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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => Health => Topic started by: wodgina on February 16, 2012, 06:51:32 pm
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I use glycerine now and my cracked heels are a thousand times better. Glycerine actually pulls moisture out of your skin.
My heels would crack and bleed my whole life, nothing worked not even zero carb. I would sand paper them down and they would crack and bleed half a day later. Now they are soft and I can wear flip flops without bandaging up my heels what a relief.
Not very paleo but hey
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I should add don't get the glycerine anywhere else or it will dry your skin out (like your hands)
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Where do you get the glycerine?
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Supermarket.
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/12/031203075525.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/12/031203075525.htm)
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This is awesome. Will look for experimenters.
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How r ur vitamin c and d levels?
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I have found that vit D is good for these kinds of skin problems.
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How r ur vitamin c and d levels?
I have found that vit D is good for these kinds of skin problems.
I eat raw meat and organs. Spend a lot of time in the sun and don't use soap.
As I said in my post above clearly, I tried everything. Massive obsession here with vitamins.
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i'm so glad you posted this, i'm going to try this on my heels too!
processed, but it's not too far off paleo.. it's just extracted vegetable source fat i think.
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I always get cracked heels if I have my feet open to the air for long periods. If I wear socks or slippers, I never get cracked heels at all. I am surprised that this could happen with bare feet.
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I eat raw meat and organs. Spend a lot of time in the sun and don't use soap.
As I said in my post above clearly, I tried everything. Massive obsession here with vitamins.
Hmmm...I still think trying a vit D supplement is worth a shot. If it doesn't help in the first 3-4 days, it won't help it at all, probably.
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I live in a rather dry climate. Bare heels take a beating, and I, too, prefer to keep my feet covered with "barefoot" footwear so that my heels don't crack. Also, I've been going to a Korean spa to soak and exfoliate (with an Italy towel, which is a viscose scrubbing cloth that they use at the spa) every week. Tons of dead skin come off, including extra foot calluses. I think soak and scrub is better than belt sander. (Okay, I know you didn't say belt sander, but some guys do use one on their heels.)
This thread makes me think of all the Judeo-Christian scriptural references to bathing and oiling (anointing) feet. Glycerin soaks in better. Oil makes feet all slippery.
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I do an oil massage daily and I start with the feet. I suspect that a vigorous massage of the feet might be a good idea to try. Really dig in to get the circulation going. Twist the soles and tug outward on the toes. Various light vegetable oils can be used, depending on your body type.
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Hmmm...I still think trying a vit D supplement is worth a shot. If it doesn't help in the first 3-4 days, it won't help it at all, probably.
I eat liver, spend time in the sun, don't use soap or have hot showers.
I've wasted money on supplements in the past. I can't see how what I do is not better than supplements.
Evehart, Rawal give glycerine a shot. I actually don't think its a moisturising problem? maybe glycerine kills fungus or has an effect on skin cell growth.
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I don't have the issue. I just do this regularly and have for about 25 years.
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I've got high humidity here in my country.
Is dry cracked heels a problem only in countries with low humidity?
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My feet are sweaty all the time (including heel area) whether it's humid or dry. I think they are too moist and it's a fungal issue. The glycerine might kill the fungus or act on the skin cells.
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Just a thought, sesame oil is the best anti-fungal, anti-bacterial of the light vegetable oils.
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I don't know if it would work in the dry cold, but it its wet cold here and my heals are still great. I used to have cracks so bad they would break open. I started barefoot running and living and they are smooth now. I used a pumice stone when i would come inside to get some of it. I'm sure it's d/t increased circulation. I still go out bare and walk around the house barefoot. I wear socks if I want, but no shoes. When I do wear shoes I go minimalist. You can buy canvas minimalist karate sneakers on amazon for less than $20. I use all sorts of oils and Shea butter, b/c my skin is always dry, but it doesn't crack and the soles of my feet are very think, but living and healthy. I started out at 5 mins outside/day and increased every week. Now that it is cold I go till they get numb, 2-3 min, and come right back. I think my circulation continues to improve. When they are dirty I scrub with water and a brush or pumice, but the skin doesn't get as dirty b/c there are no cracks.
