’, But ‘When’ – January 19, 2015
Podcast Now Available
THE MORNING SHOW
with
Patrick Timpone
Rob Kirby
Founder of The Kirby Analytics Newsletter
A Monumental Financial Breakdown: It’s Not A Question of ‘If’, But ‘When’
Show Highlights:
-Getting your arms around the analytics when the game is rigged
-Is there something more unusual going on in 2015? Rob says it’s monumental
-Nothing has been fixed since 2008; you cannot fix a problem with indebtedness with more debt
-Will we see $5000 gold one day and $200 silver?
-Financial Breakdown: It’s not a question of ‘if’, but ‘when’
-What is this $45 oil/barrel about?
-Why is Rob Kirby so bullish on gold? Rob gives advice on how to buy coins and bullion
-The hijacking of America: Who is really running the show?
-A global currency reset is eminent and coming soon (60 days?)
and so much more!
Go to podcast and listen
http://oneradionetwork.com/geo-politics/rob-kirby-monumental-financial-breakdown-not-question-january-19-2015/ (http://oneradionetwork.com/geo-politics/rob-kirby-monumental-financial-breakdown-not-question-january-19-2015/)
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Chinese moves....
China, Switzerland sign deal on yuan trading in Zurich (bypassing the US Dollar and the Euro)
Published time: January 21, 2015 14:16
Edited time: January 22, 2015 08:11
http://rt.com/business/224759-china-switzerland-offshore-deal/ (http://rt.com/business/224759-china-switzerland-offshore-deal/)
Frankfurt begins first European direct settlements in Chinese yuan
Published time: November 18, 2014 10:57
http://rt.com/business/206447-frankfurt-first-yuan-clearing/ (http://rt.com/business/206447-frankfurt-first-yuan-clearing/)
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Andrew Gause and The Real World of Money – Now, More Than Ever, Is the Time to Buckle Down – January 22, 2015
Andrew Gause may just be the top man anywhere for the highest quality analysis into the world of money we all live in. Andrew is a currency historian, an internationally recognized expert on the United States monetary system. He’s written two books, “The Secret World of Money” and “Uncle Sam Cooks the Books”. You can order these books as well as speak to Andrew personally. As a One Radio Network listener, you’ll have highest priority in his phone time. His # is 800.468.2646
Show Highlights:
-Money management starts with writing every expense down
-Draghi’s idea: QE to the tune of 70 billion dollars per month through Sept. 2016
-How do you short the dollar? Invest in silver and gold
-The rocking of the World by the Swiss National Bank last week
-Andrew explains the importance of a diversified portfolio
-Were you impressed with the State of the Union Address? Andrew wasn’t, and calls it fabrication. And what about the government getting involved with community colleges.
-What’s up with all the NASA deaths? Wasn’t there a day, long ago, when we trusted the alphabet agencies?
-Rate hikes are coming later this year? Right
-A ten year bond vs. gold; which one would you choose?
-Is there is any intrinsic difference in our one dollar federal reserve note and the one dollar coin that is in circulation today?
-What will Mr. Gause do if deflation occurs? Numismatics will fall with the influx of people selling collections. If there is no buyer, the premium he charges will evaporate overnight.
-Andy says that the Euro will rise with their QE. Why then has the yen dropped when Japan did their QE?
-When does Andy expect a decline in dollar strength?
-When a collapse in the bond market occurs, how does Andrew see events playing out?
-What would Andrew do with a billion dollars? Buy 5 billion worth of assets
-We love hearing from Scott, the trader; click here to read his comments on the gold rally, oil, and the Swiss franc
-A listener visited a new coin shop when traveling recently and inquired about his price for the Modern Commemorative silver dollars. He had some but asked him why he wanted them. He said that no one is interested in these and that the premium, about 25%, was a waste of money. Does Andy still think these are these great things to buy for long term investment? Also, does he think the more expensive ones are worth the extra money, some are $35-75 and others, like Statue of Liberty, are about $20.
-Good question: Andy,On Jan 14 at the bottom of the first hour, you gave a good tip on how to use treasury bonds/-t-notes /t-bills to offset a monthly payment of a mortgage.
The premise is to loan money to the government at a fixed interest rate and keep on rolling that loan into another loan until the interest rate is higher than that of your mortgage.
Question: Being that the US government is flat out broke and it keeps on borrowing to pay its bills. You mentioned that even then the possibility of a default is no within the real of possibility.
So even if the inflate the money supply to pay you back your loan in say 30 years (or whatever maturity you choose to loan out) wouldn’t those dollars you get back be less “worthy” than those you loan out at the beginning of the deal.
Yes can get your money back at the end of the term, but the quality of those dollars are diminished, even though you were able to offset the cost of your mortgage all along.
Can you comment on that erosion of your money as you loan the money to the government? It seems to me that on one hand you win, but on the other hand you still lose!
and so much more! Patrick and Andrew covered almost every email sent in, they not all posted here, so listen to the show for your answer.
Listen here http://oneradionetwork.com/the-real-world-of-money/andrew-gause-real-world-money-now-ever-time-buckle-january-22-2015/ (http://oneradionetwork.com/the-real-world-of-money/andrew-gause-real-world-money-now-ever-time-buckle-january-22-2015/)
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I listened to Andrew Gause above and his take on the Announced QE of the European Central Bank is... it is just business as usual. US prints money, orders its Japanese vassal state to print money, its European banking brothers prints money.
The euro will temporarily weaken and then strengthen.
How pissed will the Germans be? We will have to wait and see. But Andrew Gause is of the opinion tha Germany is also a vassal state after WW2... the bankers and politicians for sure... not the industrialists.
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Patrick Timpone - Host
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Jim Willie – The End of the American Empire: Big, Powerful, Nasty & Ugly Days Ahead – January 26, 2015
Jim Willie comes from US industry with three main fields of statistics covered. He earned a PhD in Statistics at Carnegie Mellon Univ in 1980. The three fields are Quality Control in manufacturing, Marketing Research in computer technology, and Sales Forecasting in retail. Since 2004, the “Golden Jackass” has been running the Hat Trick Letter, a newsletter that focuses on gold, currencies, central banks, and the economies. His numerous correct forecasts on important developments toward the global breakdown have gained considerable attention, if not notoriety. The current major forecasts include the rejection of the USDollar as global reserve, the installation of the Eurasian Trade Zone, the flipping east by Germany, Turkey, Saudi, and Japan, and the return of the Gold Standard. The return will come through the trade window, not the currency window. The acceleration of systemic breakdown events has come in earnest during January here, exactly as forecast.
Show Highlights:
-Willie says there is a strong contingent of powerful “Good Guys” ex military who are tired of
the status quo; and there are extremely wealthy Chinese Elders who are sick and tired of “The Boys” andtheir destruction of the Planet.
-There are three major factions who run the world….for now; who are they?
-Germany is actively looking for credible ways to exit the Euro Zone, political and currency
-The dollar is losing market share, as we speak, with the emergence with BRICS
-The amount of gold Russia and China has will curl your hair
-The U.S. is out of gold
-Putin kicked the Rothchild’s out of Russia a few years ago
-The Vatican is loaded with assets on all levels and it goes back over a thousand years
-Willie explains how oil got to $45 a barrel today
-It’s all about derivatives and not supply and demand for all major assets
-Just how did the Swiss pull off keeping the Euro peg for the last three years
-The dollar may have strong numbers today but is weak at heart
-Willie’s take on ISIS, their origin and what they are up to
-The Global Currency Reset is real and in motion
-There will be a new, improved dollar someday that will be as worthless as the current one
and so much more!
Listen here... 2 hours: http://oneradionetwork.com/moneyfinance/jim-willie-end-american-empire-big-powerful-nasty-ugly-days-ahead-january-26-2015/ (http://oneradionetwork.com/moneyfinance/jim-willie-end-american-empire-big-powerful-nasty-ugly-days-ahead-january-26-2015/)
My comment: There will be WAR before the monetary system falls... to stop it from falling... there usually is.
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Financial War and Shooting War Intensifying-No Real Recovery, Obama Veto
By Greg Hunter On January 30, 2015 In Weekly News Wrap-Ups
World Marching Toward War, Iran and Israel Close to War, North American Union Real (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX0XhPZtfnI#ws)
War is what I am going to concentrate on in this Weekly News Wrap-Up. There is no doubt a massive financial war is going on right now. If this keeps up, it will only lead to a shooting war and a very big one at that. The EU wants to put another round of sanctions on Russia, and get this, Greece is signaling it will veto that action. So, not only does the recently elected Greece leadership want debt forgiveness, it also looks like it is going to side with Russia over more sanctions. Greece is a NATO country, and it’s making noises that may close NATO military bases and withdraw from the alliance. All this is destabilizing the EU economy and the geopolitical situation there. There is no doubt that part of the world is inching towards more war over Ukraine. The cherry on top of the cake came from rarely heard former leader of Russia, Mikhail Gorbachev, who said, “Have they lost their minds?” Talking about actions taken recently by the U.S., Gorbachev goes on to say, “The ‘cold’ war will “lead to a ‘hot’ war.” I am not advocating war, I am just telling you it looks like one is coming.
Want more war possibilities? Look no further than the Middle East. The hottest of hot spots is looking more and more like Israel. Ever since Israel bombed Hezbollah positions in Syria near the Golan Heights, the shooting has been picking up on both sides. This is all part of the reason why the Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, is going to talk to Congress about Iran, its nuclear program and more sanctions. The President is furious over this, and I think it’s because there may be enough votes on both sides of the isle to override a veto. Congress will no doubt pass legislation to strengthen sanctions against Iran if talks fail to curtail Iran’s nuclear program. Meanwhile, Iran has vowed to attack Israel because of the airstrike that killed an Iranian General and a son of a Hezbollah leader in Syria. It is reported Iran has said it will attack Israel from the West Bank. Iran also reportedly told the U.S. State Department it was going to attack Israel. This is a new wrinkle. Iran did not say it was going to have Hezbollah or Hamas attack Israel. It stated Iran was going to attack Israel. This is a whole new level of rhetoric, and it is definitely a dangerous escalation of war talk. If Iran did directly attack Israel, what would a counterattack be for Israel? Can you see how this could spiral out of control? This is “war and rumors of war” talk, and I don’t think anyone is bluffing.
President Obama has made a record high amount of veto threats to the new Republican Congress. There are nine Obama veto threats in all. I told you that he will likely veto any additional sanctions in Iran, but his first veto is probably be going to be the Keystone XL Pipeline legislation that just passed in the Senate. Now, the House and the Senate have to get the language sorted out, and then it will be sent to the President’s desk. Former Democratic Majority Leader Harry Reid used to stop all bills in the Senate. Now, the Republicans hold the Senate, and a flurry of bills will be passing through to President Obama’s desk. Will he now become the President of “No” like the Republicans were branded? Nine Democrats voted for the Keystone bill with the Republicans in the Senate. This is the trend I told you was coming. We will see if Congress can override a veto if one comes.
The Federal Reserve said it will remain “patient” on raising interest rates. We keep hearing about the good economy, and signs abound that the economy is not good, at least for Main Street. I just want to make my point with recent bad news on housing. According to the Commerce Department, home ownership just hit fresh 20 year lows in the last quarter of 2014. How can there be a so-called “economic recovery” when homeownership is hitting fresh lows?
Finally, CNN is pushing for a North American Union in an opinion piece posted on CNN.com. Remember when people said this was crazy conspiracy theory talk a few years ago? I guess it’s not so crazy. The writers say we don’t need a Constitution, and to me, that means we don’t need any rights such as in the Constitutional Amendments. Simply outrageous, and CNN should be ashamed to be used as a New World Order propaganda tool.
Join Greg Hunter as he analyzes these stories and more in the Weekly News Wrap-Up.
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Gregory Mannarino: WAR is coming... Russia vs USA (nuclear war)... please pass his videos to your friends to hopefully find a way to STOP this war from coming true.
It's A Set Up: World War To Blame For The Coming Economic Collapse. By Gregory Mannarino (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPKWS-d5lxw#ws)
CRISIS ALERT: US Moves Closer To War With Russia. Fed. Will Speak Tomorrow. By Gregory Mannarino (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXcqumAe3Hs#ws)
Friends:
Please prepare, food, water, cash in small bills, batteries, flash lights, escape to the provinces plans, alternative incomes, and everything else you can think of in case nuclear war breaks out between USA and Russia.
The Collapse Of The World Financial System Is Already Here. And Global WAR Is Next.
Jan 29, 2015 6:50 PM
Today a very good friend asked me when we can expect to see the global financial system collapse?
My answer: it's happening right now.
The first place to look and see this is the central banks themselves. They have now become so desperate to sustain the collapsing financial system, that zero and even negative interest rates are now the norm.
Further, a full on currency war is underway. The world central banks are broadcasting to the world that they are devaluing their currency to compete in the global markets. Moreover, the European Central Bank has now instituted full on Japan style/Federal Reserve style quantitative easing.
Even more disturbing is the action of the US central bank, the Federal Reserve.
The Federal Reserve is the most desperate central bank of them all.
The Federal Reserve since announcing their "official" ending to QE, has resorted to a backdoor quantitative easing program. The Fed. Is now requiring the banks themselves to buy debt! Exposing each and every depositor (you), to this toxic asset which can never be repaid.
The Federal Reserve is also going a step further by continuing to print cash out of thin air at a blinding pace. (See this in real time by clicking HERE and scrolling down to money creation).
War is the plan.
The world central banks realize that the end game is near with regard to their ability to continue to prop up the corpse known as the "debt based economic model."
Every developed nation on Earth, under the rule of their respective central bank, has a debt based system.
Here in the United States our debt based system began under President Nixon who forced us off of the established "wealth based gold standard system."
And why were we here in the United States taken off of the gold standard? To fund the Vietnam War and fight communism-THE BIGGEST LIE EVER SOLD.
We were taken off of a gold standard to establish
1. A fiat (debt based) system and 2. Establish the petrodollar.
Establishing a debt based economic model allowed central banks to dominate the world by making their product (cash printed out of thin air) real money. This is known as a fiat monetary system.
The petrodollar, (an agreement between OPEC nations and the United States) created an ever expanding market for the now "in control" central banks product.
The petrodollar agreement requires any nation wishing to purchase oil from an OPEC nation to first convert their currency into US dollars. This conversion is the reason why the US dollar, a product of the Federal Reserve (a private entity and NOT a part of the US government), is the world reserve currency. And what do the OPEC nations get in return? US military protection of their oil.
The now beginning collapse of the debt based economic model is going to bring human suffering on a Biblical scale, and WAR.
Understanding that by the world central banks using "debt creation" as an economic engine, a financial monster has been created.
In order for this debt based monster to continue functioning, it demands debt to be continually borrowed into existence in greater and greater amounts. Hence here in the US we now have a greater than 18 trillion dollar debt-And it can never stop.
The issue of debt is NOT just a financial problem, it is a resource issue. (Please click HERE to understand why).
This resource issue is the main reason why a loss of human life on a Biblical scale is a mathematical certainty.
WAR.
At this point in time World War III has already started.
The United States and the European Union are already deeply engaged in a full on economic war against Russia, and a full on shooting war is not only not far off-but it is their objective.
A blame game is being set up.
This new global war, being set up on purpose, is going to be blamed for the full on collapse of the world financial system based upon debt. Russia is going to blame the US, and the US is going to blame Russia, but the end result will be the same.
