Paleo Diet: Raw Paleo Diet and Lifestyle Forum
Raw Paleo Diet Forums => Welcoming Committee => Topic started by: achillezzz on October 07, 2010, 04:09:28 am
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Hello raw eaters I have recently see alot of raw meat eaters on internet say its easy for digestion and its the most
natural diet for human body Because he human mechanism evolved on this diet.
I believe this is true.
So few months ago I thought about really getting into this But I was so scared of eating this food.
But I always remembered rocky drinking raw eggs and other people in wild nature do it for survival means.
Well I just had to be sure if it safe I opened the internet and read about it all place its says ""SALMONELA"
But when I saw video of aajonus sucking that egg I right away tried 4 raw eggs and i just flushed em down the throat
It was nasty the texture of the egg yuk. BUT HERE I AM NO SALMONELA AND NOTHING!! I also noticed its digests like water !! LOL!!
super fast.
So here I am now so far I can do only raw eggs and fruits veggies.
I am very scared of Raw milk and Raw Meat for me its like FATAL I think I gona die within a day or get sick for rest my life..
I read about E.coli and bad guys like this it scares me!!!
The only Organic free range meat I have access to its chicken.
The Beef only jesus knows where it comes from and how.
but I know place where they bring beef from australia but not sure if grass fed or antibiotic free??
Anybody can give me some little recpi for raw meat? to try?
Is it dangerous to eat raw beef when not sure if grass fed??
And how about the raw organic chicken??
I want to take this step this month just eat that raw meat ..
What you suggest me to eat the beef or the chicken? + how to make it taste not disgusting ?
I really wait on for comments I feel without anyone helping me here I cant move on seriously and I want to move on!! I really do :'(
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If it smells nice and fresh and looks juicy and fresh, and taste fresh and nice then it's ok to eat. It might not be the ultimate perfect healthiest food when compared to wild or grass-fed meat, but it's ok to eat and still better than most stuff, if it meets those sense requirements. Meat that looks and smells and tastes good, is good.. It just is not the best unless it's grass-fed/wild, but you can make those improvements in time. It's best for you to start eating raw meat when you've eaten nothing else yet that day, so that your senses are not obscured.
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What about parasites Bacteria salmonela?
E.coli?? people die from it? and other bad guys? I mean they dont say dont eat raw meat for no reason.
So how I know my meat is E.coli free??
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Keep your meat in the refrigerator by hanging or on a plate open to the air in the refrigerator.
You will gain good bacteria.
If you wrap it in plastic, it will gain bad bacteria.
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The human body has natural amounts of e coli bacteria in the gut, so it is obvious that the issue of food-poiosning is a myth. The only problem is when one is eating unhealthy foods, whether raw or cooked. Go in for wildcaught raw meats or raw grassfed meats, not grainfed meats.
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but I know place where they bring beef from australia but not sure if grass fed or antibiotic free??
what the other carnivores said and I myself have started to buy meat from Australia instead of local organic. In Denmark they slaughter old milking cows for meat. so even if you cash up about double the money for "organic" it is still worn out milking cows. The australian brand I buy (Premium) is sold on it being 100% grassfed, and technically organic (since they just graze in the free), but due to a legal problem it is not branded organic. Atleast here.
My only worry and one that the butcher who sell them could not answer is if the meat is kept fresh during transportation or it is frozen and defrosted. He got it in a fresh state, but he could not tell for sure if the large importer thewed them before sending them out to the stores. I have noticed no change in my energy levels and i do very poorly on defrosted meat , so I suspect it is fair enough. or simply of such a quality that even defrosted it still beats the local milking cows in nutritional value.
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Keep your meat in the refrigerator by hanging or on a plate open to the air in the refrigerator.
You will gain good bacteria.
If you wrap it in plastic, it will gain bad bacteria.
Thank you! When you keep it in the air, it gets a dried surface. That is ok? because i use to just put it in sterile glass jars, but after a few days it still start to taste...off.
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Old milked cows meat sounds not very nice... enought to turn all DurianRider.
