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Title: The Inuit diet - detoxing or not?
Post by: Kokki on February 06, 2010, 08:51:24 pm
Aajonus has developed his diet especially for cleansing. He claims that food like veg juices, butter and honey, are the optimal foods for that purpose. For example, what makes the butter so special, if we compare it to seal blubber? Nutrients or X-factor? Better absorption?

I`m not saying that there´s nothing "wrong" in his ideology. What`s your opinion:

Are those foods more valuable for detoxing, cleansing and healing than foods used by traditional Inuit? Should I be diamond-eye healthy that I can digest whale blubber, or seal meat?

Maybe some day I´ll try the Inuit diet..  ;)
Title: Re: The Inuit diet - detoxing or not?
Post by: TylerDurden on February 06, 2010, 08:57:07 pm
Well, I would suggest moving to the Arctic where there's more opportunity re getting hold of raw whale blubber etc. But seriously, you should be fine with a rawpalaeodiet of grassfed meats, fruit etc.
Title: Re: The Inuit diet - detoxing or not?
Post by: Kokki on February 06, 2010, 09:00:57 pm
Well, I would suggest moving to the Arctic where there's more opportunity re getting hold of raw whale blubber etc.

That´s my goal.  :)
Title: Re: The Inuit diet - detoxing or not?
Post by: PaleoPhil on February 06, 2010, 10:46:39 pm
Aajonus has developed his diet especially for cleansing. He claims that food like veg juices, butter and honey, are the optimal foods for that purpose. For example, what makes the butter so special, if we compare it to seal blubber? Nutrients or X-factor? Better absorption?...
I guess it depends on what he says "cleansing" is. If we know what he means by cleansing then we could try to figure out which foods would promote his idea of cleansing and how/why.
Title: Re: The Inuit diet - detoxing or not?
Post by: roony on February 07, 2010, 02:10:25 am
Aajonus has developed his diet especially for cleansing. He claims that food like veg juices, butter and honey, are the optimal foods for that purpose. For example, what makes the butter so special, if we compare it to seal blubber? Nutrients or X-factor? Better absorption?

I`m not saying that there´s nothing "wrong" in his ideology. What`s your opinion:

Are those foods more valuable for detoxing, cleansing and healing than foods used by traditional Inuit? Should I be diamond-eye healthy that I can digest whale blubber, or seal meat?

Maybe some day I´ll try the Inuit diet..  ;)

lol theres no such thing as xfactor, its simply grass fed butter beef etc.,
Title: Re: The Inuit diet - detoxing or not?
Post by: cherimoya_kid on February 07, 2010, 06:06:11 am
lol theres no such thing as xfactor

Yes there is.  It's Vitamin K-2.
www.westonaprice.org/On-the-Trail-of-the-Elusive-X-Factor-A-Sixty-Two-Year-Old-Mystery-Finally-Solved.html (http://www.westonaprice.org/On-the-Trail-of-the-Elusive-X-Factor-A-Sixty-Two-Year-Old-Mystery-Finally-Solved.html)


Title: Re: The Inuit diet - detoxing or not?
Post by: roony on February 07, 2010, 07:20:56 am
Yes there is.  It's Vitamin K-2.
www.westonaprice.org/On-the-Trail-of-the-Elusive-X-Factor-A-Sixty-Two-Year-Old-Mystery-Finally-Solved.html (http://www.westonaprice.org/On-the-Trail-of-the-Elusive-X-Factor-A-Sixty-Two-Year-Old-Mystery-Finally-Solved.html)




lol
Title: Re: The Inuit diet - detoxing or not?
Post by: cherimoya_kid on February 07, 2010, 08:14:45 am
lol

I'm not sure I understand your response.
Title: Re: The Inuit diet - detoxing or not?
Post by: roony on February 07, 2010, 08:36:00 am
I'm not sure I understand your response.

I really dont see the point in isolating something like vitamin k or activator x, its a result of grass fed substances, its the fact theyre reared naturally is important, trying to attribute it to vitamin k or activator x, or some other fictional vitamin, is ludicrous

Ultimately its the environment responsible for the creation of vitamin k, ie the grass, why dont we market the grass responsible for creating the vitamin k & call it vitamin J, & market that to cows & farmers ...

lol the supplement industry is insane ....
Title: Re: The Inuit diet - detoxing or not?
Post by: cherimoya_kid on February 07, 2010, 08:42:03 am
I really dont see the point in isolating something like vitamin k or activator x, its a result of grass fed substances, its the fact theyre reared naturally is important, trying to attribute it to vitamin k or activator x, or some other fictional vitamin, is ludicrous

Ultimately its the environment responsible for the creation of vitamin k, ie the grass, why dont we market the grass responsible for creating the vitamin k & call it vitamin J, & market that to cows & farmers ...

lol the supplement industry is insane ....

