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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => Off Topic => Topic started by: the PresiDenT on October 21, 2010, 06:00:17 am
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one word answer is fine. just deciding i dont want a desk job and got me curious what u guys do. i m a student/charismatic paleo educator :D
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I work with a computer, I am a graphics and web designer and IT project coordinator, working full time for one company and having my own clients on the side.
Before this I was a bartender in a busy place, that was a nice job too as I was always running around doing stuff.
However I only work from home now, so while I am at a desk I am usually sitting on a large chair in crouching position and I often get up off the chair to do some push-ups, go for a jog etc. It also allows me to enjoy raw meats without coworkers staring at me which is nice. In the summer I often take my laptop outside and work on my outdoor patio in the sun. 8)
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I do architecture, as a project manager and I am not inclined to pursue the paper to call myself an architect, with a company that specializes in the healthcare field. I'm usually in the office 3 days or so a week and at job sites 2 days a week. Lots of thinking, particularly spatially, which keeps me focused and not bored. :)
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vagabond/student/hunter gatherer
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I work as an electrician.(for money}
I offer my services as a renegade scholar and pillar of the community
free of charge.
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Immigration Law Paralegal.
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Student/Tennis Player
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I work with a computer, I am a graphics and web designer and IT project coordinator, working full time for one company and having my own clients on the side.
Before this I was a bartender in a busy place, that was a nice job too as I was always running around doing stuff.
However I only work from home now, so while I am at a desk I am usually sitting on a large chair in crouching position and I often get up off the chair to do some push-ups, go for a jog etc. It also allows me to enjoy raw meats without coworkers staring at me which is nice. In the summer I often take my laptop outside and work on my outdoor patio in the sun. 8)
thats awesome. i excell in graphic design, but i wanna have my own buisness some day, i have already run my own buisness (sellin chron) and like how you benefit directly off your own honesty and hard work, and you represent yourself. i wanna get some degree and my parents do to, so buisness in Calgary 2011.
did u go to school or nething like that 4 ur job
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Student/Tennis Player
how is your clay game? i play quite a bit at a high level, i struggle with the clutch points which has kept me behind, but i can keep up in rallies with the best and give them good games. but once i get to 40-30 i fold and lose in deuce :S happens way to much
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thats awesome. i excell in graphic design, but i wanna have my own buisness some day, i have already run my own buisness (sellin chron) and like how you benefit directly off your own honesty and hard work, and you represent yourself. i wanna get some degree and my parents do to, so buisness in Calgary 2011.
did u go to school or nething like that 4 ur job
Chron?
Chronic?
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Chron?
Chronic?
Ya, not really big time, but enough to live in my own/ support a preety heavy habit i had at the time. i was known as the honesty hustler, never rip anyone off as every custumer i treat like my best customer.
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Bouncer, I guess. Though I dont work enough to really call it a profession. Whenever I want to generate some income I usually Bounce at private arrangements like raves and such. It is incredibly good money for a low investment of time and energy. The downside is that it can be hazardous to your health. Especially if you work as a club/bar bouncer. But large parties like raves are fine. I dont mind people on acid and extacy (they just want to hug and tell you the great secrets of life), but the combination of alcohol and cocaine intimidates me. It turns people insane if they are just a bit...off...to begin with. Whenever I have experienced sitations where people could not be reasoned with nomatter how hard and kindly you try, that particular mix is always in on it and it mostly erupts into violence at that point. Going back to school though, a thread here inspired my to finally send for the proper papers.
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Bouncer, I guess. Though I dont work enough to really call it a profession. Whenever I want to generate some income I usually Bounce at private arrangements like raves and such. It is incredibly good money for a low investment of time and energy. The downside is that it can be hazardous to your health. Especially if you work as a club/bar bouncer. But large parties like raves are fine. I dont mind people on acid and extacy (they just want to hug and tell you the great secrets of life), but the combination of alcohol and cocaine intimidates me. It turns people insane if they are just a bit...off...to begin with. Whenever I have experienced sitations where people could not be reasoned with nomatter how hard and kindly you try, that particular mix is always in on it and it mostly erupts into violence at that point. Going back to school though, a thread here inspired my to finally send for the proper papers.
Coke makes people really sketch, and they have to be shady on that stuff becuase usually it makes u addicted slowly but surely, thus stealing and sketch lifestly. ive done TONS of different drugs, but no needles and coke i promised myself when i started.(only to find out the hospital gave me some when i got my finger got cut off. they called it "freezing lol")
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Coke makes people really sketch, and they have to be shady on that stuff becuase usually it makes u addicted slowly but surely, thus stealing and sketch lifestly. ive done TONS of different drugs, but no needles and coke i promised myself when i started.(only to find out the hospital gave me some when i got my finger got cut off. they called it "freezing lol")
If you have been put into anaesthetics there is a good change they used Ketamine ;D. It boggles my mind that people take this stuff as a source of fun. Done loads of drugs myself, but like you I never did needles and only tried coke once. Didnt like it. I am obnoxious and selfcentered enough as it is :p
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thats awesome. i excell in graphic design, but i wanna have my own buisness some day, i have already run my own buisness (sellin chron) and like how you benefit directly off your own honesty and hard work, and you represent yourself. i wanna get some degree and my parents do to, so buisness in Calgary 2011.
did u go to school or nething like that 4 ur job
If you already excel in graphics you should work with your natural talent and make it into a career, taking business on the side is an excellent idea!