Human suffering on an unimaginable scale.
http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/29482055-gregory-mannarino/3692676-the-collapse-of-the-world-financial-system-is-already-here-and-global-war-is-next (http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/29482055-gregory-mannarino/3692676-the-collapse-of-the-world-financial-system-is-already-here-and-global-war-is-next)
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It's Time We Had "The Talk": Will You Survive Nuclear War?
http://eventhorizonchronicle.blogspot.jp/2015/01/its-time-we-had-talk-will-you-survive.html (http://eventhorizonchronicle.blogspot.jp/2015/01/its-time-we-had-talk-will-you-survive.html)
I want my friends to be AWARE that the danger of nuclear warfare in 2015 is REAL. Look mainstream media... MSM. Pls prepare.
UK summons Russian envoy after bombers fly over English Channel
By Lucy Pawle, Vasco Cotovio and Jason Hanna, CNN
Updated 0015 GMT (0815 HKT) January 31, 2015
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/01/29/world/uk-russia-bombers-intercepted/index.html (http://edition.cnn.com/2015/01/29/world/uk-russia-bombers-intercepted/index.html)
Marin Katusa has a book "The Colder War". His information seems to agree with Jim Willie. Please educate yourselves what this current hysteria about USA vs Russia is all about. View now.
Cold War 2 Or World War 3? Economic Warfare Between The United States And Russia Has Begun (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J_wYKrXPks#ws)
Gorbachev: Ukraine could explode into 'hot war' between Russia and the West
Mikhail Gorbachev, the former Soviet leader, said the West was 'dragging' Russia into confrontation.
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Security-Watch/terrorism-security/2015/0129/Gorbachev-Ukraine-could-explode-into-hot-war-between-Russia-and-the-West (http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Security-Watch/terrorism-security/2015/0129/Gorbachev-Ukraine-could-explode-into-hot-war-between-Russia-and-the-West)
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I have spoken to my wife and in-laws who we live with in the compound and a plan is coming to mind, this is generally how it goes:
- The Philippines is not a primary target of the Russians or the Chinese in the event of a nuclear war.
- But the old US bases of Clark and Subic may still be programmed in old Soviet Era nuclear missiles so that might still be targetted by ICBMs.
- We are stocking up on food and water and other supplies like CASH in small bills in case we are stuck in the big city (Metro Manila) where we live. (ATMs will surely be closed.)
- I think the big city is a place of zombie starvation when commerce and transport and communications are disrupted.
- We have initial plans to move out to provincial fishing towns where we have friendly welcomes... these fishing towns have extra food... always... and we can live there with the cash we have.
- Thinking of Ilocos Norte (if the highway north is not obliterated if Subic and Clark are not targetted)
- Thinking of Quezon to the east if the north is impassable.
- I will have to visit both locations first and locate housing possibilities on both places... then make arrangements.
Please post your tips and plans too.
I fully intend to try to survive WW3 because I have an obligation to several children to do so.
I have discussed this with my 77 year old father in law and he fully understands the situation and experienced WW2 when he was a child... was in USA in Yale University during the Cuban Missile Crisis in the 1960s.
This 2015 my friends is something as bad if not WORSE than the Cuban Missile Crisis.
And unlike Pearl Harbor when the US president then feigned ignorance that the attack was un-provoked... In 2013,2014,2015 we are fully informed today WHY nuclear war is a real possibility.
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If only it would happen..... ;) . Hmm, if I had the money and the right location, I would have long ago become a survivalist with my own nuclear bunker and dried foodstuffs lasting for several years. Just think, a nuked-out world with no functional government any more, so no more taxes, no restrictions on freedom of speech(outside the US), practice of the theme of "survival of the fittest", no more stupid, overly draconian health-and-safety regulations forbidding the ownership of guns let alone ownership of more lethal weaponry("the right to own weapons is the right to be free!"), I could also do many minor things, unimaginable previously given the authoritarianism of the law, such as letting off really powerful fireworks without needing some stupid Austrian licence, wildlife would return in large numbers to previously-nuked areas(a la Czernobyl), and so on. The benefits would be enormous!
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The US and EU governments are likely too stupid to avoid a genuine WW3. One can only hope that Putin has some other ace up his sleeve -hmm, perhaps he is waiting for the euro to collapse which may well happen soon.
I am amused that GS thinks he is untouchable in the Phillipines. I rather strongly suspect that China has many missiles aimed at the Phillipines. China already has designs on the Phillipines
http://globalnation.inquirer.net/107665/chinas-military-base-on-mabini-reef-violates-ph-constitution/ (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/107665/chinas-military-base-on-mabini-reef-violates-ph-constitution/)
but simply does not have the capacity for a seaborne invasion of the islands, so a nuclear strike would make sense.
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The Chinese will not nuke the Philippines on purpose. They have millions of men more than chinese women. They will want Filipino women to be imported as "brides" to make up for their deficit.
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The Chinese will not nuke the Philippines on purpose. They have millions of men more than chinese women. They will want Filipino women to be imported as "brides" to make up for their deficit.
That is overly optimistic. Besides, if they want ww3, that excess of men will be desperately needed for their armies so as to sustain any potential casualties.
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I personally read John Titor the alleged time traveler in 2001 forum posts.
I did not bother to take so much notice of his posts, but wondered what all the hype was about.
In 2001 I reflexively dismissed the idea of NUCLEAR WAR between Russia and the USA in the future 2015... I thought... "Aren't the Russians our friends now?" See the movie of The Terminator 2 (Arnold Schwarzenegger).
The idiotic thing was I watched from 2013 to 2015 how the USA attacked to no end the sleeping Russians goading it to get it to go to WAR. I even saw the video of Webster Tarpley predicting that if and when Obama gets elected in 2008, US foreign policy will redirect its sights from targeting Iran to targetting Russia... Tarpley was absolutely correct.
So now we are here Feb 2015 and closer to possible Nuclear War than ever before. (Maybe that Titor thing had some reality in it).
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Strategicbrains.com has an entire webpage dedicated to Titor. Yet, one area of this page particularly stands out. A tab labeled "National Security".
This tab contains information supposedly sent in by an employee of the US government. Part of the text states
"The moment people give up and want to prepare for the Titor US civil war prediction, they have, by definition, joined the ranks of domestic terrorists. People do not have to join radical anti-government militia or violent environmentalists such as the ELF (Environmental Liberation Front), or end of world religious cults for this label to be applied to them. All they have to do is start preparing for some prospective civil war in the US, and they have become, by definition, the enemy of the United States, as much as International terrorists already are."
It closes by saying
"Due to the Titor prediction that the rural side wins the civil conflict against the so-called American Federal Empire (AFE) due to help from a Russian nuclear strike on major cities in the US, some believers automatically assume in order to survive, they should leave the cities and learn to survive independent of social infrastructures, and that they should even take up arms to defend themselves against the AFE. In essence, they join the anti-government groups or parties or so called developing ‘forces’ in a material conspiracy to eventually overthrow the US Government. They become, by definition domestic terrorists, and sympathizers with the goals of international terrorism as conducted by Al Qaida, whether they like it or not."
http://johntitor.strategicbrains.com/NationalSecurity.cfm (http://johntitor.strategicbrains.com/NationalSecurity.cfm)
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Original archived posts of John Titor
http://www.anomalies.net/original-john-titor-posts-post2post-art-bell-forum-part-1/ (http://www.anomalies.net/original-john-titor-posts-post2post-art-bell-forum-part-1/)
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"official website?"
http://johntitor.com/ (http://johntitor.com/)
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Guy who made a 4 part reading of John Titor stuff in 2013...
And in 2014 making another video saying... "there must be something to that John Titor thing... really."
He puts it all together for your complete understanding
REALIST NEWS - John Titor (Time Traveler) Russia Ukraine & WWIII (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D4iQmYQ4Tw#ws)
This is part 1 / 4 of his 2013 reading of John Titor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Fvr50QNzh0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Fvr50QNzh0)
Note that John Titor said all these things BEFORE 9/11.
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Note that it is false for people to conclude Titor pointed to March 2015 as N-DAY... no he did not... he just said 2015.
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I thought at first John Titor would be just entertainment... did not expect this run up to WW3 with Russia.
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Here is a 2012 blog post saying John Titor was WRONG about Nuclear War with Russia.
A Look At John Titor’s Most Popular Predictions
By Rob Schwarz on February 23, 2012
http://www.strangerdimensions.com/2012/02/23/a-look-at-john-titors-most-popular-predictions/ (http://www.strangerdimensions.com/2012/02/23/a-look-at-john-titors-most-popular-predictions/)
John Titor’s story was painted in the dulcet, midnight colors of Coast to Coast AM, driven by a community’s desire to believe, if just for a moment, that time travel was possible.
Over the years, the mythology became mired, polluted by impostors and opportunists. The story of the story took center stage, outshining what we originally found so compelling.
But how has John Titor himself, as we knew him then, fared?
Let’s find out. Let’s look at his most well known predictions, the ones that make your hair stand on end, or cause you to laugh at their outrageousness. In no particular order.
But remember: We shouldn’t call them “predictions.” They’re statements of “fact” from the point of view of a time traveler.
Reflections of an individual’s past that were never guaranteed to become our future.
1. A Devastating Nuclear War
(http://www.strangerdimensions.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/titornuclearwar1.jpg)
A World War in 2015 killed nearly 3 billion people.
We’ll begin with one of the few Titor predictions we’ve yet to reach, simply by virtue of it still being in the future.
John Titor allegedly began his journey in 2036. He’d grown up in Florida, and experienced both a domestic conflict and a worldwide nuclear war. Their effects were disastrous, and much of Titor’s story involves his contempt for the people of our time period; he viewed us as sheep who did nothing to prevent the horrors that followed.
2015 is three years away, and steadily approaching. Is there a scenario brewing that may lead us down this dark path?
In the context of Titor’s predictions, perhaps not — his other, far-reaching statements, such as those about a coming Civil War in the United States, never happened (“There is a Civil War in the United States that starts in 2005”). But modern tensions today that did not exist in 2000-2001 do give pause.
These tensions involve the growing conflict with Iran about their nuclear weapons program, and threats that Israel may launch their own unilateral attack on the country very soon (Read: Israelis seem resigned to a strike on Iran)
The Middle East, already near the breaking point, has experienced violent protests in Syria and Egypt, and an indefinite occupation of the region by the United States. The situation is already bad, but it’s not difficult to imagine it becoming worse. Far worse.
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I am personally convinced that John Titor was accurate. Today's nuclear war tension with Russia is EXTREME. Whether it explodes to nuclear war or not is no longer material. John Titor got it RIGHT on this 2015 Nuclear War with Russia prediction. Creepy reality? Or just a lucky guess by a hoaxster?
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There are many ways this Titor guy could have gotten his information.
One is certain, many things he said actually are true, many things about society and how it should work and would be, but in those regards he got some things wrong also. And if he was legit, then definitely he would have been "ordered" to bend the truth, to protect himself, but not bend too much so that in general picture it is still true, and also not reveal his true mission. If true then here only on "personal matters"? No...
If he was right, then talking about coming events in the very near future would have forced the "authority" to change their dates, because if what he said was true, then the "game" would already, right now, be over for the "elite" and those morons.
Out of necessity, from the "elite's" perspective, they would have been forced to change their plans, to lengthen their sick existence.
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In this interview there is no talk of Nuclear WAR, no WW3.
This is what is happening WITHOUT nuclear WAR or WW3 in 2015.
The US Dollar is losing its reserve status this 2015. It is already happening. It is going to be replaced by Gold, Silver, Chinese Yuan / RMB.
I feel so much better if there is no nuclear war.
All we guys and gals here need to do is find a way to survive this US Dollar losing the reserve status thing.
My country the Philippines' economy is of course tied to the USA, our Philippine peso is tied to the US Dollar.
Figure out what happens and how to preserve your wealth this 2015 depending on your country of residence.
I have to figure out how to tell my clients that my costings have changed and will change when the exchange rates change drastically. I have servers rented in US and Germany.
What worries me is that the Philippines is the business process outsourcing capital / BPO / backoffice of American Multinational Corporations... does this mean starting 2016... office jobs go back to the USA?
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The Quickening with Jim Willie
Posted on February 2, 2015February 2, 2015 by Perpetual Assets
Will Lehr of Perpetual Assets Interviews Jim Willie, The Golden Jackass, editor of the Hat Trick Letter
My buddy the Golden Jackass is back, diving deep into the abyss of all matters financial and geopolitical. Join us for well over an hour of analyzation of the events of today.
In the first half of the interview we cover the 10 most critical developments of 2015, and it’s only February. Typically any one of these events would be big enough to make annual headlines. These have all occurred in a matter of 3 weeks!
Jim makes a big call regarding Germany’s ‘stance’ in the dollar demise. We cover everything from underwater prisons to new energy technology. The doctor even gives us a lesson on statistical probability as it pertains to global collapse events and government propaganda statistics. From Greek pipelines to the Shemitah cycle of financial crises we cover broad topics with just enough depth to engage your curiosity.
2015 Bombshell events listed in chronological order:
Russia jumped off the Petro-Dollar recycle wagon
The Swiss removed the 120 Euro peg to their Franc currency
The Greeks have prepared to exit the European Union and to default on debt
The Euro Central Bank announced details on their newest QE tampering
King Abdullah died and the transition for the royal family begins
Merkel has offered a trade union proposal to Russia, which discards the US-led TTIP trade pact
The German watchdog financial cop BaFin found no improper manipulation in the gold market
The Swiss have set up a major RMB trading center in Zurich
The details for Gazprom pipeline extension through Turkey have been revealed
The US Economy had an enormous miss in expected Durable Good orders
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May I add at the end of the interview they were talking about the US dollar eventually collapsing... to be replaced by a new dollar... all your deposits in banks are not safe... to be devalued out the starting gate by 30% and devalued more in the next months by up to 80%.
The US Dollar he thinks loses the reserve currency status this 2015. Gold, Silver and Chinese Yuan / RMB will be the new reserve currency.
So prepare.
The Quickening with Jim Willie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbP2NZAFeGQ#ws)
Source: https://www.perpetualassets.com/news/2015/02/02/the-quickening-with-jim-willie/ (https://www.perpetualassets.com/news/2015/02/02/the-quickening-with-jim-willie/)
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Exciting times my friends... hang on to your seats for this ride...
Do you remember when the entire Polish government was assassinated?
http://www.hangthebankers.com/assassination-of-96-members-of-polish-government-caught-on-video/ (http://www.hangthebankers.com/assassination-of-96-members-of-polish-government-caught-on-video/)
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Paul Craig Roberts – The New Greek Government May Be Assassinated
February 04, 2015
Today Dr. Paul Craig Roberts stunned King World News when he said that the new Greek government may be assassinated because the stakes are so high. The former U.S. Treasury official takes KWN readers on a terrifying trip down the rabbit hole of government lies and assassinations, where the stakes are high and governments play for keeps.
Dr. Paul Craig Roberts: “There is much more involved here with Greece than just the interests of the creditor banks, who still want to be paid 100 cents on the dollar. There is another strong interest and this is the interest of the centralizing European Union government and the interest of the European Central Bank as the power-maker for all of the countries.