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I eat liver, spend time in the sun, don't use soap or have hot showers.
I've wasted money on supplements in the past. I can't see how what I do is not better than supplements.
Evehart, Rawal give glycerine a shot. I actually don't think its a moisturising problem? maybe glycerine kills fungus or has an effect on skin cell growth.
Being in the sun doesn't work very well for me. I either don't produce much vit D in the sun, or don't use it well, because I have to pretty much get a sunburn to get the same effect as just taking a vit D softgel. You might not get any effect though. It's worth a shot, though. A container of 180 Now brand softgels is $8 or $10.
I noticed that my tendency to form calluses stopped when I went raw. At that time I was eating a lot of fruits/veggies. I'd try the vit D before increasing fruits/veggies.
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i'm so glad you posted this, i'm going to try this on my heels too!
processed, but it's not too far off paleo.. it's just extracted vegetable source fat i think.
My heels still haven't cracked and are healing. There is some skin build up but it is soft.
I actually had a bit of pain for the the first few weeks where the heel used to crack. It felt like the glycerine was doing something? I also had some pain in some parts of my hands from applying it but that's gone too.
I've started to drink it, in the mice model it said glycerine worked just as well internally as externally. Tastes good.
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Good luck with the glycerine. Keep us updated.
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There are some miracle stories on the net with photos from psoriasis sufferers. Quite amazing, it normalised the skin development stages. Also it can be used for glaucoma (taken internally) and anxiety (if taken internally) and endurance athletes.
There's no money to be made from glycerine so it's fallen out of favour.
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weird i used to have cracked heels when i was eating worse, showering more(which really wasnt all that often, maybe 2-3 times a week is the max ever in my life!), didnt have enough fat in my diet and didnt change out of sweaty socks prob made it worse. now i dont do anything for my feet, usually forget to even get what little dr. bronners i use down there and they are pretty nice. i think what most helped was extra fats and proper hydration
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There are some miracle stories on the net with photos from psoriasis sufferers. Quite amazing, it normalised the skin development stages. Also it can be used for glaucoma (taken internally) and anxiety (if taken internally) and endurance athletes.
There's no money to be made from glycerine so it's fallen out of favour.
Fascinating. I might have to try that on my scalp. I get dandruff pretty badly.
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I'm in love with Glycerine at the moment. I tried it by accident.
I've actually felt more rational and calm after drinking it? I'm talking to people more and less judgemental. I understand everone struggles. I don't know if I'm imagining this but after reporting this on a another forum someone else mentioned a similar experience.
I was definitely deficient, as my heels cleared up in weeks. Glycerine or glycerol makes up 10% of animal fat. I think stressed people use glycerol faster for energy 'fight or flight'.
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What type are you using? Animal or plant glycerine? I have some plant glycerine.
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What dosage are you taking internally?
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Doesn't say on mine but I'm pretty sure it's a vegetable based.
3 tablespoons a day at the moment. It tastes like cane juice. I mix with water and ice cubes. Just read it can also be used internally for brain edema.
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Glycerine tends to be made from heated and refined corn (http://www.crowniron.com/userImages/glycerin_refining.pdf, (http://www.crowniron.com/userImages/glycerin_refining.pdf,) http://www.auri.org/agnews/AURI07-07.pdf (http://www.auri.org/agnews/AURI07-07.pdf)). The human subcutaneous layer is largely composed of saturated and monounsaturated fats (raw, of course, unless you've been baking in the sun ;) ). Do you consume a lot of raw pasture-fed/wild animal fats or wild seafood fats?
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I'm pretty sure it's an alcohol not a fat.
