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Title: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: Auxaarh on October 22, 2015, 01:12:10 am
My health issues started a few years ago and were brought on during a period of high stress. I have some fatgiue, have to get up to pee at night, ED, underweight, raccoon eyes etc. I had a facial analysis done online and was recommended a paleo diet without nightshades due to possible leaky gut, all food cooked. Then I got gallstones, lost weight and was constipated. I did an olive oil liver cleanse which removed the stones, however I still got discomfort between my belly button and chest, i.e. liver and spleen area after eating. I bought We Want to Live and have switched to a predominantly raw diet for the last few weeks as follows, I have about 2-3 cooked meals per week):
Breakfast: Beef, normally brisket or steak, OR lamb liver or heart Suet Banana Spoon of olive and coconut oil
Lunch and tea: Beef or organs and suet and maybe a little fruit Some cooked starch such as white rice or sweet potato Spoon of olive and coconut oil and sometimes some apple cider vinegar
I saw a clinical homeopath who detected candida in my liver and spleen, which is causing some inflammation. I have some salmonella bacteria and some sort of lactose bacteria (not the good kind) in my gut which causes me to react to eggs and dairy. I have a staph bacteria in my sinus and I get headaches after dairy, raw or not. Egg yolks are ok, I've done Edwin's liver flushes ok, thanks Edwin! The homeopath also detected Coeliac disease in my gut, I have low iron. He gave me remedies to remove these things for the next several months. I have started using a zapper also.
I seem to get a tingling in my feet / legs if I have too much unheated honey and I don't think it's good for the candida so I've stopped the honey.
If I eat much beef, I tend to feel fatigued and I'm sure the darkness under my eyes worsens. I have about 50-100g portions. I don't get any problems when eating organ meat. When eating raw fish, mackeral, this has given my diarrheoa and once I had a discomfort in my liver area and almost vomited, my mouth kept filled with saliva. The saliva smelt of fish. I've had mackeral about 4 times and had negative reactions all but once.
I take 1-2 teaspoons of cayenne with water and have 2 ginger teas per day. This is to help with circulation and to speedhealing. This seems to reduce me needing to get up at night to pee.
I'd like to do a coconut oil detox but don't feel strong enough or have enough weight.
I'm interested to know if my adverse feelings after beef and fish are detox reactions and so actually a good thing or if they're bad. Also any other tips, please, I'd welcome them. I've tried several things to sort out my health and keep going in circles, it's quite depressing actually, up until 3 years ago I ate ok, plenty of rubbish and had next to no health issues, now my health seems as weak as anything :'(
I'm in my mid-30s, male and live in the U.K. I get my meat from a local organic butcher every week. The organs are always fresh, the beef has been hanging for a while. I'm yet to do high meat or have white meat, only beef and lamb and a little mackeral, I'm a little scared. I go to bed at 1030 and the alarm goes off at 6:30, I probably sleep for about 6-7 hours of that time.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: TylerDurden on October 22, 2015, 01:47:15 am
Is the meat 100% grassfed? Do you live in London? If not, where in the UK? Anywhere near the coast?
For the moment I would strongly advise avoiding ALL cooked foods. Newbies to the RPD diet who still eat some cooked foods are seriously retarding their health-recovery. You see, the body needs time to deal with the toxins from cooked foods and expel them from the body via detox etc., and that means the body has fewer resources and time left to actually heal the body.
I would also suggest Intermittent Fasting, which means eating 1 large meal a day within a 4 hour period without consuming anything else except water. Alternate-day fasting where you just eat 1 large meal withina 4 hour period every 48 hours is, imo, even better, if you have the endurance to deal with the fasting days.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: nummi on October 22, 2015, 02:35:56 am
Garlic and cloves for extra help against candida? Though if issues with gut, best not overdo these, as they can irritate (maybe 3 days in a row and then skip another 3?). And if candida issue is big, the candida die-off releases toxins which can make the head ache, cause tummy issues and fatigue, and can make the skin bad. Too much candida-killing foods can this way cause issues, though temporary, but potentially nasty and quite uncomfortable. Cayenne and ginger every day might be a bit too much for the stomach and gut. Maybe skip 3 days after every 3 days, or something like that? These and garlic and cloves best taken on the same days, as they have similar effects.
