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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => Health => Topic started by: CHK91 on December 28, 2010, 01:24:36 am
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Sorry guys. :( I know that it is bad etiquette to make threads close together, but I have some concerns that worry me.
I been eating RAF diet for about 3 days. I have eaten cooked food almost every day before that. Starting about last night I started to feel ill. I had this terrible eczema flare that made me feel like stabbing my rashes. I also have been feeling flu-ish, inflamed, and old. Is this normal and has this happened to any of you? Or is this some other problem like food poisoning? ???
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some will say this is normal "detox effects". i personally do not buy that kind of explanation.
if it goes away in a few days, great.
if this condition continues i would go back to the previous diet and maybe try paleo principles again later.
there are at least 3 people on this forum who had mild to very severe side effect form this diet: yuri (rawlion), mrbbq, forthehunt
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I know that ys could be completely correct but at the same time your symptoms are like the definition of detox. Anyways to better help you please give us a daily menu plan of what you have been eating so far. I personally felt like crap and had my eczema flare up when I first went paleo.
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The eczema and the itching is so bad that I'm swearing like a maniac. My feet are in a baking soda bath as I write this. Glad my family left for vacation yesterday. :P
The first day
Breakfast
3 raw eggs
1tbsp coconut oil
raw ground beef -I ate it like sashimi and used wasabi and wrapped it in lettuce
Lunch
raw milk kefir
1tbsp coconut oil
1 avocado
raw beef liver - eaten like sashimi
Dinner
raw ground beef - Same way but used balsalmic vinegar
1tbsp coconut oil
2nd Day
Breakfast
3 raw eggs
raw ground beef - ate it the same way
1tbsp coconut oil
Lunch
Raw milk kefir
1tbsp coconut oil
avocado
Dinner
raw ground beef - same way
raw salmon
1tbsp coconut oil
Today
Breakfast
3 raw eggs
1/2 avocado
1tbsp coconut oil
raw ground beef
Lunch
Raw milk kefir
raw beef liver - eaten like sashimi
1tbsp coconut oil
I have also been eating some lard. I know it's not exactly raw but I figured I needed more animal fat. I don't have animal fat or suet yet.
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it looks ok.
but it sounds like you have some kind of allergic reaction to something.
it this issue continues, i would go back to my last good known diet and start introducing new items one at a time.
some reported negative reactions to eggs and milk products.
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Hmmm... I've been drinking raw milk and eating eggs before this. I haven't changed my milk source either. I have never reacted violently to my current milk source. I avoid other cow dairy products containing casein like the plague like raw cheese. Raw cow cheese from all other breeds besides guernsey is like poison for me. Butter is usually fine no matter where it comes from. Could I have become allergic over such a short time to the milk I have been drinking?
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Yes, it could be due to an allergic reaction. Raw coconut oil causes a lot of problems for some people as does raw dairy and raw eggs. Still others have issues with all raw carbs. All depends on an individual's genetics, personal health-problems prior to the diet and so on.
Try elimination diets to see if you improve by excluding 1 type of food at a time.
As for detoxes, they do indeed exist and are common (and necessary) on any truly healthy diet, in order for toxins to leave the body properly. When I first started the diet I got 2-3 days of near-constant green diarrhea, then, every 2 to 4 months I would get mild flu-like symptoms(eg:- fatigue, hot forehead, runny nose), lasting from 2 to 7 days; each time these detox episodes lessened in terms of severity, duration and frequency, until they disappeared altogether after 2 or 3 years.
As for the other comment on various people not doing well on the diet, call me a sceptic, but I suspect that a large proportion(though certainly not all) of those continually reporting ever-increasing and new health-problems are actually suffering from hypochondria rather than anything serious.
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So it should last for about 2-3 days?
What should I do in the meantime to reduce detox symptoms? Is drinking a lot of water a good thing?
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Why do you eat that much? Didn't you heard about the 1 meal a day plan try it maybe you eat too much raw when your body is not really used to it(you said its your third day).