I don't have the time for hours of daily sunbathing, nor do I live in a place where that's even an option during the winter.  I think I'm better off taking my softgel than I would be using a tanning bed.
Title: Re: The Inuit diet - detoxing or not?
Post by: roony on February 07, 2010, 09:16:26 am
I don't have the time for hours of daily sunbathing, nor do I live in a place where that's even an option during the winter.  I think I'm better off taking my softgel than I would be using a tanning bed.

You can get all your vitamin d from raw foods ... the vitamin d from supplements is nowhere near as effective as raw food
Title: Re: The Inuit diet - detoxing or not?
Post by: cherimoya_kid on February 07, 2010, 10:57:57 am
You can get all your vitamin d from raw foods ... the vitamin d from supplements is nowhere near as effective as raw food

I tried that. It didn't work.  I used to eat tons of shrimp, but that didn't get the job done. Besides, I'm allergic to shrimp now.  I average about 3000-5000 IU daily of D-3.  I don't know of many foods that have that much Vitamin D-3.
Title: Re: The Inuit diet - detoxing or not?
Post by: chucky on February 07, 2010, 03:23:24 pm
I tried that. It didn't work.  I used to eat tons of shrimp, but that didn't get the job done. Besides, I'm allergic to shrimp now.  I average about 3000-5000 IU daily of D-3.  I don't know of many foods that have that much Vitamin D-3.

Eat a herring a day for 5000 IU
Title: Re: The Inuit diet - detoxing or not?
Post by: roony on February 07, 2010, 04:07:29 pm
I tried that. It didn't work.  I used to eat tons of shrimp, but that didn't get the job done. Besides, I'm allergic to shrimp now.  I average about 3000-5000 IU daily of D-3.  I don't know of many foods that have that much Vitamin D-3.

Eat a herring a day for 5000 IU

Theres also the origin of the vitamin d in the softgels you're consuming, & its bio availability, wouldnt touch those things with a pole ... bleh
Title: Re: The Inuit diet - detoxing or not?
Post by: PaleoPhil on February 07, 2010, 09:45:48 pm
Eat a herring a day for 5000 IU
What is your source for that? Nutritiondata claims just 460 IUs (http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/finfish-and-shellfish-products/4065/2).
Title: Re: The Inuit diet - detoxing or not?
Post by: chucky on February 10, 2010, 07:49:56 pm
What is your source for that? Nutritiondata claims just 460 IUs (http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/finfish-and-shellfish-products/4065/2).

Looks like I am overeating the herring if 1oz is the normal serving size :). You were looking Vitamin D content of 1oz serving size. Change it to 1 fillet 184g. 1 Fillet has 3000IU make it a whole herring you get 6000IU add liver and you might get a lot more I think. Let me know if I was wrong.
Title: Re: The Inuit diet - detoxing or not?
Post by: majormark on February 10, 2010, 10:22:37 pm

Is there anyone here who eats one herring a day?

Title: Re: The Inuit diet - detoxing or not?
Post by: chucky on February 10, 2010, 10:50:36 pm
Is there anyone here who eats one herring a day?



I have been eating herring fillets. Is it bad to eat herring a day ?
Title: Re: The Inuit diet - detoxing or not?
Post by: cherimoya_kid on February 11, 2010, 10:35:54 am
I'm not sure I can get fresh herring.
Title: Re: The Inuit diet - detoxing or not?
Post by: RawZi on February 11, 2010, 11:20:43 am
I'm not sure I can get fresh herring.

    I tried at the WF fish counter by me yesterday.  They didn't have it.  Maybe I'll try the fish area a farmer's market.  I don't think there are any fish mongers around here (you can tell I don't live on the water).  I know a place to get salted herrings (certainly not an Inuit type food) around here, but I did try one and it had kind of a rotten taste that I suppose people who eat mostly cooked fish can't taste.  Herring must come from Europe and in the US you'd probably have to be in NY to get it somewhat fresh.
Title: Re: The Inuit diet - detoxing or not?
Post by: PaleoPhil on February 11, 2010, 11:40:57 am
Looks like I am overeating the herring if 1oz is the normal serving size :). You were looking Vitamin D content of 1oz serving size. Change it to 1 fillet 184g. 1 Fillet has 3000IU make it a whole herring you get 6000IU add liver and you might get a lot more I think. Let me know if I was wrong.
Ah, thanks for checking that. 1 oz is a bizarre default serving size. LOL Because of your catching that I checked other nutrition sites around the Web with figures on fish and discovered that most of them use puny sizes for servings of fish. No wonder the numbers are so low--they don't know me very well!  :D