"Undigestible" carbohydrates like resistant starch, inulin, etc., to help feed beneficial gut bacteria who in turn produce from them fatty acids your gut needs for proper functioning. Raw root vegetables. Simple potato starch the easiest. If potato starch then best to start with small amounts and go gradually bigger over a week or two, otherwise can cause big gas and other discomfort in the beginning. After that gut flora should adjust to manage the increased amount of resistant starch, etc., without issues.
The adverse effects of eating beef and fish (and perhaps suet as well?) might be that at the moment they are a bit too much for your body to handle well. And so... Eggs. Eggs are very easy to digest. Meat, suet (and fish) are harder to digest and so burden the digestive tract more. You could try a few days to a week eating eggs instead of meat and suet. This would mean for the body less time spent on digestion and more spent on healing the digestive tract and thus easier on the whole body. And then start putting back meat and suet.
Maybe extra magnesium? Magnesium chloride or epsom salt. Internally in water solution the quickest, half a teaspoon to a teaspoon in water solution over a day but not all at once, and preferably between meals. Because it is far far too easy to be deficient of it when having a "conventional" diet background and still searching for health. Magnesium perhaps together with some baking soda (bicarbonate a good thing), and a touch of sea salt for better taste?
Sea vegetables for iodine?
Berries, like lingonberries and cranberries and blueberries? Wild ones. And black currants? There are many other berries as well. Cocoa. Easiest would be cocoa powder. Definitely not chocolates (because of what is put into them, unless you can get toxin free ones). They are good in helping the body clean itself. Vitamins and antioxidants and whatever else.
Stinging nettle. Preferably ground, and make some tea or just put into water and eat/drink it. It is rather high in minerals and vitamins. And other green stuff like this.
And drink plenty of water, but between meals so as to not dilute stomach contents too much. Water essential for many things, including carrying out toxins.
Too much honey can raise blood sugar too high, which then can feed candida. Otherwise very good.
Those cooked starches like rice turn quickly into sugar, the kind candida loves. Plus the white rice is almost empty of nutrients and minerals. Nearly same applies to cooked potatoes, but they contain more nutrients and minerals. You could try sprouted wheat or some other sprouted grains or seeds and see how they work? When sprouted, most of the anti-nutrients are broken apart, the locked nutrients and minerals freed, meaning nutritive value is increased quite a bit and the infamous negative effects reduced to nearly zero(?).
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: cherimoya_kid on October 22, 2015, 02:45:13 am
It sounds like you're hypothyroid, have weak adrenals, and deficient in trace minerals in general. Do you eat any shellfish or take a trace mineral supplement? How many times a day do you eat?
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: cherimoya_kid on October 22, 2015, 02:47:21 am
Because of the fatigue and possible adrenal issues, I would not suggest intermittent fasting. I would actually suggest eating at least 3 times daily, or even more if your appetite allows.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: Auxaarh on October 22, 2015, 03:39:15 am
Thanks for the replies, really thanks.
The meat is 100% grassfed. The farm is happily just around the corner from my house. I know the owners quite well now, I go every week. I live in the Midlands, about 1.5 hours from London, not too far.
I think my adrenals are a little weak, better than what they've been previously, my sleep has improved and I get less stressed, but still weak, which may mean IF is a little early. The homeopath has a vega machine and says my adrenals are not too bad.
For starch resistant carbs, is cooked rice which has cooled to being cold ok? I thought it was. I always try to have my rice cold. Also I try to have unripe banana, one per day.
I love eggs, however the Salmonella in my gut gives me some gas when I have them. Shame as I really like them and think they would work very well.
I don't have any fish at the moment, my experience with mackeral has put me off. Any suggestions? I live in the middle of the U.K. making getting a good variety of fresh fish difficult. The mackeral was wild and fresh from a fish mongers.