Do You feel hunger when you eat? Perhaps try eating only when feeling hungry,exclude the diary from the diet, try one meal a day, do some fasting.
And start slow your body has to change the way its digests/assimilates/eliminates food because raw is just different.
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Why do you eat that much? Didn't you heard about the 1 meal a day plan try it maybe you eat too much raw when your body is not really used to it(you said its your third day).
Do You feel hunger when you eat? Perhaps try eating only when feeling hungry,exclude the diary from the diet, try one meal a day, do some fasting.
And start slow your body has to change the way its digests/assimilates/eliminates food because raw is just different.
I didn't eat that much, and I did eat when I was hungry. I eat smaller portions usually. I will eliminate the dairy and see what happens.
Is it possible to live on just one meal? It's a relatively new concept to me. Is it possible to eat a day's worth of calories in one sitting without feeling great digestive discomfort? I spread out my meals in smaller portions because my digestion is very weak.
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The eczema and the itching is so bad that I'm swearing like a maniac. My feet are in a baking soda bath as I write this. Glad my family left for vacation yesterday. :P
The first day
Breakfast
3 raw eggs
1tbsp coconut oil
raw ground beef -I ate it like sashimi and used wasabi and wrapped it in lettuce
Lunch
raw milk kefir
1tbsp coconut oil
1 avocado
raw beef liver - eaten like sashimi
Dinner
raw ground beef - Same way but used balsalmic vinegar
1tbsp coconut oil
2nd Day
Breakfast
3 raw eggs
raw ground beef - ate it the same way
1tbsp coconut oil
Lunch
Raw milk kefir
1tbsp coconut oil
avocado
Dinner
raw ground beef - same way
raw salmon
1tbsp coconut oil
Today
Breakfast
3 raw eggs
1/2 avocado
1tbsp coconut oil
raw ground beef
Lunch
Raw milk kefir
raw beef liver - eaten like sashimi
1tbsp coconut oil
I have also been eating some lard. I know it's not exactly raw but I figured I needed more animal fat. I don't have animal fat or suet yet.
I would stop. I started getting eczema and ended up with a big patch on my neck. Fucking blows.
It is fading now - but I didn't stop and the patch got bigger and bigger.
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Man... I don't know what to do. I do like what I have been doing so far because my digestive system doesn't seem as stressed. I feel good after eating. I used to get some minor soreness around my abdomen. That's gone now. Eczema and feeling sick is a bummer though.
I have changed my diet drastically in the last 5-6 weeks or so. I did try a gradual transition. I started with dairy then eggs then all the other meats. There was a period of fatigue because my body had to get used to using fats for fuel and I slashed my carbs close to zero. I probably transitioned too fast. I am willing to weather this storm as long as I feel better. I wasn't sure whether the reaction I had was safe or "natural" so I had some concerns.
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So it should last for about 2-3 days?
What should I do in the meantime to reduce detox symptoms? Is drinking a lot of water a good thing?
Either ride it out, or eat a little cooked foods to slow down the detox. But try elimination diets first to see if it is something other than detox, first.
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Just curious, -\
Is a RAF diet more effective for eliminating candida than a cooked no/low carb diet?
If so what is the mechanism behind this?
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You definitely need to get a good source of grassfed fat, I consider it an essential element in my diet. I eat at least a quarter pound or more each day, usually lamb fat, but I also eat fatty cuts of meat along with it.
Try to replace dairy with some raw grassfed fats an at least reduce your coconut oil intake, I also eat coconut butter its more expensive but I think its much better than plain oil. I will eat about a jar every five days.
I have a love hate issue with eggs as well, most store bought eggs are questionable in quality, There are some pasture eggs available at the health food store but they are expensive, most of the lower quality eggs have a bad taste and I will only tolerate them if I have a particular craving and am short on money.
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I used to get some minor soreness around my abdomen. That's gone now. Eczema and feeling sick is a bummer though.
