I did the arise and shine colon cleanse. You can probably google it.
What you do is you go buy psyllium husk and bentonite clay and then you put 1 heaping teaspoon or something of psyllium husk and 1/3rd of bentonite clay into water, stir it and drink it. You do this like 4-5 times a day.
Then do an enema atleast once a day to clear out what ever comes out. I'm pretty sure mucoid placque is not real, although it comes out of me every time. This still has been one of the biggest catalysts of regaining my health. I suggest you don't do this for more than 5-6 days. Eat light leading up to it and then fast no more than 5-6 days.
And uhm, yeah. There are herbs and shit you can buy which supposedly stimulates release of mucoid placque. I've always taken them, although I'm not 100% convinced of their value, although I've never tried it with out them. I got mine at blessed herbs. It's called digestive stimulator or something.
That's all I can think of as of right now. Feel free to ask me any questions after you've done some research
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 12, 2010, 07:16:43 am
I have done colonics.
Dr. Tam's Miracle Tea (only in the philippines)
Castor Oil
Barefoot Herbalist Lower Bowel Balance capsules
They all work and you must know which one is for which. If you are interested I can spell it out later on.
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: ForTheHunt on November 12, 2010, 07:47:17 am
They all work and you must know which one is for which. If you are interested I can spell it out later on.
Isn't castor oil considered poisonous or something?
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: KD on November 12, 2010, 08:40:38 am
I've done about 40 colonics and maybe 25 self enemas. The issue is a really complex one. In my opinion the reasons to eschew cleanses (mostly provided by Nat. Hygiene, but also people like Aajonus) are as follows.
1.) That they remove symptoms of disease
and likely because of this they are bad. :) Its important to feel your pain in both these philosophies. Its also concluded that because there is no waste in your system that does not leave naturally that any sense of relief is either totally temporary or possibly some kind of euphoria or stimulation (from water I guess) that is harmful. Quite a tautology. Aajonus takes somewhat of a less stern view on this, as his belief is that it is his particular diet that helps cleanse the bowels better than how it would on any other natural foods or even fasting alone and he has specific protocols for bowel function. Some rare hygiene people that do believe somewhat in impacted matter believe it to break down in lengthy fasting.
2.) That they destroy bacteria, mucus lining etc..
To me this is just total hearsay as most people that are really into this kind of thing are pretty excessive about it (defiantly one of the accurate criticisms) and they don't seem to have any problems re this issue even after decades of use or misuse. I can say for the most part they are not on RAF however, which does seem to require a particular balance of bacteria in order to have regular bowel function and avoid some possible health risks of food. Either way if one was to have a series of colonics, they could easily ease back into RAF with things like eggs. Juices of course work well. I haven't felt the desire to have a colonic in years really, but would consider it and take a similar approach myself if I did. I did a few enemas last spring on this diet with no problems. The enema just cleanses the very lower part of the colon, so I don't think its much of an issue. I'm pretty sure even Aajonus recommends enemas sometimes but I am not sure about that. Anyway the bacteria should repopulate in no more than 1 day, perhaps for sick people this isn't 100%.
3.) That is just too much pressure/water up your ass.
The reality is (as anyone who's actually had a gravity colonic before will tell you) the most painful pressure you will feel is the speculum entering your but, which can indeed feel strange and foreign. the actual water never feels dramatic in terms of pressure, sometimes the therapist (if they are good) will do kind of massage and hold the tube in such a way as to create pressure, but its never much more uncomfortable than taking an uncomfortable crap ever in your life. The non-gravity motorized machines can probably rip tissue and such, i'd believe that in a heartbeat. Generally to me this is kind of the equivalent of saying you can poke your eye out in the shower.
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In summary I'm not sure colon cleansing is necessary when eating a diet that facilitates a proper breakdown and removal of wastes and plenty of raw fat to remove toxins, but I don't believe just because one is even having normal bowel movements that this is an absolute indicator of this. On the other end, I also don't think these cleanses are really great cures for short term constipation, and usually one can just go for those over the counter things. If ones goal is to have the best functioning internal bacteria then I would say perhaps be skeptical of colonics and enemas, however if that approach isn't working and people really arn't experiencing the best health (possibly shown by poor food absorption) I would give some kind of cleanses a try and then go back to the previous tactic.
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castor oil is pretty commonly used that way, you can also just put packs on your stomach externally. doesn't make sense to me how that works but some people swear by it.
