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Title: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: Nicola on June 06, 2008, 04:37:42 am
What do you use to wash and clean?

http://www.maggiespureland.com/


and for your personal hygiene :-\???
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: xylothrill on June 06, 2008, 12:30:40 pm
I use toothsoap for my teeth but when I run out, I think I'll just use regular castle soap since I've gotten used to the taste. I use either Crystal or Tom's of Maine deodorant. I have found though that I really don't smell bad so long as I shower daily, for which I use Dr Bonner's on only "key areas" and hair. The rest of my body I just rinse. If I'm dirty, I just rub it off. Only if I've gotten grease on myself do I use soap to get it off. I think our natural oils are there to protect the skin and provide vitamin D.

I've never head of the soapnuts. How interesting! I've made my own laundry soap out of borax, washing soda, and melted castle soap but It wasn't really effective. So I just use whatever natural stuff I can find or at least unscented regular detergent.

Craig
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: TylerDurden on June 09, 2008, 04:19:04 pm
I've recently taken to using coconut-oil soap, as it's less worse than other soaps. Though I would never go in or eating coconut oil as such. I also use a unique antibacterial deodorant called trust, so as to avoid using the aluminium-containing sprays that others use. I only rub it on the hair , not the skin, so the petroleum -content etc. isn't too harmful as a result. I very rarely  wash my hair as my hair is self-cleaning. Other than a mouthwash to soothe the sensitivities of cooked-food eaters e my use of "high-meat", that's all I use re chemicals.
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: Raw Kyle on July 26, 2008, 01:38:40 am
For laundry and dishes I've been using whatever my local hfs has as "ecological" stuff. I've used "Seventh Generation" products and others. Right now I'm using a soap made at a farm I used to shop at but it's running out so I'll probably buy some Dr. Bronner's or something like that. I use some kind of "natural" toothpaste with an Ayurvedic formula, and I started washing my hair again sometimes because someone gave me some shampoo and conditioner they haven't been using. I try to use natural deodorant but it's the damndest thing, sometimes it just doesn't work at all.
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: boxcarguy07 on July 26, 2008, 02:17:10 am
For laundry, I've been not using any detergent at all. Water alone should be enough to get rid of any dirt/skin cell/etc. buildup. That is unless the clothes are really really dirty. Hydrogen peroxide works to remove most stains. Before stopping my use of detergent, I believe the brand I used was Seventh Generation, although that may have been just my dish detergent.

For teeth, I both brush and rinse with hydrogen peroxide and baking soda.

For hair, I mix up some apple cider vinegar and baking soda with a little warm water and rinse my hair with that every few days. Other than that, just water. My hair is more shiny, soft, and manageable than it's EVER been.

For hand soap, I use whatever natural bar soap I happen to buy whenever I need some. Right now it's some Ayurvedic soap.
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: Sully on July 26, 2008, 02:35:26 am
Teeth= I use only water and scrub, and soak my tooth brush once a week in sea salt water to clean it.

Laundry= Some eco friendly brand...

Bath & Shower= Just water and scrub with my hands. No rags involved.

I'm eating 80% to 90% meats and organs now. No need for special dental care tooth paste.

People have been brainwashed into thinking they need these products. If your eating strict raw paleo, you don't need any of those products. They are a waste of resources and energy to produce anyway.
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: Nicola on July 26, 2008, 03:45:45 am
I have got some soapnuts (a little bag last a year) now

http://www.antalava.com/english/home.html

(not this make) and am very happy with the result. I boiled some up and use the brew for cleaning and personal hygiene (I go swimming every day so I need a little something).

I don't need any deo; I shave once a week and don't smell of sweat.

I clean my teeth once a day with the acid water (extra for cleaning teeth) from my ionized water magic box.

So happy not to "need" or "believe to need" all that rubbish (I was brain washed threw my up bringing and learnt to be a beautician on top!) I used to spend time and money on :D.