I used to suffer from pain in my abdomen, I think it was from a conjested liver, you are probably clogged up as well and cant eliminate properly. It does suck I was there about a year ago, I got great improvement on this diet,
The good Samaritan has experience with helping eczema, perhaps he can give some advice.
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Is a RAF diet more effective for eliminating candida than a cooked no/low carb diet?
If so what is the mechanism behind this?
I have a more holistic approach to dealing with candida, I think that you have to first, nourish your body with the optimal foods and build up the strength of the mitochondria within the cells(with plenty of grassfed fat) once your body becomes properly nourished then it will begin the function of clearing out the fungus naturally. There is no way to flush it out until the body is nourished enough to handle the dieoff. I think a body that is so poisoned with candida that it cant handle elimination of metabolic waste and becomes congested, doesn't need to add the extra burden of the toxins created by cooking. Raw foods being free from these toxins provide a more option. Raw animal fats are extremely cleansing.
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I wouldn't bet on raw GROUND beef.
Did you grind it yourself?
Buy whole slabs / chunks.
Is your coconut oil Virgin Coconut Oil?
You might be allergic to it.
Have you done any other detox protocols as described in http://www.curemanual.com/detox-protocols-and-treatments/ ?
If not, then you might look into doing those detox protocols so you don't suffer the detoxing / healing crisis you are getting now.
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I wouldn't bet on raw GROUND beef.
Did you grind it yourself?
Buy whole slabs / chunks.
Is your coconut oil Virgin Coconut Oil?
You might be allergic to it.
Have you done any other detox protocols as described in http://www.curemanual.com/detox-protocols-and-treatments/ ?
If not, then you might look into doing those detox protocols so you don't suffer the detoxing / healing crisis you are getting now.
Not from 100% grass fed sources either? I do plan on getting steaks/roasts from now on though. I have a chuck roast(not going to actually roast it XD) in the fridge thawing. Will have it tomorrow.
Is it bad if it is Virgin Coconut Oil? I've been taking coconut oil like this even before I started this diet to help with the candida problem. I never thought that coconut could be allergenic. ???
Thanks for the site link. I will read through it. :)
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I know many people swears on coconut oil but my body does not like it at all, same with any other plant oil.
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Two things:
Raw salmon breaks me out- its the omega 3s for some strange reason. (Happens for me with omega-3 supplements as well) So maybe test avoiding that.
Also, kefir contains casein. The bacteria feast on the lactose sugar in the milk and not the casein, so the protein remains still in solution.
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Two things:
Raw salmon breaks me out- its the omega 3s for some strange reason. (Happens for me with omega-3 supplements as well) So maybe test avoiding that.
Also, kefir contains casein. The bacteria feast on the lactose sugar in the milk and not the casein, so the protein remains still in solution.
While omega-3s might well be an issue, I would think another option was more likely:- that you find certain processed foods unhealthy for you - salmon is almost always farmed ad the farmed version contains hefty amounts of toxic stuff such as cabnthaxanthin etc. And all supplements these days have some form of preservative/chemical which can cause side-effects for some people.
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Before my phase with veganism, I loved eating raw fish. It was a food that invigorated me. The salmon that I ate was also wild, so I doubt toxins are a issue.
I feel a little better today. I have that "hangover" sick feeling. My eczema isn't flaring; the spots are just sore. I have been sleeping a lot more the last few days. I guess my body is trying to recover.
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I know that ys could be completely correct but at the same time your symptoms are like the definition of detox. Anyways to better help you please give us a daily menu plan of what you have been eating so far. I personally felt like crap and had my eczema flare up when I first went paleo.
Yes it's clearly detox... But the difference is whether it's detoxing from the new foods, or whether new foods are helping one detox from past stuff.
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My appetite has been weak last night and today. My weight is actually going down a bit which may not necessarily be a bad thing since I'm skinnyfat.
Today, I ate about 1000 calories yet I don't feel hungry at all. I actually feel satiated. Has anyone had this experience? Sick people don't tend to have good appetites but I'm just curious.
I am not really a big guy in any sense so 1000 isn't really too shocking to me.
