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Title: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: nicolegreen on January 24, 2010, 11:51:51 am
Hello all. I'm new to the forum! Just wanted to say hi.
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: TylerDurden on January 24, 2010, 07:02:21 pm
Welcome to the forum!
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: cherimoya_kid on January 25, 2010, 10:15:37 am
Yes, welcome! :)
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: goodsamaritan on January 25, 2010, 10:31:45 am
Hello all. I'm new to the forum! Just wanted to say hi.

Hi Nicole.  What brings you to try raw paleo?
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: nicolegreen on January 25, 2010, 09:00:49 pm
Hi Nicole.  What brings you to try raw paleo?

Well, about 2 years ago I was about 70 lbs over weight, vegan, had tons of adult acne, and assumed that I had been practicing the healthiest lifestyle possible. I should also mention that I was diagnosed at a very early age with childhood diabetes and had assumed that this would be something that I would carry around for life. A friend of mine who was at the time was a crossfit instructor introduced me to paleo nutrition and Zone dieting. Within 2 months I dropped nearly 20 lbs and I stopped taking all diabetes medication. I started experimenting in raw about a year ago and now taking my diet to 100% raw I thought that it would be a great idea to join a board like this because I actually don't know anyone besides people who are vegan/vegetarians who eat raw foods. I've had a hard time convincing my family that what I'm doing is healthy for me and sometimes feel uneducated on the subject when I get into debates with my mother in law and parents on nutrition. My husband has always stuck by me and first hand seen the transformation that I went through in the past few years. I'm really excited to see how 100% raw is going to effect me  :D
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: Hannibal on January 25, 2010, 09:17:27 pm
Have you tried raw meat?
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: goodsamaritan on January 25, 2010, 10:06:44 pm
You are probably going to get even prettier, sexier, with a beautiful glow your husband will be all over you. 
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: nicolegreen on January 26, 2010, 01:31:32 am
Have you tried raw meat?

Oh yes, for well over a year now. I haven't taken the plunge with high meat yet just because I'm a bit of a sissy. I've been around 70% raw for around a year now but I'm just now switching over to 100% raw because I'm noticing more and more being intolerable to cooked foods.
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: RawZi on January 26, 2010, 01:42:54 am
2 years ago I was about 70 lbs over weight, vegan, had tons of adult acne, and assumed that I had been practicing the healthiest lifestyle possible. I should also mention that I was diagnosed at a very early age with childhood diabetes and ...instructor introduced me to paleo nutrition ... Within 2 months I dropped nearly 20 lbs and I stopped taking all diabetes medication. ... great idea to join a board like this because I actually don't know anyone besides people who are vegan/vegetarians who eat raw foods. I've had a hard time convincing my family that what I'm doing is healthy for me ... husband has always stuck by me and first hand seen the transformation that I went through

    I'm so glad you're here.  It's great to have lots of support that a group can give.
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: Hannibal on January 26, 2010, 02:42:32 am
Oh yes, for well over a year now. I haven't taken the plunge with high meat yet just because I'm a bit of a sissy. I've been around 70% raw for around a year now but I'm just now switching over to 100% raw because I'm noticing more and more being intolerable to cooked foods. 
All kinds of organ-meats as well? Suet, bone marrow? Fish, shellfish?
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Post by: nicolegreen on January 26, 2010, 04:19:52 am
All kinds of organ-meats as well? Suet, bone marrow? Fish, shellfish?

Marrow yes, random bits of organ meats here and there. I haven't been able to find many organ meats other then china town in Philadelphia and most of the time they are questionable in terms of quality. Liver is easy to come by though and I always have on hand because my dogs eat raw also. I noticed liver makes me feel amazing the next morning when I get up, its so easy to jump out of bed no matter what time it is. I eat raw fish a lot but I'm still trying to get used to eating raw fish with bones. Shrimp is easy to come by and always a favorite snack of mine so now I constantly keep some on had. I tried scallops for the first time yesterday and was blown away by how good they are! Still haven't tried a lot of shellfish other then just blue claw crab, what would you recommend? Is there anything that should be looked for when your purchasing them?
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: Hannibal on January 26, 2010, 04:46:00 am
Still haven't tried a lot of shellfish other then just blue claw crab, what would you recommend?
I haven't eaten much of them. I eat regularly fatty fish, such as mackerel, sardines, anchois.
I eat lots of organ-meats - lamb hearts, tongues, liver, kidneys, spleen, eyeballs, testicles, veal brain.
I like horse meat, venison, goat meat.
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: RawZi on January 26, 2010, 04:49:47 am
I eat lots of organ-meats - lamb hearts, tongues, liver, kidneys, spleen, eyeballs, testicles, veal brain.

