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Offline raw-al

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Primeval code
« on: February 12, 2014, 03:49:15 pm »
Interesting link on an old purposely buried technology discovery. GMO in reverse.

Let me know if the link is good.
https://www.nvtronics.org/~nvtronic/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=76

http://www.urzeit-code.com/
http://www.rafoeg.de/index.php/seite/10,Forschungsprojekte/80,Biologische_Experimente_mit_elektrostatischen_Feldern/10,Die_Experimente_von_Ciba_Geigy/Die_Experimente_von_Ciba_Geigy.htmlAugust%2017,%202007

Here is one of the youtubes
EBNER EFFECT

If the link is not functioning here is the thread:

"Primeval Code" - reactivated.
This is about the sensational biological discovery at the pharmaceutical giant Ciba (now Novartis), which unfortunately has been ignored by the experts up to the present day. In laboratory experiments the researchers there Dr. Guido Ebner and Heinz Schürch exposed cereal seeds and fish eggs to an "electrostatic field" in other words, to a high voltage field, in which no current flows.
Unexpectedly primeval organisms grew out of these seeds and eggs: a fern that no botanist was able to identify; primeval corn with up to twelve ears per stalk; wheat that was ready to be harvested in just four to six weeks. And giant trout, extinct in Europe for 130 years, with so-called salmon hooks. It was as if these organisms accessed their own genetic memories on command in the electric field, a phenomenon, which the English biochemist, Rupert Sheldrake, for instance believes is possible.

The Swiss pharmaceutical group patented the process and then stopped the research in 1992. Why? Because "primeval cereals" generated by an electric field, in contrast to modern strains of seeds, require hardly any fertilizers or pesticides i.e. crop protection agents, sold as priority products by Ciba at that time. The discovery was soon forgotten, without the global scientific community taking any notice.

In collaboration with the researchers involved or rather their sons, in this book, the author has for the first time now disclosed in detail how the principle of this revolutionary bio-experiment works. Previously unpublished research reports, 64 exclusive photos, English-language patent specifications and interviews document the "Primeval Code" in all its aspects.

Nevertheless many scientists who think along conventional lines may remain sceptical about this inexplicable biological effect. But now for the first time, renowned German expert botanists such as Professor Edgar Wagner of the University of Freiburg and Professor Gunter Rothe from the University of Mainz make positive statements about it in the book. Rothe even had replicated the Ciba experiments in detail at his university in 2001 and was successful. And also for the first time, even a Nobel laureate the world-famous Swiss microbiologist Werner Arber is taking up the cudgels for this controversial discovery. Back then, Arber had given an expert opinion on the Ciba experiments in person in the laboratory. The professor said to the author: "I was impressed!"

Indeed, Guido Ebner and Heinz Schürch appear to have discovered a biological method of effectively creating antecedents from progeny without using genetic engineering. Or as both researchers put it: "Our experiments do not involve a mutation of the organism in question, which in the case of genetic engineering involves channeling an additional gene into the organism. No entirely new organism is created. In the electrostatic field, only the gene expression is altered the retrieval of the existing gene. That is something different."

In addition to corn and trout experiments, the results of experiments with wheat were also amazing: thus the cereal exposed to the electrostatic field developed new proteins, which people looked for in the original wheat to no avail. Furthermore, it surprisingly produced much larger roots than the control group. This had the advantage of allowing the crops to grow far more rapidly. And occasionally in these experiments, a variant emerged which resembled the genetic antecedents of the wheat. Thus, a meadow grass-like arrangement of ear shoots and small narrow leaves was observed, for example.

"In the case of our 'manipulated' wheat, growth was so rapid that it was ripe in four weeks instead of the usual seven months", Heinz Schürch recalled. "However one has to say that although the ears and stalks were somewhat smaller, there were more ears per plant. The actual benefit is that we could cultivate this wheat in regions where spring and summer are short where conventional wheat cannot be grown at all." In this case, one can also cheerfully refrain from using pesticides and herbicides: "The pests that have adapted to the growth process of normal wheat have not yet developed when we harvest our wheat as early as four to eight weeks after planting."

The Third World in particular could benefit from this method of cultivation that is both environmentally friendly and inexpensive. For "primeval cereals" from an electric field yield more than modern genetically engineered varieties and do not require fertilizers. Furthermore, it is completely natural and thus healthier. It can be grown by anybody at minimal cost.