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Eating the whole eggs is IMO not good.
Throw away the whites and eat only the yolk.
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No wonder you’re not well, that's a totally fanciful diet: kefir, coconut oil, ground beef wrapped in lettuce, vinegar… ???
Eating the whole eggs is IMO not good.
Throw away the whites and eat only the yolk.
Most people don’t like the whites, but I do like it and at times I can eat up to 10 or 12 whites and sometimes even a few more yolks than whites. To know if you should eat the white or not, take it separately. A former friend didn’t like the whites, so she kept it for me in a jar and I drank it like a nectar.
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The issue re avidin binding the biotin in raw eggs is not really a big deal. It's only supposed to be a problem if one eats 24 or more raw eggs a day, which only extremist Primal Dieters do. That said, the avidin is all in the raw egg-white, so one should always eat the yolk along with the white. Raw eggs anyway should never be a major staple of a rawpalaeodiet as raw eggs were only ever eaten seasonally in small amounts at a time given that domestication of birds was not a way of life in the palaeolithic era.
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Not only birds lay eggs: turtles, alligators, crocodiles, iguanas and so on do. I was never fortunate to eat the latter's eggs, though, but sea turtle's eggs. They lay about 120 eggs at once in the sand!
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The issue re avidin binding the biotin in raw eggs is not really a big deal.
White contains enzyme inhibitors, which are problematic. Howell wrote about that issue.
Raw eggs anyway should never be a major staple of a rawpalaeodiet as raw eggs were only ever eaten seasonally in small amounts at a time given that domestication of birds was not a way of life in the palaeolithic era.
Not necessarily true.
During "bird seasons" in Greenland or Northern Canada there are quite a lot of eggs which are eaten by Inuits.
And the birds are truly wild.
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I guess there is always a catch to eating stationary food. Damn evolutionary defense mechanisms. :P
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Not only birds lay eggs: turtles, alligators, crocodiles, iguanas and so on do. I was never fortunate to eat the latter's eggs, though, but sea turtle's eggs. They lay about 120 eggs at once in the sand!
Yes, but how likely is one to be near a breeding site where tutles lay eggs en masse. I suspect that people might get a short window of opprtunity during early spring where they could eat lots of raw eggs for a couple of weeks, but after that point, it would be very hit-and-miss.
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Are these detoxes supposed to happen often in the first few months? It's been a week since my last supposed detox ended, and I'm getting the same symptoms again, though not as bad. I eliminated the dairy completely during this period as a precautionary measure.
Is this going to be a random occurrence or will there be some pattern to this?
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It takes some time, CHK91, but it should gradually decrease in intensity if you do things properly. The first year I was rather tired sometimes, with highs and lows, but it stabilized until feeling great most of the time (although other parameters than food have also a large influence). It seems it has been the same for most people.
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Are these detoxes supposed to happen often in the first few months? It's been a week since my last supposed detox ended, and I'm getting the same symptoms again, though not as bad. I eliminated the dairy completely during this period as a precautionary measure.
Is this going to be a random occurrence or will there be some pattern to this?
Should be random. Some claim they never detoxed(usually those who did big-time fasts before transitioning or the like), while others experienced a regular series of detoxes etc.
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I did allot of intermittent fasting right before I found this diet, not because I wanted to, I was just so sick I couldn't eat anything without pain and thought if I fasted regularly I would eventually kill the yeast and lower my blood sugars.
Its didn't work and I became malnourished and extremely underweight although I believe I may have been able to lower my toxin load so when I did have a detox at about 3 weeks into the raw diet it was mild and I began to feel great immediately after. I had some more mild supposed detoxes that were nothing more than a few instances of diarrhea along with some fatigue, but after each occurrence I began to feel good soon after. around the 3 month mark They went away.
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I sure hope these ill symptoms are detox for everyone's sake..
Last time I thought I was just detoxing was when I went on a kind of vegan diet extremely high in fiber and everything went downhill and continued to do so until I returned to a SAD. Well, actually I always suspect that I might be continually detoxing, judging by my skin, but it's so frustrating knowing whether or not it simply is detox.