    How do you recommend getting eyeballs?
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Post by: Hannibal on January 26, 2010, 05:03:33 am
How do you recommend getting eyeballs?
It's not easy to buy them. Once I got about 30 small lamb eyeballs and I was really happy. :)
Besides I always eat them when I eat fish.
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: RawZi on January 26, 2010, 05:27:29 am
It's not easy to buy them. Once I got about 30 small lamb eyeballs and I was really happy. :)
Besides I always eat them when I eat fish.

    Thank you.  I know when they are slaughtering grass grazed animals around here in a few months.  I will have to get the eyeballs.  They probably haven't promised them to anyone. 

    What other eyeballs are good beside lamb and fish?  I assume they're all good.  Do you know a place to find more dietary info on them?
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: TylerDurden on January 26, 2010, 05:35:30 am
Raw wildcaught oysters are a good option re shellfish. raw mussels are to be avoided until you're well into this sort of diet as their taste is very sharp. raw lobster if you can afford it is good(they refuse to sell it raw and dead, though, only live and raw or cooked and dead).
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: Hannibal on January 26, 2010, 05:47:57 am
Do you know a place to find more dietary info on them?
No, I don't. On Weston Price site there was some article amout eating eyeballs, but I don't know where it was.
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: TylerDurden on January 26, 2010, 05:51:31 am
No, I don't. On Weston Price site there was some article amout eating eyeballs, but I don't know where it was.
I still have yet to try raw intestines and raw eyeballs. can't get them in the UK, and don't want to rock the boat by seeming odd to my farmers re asking them for some.
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: Hannibal on January 26, 2010, 06:04:15 am
 I still have yet to try raw intestines and raw eyeballs.
Raw mackerel intestines aren't tasty. I don't think that lamb ones are so much different. 
But the eyeballs are quite good - I suck the ink-like liquid that is inside the eye membrane.  
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: roony on January 27, 2010, 05:17:21 am
Liver, kidneys, taste amazing with spices, or a spicy marinade ... makes muscle meats taste so bland in comparison


Liver is very addictive even raw
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: Hannibal on January 27, 2010, 05:36:27 am
Liver, kidneys, taste amazing with spices, or a spicy marinade ... makes muscle meats taste so bland in comparison
I eat them without any spices - they would definitely worsen their taste.
Muscle meats aren't bland for me, as I always age them 1-6 weeks. 1-week-old venison is delicious, 3-weeks-old horse meat is fantastic, but when it gets older (up to 6 weeks) it becomes more of the delicacy :)
I eat fresh muscle-meats very rarely.
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: TylerDurden on January 27, 2010, 05:38:46 am
I eat them without any spices - they would definitely worsen their taste.
Muscle meats aren't bland for me, as I always age them 1-6 weeks. 1-week-old venison is delicious, 3-weeks-old horse meat is fantastic, but when it gets older (up to 6 weeks) it becomes more of the delicacy :)
I eat fresh muscle-meats very rarely.
I would love to do that, but there are issues with smells, I don't want to gross out other non-rawists who visit. Ideally, of course, we should all mostly eat aged raw meats not fresh raw meats as that would have been the case, IMO, in palaeo times.
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: roony on January 27, 2010, 05:42:44 am
I eat them without any spices - they would definitely worsen their taste.
Muscle meats aren't bland for me, as I always age them 1-6 weeks. 1-week-old venison is delicious, 3-weeks-old horse meat is fantastic, but when it gets older (up to 6 weeks) it becomes more of the delicacy :)
I eat fresh muscle-meats very rarely.

If you're tastebuds are still attuned to the narrow nutrition of cooked foods, spiced livers & kidneys taste amazing

Right now even thinking of eating kidneys without spices makes me gag, they smell awful lol


So far over a month old, aged meat doesnt taste that much different from fresh, if anything it tastes more bland .... lol
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: Hannibal on January 27, 2010, 05:48:07 am
@Tyler
Yeah, that's really a problem. But horse meat even when month-old isn't very smelly - I eat it in my room and my parents don't feel any strong smell. But testicles after 5 days could be so smelly that my parents would not be happy. ;)
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: Hannibal on January 27, 2010, 05:51:57 am
Right now even thinking of eating kidneys without spices makes me gag, they smell awful lol
Lamb ones are really toothsome. But some pork ones could be really bad.
So far over a month old, aged meat doesnt taste that much different from fresh, if anything it tastes more bland .... lol
Have you tried aged horse-meat? That's really delicious. Sometimes I gorge it like a wild animal. ;)
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: roony on January 27, 2010, 06:05:26 am
Lamb ones are really toothsome. But some pork ones could be really bad. Have you tried aged horse-meat? That's really delicious. Sometimes I gorge it like a wild animal. ;)

