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Title: Moving from cooked paleo to raw paleo - Why am i tired and craving more food
Post by: butters on July 07, 2010, 03:01:00 am
Why would i be feeling tired and be craving extra food?
Title: Re: Moving from cooked paleo to raw paleo - Why am i tired and craving more food
Post by: kurite on July 07, 2010, 04:52:25 am
Your body needs to adapt to raw meat. Give it a couple of days and you should feel great.
Title: Re: Moving from cooked paleo to raw paleo - Why am i tired and craving more food
Post by: sven on July 07, 2010, 04:58:32 am
You don't feel heavy and full after eating raw.  Sometimes it feels like you've eaten nothing at all.  This is the beauty of the diet, you can eat a pound of meat then go hike a mountain.  Try doing that on SAD.  Stick with the diet, eat enough calories so you don't crave any other crap
Title: Re: Moving from cooked paleo to raw paleo - Why am i tired and craving more food
Post by: butters on July 08, 2010, 09:17:57 pm
I'm still very tired. How long will this last?
Title: Re: Moving from cooked paleo to raw paleo - Why am i tired and craving more food
Post by: goodsamaritan on July 08, 2010, 11:06:48 pm
I'm still very tired. How long will this last?

You probably need to feed us more info:

your age, your illness / condition, state of health
have you done any detoxing
What time do you sleep
What line of work you are in.
What does a typical day of dieting is like.
Are your foods organic? Vegs? Fruit? Meat?
Title: Re: Moving from cooked paleo to raw paleo - Why am i tired and craving more food
Post by: butters on July 08, 2010, 11:50:55 pm
You probably need to feed us more info:

your age, your illness / condition, state of health
have you done any detoxing
What time do you sleep
What line of work you are in.
What does a typical day of dieting is like.
Are your foods organic? Vegs? Fruit? Meat?

22, no illness/ average state of health
no detoxing
I slept last night from 11 till 9 30
I'm a student
I eat meat, nuts, fruit, veg, a lot of coconut milk, eggs
Title: Re: Moving from cooked paleo to raw paleo - Why am i tired and craving more food
Post by: goodsamaritan on July 08, 2010, 11:54:32 pm
Try posting your daily diet again in this formatted exampl:

Sample of a typical day for me:

Breakfast

- 2 raw fertilized duck eggs (fatty)
- coconut juice and coconut meat (fatty)
- fruit in season (papaya / mango / durian / melon / guava / etc.)

Mid day snack for hydration

- coconut juice and coconut meat (fatty)

Lunch

- big raw animal meal of raw grass beef or raw blue marlin sashimi sometimes raw horse
with a good amount of raw yellow fat in beef and horse.
Up to 500 grams = 1/2 kilo = 1.1 lbs.

Mid day snack for hydration

- some hydrating fruit like watermelon or green oranges are in season these days

Dinner

- minor raw animal meal as above, less amount.
- if I feel like innards, raw beef liver, small raw whole fish, raw oysters or raw clams.
Title: Re: Moving from cooked paleo to raw paleo - Why am i tired and craving more food
Post by: butters on July 09, 2010, 12:11:14 am
Try posting your daily diet again in this formatted exampl:

Sample of a typical day for me:

Breakfast

- 2 raw fertilized duck eggs (fatty)
- coconut juice and coconut meat (fatty)
- fruit in season (papaya / mango / durian / melon / guava / etc.)

Mid day snack for hydration

- coconut juice and coconut meat (fatty)

Lunch

- big raw animal meal of raw grass beef or raw blue marlin sashimi sometimes raw horse
with a good amount of raw yellow fat in beef and horse.
Up to 500 grams = 1/2 kilo = 1.1 lbs.

Mid day snack for hydration

- some hydrating fruit like watermelon or green oranges are in season these days

Dinner

- minor raw animal meal as above, less amount.
- if I feel like innards, raw beef liver, small raw whole fish, raw oysters or raw clams.


Breakfast

125 grams of linseeds
1.5 tins of coconut
10 cashew nuts
1 banana
1 apple
400 grams of berries

Lunch

200 gram steak
4 pieces of brocolli

Dinner

120 grams of smoked salmon
200 grams of lamb shoulder
Title: Re: Moving from cooked paleo to raw paleo - Why am i tired and craving more food
Post by: butters on July 09, 2010, 12:50:24 am
I feel so, so irritable. Is this tiredness an initiation thing? because i'm eating everything I ate on cooked paleo but raw and feeling awful
Title: Re: Moving from cooked paleo to raw paleo - Why am i tired and craving more food
Post by: Josh on July 09, 2010, 01:01:43 am
Hey there. I haven't crunched the numbers, but your diet seems heavy on protein and light on fat. Most of us get a significant amount of energy from fat, which you have to adapt to. Although it's an open question how much carb you need, I think most people would agree on that as protein is the hardest to break down.

e.g. if you only eat rabbits and salmon you can die of 'rabbit starvation' due to low energy.