I'm going to try making some high meat next week, which I'm hoping will help me. Easy to digest.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: Auxaarh on October 22, 2015, 03:43:26 am
For minerals I est organ meat and have a little pink Himalayan crystal salt each day.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: Auxaarh on October 22, 2015, 03:48:59 am
Thinking about it, most if the beef I have is tough, e.G. shin or brisket, more stewing meat. Is this more difficult to digest. It takes more effort to chew compared to sirloin steak for example.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: TylerDurden on October 22, 2015, 04:16:21 am
Being next to London allows one, possibly, to be next to one of the LFM Markets, ie london farmers' markets:-
http://www.lfm.org.uk (http://www.lfm.org.uk)
There one might be able to get hold of raw wild game which is easily superior to raw 100% grassfed meats, which are anyway fed on hay during the winter. In the past, from LFM markets I have managed to get hold of a raw wild hare carcass(=2-3 days of food) for 13 pounds sterling, sometimes as little as 7 pounds sterling.
If muscle-meat is a problem stick to a wide variety of raw organ-meats. Besides, most RVAFers report speedier health-recovery on high quality raw organ-meats as the latter contain far more nutrients per kg by contrast.
If you cannot handle raw wildcaught fish, try raw wildcaught shellfish instead...
If your teeth cannot handle raw muscle-meat, then why not buy raw minced 100% grassfed meat in vacuum-packed form, as that is easier to chew/bolt and a lot less expensive than raw sirloin.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: cherimoya_kid on October 22, 2015, 04:28:40 am
I would recommend eating clams and oysters regularly for a week or two, and see what that does for you.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: Ioanna on October 22, 2015, 08:08:24 pm
Do you have whitebait at the farmers markets? That was my favorite thing to eat in the UK, I wish I could find it here! Very tasty and an easy way to eat the entire fish.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: cherimoya_kid on October 22, 2015, 08:34:21 pm
Do you have whitebait at the farmers markets? That was my favorite thing to eat in the UK, I wish I could find it here! Very tasty and an easy way to eat the entire fish.
I've never had the chance to do that, but it sounds great. I can rarely find fresh, whole small fish here.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: AMA on October 23, 2015, 03:47:27 pm
Hi Auxaarh,
Something which gave me an extra energy burst was juicing. It really helped. I started it before the raw diet and really felt better. I would do more veggies than fruits though. One just needs to find the balance, especially with the sugar content of the fruits and veggies.
I find the recommendations of Stanley Bass also something that worked well. Less food quantity and the Sequential Eating are two of those.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: Auxaarh on October 23, 2015, 08:07:01 pm
Yes, I forgot to say I often have a vegetable based juice in the morning. This morning I had kale, beetroot, ginger and celery juice.
I'm going to try for a more organ based diet, cheaper and more nutrition. Then have muscle meat occasionally. Off to the butchers tonight.
I'm keen to try a hot bath. I've heard Aajonus mention it, but in my copy of WWTL it's not really there. The closest thing I'm aware of is the cold sheet treatment. For the hot bath has anyone here got experience of it?
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: Auxaarh on November 03, 2015, 09:23:19 pm
Because of the fatigue and possible adrenal issues, I would not suggest intermittent fasting. I would actually suggest eating at least 3 times daily, or even more if your appetite allows.
Just a general question which related to this. I'm having red meat (including organs) 3 times a day. Is this safe / recommended?
My wife is concerned, understandably about the diet and the multiple times of meat per day being the big one.
I eat meat with either some veg juice or some fruit and suet 3 times per day. I can't really do dairy or eggs. Shame, love them.
Looking for a good source of shellfish, not easy in the Midlands :-)
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: cherimoya_kid on November 03, 2015, 10:05:10 pm
Just a general question which related to this. I'm having red meat (including organs) 3 times a day. Is this safe / recommended?
My wife is concerned, understandably about the diet and the multiple times of meat per day being the big one.
I eat meat with either some veg juice or some fruit and suet 3 times per day. I can't really do dairy or eggs. Shame, love them.