So they are using the Greek crisis to establish that ruling power structure….
http://kingworldnews.com/paul-craig-roberts-new-greek-government-may-assassinated/ (http://kingworldnews.com/paul-craig-roberts-new-greek-government-may-assassinated/)
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Superpowers Battle Over Greece As Europe Trembles With Fear Of World War III
February 03, 2015
Today one of the top minds in the business warned King World News that Greece has now become the center of a much larger global war Between Russia, China, the U.S. And Europe. This interview takes a trip down the rabbit hole of a global conflict that is now raging between superpowers of the world over Greece as Europe trembles with fear of World War III.
Stephen Leeb: “Right now all eyes are on Greece. What happens if Greece drops out of the euro? That would be catastrophic for the euro. Greece owes over $300 billion to European banks. This is why a default would be so incredibly disastrous….
“At the same time, Greece has become very close to Russia and China. Both of these countries plan to use Greece in a way that will make relations very, very difficult with the West.
Greece – Major Battle In A Global War
For Russia that will include a new gas pipeline that goes through Greece. For China it will include high-speed rails. That will bring the Balkans closer to the East. It will dramatically increase Russia's and China’s influence and control over this region. Greece is not just some little country that is part of the eurozone. It’s a pivot point between the East and the West.
So Greece is battleground being fought between the East and the West. Whoever wins that battle will end up in a power position in Europe. What you are seeing play out right now is a major battle in a new World War between the East and the West.
Read more...
http://kingworldnews.com/superpowers-battle-greece-europe-trembles-fear-world-war-iii/ (http://kingworldnews.com/superpowers-battle-greece-europe-trembles-fear-world-war-iii/)
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More exciting news...
Eurogroup Gives Greece 10 Day Ultimatum: Apply For Bailout Or Grexit
GREECE MUST APPLY FOR BAILOUT EXTENSION ON FEB 16 AT THE LATEST TO KEEP EURO ZONE FINANCIAL BACKING -EUROGROUP CHAIRMAN DIJSSELBLOEM
This means that Greece now has 10 days, or until the Monday after next to decide whether it will stay in the Eurozone or Grexit. More from Reuters:
[Yanis Varoufakis] made clear that the new government, which came to power on a wave of anti-austerity anger in elections last month, now wanted to forego remaining bailout money that had austerity strings attached:
"Greece is not asking for the remaining tranches of the current bailout programme - except the 1.9 billion euros that the ECB and the EU member states' central banks must return."
Euro zone finance ministers will discuss how to proceed with financial support for Athens at a special session next Wednesday ahead of the first summit of EU leaders with the new Greek prime minister, Alexis Tsipras, the following day.
However, the chairman of the finance ministers said the following meeting of the Eurogroup on Feb. 16 would be Greece's last chance to apply for a bailout extension because some euro zone countries would need to consult their parliaments.
"Time will become very short if they (Greece) don't ask for an extension (by then)," said Jeroen Dijsselbloem.
The current bailout for Greece expires on Feb 28. Without it the country will not get financing or debt relief from its lenders and has little hope of financing itself in the markets.
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Participants said no progress was made at a preparatory meeting of senior finance officials in Brussels on Thursday because Greece and its euro zone partners were so far apart.
"It was Greece against all others, basically one versus 18," one official said.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-06/eurogroup-gives-greece-10-day-ultimatum (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-06/eurogroup-gives-greece-10-day-ultimatum)
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Jordan releases retaliatory video for IS hostage murder
(What did they really attack in that video? IS in Syria? Who can we trust did they really attack? Someone check Syrian news what they have to say about this.)
Jordan releases retaliatory video for IS hostage murder (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU0OsRMonqY#ws)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/jordan/11394457/Jordan-releases-retaliatory-video-for-IS-hostage-murder.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/jordan/11394457/Jordan-releases-retaliatory-video-for-IS-hostage-murder.html)
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wow, 4 hour talk between Hollande, Merkel and Putin.
I'm wondering what else they REALLY met about besides the false headline.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31158925 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31158925)
Update after the meeting...
http://rt.com/news/230211-hollande-war-merkel-ukraine/ (http://rt.com/news/230211-hollande-war-merkel-ukraine/)
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There will be NO Greek exit from the EU.
It is all a dance, the Hegelian dialectic in action.
Rock Star Greek Finance Minister is an agent of the BOYS / BANKERS.
His solutions written clearly in his blog http://yanisvaroufakis.eu/ (http://yanisvaroufakis.eu/) are exactly what the BOYS / BANKERS want.
It's all a SHOW!
What the BOYS want and this Greek Finance Minister wants is to form a USA style FEDeral Reserve Bank in the European Union.
His solution is exactly what leads the EU to a tighter bind on the way to USA style country where the EU and its member countries are reduced to states without any real power.
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This analysis was brought to you by ANDREW GAUSE at oneradionetwork.com, I'm listening now.
So sit back and relax... the BANKSTERS have orchestrated this entire Greek Drama. They are masters at public deception and they have succeeded... AGAIN.
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Listen to Andy Gause when his newest podcast is eventually posted at http://oneradionetwork.com/the-real-world-of-money/ (http://oneradionetwork.com/the-real-world-of-money/)
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Saturday, February 14, 2015
Busted: Kiev MPs try to fool US senator with ‘proof’ / FAKE of Russian tanks in Ukraine
Busted Kiev MPs try to fool US senator with ‘proof’ of Russian tanks in Ukraine PHOTOS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3OFKyL7z0Q#ws)
http://youtu.be/D3OFKyL7z0Q (http://youtu.be/D3OFKyL7z0Q)
FAKE, FAKE, FAKE, FAKE --- EXPOSED!
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Friday, February 13, 2015
MINSK-2 The useless agreement which everybody wanted
I have to say that I am both amused and appalled at the completely over-the-top reaction of most commentators to what we might as well call the Mink-2 Agreement (M2A). Apparently, analysis has been abandoned altogether and has now been replaced with hyperbole and vociferous but empty statements. Reading some of the comments made here one could be forgiven for thinking that somehow the war in the Ukraine was over and that the AngloZionist Empire, aided by Putin, Surkov and an anonymous but sinister army of Russian oligarchs, has just inflicted a terrible and final blow to the Novorussian dream.
What is going on here? Has everybody just gone crazy?
In part, this is due that one could read anything, everything and its opposite into this agreement (more about that later) and also to the fact that the western media simply had to present any agreement as a triumph of western willpower, diplomacy and sanctions. This is all utter nonsense, of course, but that is what you get for exposing yourself to the corporate media. So let's set aside all the loud clamouring and use our brains to actually *think*.
Read more: http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.mx/2015/02/the-useless-agreement-which-everybody.html (http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.mx/2015/02/the-useless-agreement-which-everybody.html)
(Finally, an explanation that I can understand.)
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THE MINSK PEACE DEAL IS CLEARLY A SET-UP
REBUTTAL BY
The Anti New York Times
This circle-jerk in Minsk, Belarus is real high-level grease-ball Mafia stuff. All of the participants, including Putin and Porky Poroshenko, know that it's a sick, twisted game that is every bit as phony as the never-ending soap opera known as "The Middle East Peace Talks". But because "public opinion" is an important element of any war, the leaders of France, Germany and Ukraine (all acting under direct orders of the Zionist-Globalist U.S.) and Putin himself all have to show just how hard they are trying to achieve peace before the real war begins. At which time, Russia will rightly blame the West; and the West will falsely accuse "the new Hitler" of breaking the peace.
http://www.tomatobubble.com/id784.html (http://www.tomatobubble.com/id784.html)
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I think understanding exactly what happened in the 2010 polish " event" has great significance regarding what is now going on in Ukraine.
There was an assassination of the entire Polish government most likely conducted by by Russian operatives, in BROAD DAYLIGHT, while Nato stood down and aided in the cover up. This should be as big of a wake up call that western "democracies" are not safe from overt attacks carried out by the world government, as 9-11!
Why is the western powers so up in arms about Ukraine when they turned a blind eye to Poland? Perhaps it is because the democratically elected polish government that was assassinated was working on maintaining complete sovereignty and wasn't going along with either Russia or the west. Since their government could not be corrupted, and the people would never fall for a divide and conquer coop, an agreement was made by both Russia and the west to simply assassinate the heads of the government, IN BROAD DAYLIGHT!
The Ukraine by contrast is corrupt to the core and a divided nation not strong enough to defend itself. Officials backing either side will betray the Ukrainian people in a heart beat. The powers that be know that if they can control the leaders of the government that they can rape that country of their resources. The two wolfs of the east and west smell blood and are fighting over the kill. Any talk about what is best for the Ukrainian people being spouted out by the east or the west is mostly PR BULLSHIT.
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This is so much b*llsh*t I have to intervene! The EU and the US deliberately couped the formerly-democratically-elected Ukrainian government led by Janukowitz and then pretended that they had done so democratically. The US and EU are out-and-out hypocrites and should be heavily sanctioned by the rest of the world and fined heavily for their war-crimes! Putin is in the right, in this case.
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I don't think its bullshit to point out that there are thugs on both sides of the conflict instigating drama that has resulted in the death and destruction of innocent lives in the Ukraine, and elsewhere.
I agree that the EU and US orchestrated the coup to overthrow the Ukrainian government, because they wouldn't join their club, but its possible that there was already corrupt elements within the Ukrainian government, agents of both Russia and the EU which allowed the government of the Ukrainian people to be compromised from within. "The path of the righteous is beset on all sides by the equity of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men" The Ukrainian people were besieged from corrupt officials from within for years, as well as from outside intervention from the east and west. It seems like the fate of 40,000,000 people is being decided by a "thug"- o- war match between the global superpowers.
TD, im not to sure how you stand on this issue.........Are you in agreement, that the polish leaders who couldn't be corrupted were Murdered? and that both the EU,US and Russia were complicit in the assassinations.
This is a huge point that most cheerleaders on the sideline for either side don't consider. That the east and the west while being seemingly at odds with each other on issues may be just staging this grand charade of a false flag revolution in Ukraine for their own selfish ends. Nothing like a cold war to boost nationalism. Could it be that these powers that claim to be such ideological opponents are capable of becoming good buddies when it comes time to work together, side by side, at suppressing true uprisings like what we saw in Poland?
We must rise up and say enough of this bullshit, sideshow. The west was guilty of crimes in the Ukraine and Russia was guilty for crimes against Poland. They are both run by gangsters who cooperate or compete with each other depending on what is in there best interest at the time. What is good for the people in the areas they are fighting over doesn't even get into the talking points, and the politicians who are selected to government positions after such foreign backed coups, are forced to pick between the lesser of two evils( either way I doubt that true liberty for the people of the Ukraine will be part of the agenda.)
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Are you talking about Polish leaders killed during and after ww2 by the Russians? At any rate, I do not see Russia, the US and the EU as working together. If we truly lived in such a totalitarian state we would not be allowed even to discuss the Ukraine on open forum. Well, we do indeed live in totalitarian states, it is just that the totalitarian nature of such nations does not seem as high as you claim it to be.
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I was referring to the 2010 incident in which the polish cabinet was murdered, watch the video!
I was attempting to pander more toward your liberation leaning sympathy, and explain how both the eastern and western powers, regardless of how much they are at odds with each other, share an even stronger malice towards truly free and independent nations on the rise.
The totalitarian forces are infiltrating the smaller republics with their money and power. Although they are not powerful enough to suppress these ideas from being discussed on internet forums they are powerful enough to use the might of the industrial military complex, in concert with a controlled mainstream media to project a completely false pretext for justification of war, as well a perpetuation of epic lies that are being sold as truth.
“A democracy which makes or even effectively prepares for modern, scientific war must necessarily cease to be democratic. No country can be really well prepared for modern war unless it is governed by a tyrant, at the head of a highly trained and perfectly obedient bureaucracy.”
? Aldous Huxley, Ends and Means
I advocate that the people talk among each other and decide for themselves what to think and how to respond to these events that are being used to manipulate the masses into accepting perpetual conflict, as some inescapable truth. Become a mercenary of peace and let us encourage the establishment of a new awareness that spans all boundaries, that is outside the control of money or thugs with guns.
Sagan's words, though a bit optimistic, are as true today as they were back then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AYxH_JpKNY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AYxH_JpKNY)
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Oh that incident. I remember, all that happened was that the polish brass on board insisted on landing despite poor visibility conditions with the air force general in charge overriding the pilot to make sure they landed there instead of another airport. No murder/assassination involved! I freely admit that some conspiracy theories are correct but only those for which there is ample proof.
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Its like pulling teeth trying to get you to see that the discussions should not focus on particulars which make up the sound bites news clips and blog blurbs that pass for truth in this day and age, these are mostly distractions, we can point to certain events and get clues as to what we think is going on in far away places, but there is much more we can actually "do" as human beings, than sit by and passively judge the validity of what the media tells us the world is actually like.
Perhaps the plane crash was a coincidence and not related to the jackals of a secret army. There may not be ample proof but there are a number of inconstancies that cast doubt in my mind of it being totally accidental.... anyway....Regardless of that particular case, there are countless others in which leaders where taken out, and the truth was covered up.
Im not blaming any one secret group or cabal of villains, for the way things are, the violence and deception in the world are reflections of the desires of the people who wish to remain asleep, if it weren't for the consent of the unconscious majority then tyranny would never be able to gain hold . There are multitudes of people who accept things as they are presented to them and only are superficially concerned about the fate of people they pretend to be giving a damn about. The man on the street who pays his taxes and doesn't speak up and speak out when his governments military launches invasions of other nations and drops bombs on innocent civilians of other lands, is just as complicit in the conspiracy which is the "necessity of eternal war" as those who drop the bombs.
Self Destructive Man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVZ_lLUIIyU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVZ_lLUIIyU)
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I have just read that the US plans on sending US troops to the Ukraine. These fools are playing with fire. I fear that in the end Russia will understandably retaliate in the worst way.
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I agree that the EU and US orchestrated the coup to overthrow the Ukrainian government
Not true at all. US simply added a little gasoline to an already big fire. It is all about economy. The whole thing started because Yanukovych promised good life as soon as Ukraine associates itself with EU. Then he suddenly backtracked and started taking carrots from Putin. People are not stupid. Russians never ever had a descent life in their 1000 year history. That's why people revolted, they got tired of crappy life and prospects being associated with looser Russians did not fool many. A little money thrown by the US simply nailed the coffin shut.
Putin is in the right, in this case.
Putin is an idiot (when it comes to economy). He wants to control Ukraine and have Ukraine pay for it. And so far Russia is the one paying for it and he has no idea how to stop bleeding money. He does not want to annex any of the Eastern Europe because he's got no money to feed all these people. Putin wants a peace deal such that Ukraine remains intact, his people control Eastern regions to easily manipulate Kiev, Ukraine pays for the reconstruction, and most important US/EU sanctions are lifted. I know Kerry is an idiot but even to him Putin is totally transparent. I have very distant relatives on both sides so I know what I'm taking about.
Everything looks like it is 1986 all over again. Everyone knows what happened then. Go Putin, Go.
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I have just read that the US plans on sending US troops to the Ukraine
no worries, ain't going to happen. the most US might do is to send weapons.
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no worries, ain't going to happen. the most US might do is to send weapons.
No worries when the US does send weapons?
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Not true at all. US simply added a little gasoline to an already big fire. It is all about economy. The whole thing started because Yanukovych promised good life as soon as Ukraine associates itself with EU. Then he suddenly backtracked and started taking carrots from Putin. People are not stupid. Russians never ever had a descent life in their 1000 year history. That's why people revolted, they got tired of crappy life and prospects being associated with looser Russians did not fool many. A little money thrown by the US simply nailed the coffin shut.