I do think I've learned a lot, and it took quite some suffering. I know I am on the right track when I feel better, and not when I feel worse and simply put it off as detox. That's why I have so much confidence in this raw paleo diet. I seem to get very short bursts of symptoms eating raw paleo now, not a continuous downhill spiral, so I know for one that this probably isn't damaging. I've tried almost everything until I got here, and I do notice a big difference now.
The first time I bit into my first raw steak up to a few weeks later, I felt like my body has finally started healing and it's getting exactly what it needed.
OP, you're not alone here. I'm not feeling so great at the moment. It is very strange though how my symptoms are fluctuating so strongly. One day I will have all the energy in the world and I'll go out and do something and have fun, be happy, strong and sleep extremely well, and the next I will be fatigued to some degree and find it extremely hard to get any rest while breaking out with acne usually along the lymph vessels.
Are your symptoms going on and off randomly like this too, or has it been continuous?
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After being on the raw paleo diet for 3 days, I had a period of discomfort that lasted 3 days. For a week I felt very well compared to how I had been feeling. It seemed like I was finally recovering. The symptoms started again, though with lesser intensity. The flu-like symptoms haven't been as strong, and I didn't have to dip my rashes into very hot water while swearing this time ;D. It is slightly demoralizing since I became "addicted" to that period of wellbeing. It is likely only a bump in the road, and I will fight on. :)
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i have detox symptoms (loose bowels & feeling ill) whenever i have raw beef liver. Maybe its a bad batch. I got a new batch of frozen liver from northstartbison - will report how that goes.
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i have detox symptoms (loose bowels & feeling ill) whenever i have raw beef liver. Maybe its a bad batch. I got a new batch of frozen liver from northstartbison - will report how that goes.
OMG. You too? :o
I can't tell if it actually is detox or that the extremely high copper content of liver is aggravating my already copper toxic body. It's so hard to figure out.
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CHK91,
thats really interesting. How did you figure out that you have a copper overload?
And how are you fixing it?
Do you avoid liver or do you take it cooked? Somehow this detox does not happen when i have it cooked (boiled).
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Almost all vegans and recently defected vegans have high copper compared to zinc. Animal foods generally have a much higher ratio of zinc to copper than plants. Plants also have antinutrients that block zinc absorption. If you have ever seen vegans who claim that they have so much energy yet look on edge, high copper load is part of why that is. Copper is stimulating and eventually the adrenals will crash due to overstimulation. For those that have corrected their diets, uncomfortable symptoms will occur as the body eliminates the excess copper. When I started adding meats back into my diet, I felt horrible because zinc deficiency weakens protein digestion and I was starting to eliminate a lot of copper. My mind gradually became calm again as the detox symptoms became weaker. One condition caused by excess copper that paralyzed me was the OCD personality. People who are copper toxic tend to become rigid and inflexible which is why there are many vegans who continue to do what they do even if it is killing them.
There is a genetic condition called Wilson's disease that causes copper accumulation. Copper toxic people would share many symptoms as those with Wilson's disease.
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If you have ever seen vegans who claim that they have so much energy yet look on edge, high copper load is part of why that is. One condition caused by excess copper that paralyzed me was the OCD personality. People who are copper toxic tend to become rigid and inflexible which is why there are many vegans who continue to do what they do even if it is killing them.
CHK91,
this is exactly me in my vegan(@#$%%) days. Now i am much more relaxed.
Do you recommend that i continue with the liver and these detox symptoms will lessen? Is there anything else i can do to speed up this copper detox?
Also what is 'OCD personality'?
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CHK91,
read up on OCD personality. That was me exactly. Thanks once again.
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I'm actually going to lay off the liver for a while. I guess I'll eat more kidneys instead for high vitamin meat.
As long as you are eating plenty of red meats(sans ruminant liver) and low amounts of plant food, you should eventually balance out. If you really want to speed things up, you could take a zinc supplement.
