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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => Health => Topic started by: Dwight on June 09, 2010, 01:41:08 pm
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Been bleeding since yesterday. Stopped, but when brushing, the bleeding came again.. What's wrong? :(
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Been bleeding since yesterday. Stopped, but when brushing, the bleeding came again.. What's wrong? :(
I always bleed when I brush my teeth.
This is why I switched to oil pulling, then wiping with a towel.
I'm just not built for the tooth brushing paradigm.
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Oil pulling? I wanna try!
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I always bleed when I brush my teeth.
This is why I switched to oil pulling, then wiping with a towel.
I'm just not built for the tooth brushing paradigm.
I believe when the gums bleed when brushing, something is missing, or you have not reached optimal health.
Gums should not bleed.
My gums bleeded sometimes when still eating fruits (even if oilpulling).
Now they bleed no more, even if flossing and brushing. Now I eat only animals(inkl. organs) and wild edibles. No fruits at all.
Inger
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Hi, I am curious, what is oil pulling?
Love and Light, Rayne
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Hi Rayne, :)
hier;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_pulling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_pulling)
Inger
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In Ayurveda it is part of the daily routine. Sesame is one of the best anti-bacterial anti-fungal etc of the light seed oils. Use high quality sesame, not the cooking oil stuff that is very dark and odoriferous.
It coats the mouth, gums etc and lubricates the teeth.
6 drops of oil is all that's necessary and you just gargle it.
While you are at it massage yourself with it, head to toe every morning paying special attention to your head, ears, soles of the feet and toes.
Use sesame oil if you tend towards feeling cool, olive oil if you tend to notice (uncomfortable) in heat and coconut if it is summer and you dislike heat.
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Hi Rayne, :)
hier;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_pulling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_pulling)
Inger
Hi Inger, thanks for the link!
Love and Light, Rayne
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My gums are still bleeding. Even with the slightest brush. Is it gingivitis?
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Fruit can be a source of problems. Describe your diet?
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I am not familiar with things such as oil pulling but I don't think you need anything fancy. The problem is simple, the gums are deteriorating from nutrient deficiency. Diets too high in muscle meat and low in organ meats usually cause this. More organ meats - particularly liver. Perhaps green vegetables too.
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the gums are deteriorating from nutrient deficiency
do you know which nutrient is deficient? or is it just general suspicion of some kind deficiency?
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do you know which nutrient is deficient?
Specifically? No.
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I have never consumed raw liver before. I have yet to find it.
My diet? Carbs. It's been quite awhile since I got any fats into my diet. I'm searching around for sources because currently, I can only get like say, out of 300g of a brisket, i can only get like 50 - 75g of fat. They would not sell additional fat. I told them i wanted additional fat, they just gave me a larger cut which is pretty much the same.
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I have never consumed raw liver before. I have yet to find it.
My diet? Carbs. It's been quite awhile since I got any fats into my diet. I'm searching around for sources because currently, I can only get like say, out of 300g of a brisket, i can only get like 50 - 75g of fat. They would not sell additional fat. I told them i wanted additional fat, they just gave me a larger cut which is pretty much the same.
Surprising, since (grainfed) liver is found in nearly every supermarket in Australia (though grainfed is fine if that's all that one can get). I questioned a farmer about the lack of grass fed organs available in Australia and they replied that there is big demand in Asian countries for Australian livestock organs - apparently Singapore is not one of those countries. Without liver I'm not sure what to recommend. What is your carb source? Fruit or rice?
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Rice. Gums are still bleeding. I guess the wet market is the only option I have left. Not sure how much fats/meats/organs I should buy for a week's supply though.
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in the meantime you should try to replace rice with raw fruits and green vegetables.
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more than likely you have pockets where bacteria are thriving. Try having your teeth/pockets cleaned by a hygenist and cut down on sugars rinsing your mouth with either warm water or diluted salt water after every meal. Floss too.
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I have never consumed raw liver before. I have yet to find it.
My diet? Carbs. It's been quite awhile since I got any fats into my diet. I'm searching around for sources because currently, I can only get like say, out of 300g of a brisket, i can only get like 50 - 75g of fat. They would not sell additional fat. I told them i wanted additional fat, they just gave me a larger cut which is pretty much the same.
IF animal fat sourcing is a problem you may have to find alternatives.
Indian GHEE, extra virgin olive oil are what I can think of now.
Egg yolks.
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I have never consumed raw liver before. I have yet to find it.
My diet? Carbs. It's been quite awhile since I got any fats into my diet. I'm searching around for sources because currently, I can only get like say, out of 300g of a brisket, i can only get like 50 - 75g of fat. They would not sell additional fat. I told them i wanted additional fat, they just gave me a larger cut which is pretty much the same.
What's wrong with that? Get two brisket's !? It's not hard to do RPD if you really wanted to do it. Pretty lies to yourself.
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I have never consumed raw liver before. I have yet to find it.
My diet? Carbs. It's been quite awhile since I got any fats into my diet. I'm searching around for sources because currently, I can only get like say, out of 300g of a brisket, i can only get like 50 - 75g of fat. They would not sell additional fat. I told them i wanted additional fat, they just gave me a larger cut which is pretty much the same.
WTF is wrong with 50-75g fat in a 300g brisket? Because all palaeo animals were morbidly obese?
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If you're not already watching your omega-3/omega-6 intake, you might want to try drinking some flaxseed oil.