I was going to CEGEP (Montreal college) 3 years then did one year in university (McGill, animal studies) but I always was teaching myself the graphics and computer stuff on my own, the artistic talent I had from when I was a toddler really, I quit university after one year to pursue my own career and its been fun so far! As long you have good portfolio, clients and companies don't usually care if you have a graphics diploma or not, they never even ask, they want to see your skills. But if you want to be your own boss in a way, knowing some business skills can be a definite asset!
Sellin' chronic eh! Nice, if my dealers disappear on me I'll make sure to give you some business LOL ;)
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Coke makes people really sketch, and they have to be shady on that stuff becuase usually it makes u addicted slowly but surely, thus stealing and sketch lifestly. ive done TONS of different drugs, but no needles and coke i promised myself when i started.(only to find out the hospital gave me some when i got my finger got cut off. they called it "freezing lol")
Not always the case, I used to do lots of coke but got bored of it a long long time ago, lol (I do know people that became addicted and that really sucks, but they had a certain personality, and certain problems that predisposed them to be addicted to it in the first place, sad really)
Now I do coke maybe twice a year, and its only with one of my girlfriends and we just hand out at her place drink and gossip a lot, fun fun
I also have tried every drug imaginable (except needles), never got addicted, I have stopped everything except weed which is not like a drug to me, its something I'll probably do the rest of my life, goes well with a creative career. I still occasionally do LSD or mushrooms (like 2-3 times a year) because they are not toxic like the chemical drugs and I always have a fun experience with them, good times O0
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Student of sociology.
I give private lessons in maths.
Future? Definitely nutritional and health specialist, life expectancy prolonging expert 8)
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Sellin' chronic eh! Nice, if my dealers disappear on me I'll make sure to give you some business LOL ;)
done that gig now, stopped hanging w all the people i used with after my world caved in. straightedge for just over a year now. paleo is the best drug i have ever come across. i have tried weed once since starting paleo, and it jsut does not give me the same desired effect. the initial halflife is good, but after u just feel like blahhhh way to much. i get burnt out mentally, but physically its the exact opposite, i can jsut keep exercising/playing sports for ever. anyone know the reason 4 that? the first halflife gets me supper pumped/agressive and i can run/bike WAYYYY faster which i find odd. its like i dont feel hte pain in my core/legs
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i have tried weed once since starting paleo, and it jsut does not give me the same desired effect. the initial halflife is good, but after u just feel like blahhhh way to much. i get burnt out mentally, but physically its the exact opposite, i can jsut keep exercising/playing sports for ever. anyone know the reason 4 that? the first halflife gets me supper pumped/agressive and i can run/bike WAYYYY faster which i find odd. its like i dont feel hte pain in my core/legs
I only smoke tiny bits at a time, I never ever roll a joint, only put a small crumb into my pipe and it equals one "puff"...
Sometimes I am hanging with friends and they roll a whole joint, after that I get tired and too stoned by it, but taking only one puff gives me the nice mental effect and absolutely no physical drawback. I always like it in small quantities only :)
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I only smoke tiny bits at a time, I never ever roll a joint, only put a small crumb into my pipe and it equals one "puff"...
Sometimes I am hanging with friends and they roll a whole joint, after that I get tired and too stoned by it, but taking only one puff gives me the nice mental effect and absolutely no physical drawback. I always like it in small quantities only :)
do u make a fuss about the kind of stuff u get (indoor/outdoor). cause if u have seen first hand some of the shit they use to accelerate plant growth in the indoor plants especially ud think twice about it. if i ever use drugs again its gotta be stuff i planted and is organic. many guys are lacing their shit w small mounts of meth and its so prevalent u can't tell if u only smoke indoor weed. outdoor gives a nicer more natural buzz i find, like a rasta body buzz, not a head high like indoor
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do u make a fuss about the kind of stuff u get (indoor/outdoor). cause if u have seen first hand some of the shit they use to accelerate plant growth in the indoor plants especially ud think twice about it. if i ever use drugs again its gotta be stuff i planted and is organic. many guys are lacing their shit w small mounts of meth and its so prevalent u can't tell if u only smoke indoor weed. outdoor gives a nicer more natural buzz i find, like a rasta body buzz, not a head high like indoor
I have had nice outdoor, shitty outdoor, and vice versa, nice and shitty indoor, you can actually grow some nice indoor stuff without the use of meth or anything like that. I myself used to grow stuff indoors so I know how the process is ;)
People I get it from are all friends and I have known for a long time, two of them has 100% organic stuff grown outside, there is quite a lot of outdoor growing going on around Ontario, Quebec etc. I don't like pure sativa or pure indica types, I prefer a nice hybrid actually...
PS.. (I was just kidding to you when I said about "giving you business" in my previous post, I just like to kid around) O0
... I think this thread is supposed to be about jobs and we hijacked it >< sorry guys, back to jobs ha ha ...
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Self-employed musician.
Guitar is my primary weapon. I teach, record, compose, perform, blah, blah, blah....just living the dream, baby!
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I am an inventor/scientist/businessman.
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as of last week, promoted to 'Scientist'.
I can see myself as a business owner in the not to distant future.
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I work with...
a nine(almost ten!!!) year old diagnosed with high functioning autism.
and a day care center for children up to the age of five.
and sitting for friends occasionally in exchange for extra green papers
The majority of adults either infuriate me or make me feel depressed, so I try to avoid them as often as possible ;)
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as of last week, promoted to 'Scientist'.
Congrats!