Looking for a good source of shellfish, not easy in the Midlands :-)
Make sure you are mono-eating the organs without any condiments, totally by themselves. As long as you are doing that you will not overeat them.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: Auxaarh on November 03, 2015, 10:44:39 pm
I have a feeling I'm not mono eating, sorry for the dumb question, but what is mono eating?
For lunch today I had some suet, some lamb and some beef. Then I had a banana.
Should I eat more akin to this: Breakfast: suet / bone marrow Lunch: meat Dinner: salad, veg juice, fruit
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: JeuneKoq on November 03, 2015, 10:57:57 pm
And if you find unseasoned organ meats or other specific food repugnant, try something else instead. Perhaps season vegetables such as parsnip, spinach, all kinds of cabbage (brussels sprouts, cauliflower, red cabbage...), fennel, old varieties of potatoes... Fruits like kakis, apples, peers, kiwis (some variety grow in italy), clementines...Try them unprocessed, so in their raw state, to see how you like them.
I would personally go for European fruits and veggies in priority, native or naturalized, but feel free to try exotic plants and see how they work out for you. My naturopathic doctor advised me to eat proteins at breakfast and lunch, fruits and nuts at "tea time" and "vegetarian" (so veggies and carbs) at dinner.
Of course she assumes that I eat cooked meat, which is why she advised me not to eat some at dinner, as cooked meat takes more time to digest and could cause trouble during sleep. I don't know at what time during the day our ancestors went hunting, or at what time they ate the organs and meat they foraged. It could've varied a lot, or they could've had a certain daily routine regarding which food they went for first. Anyways, the main rule during colder days usually is less fruits, or at least not first thing in the morning, so one meal of fruits at tea time should be enough, unless you feel like you need more.
I agree with CK that you should try and get your hands on sea food. My dad brought me a dozen of fresh oysters from the Netherlands this weekend, and they were lovely ;D! Also I have this hunch that sea food may make up for the lack of insects in the Westerners diet, raw paleo or not. They could have a similar nutritional profile, plus some iodine and salt.
Oh, and mushrooms. They're really abundant now, so try a couple of varieties, see how you like them.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: Auxaarh on November 03, 2015, 11:13:49 pm
Sea food needs to be wild right?
I've had mackeral a few times but didn't get in that great with it. Will give it another go.
Anymore comments about the mono eating would be great please.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: JeuneKoq on November 03, 2015, 11:22:35 pm
mono-eating is eating one type of food at a time, per meal. I guess you can count organ meats as one type of food, as I'm guessing a predator animal would not just eat the liver and leave the rest.
For example, a mono-eating day would be:
-organ meats (of one kind of animal!! not chicken liver mixed with beef liver etc) at breakfast -muscle meat at lunch -kakis at tea time -parsnip at dinner
Some people also decide, when they don't have time to eat four meals a day (stop working so much!) to eat one type of food first, then if they're still hungry, another type of food, in one meal. While respecting some food mixing rules, like proteins first, or avoiding having meat and sweet fruits at the same meal.
eg:
-lunch: organ meats, then spinach, then apples
-diner: sweet potatoes, then aspargus
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: cherimoya_kid on November 03, 2015, 11:26:14 pm
I've had mackeral a few times but didn't get in that great with it. Will give it another go.
Anymore comments about the mono eating would be great please.
Mono-eating means one food at a time, no mixing or condiments, until it stops tasting good to you. Consider different organs to be separate foods.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: Auxaarh on November 04, 2015, 12:13:33 am
Got it, I've been doing it totally wrong, see my meal plan above.