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: TylerDurden on November 12, 2010, 09:01:52 am
No idea re colon cleanse but I had an enema once and it did nothing for me, except cause embarassment.
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: technosmith on November 13, 2010, 04:06:42 am
Yer, I had a colonic once. It was a very traumatic experience!
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: political atheist on December 26, 2014, 03:35:54 am
does raw meat and raw eggs cleanse the colon of the mucoid plaque and other shit stuck on the walls of the GI tract?
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: cherimoya_kid on December 26, 2014, 11:39:08 am
does raw meat and raw eggs cleanse the colon of the mucoid plaque and other shit stuck on the walls of the GI tract?
not as effectively as watery fruit like apples. It still has a cleansing effect overall, compared to the SAD, but watery fruit is the single best food for cleansing out almost anything, apples especially.
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: jessica on December 27, 2014, 09:28:38 am
I doubt it's just the water and more likely a combo of the pectin and mineral content. Wild harvested rose hips are a great, less sugary source of pectin and vitamins, it's very easy to steep them to extract the pectin. It's available in raw form if you have bushes to harvest from in the winter and spring. They are amazing to eat fresh and best afte a frost.
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: van on December 27, 2014, 12:14:18 pm
that is if you believe there's stuff clinging to the wall of the colon. Take a look at colon surgeries and see if you see any of this material present.
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: cherimoya_kid on December 27, 2014, 12:59:33 pm
I doubt it's just the water and more likely a combo of the pectin and mineral content. Wild harvested rose hips are a great, less sugary source of pectin and vitamins, it's very easy to steep them to extract the pectin. It's available in raw form if you have bushes to harvest from in the winter and spring. They are amazing to eat fresh and best afte a frost.
sounds good in theory, but not everyone has easy access to fresh rose hips. Meanwhile, apples and apple juice are proven to thin mucus and clean the colon out....and they're very easy to buy almost anywhere.
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: cherimoya_kid on December 27, 2014, 01:02:18 pm
that is if you believe there's stuff clinging to the wall of the colon. Take a look at colon surgeries and see if you see any of this material present.
I don't know about the colon, but there definitely was a layer of tough elastic mucus in my esophagus for years, before I went raw. I could never hawk it up, it was too thick. Even now I have to hawk up some mucus daily, probably from nuts/seeds or avocados.
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: eveheart on December 27, 2014, 01:10:05 pm
I don't know about the colon, but there definitely was a layer of tough elastic mucus in my esophagus for years, before I went raw. I could never hawk it up, it was too thick. Even now I have to hawk up some mucus daily, probably from nuts/seeds or avocados.
But wait... how could you hawk up stuff that's in your esophagus? Windpipe, sure, but there is nothing in the stomach to generate the air needed for hawking.
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: eveheart on December 27, 2014, 01:12:52 pm
that is if you believe there's stuff clinging to the wall of the colon...
Because if you do believe that the colon walls are plastered with a thick coat of baked on who-knows-what, then how could we be worried about leaky gut :P In the 1980s, there were a lot of nutritionists who were selling their regimens with pictures of rope-y strips of tire rubber purported to be the stuff that we had to cleanse out of our bowels. I did one of those cleanses and saw my own "tire rubber" that was being cleaned out.
What was that stuff? It was just ropes of the psyllium and clay that were portions of a liquid diet! Aided by pathological colon x-rays, those nutritionists had us pretty convinced that we had a well-paved colon. As Van said, show me a colon....
Now, that does not mean that cleansing isn't a real thing. In our bodies, every cell has a way to eliminate spent materials. All this cell cleansing is part of the natural flow of elements in the body. When you exhale, you are exhaling carbon dioxide, a gas that the body processes out. That doesn't mean that the carbon dioxide isn't supposed to be there, just that it's on its way out. Mucus is supposed to be present in a normal digestive tract - too much indicates an irritant, be you only need to remove the irritant and the mucus will return to its normal level.
It is sufficient to stop putting poisons in, in order that the body can clean itself through proper eating and exercise.
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: cherimoya_kid on December 27, 2014, 01:22:48 pm
But wait... how could you hawk up stuff that's in your esophagus? Windpipe, sure, but there is nothing in the stomach to generate the air needed for hawking.
It was coating my throat and areas just below, at least. I don't know how far down it went, but since it seemed to have no effect on my breathing, I'm thinking it did not go down the windpipe. It was weird stuff...clear, elastic, and strong. I could actually grab it and pull on it, but it went down pretty far, and would neither break off nor dislodge. Also, it was difficult to get a good grip on it, since it was mucus.