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Old milked cows meat sounds not very nice... enought to turn all DurianRider.
you have no idea mate. I started to spend unreasonable amounts of money on "oranic" in the belief it was better for me. And I could not figure out why it tasted exactly the bloody same, since it was all the hype and people could not get their hands down from praise of it. Then I spoke to a guy who used to farm, who laughed and told me that we sell all the good stuff abroad and eat the milking cows when they are milked out. If i wanted the good stuff I should find Australian or New zealand beef. meh... its cheaper too.
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What about parasites Bacteria salmonela?
E.coli?? people die from it? and other bad guys? I mean they dont say dont eat raw meat for no reason.
So how I know my meat is E.coli free??
If it has significant bad bacteria it will look/smell/taste bad/off. It won't look/smell/taste fresh.
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Strangely enough I've never been afraid of bacteria. When I first read about eating raw meat (on the WAPF site) I wasn't shocked or anything, my only concern was regarding taste. Then I found this forum quite by accident. In fact I was looking for food sources of vitamin b6 (for my acne), and read that it's destroyed by hit. So it made sense I should eat raw meat in order to get enough b6. Just then I started reading on heat generated toxins and so on.
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I dont knoww man I can only drink raw eggs with room temperature so they not taste bad...
I didn't read any book on raw meats or anything(maybe the books have explanations)
but i am very afraid of disease parasites bacterias :'(
I have raw beef steak entrecote and Raw chicken not sure if both organic or what they ate or what they got injected if at all.
they both in the freezer i don't want to say something stupid but im scared eating it raw seriously despite all of the benefits i read on this forum :'( :'( :'(
Is there any evidence online that says food poisoning / death from bad bacteria is a myth?
I am not a hater I just didn't read any book about raw meats sorry if i say something dumb i am totally scared of meat in raw form
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Well I didn't read any book also. I guess you will feel more comfortable if you take a look at the pictures of members eating raw meat with their bare hands.
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I can get unfrozen beef meats what you think what pieaces are best taste raw?
Should I put the meats in the refrigerator?
Should I start eating raw meats by under cooking it so i adapt?
And the most important questin is it ok to eat that meat when you not sure where it comes from and its not organic feed?
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what is the best cut to start with the fillet?? Carpaccio?? I heard people eat it raw.
I just gotta try something raw man I feel I need itt.. Fasted for 1 day and now I dont wany anything but raw beef with alot of avocados lemons and salt its what i feel right now
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try slicing carpaccio thin. It's my latest experiment.
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Not very paleo, but you want recipes. How about making a raw chicken salad? You can make a raw mayonnaise. Don't use much in the way of vegetables. It doesn't digest the best with raw meat. Enjoy! I feel and am very healthy eating raw chicken. Chicken nor eggs never gave me salmonella, nothing has. I've never gotten an infection from raw meat.
How is the raw milk where you are? I haven't had problems with that either, except finding it! Don't drink it fast or cold. It's usually best fatty and fermented.
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but i am very afraid of disease parasites bacterias :'(
1st treatment is to get rid of fears from ur heart. that'll work like a prohibitor for ur optimal health. it's proven that when a bird accidentally eats poison, but it doesn't know it is a poison, that bird survives. before i start my RPD, my body was loaded with disgusting parasites. now i stop being worried about bacterias and parasites and none of them now existed in my body (at least that's the way i feel now)
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I read somewhere that chiken and pork are being exposed more into bad enviorements
I'll Probably buy the freshest beef fillet they slaughter the cow at the night before they sell it.
I read also that in some resturants people eat raw fillet.
I try the beef fillet 1 pieace raw or cook it 30seconds on both sides they say it destroys some bacteria+enzymes but the inside is warm and raw probably the taste will be better :D
The milk I didnt tried the raw yet maybe I did when I was a kid when there was not that much procceced food i was living in a place like small farm we raised our meat we had our vegetables everything..
but if I get raw milk I probably warm it a little bit to kill some bacteria but not that warm to pasteurize it.
today the have ULTRA PASTURIZATION its when nothing left inside lol or they mix Milk Powder with Water.