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I’m a “qualified” oenologist… who never practiced that job and forgot about all about it, thus totally incompetent. Became a truck driver, truck owner, truck driver again. Traveled a lot with trucks and otherwise: in 1976-77 I loaded in England for Baghdad, Bassorah or Kuwait City, back to England with 20 tons (total gross weight in England limited at 32 tons at the time… well I was in overload there because 15 t empty plus 20 t = 35 t) of hazelnuts loaded at Ordu (Turkey) on the Black Sea coast. (Never ate a single hazelnut from my load because cheese was easier and faster eaten!). Went also to Ukraine, at the time part of Soviet Union and to all European countries except Poland, Czechoslovakia and Norway. Lived a few years in Sri Lanka, jobless but coming back to Switzerland in summer to drive bloody fuel tank trucks.
Actually automotive technical writer, working at home.
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Actor in China.TV,commercials,films...etc. (Sorry the pic is so huge....don't know how to shrink it)
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Done. Photoshop : Image > size > width (750 px for example) > File > Save for web > adjust ko (less than 100 ko are enough for the web).
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Corporate pilot.
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I work with...
a nine(almost ten!!!) year old diagnosed with high functioning autism.
and a day care center for children up to the age of five.
and sitting for friends occasionally in exchange for extra green papers
The majority of adults either infuriate me or make me feel depressed, so I try to avoid them as often as possible ;)
same here. i feel bad tho cause they dont realize they are all pumped full of SAD, and i dont think they realize there is a problem. kids are still fresh
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same here. i feel bad tho cause they dont realize they are all pumped full of SAD, and i dont think they realize there is a problem. kids are still fresh
The problem is that so many kids are not "fresh" there is a growing population of kids that are just fucked, from the beginning, probably for the rest of their lives(if you want to call it that). Earlier this year, I couldn't handle it. I was breaking down on my off time, and ended up taking a few months off. The depression this produced played a big part in driving me to try things like... eating raw flesh. Now I am more focused and feel as if I am getting much more done, but I can only do so much for kids running on canned soup and birdfeed.
We are truly blessed. Some humans, from birth to the grave, will never be independent. Nor will they ever understand why.
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Another stress filled day at the office....
(http://www.skinnydevil.com/dave_female1.jpg)
This was taken Sunday at an SDML guitar student recital, and is me playing with one of my students.
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Nice guitars.
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The problem is that so many kids are not "fresh" there is a growing population of kids that are just fucked, from the beginning, probably for the rest of their lives(if you want to call it that). Earlier this year, I couldn't handle it. I was breaking down on my off time, and ended up taking a few months off. The depression this produced played a big part in driving me to try things like... eating raw flesh. Now I am more focused and feel as if I am getting much more done, but I can only do so much for kids running on canned soup and birdfeed.
We are truly blessed. Some humans, from birth to the grave, will never be independent. Nor will they ever understand why.
ya it makes u nuts focusing on the SAD people. i have kinda become a bit of an introvert, cause ppl dont undrestand me or a like scared of me, and i dont care to befriend many ppl my age (21) as they all just facebook and SAD fastfood, weekends are only about drinking. I think i found a cute nerdy girl that in my one class that is outside the box which is good. i am only gonna get married if the woman shares my lifestyle/beliefs of RZC.
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Computer Programmer.
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ya it makes u nuts focusing on the SAD people. i have kinda become a bit of an introvert, cause ppl dont undrestand me or a like scared of me, and i dont care to befriend many ppl my age (21) as they all just facebook and SAD fastfood, weekends are only about drinking. I think i found a cute nerdy girl that in my one class that is outside the box which is good. i am only gonna get married if the woman shares my lifestyle/beliefs of RZC.
Jack in the box and brew made from hops, seems to satisfy most. I would just say fuckem but their apathy is allowing the parasitic imbalance(tyranny) we see today. I choose to find ways to build children's self confidence, once I get a little older I plan on working up the nerve to do presentations, globally if possible. Being 20 however, it is not that easy or should I say damn near impossible, to suggest to parents how to better do their job. Even if I have grown up in a daycare observing children my whole life.
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I have embraced a spiritual/worldly existentialism that allows me to stay grounded while exploring the sublime of possibilities, and my true calling has turned from being a nihilist misanthrope into a visionary who uses the depths mind to envision a better way of life. I will use that vision as a template by which I raise my children and interact with the world. I have been hurt by the awareness of whats happening amongst the general population and I make it my duty to not allow my children to be damaged and made weak in the ways I have seen countless others culled. So far so good My three children have huge round heads, and are wonderfully constituted and are being guided in ways which I will hope cultivate an open spirit and powerfull mind. My fourth child is due in march and will give me a total of, One son and three daughter, (Aldous ,Madelynn, Charlotte, and Amilia). My woman is a cute nerdy girl that wanted to have a family and I was drawn to her after seeing her just once , and when her brother said offhandedly I think she wants a baby I just knew she was the one. Its rare to find a smart well read girl who wants to settle down early in life and raise a family, so I jumped at the first opportunity to ask her out. We hit things off right away and once I realized she was into off the chart learning and loving she became my life long partner, we are five years into this thing called habitual breeding and with 4 kids seem to be working overtime.
The other half of my calling is to maintain a large family within this world of non existant values and with little help from others, maintaining a healthy family structure in a day when the majority of people are breaking away from traditional responsibilities is a full time job in itself, I barley have time to post and that being said I am going to be late for work, I started the Mexican restaurant and have to be there preparing the forms for the parking lot lights.
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@SkinnyDevil cool job. I play a little (when no ones around)
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@SkinnyDevil cool job. I play a little (when no ones around)
You should play WITH people, too!
If you're anywhere near Canberra, you should hook up with my buddy Bill Quinn (he does a little of everything).
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You should play WITH people, too!