So I could have:
Meal1: heart Meal2: liver Meal3: fruit and veg, items eaten individually before moving onto the next item Meal4: suet Meal5: bone marrow Meal6: lamb meat Meal7: beef meat
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: cherimoya_kid on November 04, 2015, 12:35:21 am
That looks fine. Do you really eat 7 times a day? It's fine if you do, that can be very helpful for people recovering from weakened adrenals.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: Auxaarh on November 04, 2015, 12:40:42 am
Thanks for reply. I don't have that many meals a day, just a way to differentiate between possible meals, so if someone replied saying that meal x isn't mono, or you could combine meals x and y and that would still be mono etc.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: cherimoya_kid on November 04, 2015, 01:35:26 am
It's fine to eat one organ after another at the same meal. Usually you should start with the strongest-tasting and most nutritious ones first, so maybe liver, then bone marrow, then heart, then muscle meat, in that order, pretty much.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: TylerDurden on November 04, 2015, 02:22:52 am
While I usually did mono-eating in the past, I am a bit surprised to find that Intermittent Fasting is not recommended for weakened adrenals. I suppose I must be the odd-one-out then, since I did a lot better on Intermittent Fasting despite my previous extensive hormonal problems re adrenal/thyroid.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: JeuneKoq on November 04, 2015, 02:23:31 am
Thanks for reply. I don't have that many meals a day, just a way to differentiate between possible meals, so if someone replied saying that meal x isn't mono, or you could combine meals x and y and that would still be mono etc.
Well technically meal 3 isn't mono. Doesn't mean its unhealthy or anything. "Mono" is a prefix that is translated to "only, unique" from ancient Greek, so it literally means "eating only (this or that)". Be aware that there are some vegetables that don't mix well with certain fruits. And aqueous fruits such as watermelons and melons should be eaten alone, or at least thirty minutes before anything else. It isn't in season anyways.
How many meals do you have per day?
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: cherimoya_kid on November 04, 2015, 02:42:51 am
While I usually did mono-eating in the past, I am a bit surprised to find that Intermittent Fasting is not recommended for weakened adrenals. I suppose I must be the odd-one-out then, since I did a lot better on Intermittent Fasting despite my previous extensive hormonal problems re adrenal/thyroid.
It's why Yuri failed, he was living a very active lifestyle, and he wasn't eating often enough to keep up with it. He had an adrenal crash.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: Auxaarh on November 04, 2015, 03:32:27 am
I have 3 meals per day and have a teaspoon of honey with each one. Don't seem to tolerate much more than that.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: Auxaarh on November 04, 2015, 04:34:13 am
How about vegetable juice and then a banana. Would that be a mono meal?
Would be a quick and simple breakfast.
How about avocado and less fatty fruits / vegetables?
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: cherimoya_kid on November 04, 2015, 04:39:20 am
How about vegetable juice and then a banana. Would that be a mono meal?
Would be a quick and simple breakfast.
How about avocado and less fatty fruits / vegetables?
If the veggie juice is just one veggie, or one type of juice at a time, then yes, that would be mono.
I like avos, I eat 1-2 a day on average, although I have a few days from time to time where I don't want them. Some people find they sap your energy. You just have to see what a food does to your body, because everyone's body is different.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: JeuneKoq on November 04, 2015, 04:55:38 am
If the veggie juice is just one veggie, or one type of juice at a time, then yes, that would be mono.
Depends if you're mono-eating or mono-drinking ;)
In mono-eating you're supposed to eat the foods in their whole, raw state, so your body is able to tell from various indicators, including the examination of the flesh and skin of the plant, if you've had enough of it or not. Juicing fruits and vegetables also removes certain nutrients found in the pulp and flesh, and increases sugar content, like in orange juice.
So no, vegetable juice and a banana is not a mono-meal. It can be considered a "raw paleo" meal, but the term "mono-eating" strictly describes eating one kind of food per meal.
Sweet foods in the morning is ill-advised in the case of chronic fatigue. Even fruits. Avocado is fine.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: Auxaarh on November 04, 2015, 04:09:58 pm
Oh, didn't realise that about sweet foods in the morning.
I don't juice fruit, just veg. Recently I had a beetroot, kale, celery, carrot and ginger juice. Although will not have this, or not in the morning. Even juicing should be one type of veg at a time for mono?
What food is best for breakfast? Protein? Is juice better in the evening? Sorry for dumb questions...
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: JeuneKoq on November 04, 2015, 05:33:28 pm
I don't juice fruit, just veg. Recently I had a beetroot, kale, celery, carrot and ginger juice. Although will not have this, or not in the morning. Even juicing should be one type of veg at a time for mono?
What food is best for breakfast? Protein? Is juice better in the evening? Sorry for dumb questions...