Rubbish. There was many, many billions involved in couping the Ukraine, not just a little money. Without that aid, the so-called "revolution" would never have had a chance.
Putin is an idiot (when it comes to economy). He wants to control Ukraine and have Ukraine pay for it. And so far Russia is the one paying for it and he has no idea how to stop bleeding money. He does not want to annex any of the Eastern Europe because he's got no money to feed all these people. Putin wants a peace deal such that Ukraine remains intact, his people control Eastern regions to easily manipulate Kiev, Ukraine pays for the reconstruction, and most important US/EU sanctions are lifted. I know Kerry is an idiot but even to him Putin is totally transparent. I have very distant relatives on both sides so I know what I'm taking about.
Actually, the EU is the stupid one in this case. It is harming itself greatly via these anti-Putin sanctions and all this, when the euro is steadily collapsing and during the developing financial crisis in southern Europe. The EU will have to give in sooner or later or it will collapse for sure.
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No worries when the US does send weapons?
Sending weapons is, of course, an escalation in initiating conflict and is just another way to wage war, just like with sanctions. It is a very stupid thing to do.
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Sending weapons is, of course, an escalation in initiating conflict and is just another way to wage war, just like with sanctions. It is a very stupid thing to do.
It is clear the USA wants war, all the time... they have been trying very hard to escalate the war... the Russians are trying very hard to hold back.
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Rubbish. There was many, many billions involved in couping the Ukraine, not just a little money. Without that aid, the so-called "revolution" would never have had a chance.
got any proof? i bet you got none. i personally know people who were in the middle of it and how much each person got paid on average. there are no billions in there.
Actually, the EU is the stupid one in this case
EU actually is not doing enough. They should increase pressure on Putin. Just like they squeezed Soviet Union balls before. Little money they are loosing is a small price to pay considering long term effects. In case any of you are blind, Putin is aggressively building Soviet Union v2. Russia is a federation, but only on paper. In reality federation does not exist. Everything gets appointed by one person, from governors and mayors to all key positions in legislation, judicial, executive branches, and enterprise including private. Exactly like it was in the Soviet Union.
Euro is not collapsing. Exporters are very happy to see lower euro. Just last year Airbus was complaining that strong euro (at $1.34/eu) is hurting their business. He would have liked to see it at 1.24 or lower. He got his wish. Just Airbus alone will get billions more in profit by far exceeding losses of not being able to sell apples to Russia.
Markets are already anticipating Greece exit. Greece should've never been part to Euro zone to begin with. It'll be a slight downward trend but nothing catastrophic.
Russians are trying very hard to hold back
Now that is the ultimate rubbish, how you like to say. Poor russians are simply holding back by blatantly grabbing other country land and starting a war in another part.
No worries when the US does send weapons?
How about I ask you this question when China starts bullying Philippines. They already started a little but more to come.
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And one more thing. No country wants to associate itself with Russia except for total loosers like N.Korea, Venezuela, and Iran. Look at Vietnam. It got virtually no ties with Russia anymore. US is now a major trading partner.
And even Cuba is showing a middle finger to Russia and starts flirting with the US.
Russia is going to end up as a sore looser just like it always does. History repeats itself. You have no idea how bad it is. Most technical work force who know English or other European language already left. If oil does not rebound quickly it'll be the end of it because Russia got nothing else.
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got any proof? i bet you got none. i personally know people who were in the middle of it and how much each person got paid on average. there are no billions in there.
I am amused at this blustering. In actual fact, I had already long ago posted an article in which Ron Paul revealed that the US government had spent 5 billion dollars in order to coup the Ukraine. And that does not even include any money spent by more clandestine organisations like the CIA or the amounts the EU spent on the coup. Plus, since most of the money undoubtedly went to rich Mafia types?oligarchs etc. who actually had some power and could disrupt democracy, I seriously doubt you know any such connected people!!!!
Here is the article:-
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2014/march/23/us-democracy-promotion-destroys-democracy-overseas/ (http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2014/march/23/us-democracy-promotion-destroys-democracy-overseas/)
EU actually is not doing enough. They should increase pressure on Putin. Just like they squeezed Soviet Union balls before. Little money they are losing is a small price to pay considering long term effects. In case any of you are blind, Putin is aggressively building Soviet Union v2. Russia is a federation, but only on paper. In reality federation does not exist. Everything gets appointed by one person, from governors and mayors to all key positions in legislation, judicial, executive branches, and enterprise including private. Exactly like it was in the Soviet Union.
Putin, however, has no plans to expand as he knows that building another empire would simply exhaust the Russian economy. All he ever wanted was that the US, NATO and the EU stay outside the limited Russian sphere of interest, but they were too megalomaniac.
Euro is not collapsing. Exporters are very happy to see lower euro. Just last year Airbus was complaining that strong euro (at $1.34/eu) is hurting their business. He would have liked to see it at 1.24 or lower. He got his wish. Just Airbus alone will get billions more in profit by far exceeding losses of not being able to sell apples to Russia.
Well, Greece and the rest of southern Europe are such a financial mess that most of those there would not agree with you. Unemployment is also rising everywhere, even in Austria which, deceptively, is "supposed" to have the lowest unemployment rate in all of Europe.
Markets are already anticipating Greece exit. Greece should've never been part to Euro zone to begin with. It'll be a slight downward trend but nothing catastrophic.
If Greece goes, other countries like Italy and Portugal will want to go. They previously did well on currencies which had a much lower value than the euro so the advent of the euro ruined them subsequently.
Now that is the ultimate rubbish, how you like to say. Poor russians are simply holding back by blatantly grabbing other country land and starting a war in another part.
Strictly speaking, Russia would have been in the right to impose a different Ukraine government to the one which couped Yanukovich. However, they never went that far. Instead, they simply looked out for those parts in the Ukraine which were dominated by ethnic Russians and put them under Russian rule. Crimea, for example, was under Russian rule until c.1950 when a mere pencil-stroke put it under Ukraine jurisdiction.
How about I ask you this question when China starts bullying Philippines. They already started a little but more to come.
Well, obviously, it is time for other Asian nations to arm themselves rather than relying on US army bases to protect them.
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Protect them from what? Why do we need to arm more and more people? Couldn't those resources if used to build peaceful relations, do more to serve the peace and prosperity of everyone
There is an Idea that the whole world has been divided against itself, and everyone is holding everyone else hostage. This is a false projection built upon the zeitgeist perpetrated by the powers that be. From a worldly view I agree with Tyler that the EU and the US, operatives involved are acting irrationally, and possibly insane. A big problem is that there is no recourse for the Billionaire financiers or the war hawk Senators who are engaged in escalating the situation.
Do the American people, or the citizens of EU nations really agree that its a good Idea to spend Billions, in order to overthrow a government of 40,000,000 people. Is it wise to send weapons into a mad house? Do the Russian people want to have to be responsible for fighting over their interest in the Ukraine? Do the Ukrainian people want two super powers sending in billions of dollars in bribe money and weapons, that will be used to corrupt its officials and kill its people?
No! Id say most people could agree that the issue is not about what is being perpetrated by the media and the super powers themselves. The issue is Tyranny.... Tyranny besets from all sides, and as soon as you chose to side with one faction or another, you give the tyrants their authority over issues that would be best handled on the local level, by the local people, peacefully. This is what tyranny looks like in our age.... money and power knows no boundaries and is loyal to no nation. Nations like corporations are not PEOPLE, yet if we view them as such, they take on a life of their own.
Russia's government is not the Russian people, American government is not the American people, and the EU is not the European people. What these organizations are ,primarily reflects the interest of the oligarchs and elite that use the structure of national governments as strong holds by which to tyrannize the world, often to the determent of peace and prosperity for the average person in provincial areas . From the safety of their pleasure places the wealthy work with the corruptible leaders nations and use billions of dollars of other peoples money, along with the armies of the poor and economically enslaved, for their own selfish ends.
If the same money and resources that go into tyrannizing and economic empire building, were instead dedicated to developing energy and resource sustainability and independence, for the different regions of the world, then there would be no reason for such conflict and strife, like what is being projected upon us, on the global scale by the powers that be.
Perhaps I overestimate how the goodness in human nature can thrive without the presence of strong authority to keep it in line. We the people of earth may indeed need the Men In Black in order to keep a handle on things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-K_Cyxjf8A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-K_Cyxjf8A)
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Couldn't those resources if used to build peaceful relations, do more to serve the peace and prosperity of everyone
Stop daydreaming and get back to reality. Throughout all human evolution armed conflicts have been an everyday thing. It can't just change overnight. I foresee more conflicts in the future as expanding population is going to fight for limited resources.
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I had already long ago posted an article in which Ron Paul revealed that the US government
Ron Paul gets his facts out of thin air.
I seriously doubt you know any such connected people!!!!
As a matter of fact I do. Yuri is the insider. He worked for the opposition boss, that guy is now prime minister.
What makes you think Paul who has never been in Ukraine knows more than the insiders?
Putin, however, has no plans to expand as he knows that building another empire would simply exhaust the Russian economy
Of course he had grand plans to expand. Only blind does not see that. He even calculated the price of sanctions before he grabbed Crimea region. What he did not anticipate is the oil collapse. You just don't get it, Putin is bankrupting Russia with his dumb Ukraine affair. Russia has only enough money to last year and half and if oil does not rebound Russia will face default and maybe even further breakdown a la Soviet Union.
I have distant relatives in Crimea and at first they were ecstatic to join Russia. Now a year later that economic reality is setting in they are questioning if that was a good idea.
Well, obviously, it is time for other Asian nations to arm themselves rather than relying on US army bases to protect them.
You must be joking. It's like I'm telling you go and buy yourself a private jet. We are talking about 3rd world countries who have very limited budget. They just don't have the money to arm themselves to counter Chinese military machine.
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If Greece goes, other countries like Italy and Portugal will want to go.
It appears so at first. But it is not. You will see it for yourself.
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Stop daydreaming and get back to reality. Throughout all human evolution armed conflicts have been an everyday thing. It can't just change overnight. I foresee more conflicts in the future as expanding population is going to fight for limited resources.
Don't project failure upon all those who hope for a better future, dreamers are needed now, more than ever. The changes may not happen over the long night while the unconscious slumber, but the day will come when the call to awaken will be heard, and in that day reality will only be limited by our dreams!
Are You A Dreamer?
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=waking+life+are+you+a+dreamer&form=VIRE1&first=1#view=detail&mid=86DBF0D6A27416850A4B86DBF0D6A27416850A4B (http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=waking+life+are+you+a+dreamer&form=VIRE1&first=1#view=detail&mid=86DBF0D6A27416850A4B86DBF0D6A27416850A4B)
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There is nothing wrong with dreaming of a better future. As long as you are not detached from reality. And the reality is humanity is not ready yet for peaceful+logical+economical coexistence. It has a very long way to go, maybe even another millennia.
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ys, it seems you know very little about actual reality when it comes to society, war, who humans are, why we are as we are, how we got to where we are, and most importantly how easy it would be to get out of it and how quickly it would go (it wouldn't take hundreds or thousands of years, maybe just a few decades).
Sadness takes over when reading your posts... Would expect someone on a raw diet to be more aware by now... You know perfectly well how we are lied to about diet and health, it really is not a big stretch to apply the same mentality to everything else. In fact it would be a smaller stretch than the diet and health one, since the primary foundation of survival itself is diet and good health.
If humanity is not ready now, it will never be ready. We are and will be and have always been ready. But we are and have been, on purpose, persistently kept in a position of "unreadiness". You remove that persistent upkeep of false state and lies, and everyone will rather quickly switch to readiness.
The default, natural state of humanity is that of peace and harmony and love. No one wants fighting and war and suffering, everyone wants a good and peaceful life (except some few very twisted and insane individuals/bloodlines).
That someone dreams of better worlds, does not equate, ever, to being detached from reality. In fact those who dream, those know and feel and see the real reality far better than those who don't. You seem to be one that does very very very little dreaming...
To be able to actually dream of a working better world and how to truly get there, you need to know rather extremely well how the world you presently exist in works.
In other words, those who don't dream or dream too little are in fact severely detached from reality.
If you don't dream you will never find flaws and mistakes in present world upon which to improve and make better.
There is no justified or righteous excuse to not dreaming. Start dreaming, thus finding the reality you yourself are actually in. It is a continuous, bit by bit, process; you won't find everything all at once. And you will make mistakes on the way.
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INTERVIEW WITH PAUL SANDHU ON WAKE UP & LIVE RADIO
Feb 16th: important scoop on how Swiss banks are uniformly denying refusing withdrawals of cash accounts by clients whose account sizes are between hundreds of $millions and $4 to $5 billion, with clients coming mostly European and Swiss but also Asian, Latin American, even Russian, some of the accounts drug money, making evident a bankrupt Swiss banking system suffering the aftermath of the SWFranc de-peg three weeks ago... covered Greek debt default and exit from the European Union, with the banker elite showing desperation, extending from the defiant new Greek leadership... covered the developments toward truce in Ukraine according to the Minsk Treaty, with mention of the devastation at the Debaltseva Cauldrin hotspot, which will identify the United States as the rogue bellicose nation, resulting in extreme US isolation... covered the Western US Port stalled dock situation, lockouts versus union strikes, which might have an element of Chinese vengeance to strangle the USEconomy, seen soon in empty retail store shelves... covered the capture of Latin America, country by country, at the hands of Russia & China
Feb. 16, 2015: Dr. Jim Willie / Mushrooming of Chaos, EU in crisis, US Isolated, Russia-China ahead (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpNKtz0wCZs#ws)
http://youtu.be/TpNKtz0wCZs (http://youtu.be/TpNKtz0wCZs)
It would be interesting to read what YS has to say about this particular Jim Willie interview. It is loaded again with amazing info.
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"the long night"
Hmm, I wonder, did you get that concept from Poul Anderson's Flandry series of SF books?
http://poulandersonappreciation.blogspot.com/2012/04/long-night.html (http://poulandersonappreciation.blogspot.com/2012/04/long-night.html)
They are a wonderful read, if a bit of a ripoff of the roman empire's history.
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Ron Paul gets his facts out of thin air.
No, he was a Congressman for many years so inevitably has a deep knowledge of the US government.
As a matter of fact I do. Yuri is the insider. He worked for the opposition boss, that guy is now prime minister.
"Worked for". Working in a menial capacity isn't much. The point I was making, anyway, was that all those billions from the EU and the US were not reaching the populace, just those movers and shakers(ie oligarchs/mob-bosses/party-leaders) who could actually get a revolution going. Obviously, the average man on the street would have been lucky to get the equivalent of 10 dollars for rioting against the elected government for months.
What makes you think Paul who has never been in Ukraine knows more than the insiders?
As a Congressman , he would have had some access to Intelligence reports.
Of course he had grand plans to expand. Only blind does not see that. He even calculated the price of sanctions before he grabbed Crimea region. What he did not anticipate is the oil collapse. You just don't get it, Putin is bankrupting Russia with his dumb Ukraine affair. Russia has only enough money to last year and half and if oil does not rebound Russia will face default and maybe even further breakdown a la Soviet Union.
I have distant relatives in Crimea and at first they were ecstatic to join Russia. Now a year later that economic reality is setting in they are questioning if that was a good idea.