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: eveheart on December 27, 2014, 02:02:34 pm
It was coating my throat and areas just below, at least. I don't know how far down it went, but since it seemed to have no effect on my breathing, I'm thinking it did not go down the windpipe. It was weird stuff...clear, elastic, and strong. I could actually grab it and pull on it, but it went down pretty far, and would neither break off nor dislodge. Also, it was difficult to get a good grip on it, since it was mucus.
I'm still not buying. The wind and food pipes split just back of the tongue. The epiglottis protects food from going down the windpipe because it closes when you swallow. There is a sphincter at the top of the esophagus - that's the one you can tighten when you want to suppress a belch. I can't understand, from the physiological point of view, how the esophagus can hawk. Its lining is a mucus membrane, so it's supposed to be coated with a normal amount of mucus. Unless you are cleansing by vomiting, excess mucus in the esophagus has to pass downward to be eliminated.
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: cherimoya_kid on December 27, 2014, 09:35:40 pm
I'm still not buying. The wind and food pipes split just back of the tongue. The epiglottis protects food from going down the windpipe because it closes when you swallow. There is a sphincter at the top of the esophagus - that's the one you can tighten when you want to suppress a belch. I can't understand, from the physiological point of view, how the esophagus can hawk. Its lining is a mucus membrane, so it's supposed to be coated with a normal amount of mucus. Unless you are cleansing by vomiting, excess mucus in the esophagus has to pass downward to be eliminated.
I was only, with some difficulty, able to hawk the very upper portion of this layer, but it went much farther down. I could lift the very upper end of it away from the back of my tongue, but couldn't tear that part away from the rest, because of its strength and elasticity, and the difficulty of getting a grip on something so slippery.
I am under no illusion that everyone has this. I imagine it's confined to people with specific genes, eating certain foods. However, in those cases, I'm open to the possibility that it does extend into the colon. I'm not saying it does, just that it's possible.
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: jessica on December 27, 2014, 10:50:14 pm
. if you suspect nuts and seeds and avocado causing that issue why would you continue eating them? I was just offering the rosehips as a more native, less sugary medicine. There are gallons for the pickin around these parts, wild roses are pretty ubiquitous plants growing in many bio regions. They are also easy to find dried and in bulk, and inexpensive. If I were to eat the amount of apples per day that those cleanses recommend my blood sugar would be insanly irratic and I would probably also be detrimental to my teeth, coat my tounge in yeast, cause gas and earache as well. at least that is what's happened in the past with apples, they are extremely sweet these days, even older varieties.
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: van on December 28, 2014, 01:30:38 am
I agree with Jessica about apples being overly sweet. Back to the colon. If you look at an unhealthy older man's nose, often it's swollen and red. I equate this with the colon. He may or may not have mucous on the inside of his nose, but the tissues that comprise the nose itself, I bet, are full of toxins causing poor circulation and swelling. I believe the same is true for the colon. The inner tissues become clogged up like a filter and the health declines, nutrients don't flow in as efficiently and toxins aren't expelled as easily. So yes, when cleansing,, those toxins can be aided in moving through the tissues into the colon canal, and hence believed to have been attached to the colon wall.
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: cherimoya_kid on December 28, 2014, 09:57:04 am
. if you suspect nuts and seeds and avocado causing that issue why would you continue eating them? I was just offering the rosehips as a more native, less sugary medicine. There are gallons for the pickin around these parts, wild roses are pretty ubiquitous plants growing in many bio regions. They are also easy to find dried and in bulk, and inexpensive. If I were to eat the amount of apples per day that those cleanses recommend my blood sugar would be insanly irratic and I would probably also be detrimental to my teeth, coat my tounge in yeast, cause gas and earache as well. at least that is what's happened in the past with apples, they are extremely sweet these days, even older varieties.
For some people with blood sugar issues, apples should be eaten with something else to slow the rise in blood sugar, like celery.
My mucus problems are certainly manageable, I was just giving all the necessary info. I only had that thick mucus coating on the SAD.