If you're anywhere near Canberra, you should hook up with my buddy Bill Quinn (he does a little of everything).
SD, I agree with that. My playing skyrocketed when I started down that road.
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Rhode Island School of Design Drop Out
Trying To Find Out What Really Matters
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Rhode Island School of Design Drop Out
Trying To Find Out What Really Matters
My 2 cents (for what little it matters) is follow your passion first. Hone your craft, then learn to monetize it.
Of course, my opinion is extremely biased.
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My 2 cents (for what little it matters) is follow your passion first. Hone your craft, then learn to monetize it.
Of course, my opinion is extremely biased.
Well you do win for the best job!
You can also find a job that accomodates your passion outside of work. I'm still trying to find my niche, something I can focus and be good at and in demand.
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>>> i am only gonna get married if the woman shares my lifestyle/beliefs of RZC
i'm holding out for a woman with lots of money. Klow, got any friends for me?
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I'm a waitress/biology student.
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i'm holding out for a woman with lots of money.
Is that why you like to practise being the bitch? xD
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Well you do win for the best job!
You can also find a job that accomodates your passion outside of work. I'm still trying to find my niche, something I can focus and be good at and in demand.
Thanx...though it's really only the best job for me. Wouldn't work out so well for someone who doesn't like music (hahaha!) or dislikes the idea of self-employment.
Yeah, the polar opposite of my plan also works for many I've known: Go for whatever pays for the lifestyle you're happy with, and keep your passion completely separate from your livelihood.
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Thanx...though it's really only the best job for me. Wouldn't work out so well for someone who doesn't like music (hahaha!) or dislikes the idea of self-employment.
Yeah, the polar opposite of my plan also works for many I've known: Go for whatever pays for the lifestyle you're happy with, and keep your passion completely separate from your livelihood.
SD,
Interesting thought and well said.
I love music and almost went in that direction but didn't. I don't consider that to be good or bad. It's just what I did.
Whatever you do, it has to be something that you love enough that you are more than willing and able to do with enthusiasm.
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>>> i am only gonna get married if the woman shares my lifestyle/beliefs of RZC
i'm holding out for a woman with lots of money. Klow, got any friends for me?
im doin this too. and im gonna go to uni and get a smart girl that wants to be the primary income. there are only gonna be more girls in the workplace anymore, and they are so good at school. i love kids nad taking care of them, so it will work out... now to scope that girl. she will prob have to be left handed as well, as we lefties are a smarter breed
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I would totally take the lead in raising the children. To hell with cultural norms, I don't need to make the most money to feel masculine or purposeful. I couldn't imagine sending my (future) children to public school.
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We lefties are waaaay smarter! ;)
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I would totally take the lead in raising the children. To hell with cultural norms, I don't need to make the most money to feel masculine or purposeful. I couldn't imagine sending my (future) children to public school.
i think i want to have a community home school, and i will take charge of it. my kids cant just be w their siblings, but all the ciriculum in school is these days is english/math, and they do a shit job. they literally teach nothing.
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I would totally take the lead in raising the children.
I think similarly to you.
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I think similarly to you.
To do it well is easier said than done, but definitely a worthwhile goal.
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To do it well is easier said than done
It's very true.
But that kind of challenge could be reaaaaaally fascinating to deal with :)
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That's the spirit!
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My professional job is baby maker, baby raiser.
I find various ways and means to raise them kids.
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they literally teach nothing.
or maybe you learned nothing? no doubt education, like anything, requires some inherent self-starter initiative, and is, thus, what one makes of it.
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or maybe you learned nothing? no doubt education, like anything, requires some inherent self-starter initiative, and is, thus, what one makes of it.
One needs decent inspiration, though. In my prep-school, I got some very good teachers, but in my public school(british term for private schools) most of my teachers were appalling, being alcoholics etc. I did do some self-learning on my own, re reading most of Charles Dickens' works and many other works of literature but that was mainly as a result of my academic father giving encouragement.
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or maybe you learned nothing?
;D
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im doin this too. and im gonna go to uni and get a smart girl that wants to be the primary income. there are only gonna be more girls in the workplace anymore, and they are so good at school. i love kids nad taking care of them, so it will work out... now to scope that girl. she will prob have to be left handed as well, as we lefties are a smarter breed
Girls are good at school and at work. I can't believe how hard they work writing reports and stuff like that. Don't even hear from them for hours. We get side tracked, don't do much, stand around wheeling/dealing, posturing and generally talking it up...but that's how it works...
Two of my mates have decided with their wives they will be raising the kids, their wives get paid really well and enjoy their jobs. My mates don't..heh
Another friend is taking taking the leave from work for when the his kid is 6 months old to 1 year old, his wife is currently doing the 0-6 month stint, seems like it's getting pretty common.
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Girls are good at school and at work. I can't believe how hard they work writing reports and stuff like that. Don't even hear from them for hours. We get side tracked, don't do much, stand around wheeling/dealing, posturing and generally talking it up...but that's how it works...
Two of my mates have decided with their wives they will be raising the kids, their wives get paid really well and enjoy their jobs. My mates don't..heh
Another friend is taking taking the leave from work for when the his kid is 6 months old to 1 year old, his wife is currently doing the 0-6 month stint, seems like it's getting pretty common.
One sad result of this stuff is that babies tend to miss out on being breast fed.
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if i were the top moneymaker in the relationship i would never feel sexually attracted to my husband.
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if i were the top moneymaker in the relationship i would never feel sexually attracted to my husband.
Another problem I've heard about is that men whose wives start earning more than them, are more likely to end up having affairs(perhaps because they, subconsciously, want to do something that ends a relationship they are uncomfortable with due to the disparity in wages).
