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Title: Help my best friend with broken bone get on raw animal foods.
Post by: intouchwithinstinct on March 23, 2010, 09:15:12 pm
One of My best friends Nate who's big into snowboarding has taken interest in what I eat and I have started telling him the health benefits of eating raw animal foods.
He is really interested, and recently became more interested for more specific reasons. See hes a snowboarder and has a broken bone in his arm which if it doesn't heal up within a few months he wont be able to compete in a competition he really was looking forward to.
The doctors told him there is nothing he can do but just wait for it to heal and hope it heals in time. But me and Nate both agree you have to take almost EVERYTHING doctors say with a grain of salt, most of those guys have no clue about anything nutritional or Beyond there subscription pad.
I know if I could show him some evidence that this diet and/or specific foods on this diet would speed his healing he would jump into it and see many of the other benefits straight on I've been telling him about.
Nate's is really fact oriented and a really critical thinking guy.
Anyone have experience in healing broken bones? Or any insight? :)
Any specific suggestions, and please provide the reason for your suggestions as well. I need to be able to show him more then just ideas he wont get into it unless he hears a good argument for it. Haha its one of the things I respect him for we debate for hours and always get insight from each other, where both deep thinker types.
Title: Re: Help my best friend with broken bone get on raw animal foods.
Post by: William on March 24, 2010, 02:58:55 am
One of My best friends Nate who's big into snowboarding has taken interest in what I eat and I have started telling him the health benefits of eating raw animal foods.
He is really interested, and recently became more interested for more specific reasons. See hes a snowboarder and has a broken bone in his arm which if it doesn't heal up within a few months he wont be able to compete in a competition he really was looking forward to.
The doctors told him there is nothing he can do but just wait for it to heal and hope it heals in time.
Robert O. Becker MD wrote a book called "The Body Electric" - it's about his experience while doing science in the field of bone healing. He found that the polarity of the electric field around the break is important. The device he invented is in use in hospitals in the U.S.A. for healing broken bones that otherwise won't heal.
Title: Re: Help my best friend with broken bone get on raw animal foods.
Post by: cherimoya_kid on March 24, 2010, 08:29:41 am
One of My best friends Nate who's big into snowboarding has taken interest in what I eat and I have started telling him the health benefits of eating raw animal foods.
He is really interested, and recently became more interested for more specific reasons. See hes a snowboarder and has a broken bone in his arm which if it doesn't heal up within a few months he wont be able to compete in a competition he really was looking forward to.
The doctors told him there is nothing he can do but just wait for it to heal and hope it heals in time. But me and Nate both agree you have to take almost EVERYTHING doctors say with a grain of salt, most of those guys have no clue about anything nutritional or Beyond there subscription pad.
I know if I could show him some evidence that this diet and/or specific foods on this diet would speed his healing he would jump into it and see many of the other benefits straight on I've been telling him about.
Nate's is really fact oriented and a really critical thinking guy.
Anyone have experience in healing broken bones? Or any insight? :)
Any specific suggestions, and please provide the reason for your suggestions as well. I need to be able to show him more then just ideas he wont get into it unless he hears a good argument for it. Haha its one of the things I respect him for we debate for hours and always get insight from each other, where both deep thinker types.
Eating foods rich in vitamin D-3, getting lots of sunlight, and getting plenty of calcium (like from bone meal) will probably help heal his bones more quickly.
Title: Re: Help my best friend with broken bone get on raw animal foods.
Post by: kurite on March 24, 2010, 09:33:39 am
Eating foods rich in vitamin D-3, getting lots of sunlight, and getting plenty of calcium (like from bone meal) will probably help heal his bones more quickly.
and magnesium is equally as important as calcium.
Title: Re: Help my best friend with broken bone get on raw animal foods.
Post by: intouchwithinstinct on March 24, 2010, 03:50:32 pm
William, Thank you for that info on polarity's, I will pass that jewel of knowledge onto Nate and look into it out of my own personal curiosity now as well.
cherimoya_kid, Yes! Sunlight can not be underestimated along with are diet as I'm sure most tribal cultures around the world got plenty of it. I know its helped me tons, and its great for testosterone levels too. The only people I would be concerned about getting to much sunlight are those who's genetic ancestry is from northern of darker areas, as there ansesters didn't get to much sunlight maybe there body would take in Vitim in D better through high levels in the diet. Maybe I'm Way off on that last one anyone know? I'm buying a rasp to make bone meal this weak, all see if hes interested in one as well.
Kurite, I understand that magnesium is impotent for calcium absorption, I'm not really sure what role it plays in bone development and healing to be honest though, could you expand a little more on that? :)
I like to make sure I respond fully to everyone who responds to me I believe we all progress in are learning in conversations and as a group if we do this in are posts. That and actually stay on the topic of the post I've noticed allot of Topics go in all sorts of directions as appose to just starting new topics for them. :P
Title: Re: Help my best friend with broken bone get on raw animal foods.
Post by: TylerDurden on March 24, 2010, 05:25:56 pm
Other than eating foods rich in phosophorus, magnesium and vitamin d, I have no real suggestions(calcium is only needed in small amounts so, IMO, bone isn't required). The trouble with RVAF diets is that they vary in healing-rates from individual to individual. There's also the point that the whole body would have to start healing from the negative effects of cooked/processed diets, so that the healing of the bone might take just as long as if the guy was on a SAD diet , given diversion of healing resources.
Title: Re: Help my best friend with broken bone get on raw animal foods.
Post by: intouchwithinstinct on March 24, 2010, 06:52:24 pm
Hmm interesting point TylerDurden about the recovery from cooked foods process. I'm really curious about why calcium is only required in small amounts compared to phosphorus, magnesium and vitamin d. Could you please expand on this for me? I understand the vitamin d part, but I've always been told that the optimum dosage is half as much magnesium as calcium and both in pretty high doses. I have no doubt just because I've always been told that it could be wrong though.
Title: Re: Help my best friend with broken bone get on raw animal foods.
Post by: TylerDurden on March 24, 2010, 10:04:50 pm
Hmm interesting point TylerDurden about the recovery from cooked foods process. I'm really curious about why calcium is only required in small amounts compared to phosphorus, magnesium and vitamin d. Could you please expand on this for me? I understand the vitamin d part, but I've always been told that the optimum dosage is half as much magnesium as calcium and both in pretty high doses. I have no doubt just because I've always been told that it could be wrong though.
You only need small amounts of magnesium and calcium, they just need to be 1:1 or at most `1:2 to each other re ratio. We've already shown, in the past, studies on very low-calcium-eating Bantu women who had excellent bone-structure, so there's clearly no need for large amounts of calcium:-