Apparently, pork liver is supposed to be much much lower in copper that in ruminants.
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/pork-products/2195/2
Holy crap, that's a lot...
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/beef-products/3468/2
I hope pork liver tastes good. XP
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CHK91,
Thanks a lot for this information.
Plant food means "both fruits and vegetable" or only vegetables?
Do you recommend any good zinc supplement?
Or is it best to avoid them, as they are not paleo.
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If you are not avoiding carbohydrates, some plant food isn't necessarily bad. Just don't make it a major staple and keep eating red meats. If you eat nuts, don't eat too many of them since they also have high copper. Even if they are paleo, they have anti-nutrients and are hard to digest like any other seed so it's not even an ideal food. I do take a zinc supplement. It's called Optizinc by Source Naturals. If you still have those symptoms you could start out with a higher dosage and gradually reduce dosage as you feel more tranquil. Remember that the aim to balance the copper with zinc not completely get rid of it. Eventually you should stop. Zinc is supposed to stimulate the logical brain, the neocortex. My rigidity actually started to let go during my vegan phase as I was supplementing zinc. Copper stimulates the diencephalon which is part of the limbic system which is thought to be important in regulation of emotion. This would explain the high-strung vegan mannerisms. Their crusade of saving all the animals is based only on emotion after all.
It feels strange for me criticize them, since I was vegan a few months ago. However, now that my mind is thinking logically, I realize how foolish I was. -[
Shame about that Durianriders guy. He doesn't realize what has happened to him. Just by looking at him it is obvious he is copper toxic, high-strung, emotionally unstable, and religiously rigid.
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Zinc is supposed to stimulate the logical brain, the neocortex. My rigidity actually started to let go during my vegan phase as I was supplementing zinc. Copper stimulates the diencephalon which is part of the limbic system which is thought to be important in regulation of emotion. This would explain the high-strung vegan mannerisms. Their crusade of saving all the animals is based only on emotion after all.
It feels strange for me criticize them, since I was vegan a few months ago. However, now that my mind is thinking logically, I realize how foolish I was. -[
CHK91,Totally understand what you are saying, i was vegan too few months back. Checked out the supplement you suggested it contains "silicon dioxide, stearic acid, and magnesium stearate". i heard bad things about them. What do you think?
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CHK91,Totally understand what you are saying, i was vegan too few months back. Checked out the supplement you suggested it contains "silicon dioxide, stearic acid, and magnesium stearate". i heard bad things about them. What do you think?
What bad things are you talking about?
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magnesium stearate is a immunosuppresant, hinder absorption.
on googling i find arguments on both sides, depending upon who you read.
this why i arrived at this supp, as its in a water base:
http://www.thorne.com/Products/Minerals/Zinc/prd~ZN.jsp
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Gawd... Health seems to become more complicated by the day. I never thought the additives would be a big deal since there isn't much and I wasn't planning to do it forever. The copper/zinc imbalance seemed like a more serious concern when I started.
Btw, that product isn't for supplementation. It is only a taste test for zinc deficiency.
I actually looked at some other supplements. There will always be some questionable ingredient. I don't think it's good to dwell too much on ingredients that we're not even sure does anything harmful.
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CHK91,
its primarily for testing, but if you read carefully it sez that it can be used for supplementation but the dosage is small.
I totally agree there will be some issue or the other - so lets pick our poisons ;D
I have had issues with titanium dioxide - so i am little paranoid about additives after that - so its just me.
Are raw eggs okay to eat for our condition (copper overload)?
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Most of us are already trying really hard to avoid environment toxins that we know are harmful. It will drive us INSANE if we dwell too much on environmental toxins that are only speculated to be harmful. The minuscule amount of aromatic hydrocarbons I breathe while at the gas station is probably more harmful than magnesium stearate XP. If your body is being supplied with adequate nutrients, it will be better equipped to deal with foreign contaminants, whatever they may be.