I don't know why it's different for you now, but have you changed the general outline of what you eat since going raw?

Also, you can probably lose the broccoli, seeds and nuts as they don't really add anything to raw animal diet and might get in the way of digesting.



Title: Re: Moving from cooked paleo to raw paleo - Why am i tired and craving more food
Post by: butters on July 09, 2010, 01:05:35 am
Hey there. I haven't crunched the numbers, but your diet seems heavy on protein and light on fat. Most of us get a significant amount of energy from fat, which you have to adapt to. Although it's an open question how much carb you need, I think most people would agree on that as protein is the hardest to break down.

e.g. if you only eat rabbits and salmon you can die of 'rabbit starvation' due to low energy.

I don't know why it's different for you now, but have you changed the general outline of what you eat since going raw?

Also, you can probably lose the broccoli, seeds and nuts as they don't really add anything to raw animal diet and might get in the way of digesting.


in 1.5 tins of coconut milk there is 90 grams of fat.
Title: Re: Moving from cooked paleo to raw paleo - Why am i tired and craving more food
Post by: Josh on July 09, 2010, 02:21:18 am
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in 1.5 tins of coconut milk there is 90 grams of fat.

enough?
Title: Re: Moving from cooked paleo to raw paleo - Why am i tired and craving more food
Post by: butters on July 09, 2010, 02:40:57 am
enough?

No, but then you include the linseeds which are 42 grams of fat to every 100 and the nuts which are 50 to every 100.
Title: Re: Moving from cooked paleo to raw paleo - Why am i tired and craving more food
Post by: dsohei on July 09, 2010, 04:40:38 am
if i drink half a can of coconut milk (organic coconut, water, guar gum) i am knocked out drowsy with no energy.
Title: Re: Moving from cooked paleo to raw paleo - Why am i tired and craving more food
Post by: carnivore on July 09, 2010, 05:51:49 am
in 1.5 tins of coconut milk there is 90 grams of fat.

And a bunch of toxic components coming from the heating at high temperature of the coconut milk. Drop it !
Same thing for smoked salmon!

RAWPALEO MAN, RAWPALEO!  :)
Title: Re: Moving from cooked paleo to raw paleo - Why am i tired and craving more food
Post by: goodsamaritan on July 09, 2010, 07:08:29 am
Breakfast

125 grams of linseeds
1.5 tins of coconut
10 cashew nuts
1 banana
1 apple
400 grams of berries

Lunch

200 gram steak
4 pieces of brocolli

Dinner

120 grams of smoked salmon
200 grams of lamb shoulder

Sequential eating. Do not food combine.

linseeds - drop it, seeds aren't paleo

tins of coconut ??? - sounds processed to me, not raw at all, processing pollution, press raw coconuts yourself if you are looking for coconut milk

cashew nuts - not raw, always has to be cooked to get rid of the toxic chemicals around it. Interferes with meat digestion.

Banana - is it organic?

Apple - is it organic?

Berries - what type of berries?

Steak - great, what cut? Grass fed? How much fat? 

Raw broccoli? - yuck.  Also bad to combine this veggy and steak - bad digestion.  Drop the broccoli and just increase the steak size.

Smoked salmon? - not raw

Lamb shoulder - great. Probably should not combine with salmon.  Just eat it alone.

Happy adjusting!
Title: Re: Moving from cooked paleo to raw paleo - Why am i tired and craving more food
Post by: ForTheHunt on July 09, 2010, 07:18:48 am
Yeah your food combination is rather poor.
Title: Re: Moving from cooked paleo to raw paleo - Why am i tired and craving more food
Post by: sven on July 09, 2010, 11:46:00 am
Dude.... you need to eat more.  Your entire days meal looks like one of my meals.... food for fuel man.  Try calculating your calorie intake.

How much do you weigh?


Raw broccoli drains me..
Title: Re: Moving from cooked paleo to raw paleo - Why am i tired and craving more food
Post by: Wolf on July 22, 2010, 11:26:12 pm
I know someone on this forum mentioned somewhere, I think it was actionhero, said that if your first meal of the day is composed of suger/carbs, that your body will adjust to them and not be able to digest fats as easily during the rest of the day..

Maybe try eating some steak for breakfast instead of seed/nut/fruit?  It should be able to help you a bit with the digestion of fats and therefore giving you better energy throughout the day with a mainly meat diet.

I've just started this raw-paleo diet as well, and although I'm usually pretty hungry throughout the day, I haven't really had a lack of energy, actually more of an increase of energy, at least when I wake up.. but, it probably hasn't quite been long enough yet for me to know any real results.
Title: Re: Moving from cooked paleo to raw paleo - Why am i tired and craving more food
Post by: sven on July 24, 2010, 03:17:25 am
Have you resolved your issues butters?