If you read carefully what people have posted above, and learn to read between the lines, you'll avoid asking some of those questions of yours...
Juicing is a form of processing that is usually forbidden in a mono-eating diet. The point of a mono diet is to be able to clearly recognize the body signals that tells the person when it has satisfied the need for a particular food. Processing, seasoning, mixing, and cooking food prevents the clear reading by your body of such signals, and can lead to overeating, or eating useless, even harmful foods.
Juicing is allowed in the Raw Paleo Diet. It is not recommended when doing a strict mono-diet.
If you find that juicing does you good, there's no particular reason to stop doing it. You're just not eating mono.
Vegetable juice is fine at any time of the day. Only fruit juice is not recommended in the morning, especially when you already have low energy, and especially not in late fall/winter.
Protein in the morning is fine. It's even recommended. I would probably start with organ meat, but muscle is fine.
Plenty of info on the mono-diet in the anopsology/instincto section of the forum.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: Auxaarh on November 04, 2015, 07:37:34 pm
Thanks. I get the issues with juicing, I'll see if I find it beneficial or not. I have a glass a day at most, I'm not a heavy juice drinker. My fruit is limited to a banana early in the day and then maybe some grapes or oranges toward the end of the day. It's my way of getting some carbs, vitamin c and sodium. And to help my bowels move.
May start off with meat for breakfast, then suet / marrow for lunch then a light carb meal for dinner and see how I get on.
I'm asking maybe more questions than necessary as I'm new and would rather learn from everyone else's experience. Apologies if it's annoying at times, I'm keen to improve my health, I seem to have tried loads of stuff which hasn't done a great deal over the last couple of years.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: JeuneKoq on November 04, 2015, 08:49:04 pm
I'm asking maybe more questions than necessary as I'm new and would rather learn from everyone else's experience. Apologies if it's annoying at times, I'm keen to improve my health, I seem to have tried loads of stuff which hasn't done a great deal over the last couple of years.
Haha no worries :) It's better to check out available info on a specific diet in the forum's archives, and then ask questions afterwards, if you still have some. I assumed you already done some research, which is why I found your questions re juicing a bit out of place.
If you're interested in mono-eating and the anapsology diet, you should mail Iguana and ask him for a free pdf of "Anapsology: a very new approach to Human Health" by Guy-Claude Burger. It's a good place to start.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: TylerDurden on November 05, 2015, 12:01:32 am
Juicing is fine on a RVAF diet, juicing is, however not palaeo, so does not belong to a rawpalaeodiet per se.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: Ioanna on November 10, 2015, 08:24:51 am
TD, GS, and CK are like saints! I have observed them nearly DAILY for YEARS answer the same kinds of questions with great patience and detail as if it's the first time all over again.
More seasoned members, please consider following this kind of leadership when posting from knowledge and experience in order to offer a more welcoming and safe environment for newbies who may well be in a great need for your help.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: cherimoya_kid on November 10, 2015, 10:24:35 am
TD, GS, and CK are like saints! I have observed them nearly DAILY for YEARS answer the same kinds of questions with great patience and detail as if it's the first time all over again.
More seasoned members, please consider following this kind of leadership when posting from knowledge and experience in order to offer a more welcoming and safe environment for newbies who may well be in a great need for your help.
If I do a good job with new member questions, it's just enlightened self-interest. I try to make this a forum that's not too forbidding for new members, because you never know when a new member might have some knowledge or personal experience that is useful for everyone. Yuri's experience with adrenal failure was a valuable teaching tool. Whoever mentioned the Gokhale method did me a world of good, etc.. I give so that I might get.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: JeuneKoq on November 11, 2015, 12:43:30 am
TD, GS, and CK are like saints! I have observed them nearly DAILY for YEARS answer the same kinds of questions with great patience and detail as if it's the first time all over again.
More seasoned members, please consider following this kind of leadership when posting from knowledge and experience in order to offer a more welcoming and safe environment for newbies who may well be in a great need for your help.