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if i were the top moneymaker in the relationship i would never feel sexually attracted to my husband.
ya this has def crossed my mind, along w the breast feeding thing. how long is breastfeeding required neway? everything is so mixed up these days...
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ya this has def crossed my mind, along w the breast feeding thing. how long is breastfeeding required neway? everything is so mixed up these days...
My way of thinking is that as soon as a baby gets its 1st teeth(6 months usually) that that is the point when more solid food needs to start being introduced.
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Another problem I've heard about is that men whose wives start earning more than them, are more likely to end up having affairs(perhaps because they, subconsciously, want to do something that ends a relationship they are uncomfortable with due to the disparity in wages).
It's not the natural order of things for the woman to be earning more than the man, he would really have to apha it up as thug/brawler/player to keep his woman.
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My way of thinking is that as soon as a baby gets its 1st teeth(6 months usually) that that is the point when more solid food needs to start being introduced.
Interesting thoughts,
In one book that I read ("What the Dog Saw", Malcolm Gladwell I think) Malcolm mentioned a study done by a female anthropologist. (again I believe that is what she is) She had a pet theory that the women in third world countries (that she studied) breast fed the children for quite awhile (4 years I believe) and since they were pregnant frequently they only had about 100 menstrual cycles in their lives compared to about 400 for an average first world mother. Therefore this constant menstruation actually was what she theorized was a causal factor in a the serious illnesses plaguing first world women. Cancer for instance.
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A lot of the women I know who actually breastfed, did so until their children were three or four- until, as a lot of them put it,the children "weaned themselves"
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Interesting thoughts,
In one book that I read ("What the Dog Saw", Malcolm Gladwell I think) Malcolm mentioned a study done by a female anthropologist. (again I believe that is what she is) She had a pet theory that the women in third world countries (that she studied) breast fed the children for quite awhile (4 years I believe) and since they were pregnant frequently they only had about 100 menstrual cycles in their lives compared to about 400 for an average first world mother. Therefore this constant menstruation actually was what she theorized was a causal factor in a the serious illnesses plaguing first world women. Cancer for instance.
One of the main reasons for HG women breastfeeding that long is that breastfeeding has a contraceptive effect almost as high as the Pill.
AV has a different theory re menstruation:- he suggests that menstruation allows women to more easily get rid of some of the toxins in cooked foods, thus partially explaining why women live longer than men.
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Is that why you like to practise being the bitch? xD
LOL, so true...
Before you "hold out" for such a nice woman Alan perhaps you should consider whether or not she'll give you a second look with the attitude of some of your posts. Just a thought.
I hate when people talk about how they are holding out because they need this and that, no you are holding out cause you have not found someone. And the reason you haven't found someone might be because of the dumb shit you say/think, it repulses most nice women and attracts women who are themselves repulsive. And then complain that all the women suck - no they don't its cause you only attract the loser ones because you are yourself like that ha ha. This is not directed to anyone but in general what I observe about guys who keep saying how they are holding out for so long LOL ...riiiiight.....
Its funny how some you guys have so many criteria for finding a good person to be with....that she should make X money, that she should be raw paleo, that she should be left handed etc etc...and all that crap. You realize when you love someone and when you meet someone you truly want to be with and they want to be with you that NONE of that crap will matter! Its that kind of thinking which will prevent you from finding a good mate in the first place.
Another thing is who cares whether the guy or the girl makes more money. If the guy makes less money that doesn't automatically make them less hot/sexy. I have met guys that had shitty jobs but they were pretty fukin hot and sexy. And I have met guys who are rich yet they are repulsive so who cares. I am with my man because we get along good, we are the best of friends, and because I love his character/attitude/demeanor the best....how much money he makes, which hand he uses to write and what diet he chooses to follow has no effect on how much I love him or whether or not I want to be with him. All that can change and people can change and grow TOGETHER and that whats important and makes a strong and meaningful relationship. IMO!
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thank you, yuli :)
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thank you, yuli :)
I agree.. All of that self defeating behavior needs to end. I was a habitual douche when it came to yanging with the yin, I kind of "woke up" to that recently. I am much happier now.
I disagree with the idea that "NONE of that crap will matter". some things are important to me, I could not be with someone who ate chemical food, or made crappy choices about who she associates with. However I don't think I could fall for an idiot anyway. Unless she made lots of money. LOL :P
It's not the natural order of things for the woman to be earning more than the man, he would really have to apha it up as thug/brawler/player to keep his woman.
You'd have to be able to lay down a good beating that is for sure!
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ya i probly sound very picky/douchebaggish and realized that just now reading what i posted. u have to realize what it is like in london on. soooooo conservative/closed minded here, and no offense but most women are drones to cell phone/facebook. so what i am trying to say is i desire an oddball like myself(which is very rare here), and i guess some of the things i listed are things I THINK such a person might posses.
but most of you probly live in better cities. London is kinda weird, its a big little hick town of .5mil where the talk of the town for young adults is where u predrank/what happened at one of the 6 lameass bars. so i sound like a douche now but w.e... life goes on
for the record, london has THE WORST DRIVERS IN THE WORLD. that is when u know u live in a lame/boring/conservative place
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ya i probly sound very picky/douchebaggish and realized that just now reading what i posted. u have to realize what it is like in london on. soooooo conservative/closed minded here, and no offense but most women are drones to cell phone/facebook. so what i am trying to say is i desire an oddball like myself(which is very rare here), and i guess some of the things i listed are things I THINK such a person might posses.
but most of you probly live in better cities. London is kinda weird, its a big little hick town of .5mil where the talk of the town for young adults is where u predrank/what happened at one of the 6 lameass bars. so i sound like a douche now but w.e... life goes on
It is the same in most places, frustrating as hell.