Well, plenty of people have been predicting collapse all over, but it still has not happened. As for the Crimea, the ethnic Russians there were, understandably, glad that Russia took it over as it was always Russian anyway after the Turks lost it. I am sure they just do not comprehend how the EU and US can be so stupid as to back the notion that the Ukraine has any legal right to the Crimea.
You must be joking. It's like I'm telling you go and buy yourself a private jet. We are talking about 3rd world countries who have very limited budget. They just don't have the money to arm themselves to counter Chinese military machine.
The Chinese do not yet have a sufficient navy to do mass invasions of Taiwan or the like. Besides, there are richer Asian countries out there such as Japan and South Korea who could ward off China if allowed to rebuild their military fully.
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Hmm, I wonder, did you get that concept from Poul Anderson's Flandry series of SF books?
http://poulandersonappreciation.blogspot.com/2012/04/long-night.html (http://poulandersonappreciation.blogspot.com/2012/04/long-night.html)
They are a wonderful read, if a bit of a ripoff of the roman empire's history.
The concept is much older and more universal, it is relevant to the age old drama of the human seeker told by of storytellers past present and future ... It was a reference to the long "dark night of the soul", in which the mystic seeker must go through in order to have a spiritual awaking and find union with " the Divine"... This concept can be applied to an individual life, or in this case the collective soul of year 2015 humanity, in which an entire era can be seen as the long dark night, after which the dawning of the sun will awaken the world.
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I found the documentary Ring Of Power to be a very interesting explanation of what is behind all of this, it is very long, but well worth watching as it contains so much information from so many angles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CObE4Cnuw5k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CObE4Cnuw5k)
For example why the Viking sail, the East India Company flag, and the US flag all contain red and white stripes.
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Truth in Media: Origin of ISIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6kdi1UXxhY#ws)
http://youtu.be/o6kdi1UXxhY (http://youtu.be/o6kdi1UXxhY)
I believe we have plenty of Americans in this forum. Is it still safe for you to post a video like this and spread on your facebook accounts?
Published on Feb 25, 2015
http://benswann.com/contribute (http://benswann.com/contribute)
In this episode of Truth in Media, Ben Swann explores the origin of ISIS that has already been long forgotten by American media. Swann takes on the central issue of whether or not ISIS was created by "inaction" by the United States government or by "direct" action.
This has to be the most easy to understand direct to the point explanation of ISIS in 12 minutes.
Can you Americans do something about this mess so we can have world peace?
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“The war, therefore if we judge it by the standards of previous wars, is merely an imposture. It is like the battles between certain ruminant animals whose horns are incapable of hurting one another. But though it is unreal it is not meaningless. It eats up the surplus of consumable goods, and it helps to preserve the special mental atmosphere that the hierarchical society needs. War, it will be seen, is now a purely internal affair. In the past, the ruling groups of all countries, although they might recognize their common interest and therefore limit the destructiveness of war, did fight against one another, and the victor always plundered the vanquished. In our own day they are not fighting against one another at all. The war is waged by each ruling group against its own subjects, and the object of the war is not to make or prevent conquests of territory, but to keep the structure of society intact. The very word "war," therefore, has become misleading. It would probably be accurate to say that by becoming continuous war has ceased to exist. The peculiar pressure that is exerted on human beings between the Neolithic Age and the early twentieth century has disappeared and has been replaced by something quite different. The effect would be much the same if the three superstates, instead of fighting one another, should agree to live in perpetual peace, each inviolate within its own boundaries. For in that case each would still be a self-contained universe, freed forever from the sobering influence of external danger. A peace that was truly permanent would be the same as a permanent war. This--although the vast majority of Party members understand it only in a shallower sense--is the inner meaning of the Party slogan: WAR IS PEACE.” George Orwell
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"The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous. Hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance. This new version is the past and no different past can ever have existed. In principle the war effort is always planned to keep society on the brink of starvation. The war is waged by the ruling group against its own subjects and its object is not the victory over either Eurasia or East Asia, but to keep the very structure of society intact." George Orwell
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I believe we have plenty of Americans in this forum. Is it still safe for you to post a video like this and spread on your facebook accounts? ... Can you Americans do something about this mess so we can have world peace?
You have an interesting way of turning phrases, GS.
From within, the US is a regular place with regular people. It is certainly pleasant enough that your fellow countrymen fill a generous immigration quota each year and bring their culture here for good-ol' American assimilation.
It is easily observable that much of our governing system is an oligarchy, which I think is a natural tendency in the governments of industrial nations. You can see that tendency clearly in the biographies of our early industrialists: Vanderbilt, Carnegie, Morgan, Gould, Rockefeller. etc. Control is part of the psychology of people with big dreams, so there was no escaping the formation of oligarchy.
Then, there is a question of how being an oligarchy affects US foreign policy. If you go back to the last century, you can see how the energy giants that formed the basis of our industrial development exploited energy resources in other countries by conspiring with a friendly (= well-compensated) government. It was a de facto colonization of those areas in the guise of international cooperation.
You can see the colony's side of that type of interaction in your own country's colonial history. You were Spain's colony, but after that, you had the same treatment from the US as you did formerly from Spain, but the word "colony" wasn't used. Resentment of that type of treatment leads to revolutions for independence followed by a power struggle for the control of the new government. The big picture is that the Arab nations are going through their post-(de facto) colonization period. They have to hate us because our oligarchists are the ugly Americans with an expressed tendency to put money ahead of people. From the money perspective, they are the good guys. From the human perspective, they are as bad as a human gangster can get.
There is a growing side of benevolence among oligarchists, which I why I used the word tendency, and not certainty. Carnegie was probably the first "big-name" industrialist to endorse philanthropy, but we see a burst of philanthropic activities among all wealthy Americans nowadays.
And the rest of "us" are just regular people who post a vast variety of weirdness on the internet with no fear of reprisal.
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Thanks for the education Eve.
I think some of the members of this forum are members of the powers that be.
We provide enough anonymity for the powers that be to join in.
And seeing that the powerful people are long lived and healthy, I can assume raw paleo diet in some form is one of their tools for health and sharp mindedness.
Hopefully you guys and gals with the powers can help make this world a more peaceful more wonderful place.
Or maybe Im just a dreamer, and today's state of the world affairs are already better?
Maybe because of the internet we are just able to inform ourselves of so much detailed news around the world... and ignorance pre internet was bliss?
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Big Brother is watching you 8)
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Many countries, including the US, have worthy human-rights aims, but sometimes the Machiavellian side of human nature emerges in the execution of these goals. We (the US) express horror over events like the immolation of that Jordanian pilot, yet our government has its own hands stained with equally atrocious acts in the name of national security. Apparently, we are able to be very covert about it because atrocities are not being aimed at the man on the street - we definitely do not experience midnight disappearances of most US dissenters, because we do not have a totalitarian government. Therefore, we don't suspect that bad things are happening until someone spills the beans about hidden activities.
In addition, our central government has limited powers, so state and local governments are small enough to be ideologically compatible with their constituents, reducing our focus to local matters. We may listen to national concerns, but we think about local concerns. Also, our preference for "privacy" makes us blind to anything outside our front door; we are content as long as nobody rams down our door and loots our stuff.
I understand that your own country has had a recent history of woeful government practices during a regime that performed many social improvements with Machiavellian means. Political climates change with the seasons. Hopefully, we remember enough of the bad times to avoid repeating them.
I believe that dreamers can change the world around them, but you would need a massive concentration of dreamers to change the whole world... and even then, would all dreamers agree on the ends and the means? Nowadays, dreamers can communicate easily via the internet. Before the internet, communities weren't so global, so people had other ways to communicate easily. Long ago, American Revolutionaries communicated easily by hand-operated printing press, horse, and sailing ship (to get to France for military support), and from my perspective, they were successful in improving many things in their community.
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The liberal spreading of the ideals of dreamers, through the printing press lit fires in the minds of men and inspired many to willfully disregard authoritarianism and construct the mindset of a liberated people. This power of newly emergent media forms to affect the collective mental Construct of the multitudes is immense, and can be welded for good or for ill. The power of the free press took away from the tyrant the monopoly on truth which had been used so effectively through the dark ages to maintain the hierarchical structures of feudalism.
Thomas Paine was read by everyone who was anyone who participated in the American revolution, and although most of the founders did not publicly acknowledge the impact of the Ideas written into " the age of reason" had upon them, it was apparent that their actions were influenced by and reflected many of the more radical sentiments of Paine... If not for the advent and utilization of the new media at the time, Thomas Paine may have just been written off as some crack pot, or executed as a traitor by the powers that be.
Eventually a new world became established, different in some ways, yet similar in others.... the print media that was once a fresh and wild frontier that beaconed to the call of the liberated patriot for" liberty and justice" for all, eventually became incorporated into the power structure of a new establishment, determined to rebuild and maintain the hierarchical structures of the stratified society . Once again the lid was put back on the crack pots and revolutionaries who railed against the crown, the genie of unbridled Truth was shoved back into its bottle, the fires that once burned bright in the minds of men died out.
There are patterns that one can discern in the cycles of evolution, revolution and ecology that occur within all realms of thought, be it sociopolitical, astronomical or biological. What kind of world one wishes to construct using the patterns set out before us is for us to work out in our own time and in our own way. The American dream was born out of the melting pot of the combine efforts of millions of dreamers and hard working folk. In this Ideal there is no exclusivity, everyone is free to participate in the collective dream.
Now in subjective reality this ideal may not hold true for many or even most people, but with out these Ideals we would have nothing to strive for, no moral compass by which to coordinate our efforts. Perhaps we collectively work with and against each other to cultivate strife as the mechanism by which to bring about the next stage in our evolution. "You don't depart for the stars under calm and orderly conditions, Its a fire in a mad house"
What we now possess with the power of instant communication is a freedom of press that is millions of times greater than what the old time pamphlet spreading revolutionaries could ever have dreamed. With great power comes great responsibility, and with great wisdom one may find great suffering, so let us encourage each other in the facilitation of a responsible search for truth and meaning, in a brave new world that is often very lacking in either.
"Lead follow or get out of the Way" Thomas Paine
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Breaking the NWO mold... dangerous move.
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/02/27/399490/Hungary-PM-rejects-immigration (http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/02/27/399490/Hungary-PM-rejects-immigration)
Hungary Prime Minister rejects immigration, multiculturalism
Feb 27, 2015
Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has condemned liberalism and multiculturalism and promised to battle rising immigration, saying it is turning his country into a "refugee camp."
"(A Hungarian) does not want to see throngs of people pouring into his country from other cultures who are incapable of adapting and are a threat to public safety, to his job and to his livelihood," The Associated Press quoted Orban as saying during his annual state of the nation speech in the capital Budapest on Friday.
"The Hungarian man is, by nature, politically incorrect. That is, he has not lost his common sense," he added.
The European Union member state has seen an influx of migrants this year, many of whom are from Kosovo and trying to reach Germany and western countries.
The prime minister also referred to a multicultural society as "a delusion" and went on to defend the Hungarian government’s efforts to dump "liberal social policies" which he claimed rejected Christian culture.
Orban’s last year declaration that he wished his nation to be an "illiberal" state sparked censure from Western countries.
He also hailed the Hungarian government’s irregular economic policies, some of which have drawn criticism from investors because they levy higher tax rates for banks and non-domestic companies.
"Hungary has become an economic success story, which is slowly being recognized by Europe," he said, referring to the country's 2014 estimated growth rate of 3.5 percent.
SRK/AS/MHB
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Orban is a great guy. He was one of the few leaders within the EU to try to make friends with Putin rather than supporting the illegal undemocratic coup in the Ukraine. My relatives think he and Putin are all bad and blindly believe in whatever the press says. My own brother, who is a powerful figure in finance, and therefore really ought to know better, just recently blindly parrotted, perhaps without realising, an anti-Putin propaganda piece in the papers which purported to claim how Putin's mind works. One would think that someone with control over investments would be a bit wiser and rely on high-level contacts with Putin's actual government before making any statements, but it seems that most people who control our investments just haven't a clue and blindly throw money to wherever their whims lie.
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Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has condemned liberalism and multiculturalism and promised to battle rising immigration, saying it is turning his country into a "refugee camp."
"(A Hungarian) does not want to see throngs of people pouring into his country from other cultures who are incapable of adapting and are a threat to public safety, to his job and to his livelihood," The Associated Press quoted Orban as saying during his annual state of the nation speech in the capital Budapest on Friday.
Of course, Hungary may do as it pleases, but from my assimilative perspective, people from other cultures are not incapable of adapting and are not a threat to public safety, etc. The "huddled masses" that come here in to California are lively, adventurous people, a little timid at first, and eager to return smiles. Maybe my area of the US has the knack of promoting assimilation because we have had so much experience at it, so I'm not saying it's easy. But it certainly does not foretell doom.
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It all depends on what sort of immigration, I suppose. If the immigration involves hordes of illiterate, unassimilable, low-skilled workers who do not speak the local language and who are being used as low-wage slaves, then obviously that is a big minus. Slaves hate being used like cattle, even if their circumstances are better than in their own country of origin, so inevitably will do the absolute minimum in work as regards standards and quality, thus producing shoddy products with low durability etc. In the UK, mass immigration has made many indigenous UKers unable to find work because companies would far rather hire a foreign slave for a small fraction of the salary that a UKer would reasonably expect. In short, mass immigration drives down the average wage of the indigenous and discourages assimilation. Assimiliation can only really work if immigration happens in dribs and drabs as that allows time for gradual assimiliation to occur. It also helps greatly, judging from world history, if incoming immigrants not only adopt the local language but also the local customs, culture and religion.
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If the immigration involves hordes of illiterate, unassimilable, low-skilled workers who do not speak the local language and who are being used as low-wage slaves, then obviously that is a big minus.
There is a great range of immigrant qualities, but I don't see their deficits as willful. It's just a matter of time before they assimilate - and sometimes the immigrant generation doesn't assimilate well, but their children do. What many immigrants lack in skills they more than make up for in determination.
In the US's immigrant history, there have been times when immigrants have had to fight for their rights, but everybody here has rights that they have to fight for from time to time, so that's just part of life. It's not the immigrant's crime that someone is enslaving them, so dealing with that crime is a separate issue.
It also helps if the immigrant's new community is slightly welcoming, although this should go without saying. Find out why a person immigrates and then imagine yourself in that person's shoes. My family's immigrant generation sought refuge at the tip of the bayonet. All the host country has to do is be half-nice and they will see their immigrants in a completely different light.
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Well, I can only go by my own family's experience. We have been immigrants for some generations. Either some of us completely integrated with the relevant country in any and all respects or, like my father, would simply travel abroad and stay just for a few years at a time in different foreign countries where he could not possibly be properly assimilated. Since he left regularly to go abroad and did not stay indefinitely, he was more easily welcomed by the indigenous community than would otherwise have been the case.
As for the US, I believe the term used to describe the current situation there, fuelled by mass immigration, is "bladerunner scenario". Nice film, but it shows a dystopic Earth I would not want to live in. Though living in the space colonies not specifically featured in the film would not be an issue.
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How massive is the immigration inflow the past 2 decades compared to those of other immigration experiences in prior generations? Maybe the quantity is just so fantastically significantly different?
UK will be a majority islamic country in 2050? How about France?