Here's a few anecdotes from people that had their gum bleeding stop after a week or so of 2 tablespoons/day of flaxseed oil.
http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2007/07/06/omega-3-and-dental-health-surgery-commuted/
http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2007/11/16/omega-3-what-happens-when-you-stop/
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Fish oil would be better?
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they both oxidize almost overnight
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# Chewing raw watercress leaves can cure bleeding gums.
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What's wrong with that? Get two brisket's !? It's not hard to do RPD if you really wanted to do it. Pretty lies to yourself.
I really want to do RPD. Just really mixed up about issues concerning factors like amount of fat, nutrients, e.t.c stuff like that. Intake of organs.. And what about the amount of fat? 300g brisket, only 50-70g of fat on that so two briskets weighing at 600g would be 100g-140g of fats. If that's case, is it possible to get by with more red meat than fats?
The dentist said those are diseased gums, told me not to eat any uncooked food like sashimi because I did tell him I was consuming sashimi regularly. He said that about once or twice a month of sashimi is enough. You know, I'm pretty much gonna keep my mouth shut about RPD towards everyone.
I'm just gonna do RPD my way with some basic knowledge gained here. Thanks. Will report back soon. I hope.
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Hi Dwight,
don't do it complicated to your self!
No need to measure etc.
Just eat when hungry, if for fattier meat, then eat it, if for less fat, then that.
Liver I try to get kind of 100-300 grams / week, that really gives a boost.
Organs you do not need much of, they are also only a small part of the animal. And eat what grows around you!
Wild berries, wild edibles (not the poisonous, for sure ;)).. fish.. what ever you get in good quality (better wild caught).
It really is easy! :)
Look, we always have different needs, so go after how you feel, listen to your body. ;)
Inger
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Stephan Guyenet has posted lots of good info on the effects of foods (especially those rich in the nutrients A, D3 and K2) on dental and oral health. See http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/04/dental-anecdotes.html for anecdotal evidence of people's dental improvements after applying this knowledge. For example: "Dr. Dan: Before paleo I had bleeding gums and sore teeth. Now that I have been on it I have not had them and my flatmate just commented how white my teeth are looking."
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You know, I'm pretty much gonna keep my mouth shut about RPD towards everyone.
I'm just gonna do RPD my way with some basic knowledge gained here. Thanks. Will report back soon. I hope.
That is always the best policy. My girlfriend and I tried sungazing, it worked well and when she got her eyes tested she said not a word to the puzzled eye doctor who the previous year had predicted surgery would be necessary. Mums the word.
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I just cured my bleeding gums using hydrogen peroxide 3%.Took about 10 days of daily use.Just dip your toothbrush in HP3% and then let it sit on your gumline for about a minute.Let it penetrate below the gumline.It will foam up and kill the bacteria inside the gums.Cheap and more effective than going to a dental hygenist.It works!!
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i almost cure my bleeding gum (98%) by one night just doing the nude sun bathing after taking staight 5 months in raw paleo diet. nothing helps me accept sunbathing. :D
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5g of vitamin c a day should really help bleeding gums according to one of my contacts.
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i almost cure my bleeding gum (98%) by one night just doing the nude sun bathing after taking staight 5 months in raw paleo diet. nothing helps me accept sunbathing. :D
You had a sunbath at night? :o l)
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5g of vitamin c a day should really help bleeding gums according to one of my contacts.
I don't know about bleeding gums, but 5 g of c/day just gave me ugly smelling gas. Do you mean in the form of fruit or whale blubber? How do you like the forum so far?
You had a sunbath at night? :o l)
Lol I understood raw to mean one day of sun bathing, slept that night and woke up with healed gums.
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I don't know about bleeding gums, but 5 g of c/day just gave me ugly smelling gas. Do you mean in the form of fruit or whale blubber? How do you like the forum so far?
Correction: he actually recommended taking 6g of vit c with bioflavanoids (in tablet form I presume). I wouldn't recommend most people do this but if you have bleeding gums it's worth a shot. More than 1g of vitamin c and I my eyes go quite bloodshot.
I feel really fortunate to have stumbled across this forum. A wealth of info on here; it's helping to give me something to do in my two week break from work. Good to see you on here, Rawzi. :)
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I used to have this problem. When my gums were bleeding constantly, I was told that it was because my iron was low. It still happens from time to time depending on my cycle and what I've been eating.
I don't own a toothbrush, and I haven't consistently brushed my teeth in over 10 years. I don't have a single cavity, nor do I have any other dental problems. No stinky breath, and shiny white teeth. I truly believe that dental issues are caused by eating "white man's food" as my dad puts it.
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I didn't read the posts in this thread. Bleeding gums can be caused by, but not limited to, vitamin c or/and d deficiency. Get more sunlight and/or get more vitamin d in your diet. Vitamin c, well if fruits cause you a problem, vegetables can be a potent source of vitamin c also. I've heard organ meats have vitamin c too.
Try rubbing the juice of pomegranate fruit on your gums. I heard that stuff stops bleeding gums and tightens it. They put that stuff(pomegranate seed) in herbal toothpaste.
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Vitamin c, well if fruits cause you a problem
Wild Rosa Canina fruis are perfect - about 2 g of vitamin C in 100 g!
Blackcurrants are quite good - 170 mg in 100 g.
I've heard organ meats have vitamin c too.
Veal thumus, especially - 50 mg in 100 g.