Nicola
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: akaikumo on July 26, 2008, 08:11:23 am
Not on raw or full paleo yet, still in transition, but I use baking soda pretty frequently--teeth, body, hair, cleaning, laundry; pretty much everything. I've mixed it with a little corn starch to make deodorant and brushed it on, and it worked fine. Best thing about it is it's cheap.
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: wodgina on July 26, 2008, 09:57:51 am
80 years ago BO didn't exist, dream't up by some very clever marketers. I personally don't mind BO unless the person is unclean,unwell or trying to cover it up with perfumes/deodorant. My work takes me into the city and out to the bush and I find office workers are stinkier than outdoor workers which goes against what you would think.
Laundry - washing up liquid (my work clothes get really dirty)
Teeth - Bicarb soda  (15+ years)
Dirty hands - cheap soap
Hair - Keep it really short
Deodorant - I used bicarb soda when I was a teenager but stopped deodorant about 12 years ago. Never had any problems after the first few months...
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: Raw Kyle on July 27, 2008, 11:17:24 pm
Anyone here like the smell of Old Spice? It's just so classic; unfortunately I'm sure it contains aluminum and other no-no's.
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: akaikumo on August 01, 2008, 08:50:18 am
I was looking at soap nuts, and I was curious if anyone had ever grown Chinese Soapberry indoors? I know it's a tree, so I'm not sure what it would do potted (large pot) and pruned.
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: goodsamaritan on August 01, 2008, 09:43:54 am
My wife buys organic laundry soap from the organic cooperative.
For personal hygiene, I soap only my butt with light virgin coconut oil soap.  Aside from that I don't soap the rest of my body.  My hands when they're dirty.
I do not shampoo nor soap my hair.  When I do get a haircut I do shampoo with gugu, it is a traditional pure herb extract sold in the market.
For toothpaste, just water, if i feel a need, some of the virgin coconut oil soap.
For deodorant I use calamansi, a citrus, like lemon.  But only when i feel the need.
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: rawrock2 on September 15, 2008, 06:28:52 am
body and hair ->  I use a mix of raw aloe vera, oranges, lemons, and habanero peppers

teeth -> regular toothpaste (although I'm probably going to start using only strawberries when I go back to 100% raw paleo)

deodarant -> I use the crystal stick (I don't like using this because the of the ammonium alum and potassium alum it contains but I've tried lemon & calamansi but they don't really work for me.  I would continue to use natural alternatives but the office I work at doesn't like the body odor I have when not using the crystal.... :( )
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: TylerDurden on September 15, 2008, 06:48:37 am
body and hair ->  I use a mix of raw aloe vera, oranges, lemons, and habanero peppers

teeth -> regular toothpaste (although I'm probably going to start using only strawberries when I go back to 100% raw paleo)

deodarant -> I use the crystal stick (I don't like using this because the of the ammonium alum and potassium alum it contains but I've tried lemon & calamansi but they don't really work for me.  I would continue to use natural alternatives but the office I work at doesn't like the body odor I have when not using the crystal.... :( )

I use a product called trust. It contains no aluminium, unlike most other deodorants, and you just put it on the hair under the arms, and it kills off the bacteria. Since the bacteria only reappear , smell-wise, after c.5 days, you only have to use it once every 5 days before going to bed. I don't know how strawberries would help re teeth
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: Satya on September 15, 2008, 07:06:01 am
body and hair ->  I use a mix of raw aloe vera, oranges, lemons, and habanero peppers

teeth -> regular toothpaste (although I'm probably going to start using only strawberries when I go back to 100% raw paleo)

deodarant -> I use the crystal stick (I don't like using this because the of the ammonium alum and potassium alum it contains but I've tried lemon & calamansi but they don't really work for me.  I would continue to use natural alternatives but the office I work at doesn't like the body odor I have when not using the crystal.... :( )

Holy moley, habaneros on the body?

I use Jason deoderant.  Aluminum free.  I like the herbs and spice variety.  And it works great.
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: rawrock2 on September 15, 2008, 08:09:28 am
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I don't know how strawberries would help re teeth
Strawberries can help whiten your teeth. 
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Holy moley, habaneros on the body?
Yep, makes the skin tighter and helps toughen the skin. (for me at least)  It does burn at first but you get used to that feeling quickly.
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: Squall on September 15, 2008, 08:46:48 am
Do you guys feel that your body "odor" is less or non-existent since your dietary changes? I love the weekends because I can get away with not wearing deodorant, but at work that could get awkward, so I spread on the aluminum stuff ... but as lightly as possible these days. I used to use the Tom's stuff, but it seemed more annoying and messy, not to mention almost ineffective for my needs. Then again, I've been eating trash for the last 28 years, too. Was hoping that once I've done the more natural thing for long enough, I might not even need deodorant.
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: boxcarguy07 on September 15, 2008, 09:52:53 am
No, I don't notice less body odor... actually I think eating a lot of meat makes my body odor worse, but it could be something else. It can get really bad actually  :-[

applying apple cider vinegar (sometimes with a drop of tea tree oil) to my underarms at night and then washing off in the morning helps for the next day. also I find that taking cold showers instead of hot helps a lot too for some reason.
sometimes I still need to use my Tom's deodorant. Just one or two swipes does the job.