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/3770/the_islamic_future_of_britain (http://www.thecommentator.com/article/3770/the_islamic_future_of_britain)
Norway Just Deported 824 Muslims, Violent Crime Dropped By 30%
Norway recently made the controversial decision to deport a large amount of Muslims with ties to radical groups.
http://qpolitical.com/norway-just-deported-824-muslims-every-american-needs-to-see-what-happened-next/ (http://qpolitical.com/norway-just-deported-824-muslims-every-american-needs-to-see-what-happened-next/)
Sweden: Rape Capital of the West
by Ingrid Carlqvist and Lars Hedegaard
February 14, 2015
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape (http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape)
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Yes, the many negatives that immigrant communities bring such as increased crime-rates, no-go areas in inner cities etc., are rarely, if ever, mentioned in the mass media. Thank god for the Internet!
The most amusing example was the case of the Marielitos from Cuba. Fidel Castro decided to empty his prisons and lunatic asylums in the early 1980s and send them off to the US disguised as refugees so that they could "contribute to" and "enhance" the US in their very own way! The US, moronically, welcomed them with open arms >D l) ;D
One other point:- there is basically one overriding reason why people immigrate en masse, these days. Namely, that their own people have already ruined their home country via corruption, incompetence or mismamanagement etc., or, secondly, because of constant wars. Now, given that Israel is the prime instigator behind several recent wars in the Middle-East, should it not be Israel which has to invite the rising tide of war-refugees there? As regards the first point, I think it is reasonable for so-called "economic migrants"(such an overly pleasant, politically-correct term to describe something far worse) to be forced to stay in their own countries and actually solve their own problems rather than simply exporting those same unsolved problems to other countries via mass immigration.
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As for the US, I believe the term used to describe the current situation there, fuelled by mass immigration, is "bladerunner scenario". Nice film, but it shows a dystopic Earth I would not want to live in.
A "bladerunner scenario" is not my current situation, that's for sure!
It makes me laugh and cry when I read about the US from an outsider's perspective. We have our problems, and we solve many of those problems and hope the solutions have some merit. I've lived in either rural or urban California for the past forty-five years and I feel like a normal person with a normal life. As a resident of a hub of global commerce, I live among "traders" (= immigrants) from many lands. As a citizen in a capitalistic society, I always face the temptation to be overly materialistic. As a woman protected by the Equal Rights legislation, I have pursued a life that fulfills my desires for myself and my family. I have never, not even once, dreamed of living elsewhere because of my dissatisfaction with American Inperfection.
I belong to the large socio-economic "middle" class of America. We complain a lot about every little imperfection, but we are not suffering. Above me, the socio-economic "upper middle" and "upper" classes also complain a lot about every little thing, and they do not suffer. Our impoverished "lower" class is suffering in material ways, but the remedy is elusive.
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Except that the middle-class in the US is being crushed right now.
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Except that the middle-class in the US is being crushed right now.
We are? The economic statistics of the middle class has its historical ups and downs, but we do tolerably well even at the lowest points. Crushed is too strong a word. Maybe a few hairs on our heads are being ruffled by the breeze.
I wish the middle class would shut up and look down to the poor, who have been crushed so long that it doesn't even make the news.
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Comparing the middle-class of Western nations to the scum at the lowest level such as in Calcutta, Lagos etc. is not a good way to show how well the middle-class is doing! In fact the middle-class is doing worse and worse and current mass immigration is increasing this problem in a number of ways.
http://www.salon.com/2014/04/19/reaganomics_killed_americas_middle_class_partner/ (http://www.salon.com/2014/04/19/reaganomics_killed_americas_middle_class_partner/)
http://www.today.com/id/3079221/ns/today-money/t/why-middle-class-mothers-fathers-are-going-broke/#.VPPw9O7nRJc (http://www.today.com/id/3079221/ns/today-money/t/why-middle-class-mothers-fathers-are-going-broke/#.VPPw9O7nRJc)
What is idiotic is that increased automation was always a better solution than inviting in masses of unskilled immigrants. At least, Japan is doing something in that line.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIzivCJ9pzU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIzivCJ9pzU)
They took err Jobs!
Where I live for years we always had seasonal migrant workers for the tobacco fields, and horse farms mostly from Mexico. It had little effect on the overall jobs market in the area until about the late 90s when there was a huge influx in illegal Mexicans. The area where I grew up got renamed little Mexico when over the course of 5 years, around 30 thousand immigrants moved to a town of about 300,000. The available farmhand positions where taken, and eventually they began to enter into the construction trades, during the housing booms of early 2000. They had a huge impact in lowering the wages of the average construction worker. Drywallers, brick layers, painters, etc. who once were worth 18 per hour could now barely get 10.
The construction methods during this time reflected the race to the bottom and now its impossible for highly skilled craftsman and artisans who wish to build quality homes with quality materials to compete in the market where a few conglomerate companies with a small army of cheap labor dominate. Many people including my father who had been a builder were put of business during this time.
Then it happened, the great 2008 housing crash and suddenly the demand for cheap immigrant labor dropped off, and the influx has trickled down, and a large number of the Mexican immigrants who came during the first wave are assimilating into the service sectors, of primarily low paying positions. But I will say at least they do work. The primary reason they were allowed to immigrate here in the first place is because Young American workers had become so lazy and entitled that no one wanted to apply themselves to the blue color trades that were once the backbone of the American economy.
This is the reality of today, where millions of Americans with their collage degrees get out into the workforce without having any real world work experience. They are crippled by a great sense of entitlement that prevents them from even considering taking up an honest trade. Instead we have millions who clamor for positions in the cushy compounds of autocratic ineptitude that more and more serve to leech off of the hard working people of the land, while giving less and less back in return. It is many of these same people who look down on the poor and displaced immigrants that are hired out at minimum wage to build and maintain the Ivory tower lifestyle of the middle and upper classes.
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That last is strictly nonsense. The fact is that such unskilled immigration has prevented indigenous types from getting into blue-collar jobs. For example, a British guy I know once wanted to work in various French vineyards in the 90s only to be told that only Polish workers were allowed to work there. I have come across similiar situations where, illegally, ads have been put in UK journals asking for Eastern Europeans only. The reason is simple:- not only do the employers want to pay out only slave-wages, but they are absolutely terrified of non-immigrants doing such jobs anyway because they know that such workers will eventually fight for their rights whereas unskilled immigrants have no power or any legal recourse and so can be as badly treated as possible.
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That last is strictly nonsense. The fact is that such unskilled immigration has prevented indigenous types from getting into blue-collar jobs.
I know what I am talking about, I apprenticed under a Mexican electrician who worked for a company by day and out worked and underbid all the local contractors on the side, (under the moon light). The world of contract labor has a bit of the element of the good the bad and the ugly. I have seen it all, from criminally insane immigrants who should have never been let into the country... to those who are truly good people whom it was an honor to have worked with.
The main point I was attempting to express, was that because large numbers people in industrial nations are becoming slothen entitled and lazy, while at the same time prefab technology has enabled business owners to swap out skilled labor for unskilled labor, there are the perfect conditions that cause the influx of unskilled laborers into communities of people who no longer wish to do menial labor jobs.
High school aged young adults saving for collage, should be the ones who mow grass and do maid service work, take up the seasonal farm work, etc that our nation has imported millions of immigrant laborers to do... Instead a large portion of the middle class youth are of fucking off and accumulating 100,000 in student loan debt, in order to get a degree they may not even be able to use.
I agree that immigrants are not exactly taking our jobs as much as they are being enticed into doing the jobs that the spoiled youth of the industrial world refuses to do. This trend has a huge impact on the direction in which modern society is going. Traditionally it was the young people who would do menial blue collar work, they would earn their own way, while they studied and learned how to transition into a higher position in life. Now days we have perpetual school children who have never did any real work. These educated idiots demand a high paying job right out of collage. The system (primarily designed by academia and the white collar classes) does its best to accommodate , and so we have an imbalance, where there are way tooooo many white collar jobs being created that serve no significant utility, while much of the value of the blue collar worker is diminished by a combination of white collar larceny, outsourcing, and cheap immigrant labor. The masses in the industrial nations are taught a bunch of BS in school that does not translate into the practical world, while "unskilled" "uneducated" migrant workers, haven actual work experience that begins in early childhood are highly adaptable and hard working. Many Mexicans come over with very little skill, and after a few years of hard work they can become master of their trade.
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This is, again, nonsense. Most unskilled immigrants never upgrade their skills due to language problems, poor education in their home countries etc.
The whole point is that many graduates have found out that even when they downgraded to lower-paid blue-collar jobs once many of them could not find higher-paying jobs, they found those blue-collar jobs were being filled with immigrants.
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I can see your point about how immigrants are exploited, by greedy businessmen who are selling our their home country for pesos, though the problems at the heart of the issues is much larger than the issue of immigration. Large companies who cannot take advantage of cheap immigrant labor will often just outsource, rather than pay fair wages to first world workers.
Western societies are selling their soul and work ethic to the Gods of capitalism, There is plenty to be done by people who if properly trained and motivated would not have to submit to employment to the exploitation class in order earn a decent living. Modern man is forgetting the value of self determinism, and becoming more aligned with collectivism. Collectivism and compartmentalism is being used in many ways by the wealthy to exploit the middle class, working class and that do not require and overt totalitarianism to enforce.
A lot of it comes down to early education and conditioning. People have inherent phenomenal potential to do great things and be great producers of wealth ... but very few are conditioned to believe in themselves, nor are they encouraged by the social structures to transcend the narrow ideals of ones obligations in going to school and choosing a JOB. It is the multitudes of people who have been brainwashed and thoroughly conditioned to judge and set limits on each other in order to maintain their own meager ranking. This putting people into groups and pitting people against each other, by organizations which have no connection to the actual local people they govern is a huge part of what makes Classism prevalent.
I am not against classifying and making personal judgments regarding the merit and worth of individuals, I just think that it should be done as locally and democratically as possible. If the people Hungry do not want have their country turned into a refugee camp for the unwanted masses, then that is their right. If people in America are divided on immigration, then we must work out conditions of compromise within local communities, in order to decide what to do.
Whenever you allow the uber wealthy foundations behind the UN, Nato, or even the national governments of the superpower states, to decide issues such as immigration, then there is no way for the people to decide for them selves what kind of community they live in. You don't want 30,000 aliens in your home town too bad, the president signed a piece of paper and it has to be so, or perhaps you like diversity and would welcome some color into your pale faced town, too bad some bigot signed another piece of paper that prohibits people of a certain heritage from joining your community.
With the establishment of a global village it may be possible to better decide on how we the people would like our comminutes to be, than to allow central authorities to make the decisions for us....... then demographics can develop more naturally and organically, if local leaders where allowed to voice their own opinions, without having to pretend to be PC. then perhaps potential immigrants would get the message that this particular town isn't friendly to them and so they will seek out a less decimating home. But because our leaders are forced to lie, and misrepresent their local constituents on a regular basis, it sends mixed messages, that do not help the transited peoples identify the optimal communities in which to flock to.
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It's different in California, ST. We had quota-fulfilling agricultural labor since the 1940s braceros programs. Conditions were oppressive, including substandard "company" housing, no schools for workers' children, and other human indignities. When the farm workers organized in the 1960s, abuses were exposed and corrected. Field agricultural work is much harder than any job in the lowest-wage range. Coming to work in the fields is not the immigrant's dream for himself, but the dream he has for his children's future. He (and his wife) are willing to work themselves to death to raise his children here.
Because most of California's agricultural land is not near cities, it is easier to see that chromic unemployment is not an agricultural problem, but an inner-city problem. It seems to me that the solutions to the endless cycle of poverty are at once obvious and impossible.
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ys, it seems you know very little about actual reality when it comes to society, war, who humans are, why we are as we are, how we got to where we are, and most importantly how easy it would be to get out of it and how quickly it would go (it wouldn't take hundreds or thousands of years, maybe just a few decades).
Sadness takes over when reading your posts... Would expect someone on a raw diet to be more aware by now...
If you think reality is sad then so be it. I'm old enough to seen it all. Most people are like pigs. When they are fed and entertained they seem to care little about everything else. Need proof? Just look around. The mindset is all the same no matter if it is American ghetto, Russian countryside, or Filipino slums. I've seen all three.
Raw diet is not an ideology. It does not change person's mind.
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As a Congressman , he would have had some access to Intelligence reports.
He does not have any access to any intelligence reports. He's been retired for about 2 years now.
And we all know the value of those intelligence reports. Iraqi WMD report, sounds familiar?
I am sure they just do not comprehend how the EU and US can be so stupid as to back the notion that the Ukraine has any legal right to the Crimea.
You really have no clue. It does not matter who lost what 150 years ago. In 1991 when Soviet Union went belly up, there was an agreement between Russia and Ukraine that Ukraine will give up its stockpile of nuclear weapons in exchange Russia will never dispute Ukrainian borders.
The Chinese do not yet have a sufficient navy to do mass invasions of Taiwan or the like. Besides, there are richer Asian countries out there such as Japan and South Korea who could ward off China if allowed to rebuild their military fully.
Neither Japan, not South Korea will do anything to help Philippines if China increases their bullying.
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Is it still safe for you to post a video like this and spread on your facebook accounts?
yes, you can post absolutely all kinds of conspiracy theories.
Except that the middle-class in the US is being crushed right now.
It depends what you mean by middle class. Low/medium skilled factory workers, yes, it is kind of tough on them. They are usually the first to get bumped when economy gets sour.
But engineering field has never been better. There is always a shortage of skilled engineers. We had a position opened for 6 months and we could not find anyone. We had to get Indian guy and sponsor his work visa.
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Well we have a winner.
It seems Islam and Immigration beats Feminism in Sweden no less.
Sweden now seems to be a BAAADDD place to be a woman.
And I thought Sweden was the champion of GENDER studies, equality, etc. Sweden now sucks.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/20142-cover-up-the-swedish-left-s-sacrifice-of-women-to-political-correctness# (http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/20142-cover-up-the-swedish-left-s-sacrifice-of-women-to-political-correctness#)
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I just had to share this picture.
This is a pro-Putin rally about two weeks ago.
Look at their happy faces. The word is they all got paid $4/person to show up. So, you don't need billions to manipulate people.
And of course, check out the jacket.
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It seems Islam and Immigration beats Feminism in Sweden no less.
Sweden for some reason is exceptionally friendly to Muslims. Sweden will end up just like France.
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In a few years we may yet see the euro muslims start massacring the euro infidels.
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In a few years we may yet see the euro muslims start massacring the euro infidels.
Just like the Crusades, but in reverse.
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Just like the Crusades, but in reverse.
You are forgetting the mass slaughter the Arabs carried out against Byzantium, Ancient Persia(Sassanids), Spain and even up to Tours in France. The Crusades were very minor by comparison to all that.
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My own view is that if people want something they should have to pay for it. So all those who want endless wars in the Middle-East should, for example, be forced to pay extra taxes to support the military abroad. And all those in favour of increased immigration, legal or otherwise, should be forced to fund all the costs involved in immigration, even being forced to put up immigrants in their own homes and feeding them and having to spend money to police immigrants and cope with immigrant crime etc., with the State and others not having to spend one penny on this issue.
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But engineering field has never been better. There is always a shortage of skilled engineers. We had a position opened for 6 months and we could not find anyone. We had to get Indian guy and sponsor his work visa.
There are too many lawyers and other professional classes in the US and elsewhere, thus resulting in too many people for too few jobs. Engineering seems to be an exception.