mmm ... dmmit i cant be bothered finding a supplier, so much stuff to research ... any suppliers in the u.k? lol
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: TylerDurden on January 27, 2010, 06:11:30 am
mmm ... dmmit i cant be bothered finding a supplier, so much stuff to research ... any suppliers in the u.k? lol
Horsemeat is illegal re sale in the UK. A few French etc. restaurants in London offer it because they specially import it from abroad, but that's about it. If you want raw horsemeat go to France or Italy where they still have specialist horsemeat-butchers around.
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: roony on January 27, 2010, 06:19:27 am
Horsemeat is illegal re sale in the UK. A few French etc. restaurants in London offer it because they specially import it from abroad, but that's about it. If you want raw horsemeat go to France or Italy where they still have specialist horsemeat-butchers around.

Dmmit ...


I feel like i need muscle meats, simply eating organs doesnt seem to work as well as with muscle meats ...
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: RawZi on January 27, 2010, 06:37:53 am
If you're tastebuds are still attuned to the narrow nutrition of cooked foods, spiced livers & kidneys taste amazing

    Are you talking to nicole or Hannibal or about yourself.  You keep saying "you" roony.  I'm sorry, but it's easier if things aren't implied, but we make our sentences clearly worded.  Nicole has been eating raw meat for a year and Hannibal eats many kinds of aged meats with nothing added.  When did you start eating raw meat?  Me, I've never gotten nutrition out of cooked meat.  I did chew a lot and get some down my throat, but no help came of that.  My neighbor served me raw beef kidneys the other day cut into big hunks with no spice nor sauce.  It was hard to get down my throat during pleasant conversation as the chunks were so big, but otherwise it was delicious and felt great.

    Although I usually eat raw liver plain (so sweet and smooth :P), I have afterward tried it a little spiced.  That was very tasty too.  I could eat it plain day after day.  With spice, that doesn't feel good to my body.
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: nicolegreen on January 27, 2010, 06:53:47 am
I, personally, started eating raw meats a little more then a year ago but up until this past month haven't tried cutting all cooked out of my diet.

Liver is sweet, its a substitute of my long love addiction to candy.HA
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: RawZi on January 27, 2010, 06:57:16 am
I, personally, started eating raw meats a little more then a year ago but up until this past month haven't tried cutting all cooked out of my diet.

    Do you find spices to be hindrence and/or help?  I heard cinnamon lowers blood glucose to better levels, and I read and also personally experienced cayenne harming my thryroid/thyroid hormones etc.

    I would think, that with diabetes, you might find raw pancreas and raw kidney to be good foods.  Have you tried them?  To me, pancreas tastes similar to raw liver but different texture.  To me, old kidneys taste like urine, they have to be fresh.
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: nicolegreen on January 27, 2010, 07:08:13 am
My only problem is locating organ meat. Liver is simple to come by but other then the oriental markets in center city, I can't find anything, and unfortunately I don't trust the quality of product there. I would do mail order, but I don't know who to order from. I'm very limited on traveling outside of the city (Philadelphia) to obtain food.

I don't normally use spices just because I love the taste of meat raw. I'm pretty open to tasting just about everything until it comes to high meat, then I get a little freaked out. I still haven't overcome my fear of throwing everything up after or while I eat it. I have a ton of cinnamon in the house and a bunch of organic pears... hummmm maybe desert tonight? I wouldn't know where to start in terms of paring meat and cinnamon. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: RawZi on January 27, 2010, 08:07:50 am
    There's lots of mail order grassfed meat in PA.  Maybe start by looking on EatWild.com or RawMilk.com click "where".  I would think you could get pancreas there.  Call around or email who you find if you can't get out to the country.  Explain a little of your situation, I'm sure you can find something.

    Do you feel you need highmeats?  Maybe you don't.  I don't believe everyone is the same as the next person.  Highmeats make me feel good though.  I would recommend to only eat it a little fermented the first time, and little by little try more aged, if you want.

    I started you off with a recipe by private message.  It's my friend's and they sell recipe books, so I don't know if I should write out the recipe here.

I would do mail order, but I don't know who to order from. I'm very limited on traveling outside of the city (Philadelphia) to obtain food.

... I'm pretty open to tasting just about everything until it comes to high meat, then I get a little freaked out. I still haven't overcome my fear of throwing everything up after or while I eat it. I have a ton of cinnamon in the house and a bunch of organic pears... hummmm maybe desert tonight?
Title: Re: Hi, new to the forum
Post by: nicolegreen on January 27, 2010, 11:00:01 am
   

    I started you off with a recipe by private message.  It's my friend's and they sell recipe books, so I don't know if I should write out the recipe here.


Thank you so much! This is going to be my weekend project  :D