Eggs are balanced and should be no problem. It's actually very beneficial. Zinc and copper are balanced. The high cysteine and selenium content will help with metallothionein production which will help remove excess copper and other heavy metals from the system. It also will improve protein digestion.
Vegan diets are poor in selenium and cysteine so they are already in state that promotes copper and other heavy metal accumulation. Eventually, as protein digestion weakens, more and more undigested protein enters the intestine causing all sorts of nasty effects which I had to learn about the hard way.
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Eggs are balanced and should be no problem. It's actually very beneficial. Zinc and copper are balanced. The high cysteine and selenium content will help with metallothionine production which will help remove excess copper and other heavy metals from the system. It also will improve protein digestion.
Vegan diets are poor in selenium and cysteine so they are already in state that promotes copper and other heavy metal accumulation. Eventually, as protein digestion weakens, more and more undigested protein enters the intestine causing all sort of nasty effects which I had to learn about the hard way.
How do recommend we should have eggs?
Presently i take the yolk and whites seperately. For yolk i mix with olive oil(EVOO) and lemon juice (liver cleanser), after a few hours (after the yolks are digested) i have the whites with little lemon juice and a little olive oil, just to improve the taste( I know EVOO and lemon only work with yolks)
Thanks
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I eat all the yolks raw with my main meals. I really don't know what is ideal to be honest. There is an ongoing debate on this forum about the consuming egg white, and there is no clear consensus. The avidin issue is not really a big deal since you can get a ton of biotin from organs also. I'm more concerned about the enzyme inhibitors in raw egg white. Egg white has trypsin inhibitors which keep you from digesting protein. I have enough problems with protein digestion and I don't want any more difficulty :D. I sort of alternate on the whites. If I eat it raw, I eat it after I have digested my main meals. Sometimes I slightly poach it and eat it with my main meal.
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Who would wanna eat egg whites? Worst tasting food there is. And it's not like protein is hard to get on this diet.
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Who would wanna eat egg whites?
Me! Best tasting food for me. ;)
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I don't know if the egg whites are harmful, but they're the only food that gives me digestive distress. I get mild stomach cramps from eating even a few whole quail eggs. Not problem with the yolks.
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I don't know if the egg whites are harmful, but they're the only food that gives me digestive distress. I get mild stomach cramps from eating even a few whole quail eggs. Not problem with the yolks.
I have read that the avidin antinutrient in raw egg-whites is more or less neutralised if one eats fertilised eggs as the fertilised eggs have much lower levels of avidin in them. Never had the chance to try them out for comparison, though, as the fertilised version doesn't seem to be available in the UK. Perhaps GS or someone else can comment on whether fertilised raw eggs are more easily tolerated by those with a food-intolerance towards eggs?
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Does a fertilized egg look any different on the outside from a regular one?
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Does a fertilized egg look any different on the outside from a regular one?
I wouldn't think so. I think(?) I read somewhere that a fertilised raw egg would be a bit reddish inside, but others will know better re this.
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I wouldn't think so. I think(?) I read somewhere that a fertilised raw egg would be a bit reddish inside, but others will know better re this.
I know that my farmer has roosters and hens, and I don't think they would know from the outside either. I asked because I've noticed some are a bit reddish as you mentioned and taste a bit different.
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could be, i remember when i was a small kid in india, lived practically in a village. The eggs would have specks of red inside.
This was way before egg production was industrialized.
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(Since all raw I was first animals only(6 months), then with varying amounts of plants too(5months). When I was eating plants it weakened my digestive system and I couldn't digest fats and liver properly, I became reliant on the plants to push food through. I've been 1-2 weeks without plants and my digestive system is strong again, no problem eating lots of liver or fat.
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(Since all raw I was first animals only(6 months), then with varying amounts of plants too(5months). When I was eating plants it weakened my digestive system and I couldn't digest fats and liver properly, I became reliant on the plants to push food through. I've been 1-2 weeks without plants and my digestive system is strong again, no problem eating lots of liver or fat.
Its because plants need alkaline enviorement to be digested and animals acidic (im sure yall know it lol holla at me :))