I read a lot of places that said eating red meat is a big factor in body odor. Part of me just doesn't want to believe that, but that's probably not good. I'd really like to not have to use anything, but I don't want to give up my red meat. Is body odor definitely a sign of unhealthiness?
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: Squall on September 15, 2008, 11:21:02 am
I've read that, too. That's definitely a common theme on veg boards, and the mechanism they say is putrefaction of the meat in the intestines. But I've also heard that putrefaction doesn't occur with raw meats, just cooked, largely owing to the difficulty in digesting cooked foods. Maybe it just depends on the person?
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: goodsamaritan on September 15, 2008, 03:11:57 pm
Do you guys feel that your body "odor" is less or non-existent since your dietary changes? I love the weekends because I can get away with not wearing deodorant, but at work that could get awkward, so I spread on the aluminum stuff ... but as lightly as possible these days. I used to use the Tom's stuff, but it seemed more annoying and messy, not to mention almost ineffective for my needs. Then again, I've been eating trash for the last 28 years, too. Was hoping that once I've done the more natural thing for long enough, I might not even need deodorant.

I had zero body odor and had in fact sweet body odor during raw fruitarian.
But I felt cold and became too thin so I went raw paleo.
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: Raw Kyle on September 20, 2008, 06:57:02 am
I've been using baking soda for deodorant and it works well. I have a cup of it in my bathroom and every day I pour out a little bit into my hand, allow a few drops of water from the faucet to fall into it (just enough to mix well and dissolve) and then apply it. It has to be the cheapest deodorant possible and not at all harmful.
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: wodgina on September 20, 2008, 07:54:51 am
I've been using baking soda for deodorant and it works well. I have a cup of it in my bathroom and every day I pour out a little bit into my hand, allow a few drops of water from the faucet to fall into it (just enough to mix well and dissolve) and then apply it. It has to be the cheapest deodorant possible and not at all harmful.

Hey Kyle I've been doing this for 15 years, it works and I started to use less and less and now never wear any. I have a cold shower or swim once a day and wash my under arms with soap.

When I used to got out to pubs/parties i i noticed a got more ladies if I hadn't put on deodorant or had a shower just wash my face,  it works i swear!

Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: Bellyfull on October 25, 2008, 11:45:55 am

I clean my teeth once a day with the acid water (extra for cleaning teeth) from my ionized water magic box..
Nicola

nicola,
 
what is acid water and water magic box?

Do you still like soap nuts?
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: William on October 26, 2008, 12:21:41 am
Miracle II for hands when I've been working on the car or cleaning guns, also for laundry. Otherwise I don't use any soap.

Started using it because the inventor's story of how he found it (writing on the wall at 2 AM! :) ) tickled my fancy. Used to use it for showers - it's the only soap that ever made me feel good.
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: Nicola on October 26, 2008, 03:28:45 am
nicola,
 
what is acid water and water magic box?

Do you still like soap nuts?

I have an alkaline water ionizer, which also produces 1 - 4 grades of acid water (1 is for cleaning my teeth, 2 for washing the body, 3 for washing dishes and 4 for cleaning out the cats toilet box).

I now have EM's in my water (for the gut).

Yes, I still use my "Waschnüsse" for clothes, cleaning, hair and body after swimming...

Nicola
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: Guittarman03 on November 12, 2008, 03:44:40 am
I never brush my teeth; sometimes I'll use my fingernail to scrape off the film that develops, but eating a lemon/lime has the same effect.  Be careful not to eat too much acidic food though - my enamel started degrading when eating like 3 limes a day. 

Also, I don't shower but once a week.  I don't have really much problems with smell (at least not any more than the avg person).  If I lived near the ocean or a clean lake, I would like to rinse off there.  As it is, I'm sure that Vegas water has tons of chemicals added.  My skin always itches so much after a shower here, so I avoid it until I really need it.

I use coconut oil in my hair, mostly as a styling product, but I get the other benefits too.