I apologize for my unpleasant attitude when responding to Auxaarh. It wasn't fair, especially towards a guy in his situation. I have been feeling nervous and easily irritated lately, nothing against Auxaarh. In all honesty, I shouldn't even be giving health advices, since all I say comes from knowledge/theory , and almost zero from experience. I'm not on any type of raw diet, even less mono-diet. I eat raw meats every now and then (1/2 times), and raw F&V, but probably between 40 to 60%.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: Auxaarh on November 18, 2015, 07:33:38 pm
My health seems to be up and down. A week ago I felt quite a bit better, this past week iive been feeling rather weak. Don't think anything's changed diet wise. Will carry on, hope I'm going to get back to where I was a week or so ago.
My current diet is as follows:
B: muscle meat L: Organ meat D: Bone marrow or suet
Occasionally have some veg juice or fruit, say every other day.
I'm able to eat more meat now without the negative reactions. I find I can get a little constipation so am taking herbal formula for it, it's Dr Schultz's intestinal #1 product for those familiar with it.
I'm struggling to find a source for shell fish and haven't yet worked up the courage to try fish again yet.
I tried an avocado recently and it gave me some gallbladder pain I'm sure. Will be going for the egg yolk liver cleanse.
I have some ACV before each meal with olive oil and coconut oil.
Just to keep you updated.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: piper on November 21, 2015, 07:15:02 pm
Hello, Auxaarh!
I feel your situation, cause i was/i am in similar situations to yours. I had good health before i started paleo, and i started because of new information and my consciousness. In the start of the diet i had few improvements, but after that, everything started falling apart. I tried thousands of different diet combinations and programs, from fully raw, to semi cooked, fully cooked and over and over again. What was my result? Fully fucked up skin, acne, zits, constant fatigue, depression, i was skinny, mental tasks were like mission impossible, no will to do anything. In the diet period, i started developing that strange boils, full of pussy, which would sit for like a month. Nice, yes? And i was like "paleo raw low carb" craze. Next thing was thickening of my bill. In that time, i was extremely low carb and high fat. I knew that i am fucking myself up, but all i understood was that "carbs are bad" and i kept going. What was the next thing? My glucose and cholesterol levels started to grow. "oh, well, this isn't going anywhere". I looked like shit. Felt like shit. No will to do anything. I had most symptoms like you stated. And i still have some of them, that irregular pain around liver/rib area, raccoon eyes and etc.
But most of the things have changed. My acne reduced dramatically, my chest is free, my back is almost free, my forehead is still inflamed, but there are lot's of reduction, most of what is left are scars, but i still have lots of zits on it. My face skin improved a lot, few pimples here ant there, nothing much. My overall health improved beyond recognition, i think i am near that situation before i started this diet. I am feeling alive again and i can't describe that happiness. I gained some weight and i am very proud of that. So, maybe you're wondering, what things led me to this change? Very simple - carbs. That was root of my problems. Lack of simple fucking carbs. Too little to no carbs and only 2 meals per day. It had very negative effect to my health. So, i suggest to rethink youR carb intake. :)
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: Auxaarh on November 23, 2015, 04:57:17 am
Thanks Piper. I like carbs and need to get that correct in my diet, it's not there. I'm playing around with quite a few things, have sourced good meat and figured out which meat I get on well with eating, this has taken a few weeks.
What carbs work for you?
Has it sorted out your dark circle eyes? Not sure from your post. Thanks
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: piper on December 07, 2015, 09:05:06 pm
Sorry for taking so long. Basically i am using fruits and some bread, sometimes few sweets. But i have to watch amount of carbs i am using, because if i use to much - bam, i am out! Lethargic, apathic, tired, spaced out and depressed. These things started when i entered keto and when i tried to reintroduce carbs. So you have to increase your carbs, but do it very subtly. Fuck it, it's very annoying. And about raccoon eyes - no, they still there. And i don't know what to do with them, because it makes me very unattractive. :/
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: cherimoya_kid on December 07, 2015, 09:42:24 pm
Try getting rid off the bread for a week. That might be the cause of those dark circles around your eyes.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: piper on December 07, 2015, 10:08:03 pm
No, it's not. Because i started using bread about month ago. They appeared the same time i went on raw/paleo/keto and it was 4-5 years ago.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: cherimoya_kid on December 08, 2015, 03:49:47 am
How is the quality of your sleep? My dark circles mostly went away went I started taking vitamin D, because I slept a lot better.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: Auxaarh on December 08, 2015, 08:49:03 pm
I occasionally have some cooked white rice. Occasionally. Once maybe twice a week.