I would be nuts if I did not have a dog.
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Its funny how some you guys have so many criteria for finding a good person to be with....that she should make X money, that she should be raw paleo, that she should be left handed etc etc...and all that crap. You realize when you love someone and when you meet someone you truly want to be with and they want to be with you that NONE of that crap will matter! Its that kind of thinking which will prevent you from finding a good mate in the first place.
That's oversimplification, Yuli.
Of course, X money doesn't IMO matter, left- or righ-handed - the same.
But healthy way of living, exercising, intelligence, honesty, etc. - YES, YES, YES
I could love somebody FOR something, BECAUSE she is.....
The same is in Nature, among the animals - female ones are looking for the strong, healthy mates, difinitely not for the weak ones.
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Well, Yuli, that was a great post. It's a refreshing contrast to my female cousins, who`ve been trained by their mother to view men as being just meal-tickets/walking-wallets. Not that they are representative, of course.
That said, I did once read some scientific studies on relationships and I read that it was found that relationships had a much higher chance of success when the couples were within an overall 2 points of each other on a 1-10 scale of a number of different characteristics re beauty, intelligence, social skills, education, money, personality etc.. If there was a sharp contrast between the couple regarding one characteristic, then, unless there was a reverse big difference in another characteristic to balance that out, it was found that the relationship often suffered, regardless of the positive emotions involved. So a man earning considerably less than his partner will be fine as long as he is considerably superior in some other characteristic.
But, yes, concentrating on just 1 characteristic is a bad idea, IMO. My example re my female cousins is a case in point. Their excessive focus on money/possessions meant that their male partners were not only invariably seriously lacking in other crucial male characteristics, but men with serious amounts of wealth were invariably put off by them, over time.
As for being left-handed, that was a big deal until recent historical times, as, in the past, being left-handed was seen as the sign of the devil and unnatural, with left-handed children being forced to write with the right hand etc. It's still frowned upon in some parts of the world, come to think of it. So I could see why someone might have a preference for someone with left- or right-handedness.
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Well I didn't literally mean that NOTHING matters, if nothing mattered we wouldn't care or even talk about our future mates, we wouldn't have any reason to etc...but what matters to us at certain points in our life can change, for example some people came to this forum because now what they eat matters to them and before something else mattered and they didn't consider this, that doesn't matter lol (I love using the same word many times in a sentence)...
We do tend to worry about things we really shouldn't care about and ignore some things that we shouldn't be blind to, its a common mistake in humans. So when we formulate lists of the things that matter in our partner that we are going to "hold out" for, they often have little substance and will only lead to a very 'sterile' or fruitless and depressing way of life. As you have experienced Tyler with some cousins of yours. I have observed many similar things and not just with money and this is why I would rather slightly "oversimplify" my life then make it more complicated. Because whatever I have planned in my complications will likely have little to do with really living life, like living life and being happy and gaining more wisdom, learning, experiencing etc. some of the best moments and decisions in my life came without any planning, and vise versa.
When you try to concentrate on living for yourself, you will find the perfect person when the time comes, when you radiate a certain energy you will find a common energy, but it wont be anything close to your list of X, Y and Z. Yes you will have differences and common interests, but there is no way to measure as it will depend on both of you as people...I guess its a difficult thing to explain, but the best things happen when I am not giving a shit about others or about most of the things people worry about but I am really doing things for myself (and you know I don't mean like going to get a massage or a pedicure ;) )...and vise versa. It seems like when I am making all these plans and lists and worrying about them I don't progress as well, looking for a certain partner seems just as meaningless to me. The partner will become your partner when the time comes and thats all there is.
By the way I know someone I used to be close friends with, but unfortunately their other half went a little crazy with LISTS...you might have no idea how crazy it gets, you can loose track of whats important and you won't even know what really want, you senses become all screwed up its just like with SAD diet you know what I mean.
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But healthy way of living, exercising, intelligence, honesty, etc. - YES, YES, YES
I could love somebody FOR something, BECAUSE she is.....
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Of course, just about every human on earth LIKES being with someone in good heath, who is intelligent and doesn't lie to them, for sure.
Who would actually prefer to be with someone, poor, sickly and stupid :o
But there are more dynamics as well.
I don't know if I can say that I love the people I love or have loved FOR something, perhaps it is just BECAUSE they "are"...when someone IS something that radiates with what you ARE then its all groovey baby! 8)
I can definitely say I don't love the people I don't love because they just AREN'T....in whatever way, there can be so many different way that people CAN'T be what you can love. There is no point of making headings and lists even...
I am soooooo tired and sleepy now, if nothing I wrote makes sense oh well O0
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I don't know if I can say that I love the people I love or have loved FOR something, perhaps it is just BECAUSE they "are"...when someone IS something that radiates with what you ARE then its all groovey baby! 8)
Ok, "because..." is probably the better description, I agree.
I am soooooo tired and sleepy now, if nothing I wrote makes sense oh well O0
It makes sens, yuli. Don't worry, chill out and sleep well. :)
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Well, Yuli, that was a great post. It's a refreshing contrast to my female cousins, who`ve been trained by their mother to view men as being just meal-tickets/walking-wallets. Not that they are representative, of course.