Also, has anyone tried just grabbing some dirt from outside?  I got the idea b/c of foot odor.  I came home one night from a long day of wearing boots/cleats and realized my feet stink bad.  I tried rinsing them off but that didn't do much, and I won't use toxic soap.  It suddenly occurred to me that mashing my feet around in mud could solve the problem.  Sure enough, foot odor eliminated on the spot.

Now if I feel my hands are 'dirty' - and even in the shower - I will rub down with dirt or mud, and rinse.  It's full of minerals and some basic organic compounds (grass leftovers, if you will); its sure to draw out toxins and offer good minerals to be absorbed by the body.  We've been playing in dirt for millions of years - think of when you were a kid and how you loved to roll around in the dirt/grass.  And also, don't women pay like $100/ounce for special ancient Peruvian volcanic clay compound (or as it's commonly called - mud) to put on their faces?  Seems like a lucrative business to me... but I think I'll stick with free dirt from my back yard. 
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: livingthelife on November 25, 2008, 09:31:47 pm
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I have an alkaline water ionizer, which also produces 1 - 4 grades of acid water (1 is for cleaning my teeth, 2 for washing the body, 3 for washing dishes and 4 for cleaning out the cats toilet box).

I now have EM's in my water (for the gut).

What are EMs?

I've been dissolving a pinch of sea salt in distilled water w/ moonlight or diffused sunlight for drinking... Curious about this "gut-friendly" water... I assume your drinking the alkalized water? How's that going for you?

Also, how large / expensive is the equipment you use?
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: livingthelife on November 25, 2008, 09:50:04 pm
I have a vat of Bi-O-Kleen degreaser that we use for all household cleaning, including produce and laundry. I do use oxyclean for sheets. I add some rosemary EO or rubbing alcohol to the Bi-O-Kleen when needed, mostly for floors and bathroom. Lots of hot water.

We use castor oil / sunflower oil blend for body and "oil pulling" (oral hygiene). Sometimes olive oil as a cleanser. Coconut oil soap for hands & hair (& fur).

Teeth: We use a lot of toothpicks. We brush with baking soda and sea salt with 1 drop of an EO blend (3/4 myrrh, 1/4 tea tree, 1 drop neem seed). The oil blend is also very good for facials, wounds, and spot treating acne. The powder is also a good deep-cleaner for skin, as a scrub or dissolved. 

Since I added RAF I don't get nearly the plaque I used to, and I imagine that chewing more fat & meat would pretty much eliminate any buildup.

Apricot kernel oil w/ chamomile EO as a moisturizer if needed, with a drop or so of fermented skate oil now and then.

No deodorant, no need.

We use a lot of fresh aloe juice on our skin and frequently mist with water throughout the day.

We also have a sauna, which helps so much in cleansing the skin and detoxing the body.

All these posts are so thought-provoking and informative. Just wonderful!
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: RawZi on November 26, 2008, 03:44:26 am
What are EMs?

I've been dissolving a pinch of sea salt in distilled water w/ moonlight or diffused sunlight for drinking... Curious about this "gut-friendly" water... I assume your drinking the alkalized water? How's that going for you?

Also, how large / expensive is the equipment you use?
   
    EMs are effective microorganisms.  I think although they come from highmeat, they may be from a bottle in this case (like probiotic supplements are).
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: TylerDurden on November 26, 2008, 07:24:37 pm
EM are soil-derived bacteria.
Title: Questions for Nicola
Post by: livingthelife on November 26, 2008, 10:36:32 pm
Hi, can you tell me where you acquire the EMs? and also what type of water alkalizer / acidifier you have, it's size, and cost? I assume you are satisfied with it? Thank you!
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: TylerDurden on November 26, 2008, 11:07:51 pm
Hi, can you tell me where you acquire the EMs? and also what type of water alkalizer / acidifier you have, it's size, and cost? I assume you are satisfied with it? Thank you!

This is the only site I know of, with info on EM-products/suppliers etc.:-

http://www.eminfo.info/
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: livingthelife on November 26, 2008, 11:17:16 pm
Thank you, I'll investigate!
Title: Re: Questions for Nicola
Post by: Nicola on November 27, 2008, 05:00:57 am
Hi, can you tell me where you acquire the EMs? and also what type of water alkalizer / acidifier you have, it's size, and cost? I assume you are satisfied with it? Thank you!

