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Title: Along the lines of "high" meat, what about "high" vegetables and fruits?OPINION?
Post by: bharminder on June 30, 2010, 07:12:03 am
Along the logic of "high" meat, what about "high" fruits and vegetables?
For example, I had some strawberries that got a little moldy(the white fuzz on the outside of the berries).....I washed it off with vinegar and they weren't bad so it tastes normal.
But it got me thinking of the concept of "high" meat, so I want to know,
1) what about "high" vegetables and fruits? Are they better fresh, or aged, or "high"? Can you get sick from eating moldy fruit or slimy vegetables?
And, 2) does the logic of anaerobic bacteria (and it being bad) include fruits and vegetables? For example, I leave vegetables in the fridge, usually sealed in their plastic bag they came with in the grocery store. It is pretty much sealed from air. Generally I push out all the air with my arm as I've noticed the vegetables stay fresh longer. But that is opposite to the anaerobic bacteria theory, where if the vegetables had air they would last longer. So should I "air" my sealed vegetables and fruits every couple days to prevent anaerobic abcteria from growing?
Sometimes I leave vegetables sealed in their plastic bag for 2 -3 weeks because I forget about them or don't want to eat them.
Bobby
Title: Re: Along the lines of "high" meat, what about "high" vegetables and fruits?OPINION?
Post by: RawZi on June 30, 2010, 10:04:17 am
I think the high is different. Ever sniff smelling salts? It kind of helps oxygenate your brain. High meat can make ammonia, not unlike the smelling salts, but you eat high meat to get the high.
High vegetables and fruit can make vinegar. Smelling vinegar never gave me that high. Eating fermented fruit or veges does give a feeling, but more like alcohol for me, a low not a high.
Ever mix ammonia and vinegar?
I think paleo man may have eaten rotten meat to get the nutrients or to get high, but I think they ate their fruit and herbs fresh.
Title: Re: Along the lines of "high" meat, what about "high" vegetables and fruits?OPINION?
Post by: bharminder on June 30, 2010, 10:17:24 am
Ah I see. Anyother opinions are welcome.
Rawzi, so if rotten meat makes ammonia,, isn't consuming ammonia bad for the health? Please explain.
Bobby
Title: Re: Along the lines of "high" meat, what about "high" vegetables and fruits?OPINION?
Post by: RawZi on June 30, 2010, 07:18:38 pm
I'm no scientist, but it seems the highmeat is good for my blood vessels and helps allow more oxygen to circulate in my body.
Vinegar cooks my mouth like ceviche.
Title: Re: Along the lines of "high" meat, what about "high" vegetables and fruits?OPINION?
Post by: MoonStalkeR on June 30, 2010, 10:04:25 pm
What about fermented plant foods like sauerkraut and pickles (unpasteurized of course, not the typical supermarket kind). Those are different from high meat, but the bacteria it provides are still beneficial.
Title: Re: Along the lines of "high" meat, what about "high" vegetables and fruits?OPINION?
Post by: bharminder on July 02, 2010, 07:06:24 am
Yes, great point. That helps to put aged/high meat into perspective. Thanks!!!
Bobby
Title: Re: Along the lines of "high" meat, what about "high" vegetables and fruits?OPINION?
Post by: RawZi on July 02, 2010, 02:50:45 pm
What about fermented plant foods like sauerkraut and pickles (unpasteurized of course, not the typical supermarket kind). Those are different from high meat, but the bacteria it provides are still beneficial.
That (vegie-kraut) helps digest vegetables. If you're eating vegetables, sure, even make apple cider vinegar salad dressing, it helps you break them down. I ate that every day on Ann Wigmore's Living Food LifestyleTM. I made the kraut myself. It just doesn't seem right with RP to me though. I guess if there's no animals around to hunt, you'd have to incorporate a lot of vegetables.
Title: Re: Along the lines of "high" meat, what about "high" vegetables and fruits?OPINION?
Post by: MoonStalkeR on July 03, 2010, 12:21:00 am
Vegetables are a last resort food. It's not really worth the trouble eating them fresh as most of it won't be absorbed. Cooking is no option, so the most reasonable choice ends up being fermented, raw, veggies.
I'm interested in fermenting veggies too, would be a good way to add additional nutrients.
Title: Re: Along the lines of "high" meat, what about "high" vegetables and fruits?OPINION?
Post by: miles on July 03, 2010, 03:25:59 am
What to you think of store-bought pickled vegetables?
Title: Re: Along the lines of "high" meat, what about "high" vegetables and fruits?OPINION?
Post by: dsohei on July 04, 2010, 01:15:38 am