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I'm pretty sure it's an alcohol not a fat.
Maybe you lack carbs?
Is this why glycerine works for you when you drink it?
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I've had it over 25 years so definitely not. I was carb crazy. I also tried carbs and raw paleo.
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I'm pretty sure it's an alcohol not a fat.
Yes, sorry, I was confusing it with something else. My guess is that heated and refined sugar alcohol may not be that good, but if it's only used externally, there may not be enough absorbed to matter much. I'm also thinking that animal fats would be more similar to human skin and thus perhaps more beneficial.
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But do you drink a lot of water with it? From what I know that stuff is like powerful sponge.. until it gets metabolized in the liver I guess.
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Interesting, I haven't heard of that before and I don't notice any difference whether I drink water with it or not. I just notice that when I eat plenty of raw animal fat and not too much fruit or other carbs except raw fermented honey, my skin is better hydrated, less flakes, etc. It's not suprising, because fat of other mamals is similar to our own subcutaneous fat (and we are mammals too), and the microbiota in the RF honey may help kill off flake-causing fungus in me or something.
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PaleoPhil, sorry my post was ambiguous.. I was wondering about the glycerin (@wodgina).
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No prob.
If heated and refined glycerine sugar alcohols are superior to raw animal fats for all, then that would seem to be a major blow to raw Paleo. Somehow I'm skeptical of that.
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Let's see what happens I will try only internal use of Glycerine.
but who knows what nasties are used in the refining processes?
Having cracked heels really reduced my quality of life especially living in a hot place where people don't wear shoes. Let's see how I go.
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Glycerin is a part of tryglicerides (1 molecule glycerol + 3 molecules of fatty acids), which are part of all fats. It's like 10% of fats (shorter-chain ones have a higher percentage, the longer chain fats have less), so with 100g of fats you already get 10g of glycerol..
In the liver it gets converted to glucose. Basically it's a sugar like glucose, fructose, etc.
Maybe you lack carbs?
Is this why glycerine works for you when you drink it?
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Glycerin is a part of tryglicerides (1 molecule glycerol + 3 molecules of fatty acids), which are part of all fats. It's like 10% of fats (shorter-chain ones have a higher percentage, the longer chain fats have less), so with 100g of fats you already get 10g of glycerol..
In the liver it gets converted to glucose. Basically it's a sugar like glucose, fructose, etc.
Weird how eating lots of fats never helped my heels that much.
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So actually eating glycerin has helped the cracked heels? Now that's weird. I thought putting glycerin on the skin is what helped, as it attracts moisture it keeps them from drying.
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Nah it's been applying glycerin to skin what has done it so far.
It's nothing to do with moisure but helping normal skin grow from the lower levels. That's what glycerin mediates.
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The two foods that have helped my dry, flaky skin the most are raw suet and raw fermented honey. Paradoxical on the surface, but it does make some sense in retrospect. Suet contains saturated and monounsaturated animal fats, which form a large part of the subcutaneous layer of human beings, as well as our own kidney fat--which is not surprising, since we are also animals. Raw fermented honey contains beneficial microbiota that might theoretically kill off flake-causing candida and/or help me process carbs (such as in the honey they feed on).
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soft new pink skin has pretty much replaced the old skin thick skin that I had on my feet for years.
I kept up with external use on my feet. I missed maybe a week near the start and I think you can't do that, it sets you back a fair bit.
The skin on my face was getting better but I missed quite a few days and had to start again. Anyone thinking over trying this I would say apply at least once a day and let it soak in. It takes a few month to fully heal. Works really well for calluses,cracked skin and psoriasis.
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Phil, where do you get your fermented honey from, thanks
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Really Raw (a source recommend by both Aajonus and the WAPF and my favorite tasting honey and the only one so far that provides me with health benefits, for whatever reason, and I've tried many--including most of the ones that have been recommended in this forum).
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Great, thanks, I use their honey too.