The EMs are part of my water alkalizer (I didn't have them from the beginning. My supplier came to dekalk my machine, put a new filter in after 1 year and now the EM's are part of my "magic box"); http://www.ionlife.info/

I live in Switzerland and the supplier for my Ionquelle was a firm called "Avivamed" http://tinyurl.com/6o66tk

You would have to find a supplier in the USA.

The water gives me a lot of energy and has changed my life.

Nicola
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: livingthelife on November 27, 2008, 07:47:38 am
What a glowing recommendation! I will look into this. Very expensive but, like the sauna, probably worth every penny. Thank you for the info.
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: coconinoz on December 01, 2008, 02:26:59 am

water - sea salt - citric acid

Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: Satya on March 24, 2009, 05:46:04 am
Does anyone make their own soap?  I get tallow soaps from my beef rancher.  They have tallow, coconut oil, alkali and essential oils.  They are very long lasting and lather quite well.  I would like to try my own if it's not a major pain.  Anyone try this?
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: Nicola on April 10, 2009, 04:39:45 am
I have found a soap that I will be getting next week (via post). I was looking for a soap with the oils like Tooter has been kindly informing us about and EM which I have also added to my water ionizer.

http://tinyurl.com/cay6o4

This is all about EM (I have mentioned it before):

http://humanscience.wikia.com/wiki/EM_Project

So if you do clog up your drains with meat and fat, CO, oil pulling then some EM will clean things up for you

Nicola
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: RawZi on April 10, 2009, 07:48:44 pm
Thank you Nicola.  So I just poor a bottle down the drain if butter should clog the pipe?
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: Nicola on April 12, 2009, 04:40:42 am
Thank you Nicola.  So I just poor a bottle down the drain if butter should clog the pipe?

EM is a product that comes in many forms (it does not have to be liquid!); it is one of those grate products that is to good - to much money and to many jobs would be lost if it came threw in many country's!
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: Nicola on April 12, 2009, 04:41:16 am
Today I bought this soap:

Genuine Aleppo soap, made to the original recipe, is recognized and used for its natural properties. Made from olive and laurel oils, it has been produced in exactly the same way for 4'000 years. The olive oil (70%) feeds your skin without drying it out, whilst the oil of laurel (20%) purifies and protects.
Specially recommended for cleansing and cleaning dry skin (and problem skin) and hair - even for washing clothes. 100% Biodegradable.


http://www.alepposoap.com/presentation.htm

Nicola
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: RawZi on April 12, 2009, 08:54:14 pm
    Thank you Nicola for those last two posts (and everything you post, you're so intelligent). 

    I used to use bay leaves in my grain stores when I was on macrobiotic type diet, as bay helps keep insects away.
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: PaleoPhil on November 23, 2009, 03:34:55 am
Someone put the knowledge that some stuff absorbs into the body through the skin to strange use--caffeinated soap!

Shower Shock Caffeinated Soap
http://www.thinkgeek.com/caffeine/accessories/5a65/
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: raw on December 11, 2009, 02:46:21 am
Teeth= I use only water and scrub, and soak my tooth brush once a week in sea salt water to clean it.

Laundry= Some eco friendly brand...

Bath & Shower= Just water and scrub with my hands. No rags involved.

I'm eating 80% to 90% meats and organs now. No need for special dental care tooth paste.

People have been brainwashed into thinking they need these products. If your eating strict raw paleo, you don't need any of those products. They are a waste of resources and energy to produce anyway.
:-*to sully, excellent choice!!! remember, i'm a tropical woman and i'm from exotic country, where the soaps consider as  luxury item, tooth brush needed and pastes don't exist, but there's enough supply of organic clay and real neem trees and all those unknown exotic materials. no yellow teeth exist (eventhough they don't eat uncooked food). most of the girls have beautiful long hair where they only use henna from trees, RITHA(natural shampoo seeds grows in the trees ), coconut oil to conditioning hair and fresh handpicked jasmine, tuberose or antique roses to decorate those gorgeous hair. hair salons don't exist. i see the young boys (around 15/16 yrs old) get naked and puts the clay around their bodies and swim in the river naked. (only when i come US, i find that adults stay  naked, and kids wear clothes). also women don't look old even their 50s, i mean wrinkle less skin. no washing machine exist. people wash their clothes manually using river water and dry them under the hot tropical sun.