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: political atheist on December 29, 2014, 05:24:36 am
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: van on December 29, 2014, 06:24:45 am
First the guy is selling or promoting Kangen water machines and claims results are from the water. For some that might immediately raise suspicion. Second do we really know they are showing the same patient from before and after? Third, obviously there is no large pieces of poop in side colons shown. There for we can assume some type of evacuation or enemas was used. Could it not be entirely possible that for the 'after' shots they simply did a second enema or a colon hydrotherapy procedure for longer time periods thus removing more poop. I am not saying that poop doesn't get stuck along the way. I am saying that with time it continues out, and doesn't turn into a cement like plaque whereby someone needs to take aggressive action to remove it. I am also suggesting that following a raw pale diet with a wide variety of foods included that your whole body will cleanse and heal, and that includes your colon. But people like to take control and get impatient or look to special procedures which they can place their faith in,, especially if it costs money.
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: eveheart on December 29, 2014, 06:46:55 am
That video is entitled DR. HIROMI SHINYA PROVES THAT POOR FOOD CHOICES LEAVE RESIDUES IN THE INTESTINES. It attributes results to drinking enough water plus eating a pure (vegetarian) diet. So, basically, it says if you go from burgers, fries, and a shake to eating whole foods, your colon will quite rapidly return to an appearance that is not coated with overly thick mucus and incomplete elimination. That's exactly the reason why I don't think that colon cleansing is necessary - if you start a healthy lifestyle, the colon starts unclogging and returns to a normal coating of clear mucus. Kangen water is just a alkalinizing water purification system.
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: political atheist on February 06, 2015, 01:47:05 am
i was on a clean diet for 2 yeas and still didnt improved health wise.
i did a cleanse with a sluphuric substance(i cant say the complete name because it is the most powerful detox substance discovered by russians, it will pull ALL the stuff not belonging in the body) for 6 weeks, and i had 10- 20 BMs per day, for 6 weeks, eliminating incredible stuff(i saw flukes, woms, liver stones, metal smelling stuff)
so what did this sulphur substance eliminate from my body for 6 weeks, everyday, if there is nothing stuck to the colon wall?
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: eveheart on February 06, 2015, 02:13:37 am
What was this Russian substance, magnesium sulfate? That will clean you out, we have discussed it on this forum.
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: sabertooth on February 06, 2015, 12:21:56 pm
I'm with eve on this one, the colon will cleanse itself, given the proper nutrition and adequate hydration.
Please, for anyone out there who has flushed out fluke worms or other parasites using these cleanses, post some pictures?
There have been a number of people make such claims that they have been able to clean out parasitic infections using these cleansing protocol, and I am not convinced. Further more unless people are really flushing parasites out, it is reckless to suggest long term artificial cleansing protocol, because it can potentially deplete the guts natural defenses and inhibit the adaptation to a raw paleo based diet.
Many newbies come here with past issues and may have weird gut issues that could not be properly diagnosed. Looking for answers many have been fed a lot of propaganda about how everyone is full of colon gunk, and parasites needing to be purged out. In general I think this something to be discouraged( unless there is tangible proof that there is such an issue)
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: goodsamaritan on February 06, 2015, 12:32:15 pm
Castor oil, Dr. Tam's Miracle Tea... these colon cleanses have saved my friends and family from SURGERY for appendicitis.
These same colon cleanses have cured people from GERD / Acid Reflux... routinely, expectedly, logically.
These colon cleanses are TOOLS to get things done when you need it. It is your choice if you want to use it or not.
I cannot expect most of the people I heal to switch to a raw paleo diet. So this tool gets things done and saves the day.
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: eveheart on February 06, 2015, 01:58:04 pm
I'm not saying that colon cleanses don't strip out the mucus of the colon plus whatever that mucus was sweeping away. Many mucus-membrane irritants (salt water, Epsom salts, castor oil, etc.) can achieve this result, but they all work by means of irritating the delicate walls of the colon. Upon being irritated, the colon signals the body to send extra water into the colon to wash out the irritant. There may be a benefit to hurrying this along faster than nature would do it, but somewhat short of life-or-death, I wouldn't use a method that breaks down what I am trying to build up. The colon absorbs the nutrients our body needs, and it still does its job even when there is extra mucus. But if you assault the colon, it has to defend itself before it can nourish you.
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: goodsamaritan on February 06, 2015, 07:20:36 pm
Yes I agree with you there, Eve. The colon needs to be nourished. I experienced nourishing my own colon using Barefoot Herbalist MH's LBB capsules for 60 days... they are amazing. Did the same for my son too when he was sick. The original herbal formula came from Dr. Christopher.
Aajonus Vonderplanitz has his own method too using high meat and his primal diet. (but if one is allergic to dairy, leave the dairy out)
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: eveheart on February 06, 2015, 11:54:18 pm
Yes I agree with you there, Eve. The colon needs to be nourished.