That said, I did once read some scientific studies on relationships and I read that it was found that relationships had a much higher chance of success when the couples were within an overall 2 points of each other on a 1-10 scale of a number of different characteristics re beauty, intelligence, social skills, education, money, personality etc.. If there was a sharp contrast between the couple regarding one characteristic, then, unless there was a reverse big difference in another characteristic to balance that out, it was found that the relationship often suffered, regardless of the positive emotions involved. So a man earning considerably less than his partner will be fine as long as he is considerably superior in some other characteristic.
But, yes, concentrating on just 1 characteristic is a bad idea, IMO. My example re my female cousins is a case in point. Their excessive focus on money/possessions meant that their male partners were not only invariably seriously lacking in other crucial male characteristics, but men with serious amounts of wealth were invariably put off by them, over time.
My ex was focussed on the money side of the equation and I was probably focussed on her coming from a seemingly cohesive sensible family. There was no real love involved and it showed, we separated blah blah.
Now I am in a relationship that you describe Yuli and Tyler and it is spectacular. What you say Tyler is spot on. We work on keeping the fun in the relationship and we really have a symbiotic situation. Neither one has an upper hand intellectually or physically. What each one excels at the other is interested in and benefits from the transfer of knowledge. Funnily enough we both had very parallel lives prior to meeting and made almost the same amount of money.
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It is the same in most places, frustrating as hell.
I would be nuts if I did not have a dog.
Isn't that illegal?
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Isn't that illegal?
Only with sheep.
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Never listen to what girls say about relationships fellas.
Or....if you unfortunately do hear some of it by accident do the opposite of what they say! Heheh...but seriously...I'm right, do the opposite.
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do the opposite.
Could you elaborate more on this? ;D
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Could you elaborate more on this? ;D
I bet Yuli has a list.
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There is something beyond illogical about the nature of love, disire and emotion, and Women are not machines that you can turn off and on by pushing some behavioralistic button, although I have mine fairly well tuned, she still goes of the hinges from time to time,(regardless of how I act), but that's what keeps things interresting. Mr. Spock describes women as a mass of conflicting emotions, and I wouldn't have mine if she was any other way."Crazy is the price of admission for this ride baby", is what I tell her regullary and she is willing to pay the toll.
There has to be a way for each other in the relationship to express the selfishness and faults within our human nature without being labled a jerk, bitch, ahole , etc. So far I have had mixed results, but every now in then I have been able to play a good emotional harp and cast my spell over my love, and at least for a while she will forget about what absolute dogs most men can be and remember to love without restraint.
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There is something beyond illogical about the nature of love, disire and emotion, and Women are not machines that you can turn off and on by pushing some behavioralistic button, although I have mine fairly well tuned, she still goes of the hinges from time to time,(regardless of how I act), but that's what keeps things interresting. Mr. Spock describes women as a mass of conflicting emotions, and I wouldn't have mine if she was any other way."Crazy is the price of admission for this ride baby", is what I tell her regullary and she is willing to pay the toll.
There has to be a way for each other in the relationship to express the selfishness and faults within our human nature without being labled a jerk, bitch, ahole , etc. So far I have had mixed results, but every now in then I have been able to play a good emotional harp and cast my spell over my love, and at least for a while she will forget about what absolute dogs most men can be and remember to love without restraint.
LOL,
"Goes off the hinges...."
Reminds me of what Mark Gungor says;
"If you ask a woman to describe the perfect man,
she describes another woman"
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Never listen to what girls say about relationships fellas.
Or....if you unfortunately do hear some of it by accident do the opposite of what they say! Heheh...but seriously...I'm right, do the opposite.
I'll elaborate if he won't.... he is just putting all girls in the same category, what if I said something like "Never believe what a guy says its a lie"...these kinds of gender based conclusions can close a lot of interesting relationships etc...
Always do the opposite? Oh dear... That leaves you wide open to reverse psychology...not good to be so predictable. I know coupla guy who are always "doin the opposite", guess what they are the ones mostly falling into the easiest of womens traps, they are also the ones being mostly just used by women and have trouble to find any real woman. Perhaps because they are not being realistic either, they think they are so rebellious but they are just predictable.
So men should only listen to men about other relationships? Sure, right, because most men are so good at it, ha ha! Crack me up.
Its partly because men only listen to men and women only listen to women around them that screws them up, it becomes like inbreeding and then their diversity stagnates...
I bet Yuli has a list.
Why you say that, I am the last person to plan anything to the point it pisses off others... If I have a list its blank and collecting cobwebs. Or are you just trying to say that because its the opposite of what I said about myself? :-* ....ok then, fine, yes I have a very very rigorous list, I keep it hidden in my ass, come up and get it if you wanna know >D lol just kidding!
Oh well I am glad to know some men and women in life who are real great people, I don't care if good advice is coming from a man or a woman, there is much more that matters, the meat and potatoes is all in the head not in the crotch.
Reminds me of what Mark Gungor says;
"If you ask a woman to describe the perfect man,
she describes another woman"
Heh... I know women are too emotional usually but really most men are overly emotional too, its annoying.
There is no way to describe the perfect one, I find many of the big faults are common among both genders, just displayed a little differently.
I have many faults like other women and men do, but I am glad to explore them and to find answers.
I never want to stagnate, I like to explore new ways of thinking etc. sometimes as we get older we fall into a mental routine and forget to do that. Becoming annoying and overly predictable.
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As for being left-handed, that was a big deal until recent historical times, as, in the past, being left-handed was seen as the sign of the devil and unnatural, with left-handed children being forced to write with the right hand etc. It's still frowned upon in some parts of the world, come to think of it. So I could see why someone might have a preference for someone with left- or right-handedness.