i avoid taking shower as much as i can (city water is extremely poor quality ), almost never use soap, except putting fresh wheatgrass entire body. i give bath my little boy with wheatgrass water. i make his toothpaste out of wheatgrass juice and raw organic butter. he brushes his teeth once in two months. i also put wheatgrass juice, raw egg yolks (curly hair), coconut oil to clean my hair. i've lost big chunk of hair while practicing being raw vegan. 

also, Guittarman03, has the nice answers. i enjoy to read your topics very much.  ;)
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: Hannibal on December 11, 2009, 03:29:07 am
Re hair washing - I use only Ghassoul clay from Marocco and it's really good, as it is very natural
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: jessica on December 11, 2009, 07:36:56 am
"so, has anyone tried just grabbing some dirt from outside? "

i am lucky enough to live where there is a great supply of natural clay, i have slathered myself in this wonderful red clay and left it on for days, the result was a bit of insomnia! and smooth skin, i have a large amount that i harvested after a rain storm, when it was extremely silty and fine.  i als have a few caves that supply this delicious wonderful white clay that i have eaten but may use for my hair now that i think about it.   i have definitely used grainer clay and dirt as a scrub though...i have a friend who prefers to wipe his but with dirt(when pooping in the forest, we hike A LOT!) because he swears its superior absorbency/cleanliness when compared to leaves!

effective microorganisms are excellent, i have used them for my own health as well as for agricultural purposes with amazing results! http://www.emamerica.com  (http://www.emamerica.com) is a source i am familiar with

i think soap wart is a pretty common plant in the united states, although i think it is a bit tedious and unnecessary the roots can be boiled into a soap for hair and skin

currently i use no soap, i loofa wet or dry maybe once a day, cold/cool showers
baking soda and a toothbrush for the teeth, and baking soda in my hair, although i may try some clay soon and baking soda/vinegar for the laundry

i do use jojoba oil for my skin and hair as i live in an extremely dry, high altitude climate which tends to the extreme hot or cold and my diet/skin has not been able to compensate for this regardless of the amount of water/fat intake and lack of showers

no deoderant though, i think i maybe have worn it a few times in my life but it seriously grosses me out,  and i dont remember who mentioned it but boys that smell like boys are far more attractive then boys who smell like chemicals!   
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: wodgina on December 11, 2009, 06:00:53 pm
"so, has anyone tried just grabbing some dirt from outside? "

i am lucky enough to live where there is a great supply of natural clay, i have slathered myself in this wonderful red clay and left it on for days, the result was a bit of insomnia! and smooth skin, i have a large amount that i harvested after a rain storm, when it was extremely silty and fine.  i als have a few caves that supply this delicious wonderful white clay that i have eaten but may use for my hair now that i think about it.   i have definitely used grainer clay and dirt as a scrub though...i have a friend who prefers to wipe his but with dirt(when pooping in the forest, we hike A LOT!) because he swears its superior absorbency/cleanliness when compared to leaves!

effective microorganisms are excellent, i have used them for my own health as well as for agricultural purposes with amazing results! http://www.emamerica.com  (http://www.emamerica.com) is a source i am familiar with

i think soap wart is a pretty common plant in the united states, although i think it is a bit tedious and unnecessary the roots can be boiled into a soap for hair and skin

currently i use no soap, i loofa wet or dry maybe once a day, cold/cool showers
baking soda and a toothbrush for the teeth, and baking soda in my hair, although i may try some clay soon and baking soda/vinegar for the laundry

i do use jojoba oil for my skin and hair as i live in an extremely dry, high altitude climate which tends to the extreme hot or cold and my diet/skin has not been able to compensate for this regardless of the amount of water/fat intake and lack of showers

no deoderant though, i think i maybe have worn it a few times in my life but it seriously grosses me out,  and i dont remember who mentioned it but boys that smell like boys are far more attractive then boys who smell like chemicals!   

I second that for girls, I really hate perfumes/makeup/deodourants/clothes smelling of laundry powder urgghh

I like the idea of clay for my armpits, I grap hand fulls of sand and rub when I have my morning swim down the beach..... although I like the way I smell anyway, unless I've eaten crap.

I was thinking about why girls get so addicted to lip balm, it's because they crave fat and after eating a fatty meal your lips are covered with fat and protected.
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: DeadRamones on December 13, 2009, 11:57:09 am
What about for shaving cream?