Maybe this helps explain how the traditional Inuit were able to avoid D3 deficiency. I figure that diet must at least partly account for it, given they survived through months of no sun every year and they didn't limit their intake of fish to puny rations like moderners strangely do. Are there any other foods really high in D3 like herring?
Title: Re: The Inuit diet - detoxing or not?
Post by: chucky on February 11, 2010, 02:31:37 pm
Maybe this helps explain how the traditional Inuit were able to avoid D3 deficiency. I figure that diet must at least partly account for it, given they survived through months of no sun every year and they didn't limit their intake of fish to puny rations like moderners strangely do.

Science has started to catch up on Vitamin D and they have found out that Vitamin D3 might be a "miracle drug" (in their words). I wonder if Vitamin D3 is a huge contributor to Inuits good health as they are "overdosing" the D3 on fish :P

Are there any other foods really high in D3 like herring?

http://www.nutritiondata.com/foods-000102000000000000000.html Here is a list. I think you can't find anything so high in Vitamin D3 other than fish.
Title: Re: The Inuit diet - detoxing or not?
Post by: RawZi on February 11, 2010, 04:49:16 pm
http://www.nutritiondata.com/foods-000102000000000000000.html Here is a list. I think you can't find anything so high in Vitamin D3 other than fish.

    The foods I see listed on the whole long first page are fish, soymilk, soy formula and Kellogg's brand cereal.  I suppose the latter three are D2 in supplement form.  Funny they put it into grain mostly it would seem.  Must be to offset the osteoporosis that grain causes.  I remember eating almost all of my protein in the form of rice or peas at age 19 or 20, and definitely feeling (and seeing one) my bones weakening too much at that age too.  The rice and peas were natural (no Vit D added). 

Title: Re: The Inuit diet - detoxing or not?
Post by: PaleoPhil on February 12, 2010, 07:28:24 am
Now you know why the royalty fed the peasants rice and peas and potatoes and reserved hunting and fishing for themselves.
Title: Re: The Inuit diet - detoxing or not?
Post by: RawZi on February 12, 2010, 03:55:59 pm
Now you know why the royalty fed the peasants rice and peas and potatoes and reserved hunting and fishing for themselves.

    To weaken the poor people's bones and kill them.  Why the h*ll would they do that?!  They're supposed to love their loyal subjects.  Do they rather subject them than give strength supportive love?  *sigh*

    You're right, even now, the presidents hunt, the kings hunt.

    With the Inuit, I believe everyone pretty much hunts.  No one gets rice.  

    Rice bothers my teeth, if and when I eat.  I mean the last 5 yrs of vegan.
Title: Re: The Inuit diet - detoxing or not?
Post by: raw-al on March 09, 2010, 05:35:26 am
The funny thing about seal meat is that it is hunted in Newfoundland Canada and Greenpeace tried to shutdown the hunt as it was able to suck money out of contributers by showing cute faces of seals in their ads. Various Hollywood actors and atresses have been hired to sit on the ice for this. Bridget Bardot and one actress from "Mash" did it. A number of years ago Paul McCartney's ex convinced him to fly out to an ice floe to get a pic with a seal. These animals are quite vicious and wanted no part of posing with Sir Paul so they (Paul and Peggy) got out of there quickly. In the House of Assembly one of the Parliamentarians said after all this publicity that if Paul M wanted to stop the seal hunt, it would be "a long and winding road..."

Part of the reason Greenpeace went after the hunt is that when they hunt the seals they used to do it for the pelts only, which is a huge waste of the rest of the animal. Most people are not interested in the taste and the fat in the seals because of how it gets really tough when it is cooked and the taste is strong. If you could find a way to contact the companies in Newfoundland and Labrador that do the hunt, you can get the stuff fairly cheaply. It is sold in the spring in various places on the "Rock" especially in St. John's when the annual seal hunt (cull) is held. If all else fails, contact the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador for a contact. In Goose Bay my friends go out every spring to hunt seal as a rite of spring for their taste of seal meat.
Title: Re: The Inuit diet - detoxing or not?
Post by: political atheist on May 30, 2019, 10:52:56 pm
Interesting that pacific herring contains ZERO vitamin D