Sorry, GS, but that is not what I said! The colon is the gate through which our nutrients must pass, literally. It doesn't pass those nutrients when it has to get rid of an irritant. Sure, folks want a "magic bullet" instant cure, but colon irritation is not a cure, even if it makes some symptoms better. Even the bowel herbs are nothing more than bitter plants, and we should be eating some bitter foods anyway, not concentrating them to use as bowel irritants.
With RPD, we have a powerful healing tool, so why make it look like RPD needs medicine and procedures to make it work?
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: sabertooth on February 07, 2015, 12:13:43 am
For people who have not been on a wholesome diet and have issues with excess mucus, or other digestive track issues, a flushing may relieve symptoms and temporarily make one feel better ,but it should be made clear that the real cleaning comes with long-term diet and lifestyle changes.
For those people who are unwilling or able to adopt the optimal dietary changes, perhaps there is some merit in periodic cleanse protocol, and there is room for people who are working with stubborn patients who are not willing to go paleo to use colon cleanse as a last resort.
So when advocating the benefits of these cleanses, I think that there should be a distinction, that they are primarily tools to be used by people who are unable or unwilling to make the full transition into Raw Paleo.
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: political atheist on February 08, 2015, 04:03:50 am
its not magnesium sulfate, it is 100 times stronger what i took
again, what was coming out of my colon for 6 weeks, everyday? what was all of that shit? from where did all of that shit come from?
how do you deal with leaky gut, candida, worms?
to assume you dont have worms and flukes is completely ridiculous, out great grand parents knew to do at least 2 parasite cleanses per year, to deworm their animals as well....
if you never done a deworming cleanse, you are 110% full of worms
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: sabertooth on February 08, 2015, 05:44:23 am
Show me the worms?
I am not doubting that people have worms and parasites, I personally have suffered from blood parasites, and I may have seen some whip worms in my stool, but that is besides the point.
I think it is foolish to believe that even if you do have flukes and worms, that by simply doing some naturalistic colon flush, you will somehow be cured. Usually parasitic gut infection is symptomatic of other issues, such as a weakened immune system, systemic toxicity, nutritional imbalance, or some other environmental dysfunction,. Flushing them out with herbs and whatnots will not cure them, and it is foolish to believe that someone following a raw paleo diet must continually have turn to these cleansing protocol in order to purge yourself of nematodes.
If you nourish the gut and restore the proper gut ecology then you will build up a natural resistance, but if you never allow the immune system to do what it is designed to do then no amount of flushing will restore you to health.
Now if you truly have an infestation and it is preventing you from establishing good health, then perhaps you should get clinically diagnosed and treated? Tyler got treated for tape worms, and although drugs are not usually condoned here, it may be more prudent in the long run to take one treatment of worming medication, than to have to continually flush them out via some 'Natural method".
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: eveheart on February 08, 2015, 06:27:53 am
again, what was coming out of my colon for 6 weeks, everyday? what was all of that shit? from where did all of that shit come from?
Mucus is what was coming out for 6 weeks. Think of it in terms of a cold in your nose: you keep blowing thick snot (mucus) out of your nose, but until the membranes have been healed, the snot keeps building up. There is no point in provoking a flood of mucus once the mucus has done its job of flushing out the original irritant.
Back to the colon, you'll find that it keeps producing copious mucus in reaction to the "cleansing" irritants. Let the organ heal, and it will be coated with a thin layer of clear mucus, the way nature intended. (The colon is, after all, a mucus membrane.)
I was duped into the colon-cleansing craze back in the 1990s, so I've seen the shit coming out of my colon, too. Even though you see stuff coming out, the explanation that the colon cleansing guys give is not accurate in terms of gut healing. If you want a seasonal clean-out, why not try eating bitter melon every year, or some other traditional practice with non-concentrated foods or teas?
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: A_Tribe_Called_Paleo on February 08, 2015, 03:00:21 pm
Sorry guys, this may be a newbie question but is ACV considered an Irritant or laxative?
Drink 1-2 tbps with 8oz water 3 times daily.
It's helping me out a lot, just want to make sure it's not doing internal damage unknowingly.
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: eveheart on February 08, 2015, 03:34:18 pm
ACV is fermented apple juice. It's a food with lots of probiotics, assuming you get raw ACV.