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He does not have any access to any intelligence reports. He's been retired for about 2 years now.
And we all know the value of those intelligence reports. Iraqi WMD report, sounds familiar?
The point is that Ron Paul had enough access to government to be able to deduce that the iraqi wmd report was bogus, for example. It is just foolish to assume that RP does not have connections with other government officials, and therefore plentiful inside knowledge of government secrets, after having been a senator for so long.You really have no clue. It does not matter who lost what 150 years ago. In 1991 when Soviet Union went belly up, there was an agreement between Russia and Ukraine that Ukraine will give up its stockpile of nuclear weapons in exchange Russia will never dispute Ukrainian borders.
The agreement was not something that Russia had to stick to, given that Crimea was part of Russia for centuries right up to c.1950.
Neither Japan, not South Korea will do anything to help Philippines if China increases their bullying.
Pure speculation. Besides, given that China has been targetting Japan as well as the Phillipines in recent times over various islands, one can be sure that they will band together sooner or later against China.
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I just had to share this picture.
This is a pro-Putin rally about two weeks ago.
Look at their happy faces. The word is they all got paid $4/person to show up. So, you don't need billions to manipulate people.
And of course, check out the jacket.
You are missing the point. No revolution has ever succeeded without the support of the middle-class and some of the ruling class. Billions of dollars need to be spent on the latter to get a revolution going. Obviously, the scum/proletariat/mob can be bought for a few dollars each( or even cents in some regions) but they have no real power and have to be led by someone a bit cleverer than them.
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You are forgetting the mass slaughter the Arabs carried out against Byzantium, Ancient Persia(Sassanids), Spain and even up to Tours in France. The Crusades were very minor by comparison to all that.
That's my point - it's not starting in the 21st Century. It has been ever so. I hope that it will not be ever so, but I'm not optimistic. I'm not outraged when an opponent is aggressive because the aggression resides in mankind, not in the opponent.
At the same time, I recognize that the aggression is not in the individual. My neighbors are Muslims among many in my city. My granddaughter plays with their children. I don't see an immigration problem with Muslims.
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That's my point - it's not starting in the 21st Century. It has been ever so. I hope that it will not be ever so, but I'm not optimistic. I'm not outraged when an opponent is aggressive because the aggression resides in mankind, not in the opponent.
At the same time, I recognize that the aggression is not in the individual. My neighbors are Muslims among many in my city. My granddaughter plays with their children. I don't see an immigration problem with Muslims.
Its the divisions and prejudices that are perpetrated in the media which have built this demonic view of Islam. Historically these divisions were made by the religious institutions and monarchies, which have now been replaced by the corporately owned media . The Catholic church, demonized the Muslims and the Islamic priesthood demonized the Christians. This type of hatred and bigotry is engineered by cultural conditioning from the top down and is not an inherent part of human nature. It should be criminal for our press to play out this fear mongering of Islamic extremist day after day after day. Doesn't anyone else who follows the media find it absurd that Islamic terror gets so much air play, when in reality if you live in a western country like America you are thousands of times more likely to be murdered by your fellow country men or even a trigger happy cop than you are to be attacked by Muslim extremist( many of the so called terrorist attacks that are hyped in the media like the Paris attack or the Boston bombing are very suspicious and reek of false flag)
Take away all the hate and fear based indoctrination, and give back the responsibility of determining citizenship to the local people, and then integration and cooperation would become much more easily attained. Before the government and powerful business interest divided the world up with imaginary lines we call boarders, people had to figure these things out for themselves. Certain groups of people had a natural affinity towards each other, and others were hostile, before mass transit made it possible for people to move around so easily, migration must of been a much slower and less autocratically regulated affair.
The world has changed and perhaps there isn't an easy solution to todays mass immigration issue. 100 years ago people could more easily vote with their feet, and when they moved into a town after being compelled to leave their last place, they may have had extra motivation to try to fit into the new culture and earn the respect of their new community. My ancestors settled into the hills of Kentucky and were very promiscuous with the local natives, and were able to live in townships made up of Irish, Scottish, German heritage people with a few Red skins and blacks mixed in without issue. They lived in a time and place, in the back woods where there was no media or religious ideology to engender strong prejudice. My great grandfather, went down to Texas to be a boarder guard, and lived with a pretty Mexican woman and had a child with her before moving back to the hills of Kentucky.
What is happening now is that there is a scarcity based fear mentality being instigated among the lower working classes, who have fallen under the impression that jobs are somehow a finite resource, that are doled out in limited numbers of allotments, and that if outsiders are allowed in then that will somehow take away work from the local people. This has some truth, but only in as much as the way the structure is set up to limit the people from attaining independent lively hoods. There is more work to be done than can ever be done, and the problem is not that companies, governments and corporations are not supplying enough jobs to go around! The issue is that the people have not been properly brought up to see that they do not need centralized authorities to limit the scope of what we would call gainful employment. We are being tied to a game of musical chairs where the number and value of jobs is determined by some arbitrary gaming of the monetary system. If the game doesn't allow for everyone to have room to participate, then we must change the rules of the game, instead of just limiting the number of players allowed.
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You guys *think* that most muslims are as secular islamic like the Turkish model.
Well that is wishfull thinking.
Watch and see how many European countries will become majority Islamic in 2 or more decades. It is inevitable, post christian zero religion is a vaccuum with seculars not reproducing, sunk with abortion, contraception, feminism, homosexuality... key principles post christian political leaders embrace so much for their population reduction policies.
islam with polygamy will replace most of post christian europe. Reverse all the above principles, usher in a new population boom.
The clash of islam vs post christianity is in full swing as predicted.
in 2003 i named my own 2nd boy "Moses Ishmael"... a Christian Name and a Muslim Name. His nickname is Mish. I figured if the Muslims win out in the future, he should go by the name Ishmael. We must be like the bamboo and bend where the wind blows.
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As I understand it many "Muslims" who are in our community, are assimilating rather quickly into American culture. The patriarch may come to America with 3 wives and a boat load of children, but many of those children will grow up Americanized and abandon the more fundamentalist aspects of their religion, much in the same way that the Christians had done. Sure they come over as puritans, but within a few generations they loose the faith.
I think instead of viewing fundamentalism as an adversary and fighting it head on with prejudice , fear and bigotry, there are better methods that would encourage Muslims to integrate and give up their most radical religious beliefs in exchange for what modern western society has to offer. Most of the people from Islamic heritage that I do business with are already totally secular, and Americanized that pay more homage to the American Dollar than they do the Prophet Mohammad anyway.
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Watch and see how many European countries will become majority Islamic in 2 or more decades. It is inevitable, post christian zero religion is a vaccuum with seculars not reproducing, sunk with abortion, contraception, feminism, homosexuality... key principles post christian political leaders embrace so much for their population reduction policies.
Well, then, from an indiscriminately-reproducing, anti-abortion, oppress-the-women, homophobic point of view, Islam should be a breeze of fresh air.
...in 2003 i named my own 2nd boy "Moses Ishmael"... a Christian Name and a Muslim Name. His nickname is Mish. I figured if the Muslims win out in the future, he should go by the name Ishmael. We must be like the bamboo and bend where the wind blows.
Moses is an Egyptian or Hebrew name. According to tradition, he was named Moses by the Egyptian Pharaoh's daughter, who found him in a river, where he was placed by his mother to spare his life when it was decreed by the Pharaoh that all Hebrew first-born sons should be killed. He was a lead figure in the scriptural history of the Hebrew people in antiquity, estimated to be a few millenia before the lifetime of the lead figure of the Christian religion.
Actually, one Hebrew name and one Islamic name is better, but Abraham would have been a better match with Ishmael because they were half brothers, each one of whom was decreed by God to be a future father of a great nation. Moses' era was much later than Abraham and Ishmael, according to scriptures that contain their histories.
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You guys *think* that most muslims are as secular islamic like the Turkish model.
You bet I *think* that! I can see that in the US with my own eyes. What do you think is going to happen? will some ayatollah send a signal beamed to all the mosques around the world, telling all of "them" to rise up against "us"??? That's paranoia!! You have a good-sized Muslim population in the Philippines. Are they part of the plot?
From where I stand, it's the unwelcoming Europeans who are the problem with Islamic immigrants. We have places like that here within the US, where people try to feel better about themselves by trashing someone else. It doesn't take much to be nice to someone... geesh! I feel like I'm teaching the Golden Rule to a kindergarten child. I'm not finding fault, either - asking a country to be assimilative when they don't have practice at it is not realistic. Even new immigrants call me an American, even though my family was immigrated not long ago.
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You are optimistic that your Islamic immigrants will integrate and will become as secular muslims like the Turkish? Good luck with that. The Turkish military's principal lookout is to root out every bit of radical islam they detect.
I like polygamy and the option should be available for the secular / non religious as well. Though i do not trust government with marriage.
Muslims will always want their own set of laws based on their own religion, as such in my country muslims have their own islamic family code.
My first natural healer was a herbalist muslim woman 1st wife of 3. Great friend.
But the Muslim Autonomous provinces, are not tourist friendly, they are kidnap friendly and will charge you exorbitant fees for your "stay".
The muslim communities in Metro Manila are violence ridden, drug running, criminal ridden, domestic neighbor family feuds killing one another... you wouldn't want to walk there or live there... a definition of a no go zone.
My own driver who used to be a battle hardened soldier tried living in now muslim infested community, he could not take the cold blooded violence regularly happening there, he hurriedly moved out his family after a month trying a life there.
Poor Muslim communities in my country vs Poor Christian communities can be seen as violent vs peaceful.
Must be something really wrong with the way their islamic philippine culture has evolved. If the muslims in the autonomous regions are not fighting government soldiers, they go on family fueds killing each other.
I have a high school friend who from religious catholic converted to religious muslim and he and his family do not like living in the common Philippine muslim areas, for their own safety.
I have a female director of telenovelas friend and i asked her why there are no Filipino tele novelas about muslim families. She says the muslims are usually very violent about any error in their portrayal and they will kill you for your perceived mistakes.
My barber shop lady attendant is muslim and I asked her about telenovalas and muslims and she says it is forbidden in the Koran to have telenovelas about muslims (?) She says their religions say they should only make shows that teach the Koranic lessons.
Since I am non religious and will bend with the wind, if the muslims take over, i will gladly convert and blend in for survival.
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As GS says, the Phillipines have a big Muslim problem with insurgencies happening due to al-quaeda-affiliated groups.
As regards "assimiliation" in the US, nobody there is genuinely assimilated, it is just a bladerunner scenario of widely different unassimilated communities. I was amused once to find out just how segregated the US still is. For example, I heard of one father who disowned his son just for living in a particular street in San Francisco - turns out that was a road notoriously lived in only by homosexuals.
I also recall, during the Lebanon war that Israel initiated a few years back, that the Shia Muslim immigrants in the US(a lot around Chicago, I gather?) were all still fanatically pro-Shia as regards US foreign policy and therefore very anti-US government. No sign of assimilation there, or even of the love of money twisting peoples' former beliefs.
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Islam is the future of Sweden (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIUCa17oKF0#)
Somali woman journalist flees Somalia to live a better life in Sweden and expected Freedom and Truth in Swedish Radio. But her truth reporting only led to her persecution IN SWEDEN.
Somali woman FLEES SWEDEN and goes back to Mogadishu, Somalia because it is more dangerous for her in Sweden than it is in Somalia.
A Swedish male friend told me this censorship in Sweden is true.
Sweden - Ship of fools (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZsvdg1dkJ4#ws)
British Pat Condell:
Sweden is a ship of fools?
Canary in the coal mine for progressives.
Any Swedes here?
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Well a month ago I was speaking with a lady friend who is half British and half HK chinese and she says she used to tour Europe on foot by herself and her lady friends. She says she would not allow her daughter to do that today in 2015... it is not safe anymore...especially for women... not like before. Seems women's rights are being lost in Europe.
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The swedes have always been pacifist...... are there any real numbers that show proof that this Muslim violence is an epidemic, and not just some isolated incidence being over hyped.
Mexican immigrants are notorious drunks, rapist and petty criminals, yet it is only a small percentage of the immigrant population that is responsible for the majority of offences. To label everyone of one heritage as a potential threat, you close the good ones off from being able to integrate, and allow for the radicalization of marginal people whom would of gladly assimilate if only given the right conditions, but because they are closed off and looked on as second class citizens they begin to take on the role society cast them into. If you judge an entire group by the actions of a few you drive a wedge between any possibility of fair and equitable terms. Charles mansion was a radical extremist from Kentucky who immigrated to California and commited acts of terror, this doesn't mean that California should bar Kentuckians from immigrating there!
I agree it seems that Sweden is much to lenient on the criminal behavior of immigrants. There have been huge out crys in my state because illegal aliens would be caught driving drunk and be released without charged while locals would have the book thrown at them. Its about equity, and justice, if society makes it clear that there is equal punishment for equal crimes, and does not waver or selectively enforce, then justice will prevail and whatever trouble making militant immigrants emerge will have no way to gain a foot hold to launch their cultural war against the host nation.
Hate begets hate.....Modern Israel for example is a nation build upon hate, and feelings of entitlement(Gods Chosen People) Its a nation of immigrants established with the proceeds begotten by the funding of both sides of ww2 by the banking cabal. The immigrants used the money and power of the banking dynasties to completely displace the native inhabitants, and established a police state, where the youth are systematically indoctrinated into believing that they are surrounded by people who want to kill them.
Perhaps much of it depends on where you live in the world. I cant speak for Europa, or any other place that is an alleged haven for terror cells. The city where I live in, over 250,000 of the 400,000 thousand people where born elsewhere, many from different states and other countries. We have Universities, hospitals, and other businesses that draw in professionals, and vagrants alike from all walks of life. There are different clicks and groups that do keep to themselves and their own kind, but for the most part the community is very integrated, and there are not droves of immigrants that are planning some great cultural war to dominate the city. ( The local establishment is too strong and well armed for any of that)
So when I hear in the media of scapegoat groups being demonized as some threat to entire nations and culture values, I view it as some kind of propaganda, which gets Eco chambered and parroted through the zeitgeist, and even permeates the so called alternative media. In reality if those cultural values where truly free, and strong then they should be able to stand up to some half baked neo Islamism.
I will agree that there are heinous individuals whom use religion and cultural divides for their own self interest, and such people are born of all races religions and creed. The only way to protect people from those whom wish to exploit our ignorance for their gain is to become better educated. If school children were not conditioned by the nanny state to be such pacifist ass kissers, and were properly educated to stand up against all the pernicious forms of ignorance( foreign and domestic) then there wouldn't be any need to worry about some archaic religious delusions, destroying the cultural values of nations and peoples.
The weakness of the culture and its susceptibility to maniacal influences, may be price that the progressive nations of Europe must pay for their socialist ideals. They culled out all the gravitas and gonads from the population through Fabian socialism, in order to have nations of domesticated sheeple, and now the average person is not strong willed enough to stand up against tyranny( foreign or domestic)
I believe that there are much better methods to approach these issues than what is being played out( its all bullshit people, quit buying into it), in fact this droning in of nonsensical threats by an elitist press, and throwing money and resources at phantom menaces by our security forces, actually creates the conditions for crisis, which is then used as justification for tyrannical measures by the powers that be, that are deployed to maintain the status quo.