I have some stomach soreness, to touch, which I'm 99% is due to h pylori. Therefore I've upped my juicing to have some cabbage and celery juice each day.
My stool does smell of meat. I have a feeling the h pylori is what's causing me to be stomach touch sensitive and is reducing the quality of my digestion, causing smelly stool and possibly the racoon eyes and even poor sleep.
I know Aajonus recommended cabbage juice for people with leaky gut, does anyone know what the protocol for it is? I'm having 100ml, about half a cabbage with some celery sticks and then some cilantro, kale and parsley too. Then about twice the amount of water to dilute it a bit.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: cherimoya_kid on December 08, 2015, 11:51:50 pm
Have you tried high meat?
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: Auxaarh on December 09, 2015, 06:04:43 am
No, not yet. I'm a little scared to be honest.
I have been making some for the last few weeks. It stinks so bad. It's in a Mason jar.
Is there anything that can go wrong when making it? It should be ready to eat by now. I've been airing it every few days.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: TylerDurden on December 09, 2015, 06:10:37 am
One can forget to air it often enough. I always made a rule of airing it once every day for best effect. I have also found that if the high-meat is temporarily frozen or made too dry that the beneficial effect also disappears.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: cherimoya_kid on December 09, 2015, 08:05:29 am
Air it at least once a day. Honestly, if you forget for a couple of days, it's no big deal. Just air it in the fridge for a couple hours a day for the next 3 days or so and it should be fine.
Let's be clear, it needs to be truly grassfed AND grass-finished to be most helpful.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: Auxaarh on December 09, 2015, 06:56:48 pm
The meat is grass fed and finished as well as being organic. And local, minutes drive from my house.
I think the longest I've gone without airing it is about 5 days. Is this a problem?
If there's any risk of anything going wrong I'd rather just start again.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: cherimoya_kid on December 09, 2015, 08:20:54 pm
The meat is grass fed and finished as well as being organic. And local, minutes drive from my house.
I think the longest I've gone without airing it is about 5 days. Is this a problem?
If there's any risk of anything going wrong I'd rather just start again.
5 days is about the longest I would go. It's probably safe, but with any high meat/fish you should eat tiny pieces first to see how you react.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: ciervo-chaman on December 10, 2015, 01:40:53 am
I have forget my high meat for 3-4 weeks after it was being done for many months airing it regularly (every 4-7 days), and nothing bad happened. It smells really good to me. Like cooked meat with cheese and some others tones of flavors
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: Ioanna on December 14, 2015, 07:48:38 am
I have forget my high meat for 3-4 weeks after it was being done for many months airing it regularly (every 4-7 days), and nothing bad happened. It smells really good to me. Like cooked meat with cheese and some others tones of flavors
Perhaps this wasn't really air tight? Otherwise (from personal experience) I would expect the smell to be quite revolting and for good reason.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: cherimoya_kid on December 14, 2015, 08:12:41 am
Perhaps this wasn't really air tight? Otherwise (from personal experience) I would expect the smell to be quite revolting and for good reason.
Either not airtight, or not very moist. Although I've had even very old high fish/meat to sometimes be fairly mild. Ferments are not totally predictable.
Title: Re: Low energy, ED, underweight, candida... A raw newbie
Post by: ciervo-chaman on December 16, 2015, 07:05:55 am
You are rigth the jars are not definitely air tight. That saved my high meat from turning bad or toxic?
Yes, although toxic is relative. An Inuit living in northern Alaska in the winter is going to have a MUCH higher tolerance for the histamines, etc. in high meat/fish than someone who lives their whole life in a tropical area without high meat. Genetics and enviroment both play a role.