I tried switching razors, I tried just water. It only worked on some parts of my face, but cuts me up bad on other spots. My sister suggested yogurt. Not sure if I'm really down for that though.
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: PaleoPhil on December 13, 2009, 09:14:36 pm
I tried all three of the least toxic, environmentally-friendly shaving foams and lotions from my local healthfood/green product store and they were all lousy. So I still mainly use an electric razor and I use one of the somewhat less toxic conventional shave gels on those occasions I use a razor. I had hoped to go back to using a razor regularly, because razors shave better than any electric and my skin is less easily cut or irritated by razors now, but I'm not thrilled about the ingredients in the shave gels and creams that actually work. My skin is still sensitive enough and my beard tough enough that lotion alone doesn't do it for me.
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: TylerDurden on December 13, 2009, 11:01:48 pm
I just use standard shaving -cream(aloe vera added and the like). I can't use an electric shaver as it's useless for shaving my rather tough skin.
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: RawZi on December 27, 2009, 05:59:20 am
Genuine Aleppo soap, made to the original recipe, is recognized and used for its natural properties. ...
Specially recommended for cleansing and cleaning dry skin (and problem skin) and hair - even for washing clothes. 100% Biodegradable.


http://www.alepposoap.com/presentation.htm

    How is the soap working Nicola?  Have you tried it on clothes too?  How does it compare to you to other clothes washing products?

What do you use to wash and clean?

http://www.maggiespureland.com/


and for your personal hygiene :-\???

    I bought the nuts, but haven't opened the box yet.
Title: Smelly pits
Post by: Permasprout on February 03, 2010, 12:03:33 am
I stopped using all soaps, lotions, shampoos and conditioners almost three weeks ago.I use olive oil (with lavender oil for a nice smell) after my shower for lotion and it works great. Takes a little longer to soak in but my skin is very happy with it.

Been trying not to use antiperspirant as the aluminium freaks me out and I know it clogs things up. I can smell myself though and feel really self-conscious. I don't want to be labled a "dirty hippie".

I'm going to try baking soda and water for my armpits. Do you think there would be a bad reaction if I put a drop of tea tree or orange essential oil in it?

I've tried a few brands of natural deodorants and they just make my armpits feel wet all the time and sometimes make me smell worse.

Anyone notice that they smell better/worse after certain foods? I've been trying to lay off the onions to see if that helps.
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: RawZi on February 03, 2010, 01:46:14 am
    Dry some lemon peel.  Then grind it up.  Try rubbing that on your armpit and see if that helps.  I have not tried it, but I know a lot of people who do.
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: van on February 03, 2010, 03:48:22 am
with baking soda, moisten it and spread it inside arm pit, leave while showering, then rinse off when done.  That's it, don't use as a powder aftershowing.  I bet you'll stop perspiring when you give up cooked food and allow the glands in the arm pits to cleanse themselves by letting them perspire for as long as they need.  I always have wet armpits when I eat cooked food, as well as a smell. 
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: jessica on February 03, 2010, 06:16:26 am

i have a friend who is a bartender who rubs limes in his pits while at work..im not sure that it works perhaps the acid kills some of the offending bacteria? 
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: William on February 03, 2010, 09:18:38 am
Does he then squeeze those limes in someone's drink?

The who eat rzc reek not. We are so holy that some must smoke, lest the halo be apparent.  :D
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: jessica on February 03, 2010, 12:00:42 pm
Does he then squeeze those limes in someone's drink?


i thought about that too haha!
dirty martini

Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: Permasprout on February 04, 2010, 09:49:56 am
What do you all do to clean your ears? I've stopped using q-tips because I've been told that can compact wax in your ear and impair your hearing. I was hoping my hearing would've gotten better but it hasn't. I just feel that wax in my ear. Yuck!

I tried using baking soda yesterday as deodorant and wow! I had been stinky for at least 3 days and was getting desperate enough to use antiperspirant. I just made a paste of baking soda and a few drops of water, spread it on (like I'd use deodorant) and brushed away the excess. I wasn't stinky yesterday or today! And I didn't even put it on today!

Thanks guys!

Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: cherimoya_kid on February 04, 2010, 12:51:55 pm
What do you all do to clean your ears?