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: political atheist on February 08, 2015, 04:58:45 pm
read this testimony http://organicolivia.com/2014/02/25/everyone-has-parasites-part-two-my/ (http://organicolivia.com/2014/02/25/everyone-has-parasites-part-two-my/)
''Results The First Time You do not feel them crawling out. They don’t come out alive. They don’t come out alone. They come out impacted into your bowels, hidden by the bulk of your stool. You will see certain parts of worms sticking out, but nothing crazy. It is recommended that you keep gloves and plastic tools in the bathroom in order to find out WHAT parasite is infesting you the most so that you can target it. If you don’t want to, I understand! Just cleansing is most important, you don’t HAVE to look.
Long story short, I got tons of worms out. Flatworms, roundworms, pieces of worms, liver flukes, sheep flukes, larvae, eggs, adults, everything under the sun. I also got a lot of candida out. I felt a lot of headaches while the worms were dying. They only come out dead, so don’t worry, but when they die they release toxic ammonia into your body that gives you detox symptoms like dizziness, flu symptoms, headaches, fatigue, malaise, etc. That’s why you should be doing a COLON CLEANSE while you parasite cleanse, to remove the ammonia and toxins. They go hand and hand, and the colon cleanse will eliminate dead parasite casings and toxins that get stuck in your colon.
My digestion got better, I wasn’t bloated for the first time in years, I was in a better mood, I stopped grinding my teeth, I slept better, my under eye bags went away, and best of all MY SKIN CLEARED UP! Also, any dandruff went away! Honestly, the benefits were absolutely endless. I would recommend a cleanse to anyone, but with a few amendments:
What I Did Wrong Three things I did wrong: 1) Not colon cleansing while parasite cleansing 2) Not repeating the cleanse after a week’s break (you should repeat parasite cleanses until you are NO LONGER PASSING ANY, check your stool) 3) Not keeping up with maintenance doses''
i have the same symptoms as this person: digestion, bloated all the time, even when i fast, bad mood, grinding my teeth, sunken/hollow eyes with darkness under them and skin problems, and dandruff... my bowels also gurgle a lot.
the sulphur compound i used was used by russians to cleanse the body of heavy metals, radiation, parasites(yeast/fungus/worms etc.), vapours from the lung of mine workers and other stuff which does not belong into the body.
also what about the actor who got 30+ pounds of rotten shit in his bowels discovered after his death?
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: jessica on February 08, 2015, 11:56:07 pm
about the link above: i think she has all of these "symptoms of parasites" because she probably eats a diet high in almonds, juices and other weird supplemental food stuff instead of just eating basic meat, fats, greens and veggie, so i dont trust that she is "cured of parasites" just that the pills she was taking temporarily relieved whatever symptoms she has from her diet. read her first post on her digestion blog "why you should only drink hot water" why? because you are still doing something wrong with your diet and lifestyle that is casuing you to be cold, have cold hands and feet, etc...and while hot water may be good for temporary and for healing events, its definitely not something you should have to have available. in the past 7 years i have gone from needing hot water all the time and not being able to drink cold water because it made me cold or felt stuck in my belly to being able to tolerate both and liking cool to cold water the best for actually feeling refreshed. i think a lot of these women who suffer from coldness do so because they are at too low of a weight for vanity reasons, dont live a robust enough lifestyle(probably also for vanity reasons) and eat an imbalanced diet that is too low in animal fat. this probably causes hormonal issues, which lead to digestive issues and other symptoms they feel like they need to constantly remedy and flush as well.
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: sabertooth on February 09, 2015, 02:45:30 am
I had candida, leaky gut and blood parasites, and tried herbal cleanses, along with anti Candia dietary protocol, and though there were some instances of temporary relieve, in the long run they only aggravated the problem. Candida overgrowth, leaky gut, excess mucus or parasitic infection are symptomatic of other issues, and are not a direct cause. By adopting protocols that focus primarily on flushing out the willies, people often throw the baby with the bath water, and although they may feel they are cleaning out toxins they may also be flushing out the other factors which are essential for establishing a healthy and balanced gut ecology.
I don't buy into anyone claiming to flush out multiple types of nematodes using one of these cleansing protocol, so me the pictures and I might believe.
Seriously, If I had worms in my stool, and thought it would be relevant to the discussion I would take pictures and post it. People may see what they think are wormy things in their stools after a flush, that may be something else entirely. These accounts of monsters in the gut are just not credible without tangible proof.
Title: Re: Colon cleanse
Post by: nummi on February 09, 2015, 03:28:34 am