After Guido Ebner and Heinz Schürch both passed away unexpectedly in 2001, their experiments were continued by Guido Ebner's son, Daniel himself a biologist – on a private basis. He now wants to export this electric field technology to Africa as soon as possible, as part of an aid project, with the assistance of the former assistant to the UN Food Representative, Professor Jean Ziegler, in order to make it available to local farmers free of charge, as an ecological alternative to the controversial genetically engineered seeds of the international agro-multinationals.
http://www.urzeit-code.com/
http://www.rafoeg.de/index.php/seite/10,Forschungsprojekte/80,Biologische_Experimente_mit_elektrostatischen_Feldern/10,Die_Experimente_von_Ciba_Geigy/Die_Experimente_von_Ciba_Geigy.htmlAugust%2017,%202007

A statement from the press office of Ciba

The investigative body of the fish Confederation in Berne described the animals as an archetype of the trout, which was about 150 years ago practically extinct. There is no scientific explanation, it is not until today. Neither the trout, even in plants. Also a scientific sensation!
Over again, as in plants, a conflict of interest with Ciba-Geigy. The sale of drugs for the fish part of the business. The trout, however, need not, therefore, no business.

European Patent Office in Munich. Three years ago the Swiss announced a patent on their invention. Patent applicant is Ciba-Geigy, the inventor, the guests from the show, Kurt Felix, Guido Ebner and Heinz Schürch. The patent specification states:

"The present invention relates to a novel process which leads to permanent useful and desirable properties in fish that would otherwise not at all or only with considerable additional costs are generated.
The simplicity of the process measures learns the rearing of freshwater and saltwater fish, a drastic improvement.
The first thing you'll notice a significantly higher hatching rate, which often occurs an increase of 100 to 300 percent.
Quite significant is their extremely high survival rate. This becomes more evident if one does without any drug treatment.
In addition, the treated fish, with the same diet, increase much more rapidly in weight and size and for sale as food fish available. Unbeatable ... properties, unimagined possibilities".
The Swiss chemical giant is doing what he does, he stopped the research. The patent now rests in the drawers of the European Patent Office and its imitation is prohibited.
After the financial report Ciba-Geigy is the world leader in crop protection, their sales rising every year. No experiments? Trout "blue" as usual?
In the annual report of the entity:
"The business activities of Ciba Geigy's long-term livelihood oriented towards."

From the press office, it was then:
"Ciba has given up by now all these studies, there have been no further scientific work undertaken in this area because they can not be assigned to one of the priority research areas of the company. For this reason, the research industry in many, many interesting approaches in exploratory projects will be dropped. "

On 17/12/1988, Kurt Felix then told Swiss television on the experiment before it was discontinued.
TV presentation from 1988 - "
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Al

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Re: Primeval code
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2014, 07:45:30 pm »
If this is true it wouldn't be the first time extremely useful technology and knowledge is buried and as good as never seen from again. And each time this occurred the new technology and knowledge would have bankrupted/destroyed oil industry and "food" industry, or any massive industries/corporations. For example, successful electric cars have been invented many times, and each time the technology is buried and kept away from public (one such occurrence - re-invention - was in Finland, if I remember correctly; and I read from somewhere years back that first car engines were electric). Everything is opted to making more money (which is translated into power via ignorance of the people) for the "rulers" without paying attention to true consequences, as a result the whole humanity suffers.

I've heard/read stories about Nicola Tesla, or whoever it was, coming up with a way of transmitting electricity with no wires (which was again (re-)invented just several years ago...)? And that it never was made real. We still use mostly wires, just wondering if it was true and if so then would that generated wireless field as well had been with no current? And some years ago there moved stories that cellphones could be recharged using the same waves/field that come from cellphone towers...

Ain't life on Earth just wonderful?

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Re: Primeval code
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2014, 08:03:04 pm »
"Ciba has given up by now all these studies, there have been no further scientific work undertaken in this area because they can not be assigned to one of the priority research areas of the company. For this reason, the research industry in many, many interesting approaches in exploratory projects will be dropped. "
Doesn't take even quarter of a brain cell to realize this is total grain-fed bullshit. If a discovery like this is made the company's priority research will change, or will be made a new team of researchers who continue in the discovery's direction either by the same company or some other.

And "patenting"... well...
"I developed a new way of moving my arm, I'll patent it. Anyone who moves his/her arm the same way I will sue and dry 'em of all they got!" This is what patenting is.

The only reason, if it is true, it wasn't continued is that they were payed off or threatened by those with lots and lots of money to avoid themselves from going bankrupt and losing all their idiotic obsessions dictate.

 

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