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1st treatment is to get rid of fears from ur heart. that'll work like a prohibitor for ur optimal health. it's proven that when a bird accidentally eats poison, but it doesn't know it is a poison, that bird survives. before i start my RPD, my body was loaded with disgusting parasites. now i stop being worried about bacterias and parasites and none of them now existed in my body (at least that's the way i feel now)
That is not very convincing hehe ;)
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That is not very convincing hehe ;)
well, as i say that it doesn't matter, fear kills people. sometimes people eat healthy food and can't get the optimal health (if they carry any doubt about that healthy food). we can't measure everything with science. if you even chose to pray to ur food before u consume, it will change the molecule and changes the energy(i mean even worst food). :)
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Ah I got it what you talking about.
I have to agree on this with you but as far as I remember I am totally suspicious person from birth word
But yes I agree with you :)
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Ah I got it what you talking about.
I have to agree on this with you but as far as I remember I am totally suspicious person from birth word
But yes I agree with you :)
after adopted on raw paleo, the feeling will be on other way. the feeling is sort of like an individual can conquer the all fears from his /her mind. that's happened to me at least. :)
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So the change is taking place in your soul - not primarily in your body, right?
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So the change is taking place in your soul - not primarily in your body, right?
Both :)
Just little update
Nowadays I am not that afraid of raw meat.
The only meat I can get is grainfed not because of financial problems but because I changed country and where I live now grassfed is not exist.
I eat raw meat once a week raw eggs everyday juicing veggies .
Maybe soon I will start eating raw meat 2 days a week !!
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Both :)
Just little update
Nowadays I am not that afraid of raw meat.
The only meat I can get is grainfed not because of financial problems but because I changed country and where I live now grassfed is not exist.
I eat raw meat once a week raw eggs everyday juicing veggies .
Maybe soon I will start eating raw meat 2 days a week !!
Since the fatty acid content is all wrong, do you supplement omega 3s or eat fish?
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I don't eat alot of animal fat the main source of my fat intake as sad as it sounds are eggs.
I eat 3 raw steaks usually or tenderloin with some egg yolk and im ok :D
I might consider taking fish oil or something but I want to change country in next few years for sure...
In nature animals always move when their enviorment is not supplying them with good food they change place always going to the best place because they know food is their life and its not something to play with. Im in the same situation right now!
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Are you in Russia where you claim you can't find pastured meat?
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Are you in Russia where you claim you can't find pastured meat?
No.
Im in israel the "Holy Land" where grass exists only 2 month in a year because of rain problem etc etc
Of course I can find pastured meat but not grasfed it makes me sad :(
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No.
Im in israel the "Holy Land" where grass exists only 2 month in a year because of rain problem etc etc
Of course I can find pastured meat but not grasfed it makes me sad :(
I'm sorry to hear that you cannot find grass fed meat! Your situation just shows that even though it may be difficult to find grass fed meat here in the U.S., at least it is a viable option. I talk to other health-minded people here who don't even appreciate the availability of grass fed meat. Instead they complain about how expensive it is and say they would eat it if it weren't so expensive.
Of course, I understand that everyone has to make difficult choices regarding how they spend their limited funds. But eating factory farmed and grain-fed meat for your entire life has real money consequences. I think that paying double or triple the price for my meat will pay off in health benefits. One has to consider all of the costs of food choices in order to make the best decision.
I hope you are able to find a decent source of meat, whether you emigrate or not. Have you looked into wild fish? That might be an option.
Ryan
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No.
Im in israel the "Holy Land" where grass exists only 2 month in a year because of rain problem etc etc
Of course I can find pastured meat but not grasfed it makes me sad :(
Well what animals live out there? No need for beef as long as the animals your eating are eating the diet they were designed to eat.
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Of course I can find pastured meat but not grasfed it makes me sad :(
?.. Wh.. ? You can find pastured but not grass-fed, what does that mean? They graze on pastures of cornflakes?