You do not need embargos, bombardments, closed boarders, or standing armys to combat radical ideology, all you need is the strength of communities of people united by REASON. If people were reasonable educated to think critically and not dumbed down, then they would find their own ways to preserve what they deem good about their own culture, while being progressive enough in their mentality to adopt other cultural attributes that may be of benefit to a society built upon "common sense" and not" totalitarian ideology.
All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.”
? Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason
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Sweden is the Canary in the coal mine.
I perceive many other Western European countries wishing to follow suit this Swedish suicide.
It's as if their politicians and policy makers and even their people are in some form of MIND CONTROL that tells them to self destruct.
And I think I know why.
First, here is a video of a Swedish journalist lady calling today's Sweden Absurdistan!
I am Swedish, but I live in "Absurdistan" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiodZctX2TY#ws)
Learn more about the REAL SWEDEN in her paper:
http://www.d-intl.com/2015/01/20/sweden-from-humanitarian-superpower-to-failed-state/?lang=en (http://www.d-intl.com/2015/01/20/sweden-from-humanitarian-superpower-to-failed-state/?lang=en)
Sweden: From “Humanitarian Superpower” to Failed State
by Ingrid Carlqvist & Lars Hedegaard 20 January, 2015
As Europe braces itself for new terror attacks, its political establishments face a choice: Will they finally start listening to their citizens’ growing concerns over Muslim mass immigration and the spread of political Islam, or will they dig in and try to perpetuate decades of failed multicultural policies?
Sweden, perhaps leading the way, seems to have chosen the latter. As part of the country’s so-called December Agreement, six of the eight political parties represented in parliament (Riksdagen) have simply decided to exclude the Sweden Democrats [SD] — the only party to oppose mass immigration and defend Swedish culture — from the parliamentary process.
And then here is a British who points out how the mis-education happens straight from the Universities.
Free speech on campus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XPHIfgFwsY#ws)
And this man is absolutely CORRECT! Free speech in Campus had Died. And this is why many of western european countries are now run by a generation of STUPID politicians.
I studied in the University of the Philippines during a time when free speech was taken very seriously. That students during my time in 1986 to 1993 had a plethora of ideas and points of views to listen to in our university. We had just experienced the expulsion of our dictator in 1986 and people were reveling in the idea that we could now converse freely, make speeches freely, discuss ideas freely and people would listen.
Unfortunately in Europe, beginning with Sweden, it seems they seem to have given up on freedom of exchange of ideas and decided to go into full retard censorship.
The purpose of me writing this here is that some of you may be policy makers or influential in your Western European society... please do not follow the example of Sweden.
I have fond memories of touring Europe some 3 times and I hope Europe will still be there for my children to tour safely in the future.
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The Swedes have not "always been pacifists". You are forgetting the Vikings and the time Sweden was a Baltic military superpower a few centuries ago.
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The Swedes have not "always been pacifists". You are forgetting the Vikings and the time Sweden was a Baltic military superpower a few centuries ago.
Not to split hairs or anything, but the Vikings are about as modern day Swedish as the Modern day English are Saxon. The wild frontiers of days of lore have long past and whatever culture of blood lust and war that once was a part of that regions heritage, was been bred out centuries ago.
Not hat there is anything wrong with modern cultures adopting progressive, pacifist, socialistic societies. I think many things the Swedish have been able to accomplish, such as eliminating the wealth gap and poverty, while not allowing government and corporate fascism to dominate in the way it has in America, is wonderful. Their progressive early education is a much more sane and sensible way to bring up children.
The problem seems to be that their well known peaceful, happy, well adjusted, people and high standard of living may only be possible so long as they maintain their homogony as a race and culture. If large numbers of poor, uneducated, and unwilling to assimilate peoples were to crash their boarders (like is the case in UK, USA and other western countries), then the problems of alleviating inequity, poverty, and racism may be much more difficult for
the Swedish to cope with.
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Re: 2015 Watch: Moderate Muslims in Norway Agree... Death to this and that...
DEDICATED TO THE POLITICALLY CORRECT AND FEMINIST READERS.
Sweden is obviously doomed.
"With vast parts of the Middle East and North Africa in turmoil, there is every indication that the number of asylum seekers will increase in the coming years. And as there is no sign that Sweden’s seven united parties will dismantle their open door policy, one may safely predict that Sweden’s goose will be cooked well before the December Agreement runs out in 2022. Sadly, its days as a free and democratic welfare state will be over. A population of perhaps eight million Swedes cannot accommodate and pay for perhaps four million such immigrants in eight years. It is as if the United States were to accept 150 million immigrants.
If we estimate that 80,000 asylum seekers will be granted permanent residence every year for the next eight years, we reach a figure of 640,000. As it is generally estimated that every new permanent resident from third-world countries will be followed by 2-3 family members or dependents, we are probably talking about an influx of two and a quarter million by 2022.
By that time, Sweden, which prides itself on being a “humanitarian superpower,” will have become a failed state and there is nothing the discontented can do about it except leave the country. This was precisely what the UN predicted, but subsequently, it withdrew this prognosis."
On to the video in Norway: MODERATE MUSLIMS (they refer to themselves as MODERATE)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wx8UHrSO0Y#t=214 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wx8UHrSO0Y#t=214)
Description:
Here are the self-described "Moderate Muslims" at a conference here in this country (NORWAY). Find out what they believe about the Quran commanding death to homosexuals, stoning for adultery and executing anyone who tries to leave Islam.
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Here is what I think... I think you immigrant lovers have not considered the kind of immigrants you are importing. You think these Muslim immigrants are just as "good" as your previous historical immigrants. This is where you are obviously mistaken. These immigrants you see in the video are very different from your past immigrants. They are not like your Christian immigrants, they are not like your Buddhist immigrants, they are not like your Hindu immigrants... they are far different and very dangerous.
What these immigrants think of homosexuals and what they do to homosexuals in their own country.
While the Russians merely want to block American propaganda of homosexuality to their children.
The countries these Muslim immigrants come from actually do punish homosexuals severely.
I will let Pat Condell do the explaining for you.
How gay is Islam? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLbltj-tD1Y#ws)
And as for you feminists, Pat Condell also explains how feminists COWER under Islam.
The curse of "progressive" feminism (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbmeQtGMkUU#ws)
Pro-life Philippines Catholics are aware of the folly of Feminism and Homosexuality... but their solution is to show these people love, understanding, and educate them to better ways... these Catholics are nice people. Not once did they express nor ever imply physical harm to Feminists and Homosexuals.
Non muslims destined to go to hell, British Police Go To Hell Muslim Extremists. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2nlIfn8tNA#ws)
See what has happened to Luton in UK.
Commenter said: "The hindus never do shit like this. the chinese, jews, japanese, koreans and all the other religions don't do this kind of shit... "
The bottom line is this. Pick your immigrants wisely. Choose more compatible immigrants.
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First a short introduction of how and why Islam will rule Europe by 2050.
Demographic Problem - A fifth of European Union will be Muslim by 2050 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNfn-ReNUak#)
And an article that teaches us why the decline of Christianity in Europe (Post Christianity) has an effect of leaving a vacuum where Islam takes its place. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/29/bethany-blankley-christianity-exits-europe-crimina/?page=all (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/29/bethany-blankley-christianity-exits-europe-crimina/?page=all)
I now give you Dr. Bill Warner - For all you fans of history, knowledge, digging at truth
True History Lesson here to put the problem of Islamic Jihad into proper perspective.
Why the demise of Sweden is assured, and why the problems in the UK in Luton are there and why the English Defense League and others are gaining adherents in Europe in their respective countries.
This is a very important 40 min video presentation of HISTORY most of us were not taught.
Yes this history lesson sheds light on the CRUSADES and the Dark Ages.
Why We Are Afraid, A 1400 Year Secret, by Dr Bill Warner (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y#ws)
http://youtu.be/t_Qpy0mXg8Y (http://youtu.be/t_Qpy0mXg8Y)
Now you will get a proper perspective about what this is all about because if we do not understand history, we are limited to our lifetime perspective... 75 years is not enough for you to be wise. You need thousands of years of perspective for all this to make sense.
(Here is another great presentation http://youtu.be/-YpJjRzQDIM (http://youtu.be/-YpJjRzQDIM) - "What The West Needs To Know About Islam by William J. Federer")
IF you had watched Dr. Bill Warner's presentation in full, you will understand why the ENGLISH Defense League does what it does. See their 2015 video below:
EDL Manchester Promotional Video 7th March 2015 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlWpj6oGhJY#ws)
Nightline - English Defence League Versus Muslim Extremists (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfQmt54dAEg#ws)
Very hard to watch tensions, but you need to watch because if you have seen the 1400 yr old perspective, you know this war is going to touch your lives personally, have touched our ancestors personally.
What is interesting in the last video is that the UK London Luton people are all unarmed... and the Muslim sharia promoters are boasting the USA is next... but last I know, the US populace is armed... so the action there if ever will probably be different.
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What is interesting in the last video is that the UK London Luton people are all unarmed... and the Muslim sharia promoters are boasting the USA is next... but last I know, the US populace is armed... so the action there if ever will probably be different.
ABC is just instigating shit, with propaganda pieces. That female reporter is no Muslim,
she is a media whore, and Tommy seems like a straw man, used to distract from the legitimate discussion of the problems. Though it does touch on a legitimate issue, the way it is reported is designed to instill fear and create hostility, and does nothing to help encourage people to work towards solutions.
There are many Muslims in my community, some of them are racist and two faced, some of them are Ernest and honest regular people who are a mix of qualities positive and negative . Regardless of what's in their heart, they learn to play by the rules of our society if they want to a part of the community.
Where I live, any attempt to enforce Muslim law, violently would fall on its face...... though our government may be inept in many ways, many of the people in our community are strong willed and heavily armed, and would not put up with radical extremist shit, be it Islam or the KKK. There are more guns than there are people in this state, and yet our communities are relatively much safer than many in the world where the guns are banned.
Although our law enforcement system is riddled with many injustices, at least the police state wouldn't let any act of violence against the free people of my home land, go unpunished, for any reason. It doesn't matter if you feel your God Justifies it or not, you try to attack someone in our community and see how far you get. If you don't get shot dead first, you will be hunted down like a dog and thrown in jail.
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The Hidden History of the Incredibly Evil Khazarian Mafia
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/03/08/the-hidden-history-of-the-incredibly-evil-khazarian-mafia/ (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/03/08/the-hidden-history-of-the-incredibly-evil-khazarian-mafia/)
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The Hidden History of the Incredibly Evil Khazarian Mafia
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/03/08/the-hidden-history-of-the-incredibly-evil-khazarian-mafia/ (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/03/08/the-hidden-history-of-the-incredibly-evil-khazarian-mafia/)
Very nice. Great find. Thank you. Sounded like Jim Willie though Jim points to the CIA as the secret agency not the FBI.
This piece of the puzzle fits in with the 1400 years of Islamic history and the Sumerian Zacharia Sitchin Ancient Aliens history with the beginnings of the Annunaki, royal blood lines, secret societies and all the Angel enabled establishment of all these 3 abrahamic religions... Abraham himself was a trusted right hand of the god Enlil... led to the Nuclear holocaust that was Sodom and Gomorrha. That same source veterans today linked also fingered the ancient Annunaki Babylonian god Marduk when in December 2013 world leaders converged in South Africa to pay tribute to Marduk... all the while in all the speeches the sign language translator to the left of all the speaking world leaders was signing gibberish he claimed first hand apology that he was signing to Angels at that time. Then BANG 2014 their agents started the Ukrainian civil war. Potentially leading the world into a Nuclear War which could fulfill the Georgia Guidestones wish for a cull of humanity down to 500 million.
We had witnessed the peace efforts of Merkel - Holland in Feb 2015 try to tone down the war drums with Minsk2 still holding for now. Merkel furiously refusing lethal aid to Ukraine.
If you are interested in the ancient and current aliens piece of the puzzle, PM me and i will post it on the members only thread. Most people are not ready for the heavy long history and may not have had the time yet to explore it.
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It appears the sea of de-dollarization has reached the shores of Europe. With Australia and UK having already moved in the direction of joining the China-led AIIB, The FT reports that France, Germany, and Italy have now all agreed to join the development bank as 'pivot to Asia' appears to be Plan B for Europe. As Greg Sheridan previously noted, "the saga of the China Bank is almost a textbook case of the failure of Obama’s foreign policy," but as The FT concludes, the European decisions represent a significant setback for the Obama administration, which has argued that western countries could have more influence over the workings of the new bank if they stayed together on the outside. As Forbes notes, this leaves Obama with 3 uncomfortable options...
1) Continue to press its allies not to join the AIIB until governance procedures for the bank are assured;
2) Join the AIIB itself; or
3) Drop the issue.
Option one is clearly a losing proposition. There is no sense expending further political capital trying to persuade regional and other actors not to join the bank. It is a small-potato issue that is making the United States look weak at a time when U.S. influence in the region is otherwise quite strong.
Option two, which I—along with virtually every other China analyst outside the U.S. government—supported back in October is that the United States join the AIIB. There are several reasons why this is a good idea. It would allow the United States a seat inside the tent where it could be both a positive force for best governance practices and an internal critic if things go awry. It also would likely help ensure that U.S. companies have fair access to the bidding opportunities that will arise from the AIIB’s investment financing. Joining now will be hard to accomplish in a face-saving manner, but the United States could begin by publicly recognizing the need for the financing capabilities in Asia that the AIIB can provide and by moving quickly to work with Australia, South Korea, and Japan to work out common principles of accession.
Option three is for the United States to back away from the AIIB, release other countries from any pressure they might feel from the United States not to join, and let the AIIB rise or fall on its own merits. Chinese-led resource and infrastructure investment has encountered significant difficulty in a number of countries, including Zambia, Myanmar, Vietnam, Brazil, and Sri Lanka, among others. If the AIIB does not do a better job than China’s own development banks, it will be a stain not only on Beijing but also on all the other countries that are participating. If it does operate at the same standard as the World Bank and Asian Development Bank, then it will be a welcome addition to the world of development financing. The United States does not have to be in every regional organization in the Asia Pacific; it is not in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, for example, and it is only an observer in the Conference on Interactions and Confidence-Building Measures in Asia. It can sit out the AIIB or assume observer status as well.
Washington’s priority should be on advancing U.S. ideals and institutions through the pivot or rebalance rather than blocking Chinese initiatives unless absolutely necessary. (Let’s not confuse China’s effort to develop the AIIB with its push to implement an Air Defense Identification Zone, for example.) Opposition to the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank has become a millstone around Washington’s neck. It is time to remove it one way or another.
De-dollarization continues... As Simon Black recently concluded, now we can see words are turning into action...
[The Allies] might be too polite to tell the US straight up– “Look, you have $18.1 trillion in official debt, you have $42 trillion in unfunded liabilities, and you’re kind of a dick. I’m dumping you.”
So instead they’re going with the “it’s not you, it’s me” approach.
But to anyone paying attention, it’s pretty obvious where this trend is going.
It won’t be long before other western nations jump on the anti-dollar bandwagon with action and not just words.
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Bottom line: this isn’t theory or conjecture anymore. Every shred of objective evidence suggests that the dollar’s dominance is coming to an end.
Source http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-17/plan-b-major-european-allies-desert-obama-join-china-led-infrastructure-bank (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-17/plan-b-major-european-allies-desert-obama-join-china-led-infrastructure-bank)