Tyler,
That's all fine 'n dandy theory, but you try sitting at the dinner table with a leftie ta yer righty..... LOL
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I have many faults like other women and men do, but I am glad to explore them and to find answers.
I never want to stagnate, I like to explore new ways of thinking etc. sometimes as we get older we fall into a mental routine and forget to do that. Becoming annoying and overly predictable.
Exactly and that is what is so great about a balanced relationship as Tyler suggested. We get the honour of learning in equal measure.
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I think 'crotch' has to be the least sexual word on the planet, just makes me think of baseball.
I can see myself being a stay at home dad. I would like my kids to be breastfed, but short of that I wouldn't have any expectations/requirements for a woman or children as far as what their diet would be etc...my only requirement is that I am accepted for who I am, and that my vote is heard and acknowledged on various things. I expect a woman to be a good person (and hot), but not a perfect person or fulfill X requirements or fiscal responsibilities!
ok ok, this is just reverse psychology to attract a raw princess of Monaco.
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I think 'crotch' has to be the least sexual word on the planet, just makes me think of baseball
Tried....nothing
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As for being left-handed, that was a big deal until recent historical times, as, in the past, being left-handed was seen as the sign of the devil and unnatural, with left-handed children being forced to write with the right hand etc. It's still frowned upon in some parts of the world, come to think of it. So I could see why someone might have a preference for someone with left- or right-handedness.
I experienced this firsthand. Up until 2nd grade my teachers forced me to write with my right hand, and then continued to tell my parents that I had learning disabilities because I couldn't write well. I remember the teachers telling me to pick up the pencil with my right hand, because being left handed isn't "good for you."
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An interesting book that I mentioned on other threads is one by Jacquelyn Wonder and Priscilla Donovan called "Whole Brain Thinking". It was published in the mid eighties and it explores the science up to then on use of the right/left hemispheres of the brain. The hand that you write with is covered quite extensively as is the predominant hemisphere that is used. You have the upper hand (sorry couldn't resist) on the rest of us as most cannot do a thing with their non-dominant hand.
Being ambidextrous has a curious affect on your intelligence (if that is definable). It makes you more well-rounded. She recommends practicing writing with your non-dominant hand.
However I empathize with being forced to by a neanderthal teacher.
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I'm an artist, I dare say I'm very creative. BUT I'm also very good at math and critical thinking science-y stuff- otherwise I wouldn't be in school for Biochemistry/math. Growing up though, "they" had me convinced that since I was good at art and creative tasks, that I COULDN'T be good at math. "They" convinced me that one could be either rational or intuitive, NEVER both. So, when I do choose to breed, I'm homeschooling.
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I remember being pulled aside in 2nd grade and being forced to pronounce words with and Australian accent.
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I remember being pulled aside in 2nd grade and being forced to pronounce words with an Australian accent.
I also had problems as a kid. I remember my 1st year at school, where I was forced to attend a French Lycee where all young pupils spoke French and/or German but no English, but, unfortunately my parents, being brilliant linguists, had wrongly assumed that I had already mastered those 2 other languages, by age 5, so I had to sit through endless classes where I only understood the teacher c. 10 percent of the time, and was therefore labelled as "extremely slow" etc.
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I ended up in special ed for a while. They wrongly assumed that I was autistic, based on my temperament. Schools....blech.
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I ended up in special ed for a while. They wrongly assumed that I was autistic, based on my temperament. Schools....blech.
Most kids labeled "autistic" are just riding the sugar rollercoaster, are just shy, or both.
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I'm an artist, I dare say I'm very creative. BUT I'm also very good at math and critical thinking science-y stuff- otherwise I wouldn't be in school for Biochemistry/math. Growing up though, "they" had me convinced that since I was good at art and creative tasks, that I COULDN'T be good at math. "They" convinced me that one could be either rational or intuitive, NEVER both. So, when I do choose to breed, I'm homeschooling.
Interesting, that follows what the girls in that book I mentioned said. Lefties will tend to be creative/intuitive and if they develop the other side of their brain by use of their non-dominant hand for instance they will have mastered the both sides of the brain and thus have mastery of the whole brain. You may not see the logic, but you are fortunate. Most of us righties are not so fortunate.
Your teachers inadvertently gave you a gift although it certainly may not seemed like it at the time.
I too have no love of the teachers in school for my own reasons. I'll spare you the rant. ;) ;D
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raw-al- they totally makes sense. I suppose I can appreciate my teachers' ignorance. I paint/draw/sew/shoot alternating between right and left. I use right handed scissors and can openers just fine. I can write legibly with my right hand, I'm just much slower.
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very interesting!
In that book I mentioned they suggest that anyone can learn to improve their lot by exercising their non-dominant side with a variety of modalities. They give a test that shows where you are in terms of your right/left abilities and then show how to bring both sides to equilibrium.
This book is one of the many that I have not finished but plan to.......... someday l)
I found it at
http://www.betterworldbooks.com/whole-brain-thinking-id-0345322045.aspx
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My mother is left handed and was teaching me to read and write before kindergarten. The kindergarten teacher physically forced me to write with my right hand and told my mother that her teaching me was ruining her lessions. I soon adapted and became a right hander although some of my early development was under left handed influences. I am a halfling who has creative aspirations and am trapped in between the mental hemispheres within a nexus of all inclusive thinking. I swear I have always viewed things dualistically and this split perspective has been both a curse and a blessing.
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haha Sabertooth- I can agree somewhat. Sometimes I don't know what angle I want to approach a problem from. The inconsistency in my problem solving methodology is irritating sometimes, but I suppose it's nice to have a full arsenal.
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