My fingernails. LOL 
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: PaleoPhil on February 05, 2010, 07:07:22 am
I used to get chronic wax (cerumen) buildup in my left ear (coincidentally, many of my health issues occurred just or mainly on my left side) and mildly painful tinnitus (and I didn't think that tinnitus could be painful until it happened), but since I went VLC over a year ago I've only had a tiny amount of wax that I helped along with my pinky and the tinnitus is gone. I'm hoping the wax problem is also resolved.

The hair cells (cilia) inside the ear are supposed to move it out on their own, but some people's hair cells get damaged or get overwhelmed by excess wax production and I suspect ear dryness contributes by slowing it down (and dryness likely also contributes to wax buildup, since part of the wax is composed of dead skin) so that the flow of wax out the ear gets bogged down and a buildup occurs. I suspect that modern foods are one of the causes for reasons I won't get into here. This chiropractor also suspects it and cites foods as the primary reason: http://chetday.com/howtotreatearwax.htm (he's not raw Paleo, so I obviously don't agree with him on everything and readers should beware).

Some !Kung San use an extra-long fingernail on their pinky to pick their nose, so I wonder if they use that on their ears as well. When I had the chronic buildup (around every 3-6 months or so) I tried ear drops in my ears overnight and ear drops combined with warm water sprayed from an ear bulb. It got a little out, but it never worked very well, so I went back to using a Q-tip or a bent paper clip despite the warnings.

Ear candling didn't work at all. Someone insistently recommended candling to me, so I gave it a shot, despite being skeptical. It's zero results (as verified before and after by my father with an ear-light) despite carefully following the instructions left me unimpressed. When I quizzed the people who claimed it worked they admitted that they didn't actually have someone look in their ears with a light before and after the candling, so I'm also skeptical that it actually worked for them until they do that (since then I've discovered that these same people also believe every chain-email that gets forwarded to them  -\ ).
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: Permasprout on February 14, 2010, 11:18:08 am
I've been off soap for almost 5 weeks now. I skin brush 2-3 times a week. I've only been showering with water and moisturizing with olive oil. I still feel like I want to scrub my hair and body with something like dirt or a brush. My hair feels less greasy if I comb the roots (upward towards the crown) twice a day. What can I use that won't kill my skin's natural bacteria?

When I feel like I want to break down and use soap, I use Rhassoul clay and apply it as a body mask, letting it dry before I rinse it off. I do this once or twice a week. Lately it seems to irritate my skin a bit.

This week, I am going to try using organic coconut oil and lime juice to see if it makes me smell good and feel clean.

Does anyone have any suggestions for how to clean your body/hair with no water?
Title: Re: Laundry soap, cleaning and personal hygiene
Post by: afroza on February 14, 2010, 04:00:47 pm
I use eggs nowadays for hair, from pasture-fed chickens, and it gives you some of the "clean" feeling you get with schampoo. It even lathers a bit. But you need to rinse with quite a bit of water, cold water.  I have long hair and I wash it once per month. I brush it everyday, that spreads the fat from the skalp evenly in rest of the hair and makes it easy to manage. I always braid my hair, othervise I would not be comfortable with the oily look you get when you don´t wash it oftenly. I never put any other oil in my hair, or on my body, I feel that it makes the skin dry after some time. Just avoiding soap takes care of moisterising skin.
I have never used deodorant or perfumes, can´t stand then, except musk oil wich I find very attractive. Not sure if it is acctually real oil from the musk deer, probably not I´m afraid.
No tothpaste, I brush if I get fuzzy teeth, usually in the evenings. I still use soap (some herbal, coconut stuff) for my armpit, othervise I stink, but I think it might be a problem that will go away after beeing on RAF for some more time. The person I know who have done this the longest (about 5 years), he stank for the first 3 years (detoxing from bad SAD) and is, I would call it, odourless nowadays. No bad breath either. I hope to reach that stage. Don´t mind normal body smell though, kind of like it.
For washing I use the soapnuts that Nicola mentioned earlier, and Raw mentioned Ritha, it´s the same thing (ritha is the name for it here in India and Bhangladesh). It grows where I live, but if I where back in Europe I would prefer to use soft soap from pine trees, or something else local.
In Kashmir I am lucky to have a natural stream just next to our land, with cold glacier water running, and we use it for drinking and bathing. It is rich in bacteria and oh, so tasy.  When here in Goa we suffer with the clorine water like everyone else. We take baths in the ocean though, it is better than the tap water, but I dont like salt water hair so I rinse it in tap water.