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Title: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on January 25, 2011, 10:49:47 am
Yon Yonson and I are working on a grass fed farm together in Oregon. We are eating plenty of sheep and beef from the farm here.
Yesterday we bought a local live dungenous crab and killed and ate it. Wild albacore tuna is amazing here.
I will post more videos of the daily work we do like feeding hey etc.
We also rigged up a dehydrating system in our room with strings and a heater.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md-zVoAjn_8
there will be more vids to come. I will make em shorter perhaps 5min in length next time.
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: ys on January 25, 2011, 11:03:58 am
awesome video, do you guys get paid or do you work for food/shelter?
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on January 25, 2011, 11:43:45 am
@ys We work for food in shelter. The best thing is the experience I am getting. It's truly amazing to experience this. The work is easy and the farmer's are truly very good people. :)

www.meadowharvest.com is their website.

Eric is scrounging around cracking these tiny nuts from Texas hahaha.
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: raw on January 25, 2011, 02:15:54 pm
 :DThanks for this great video! you and Eric are the best! :D
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: TylerDurden on January 25, 2011, 04:49:12 pm
Hmm, at some later stage I might well try something like this in Europe. Won't bother with the heater, though.
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on January 26, 2011, 10:25:59 am
Yeah, the heater is a fan that blows warm air. Can adjust the temp. Pretty cool.


A bale of hay fell on lamb today. It ate away at the stack at teh bottom which cause the stack to fall. It died, Eric and I butchered it and ate the brain eyeballs etc. Glad it didn't go to waste.
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on January 28, 2011, 04:54:42 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heP4a4x5dLs
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: TylerDurden on January 28, 2011, 05:08:21 am
What surprises me is that this farmer presumably allows you to eat raw meats. While I personally have no problems eating rawpalaeo while at home or with acquaintances at home, when I'm living with other people, I always feel the need to either just eat raw fruits and the like, or feel forced to try a little cooked animal food, if staying for longer.
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on January 28, 2011, 05:24:50 am
Yeah it's interesting that they don't mind at all. Yon was here before a few summers ago. Thye are pretty laid back people.
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Caveman on January 28, 2011, 05:40:34 am
Ah! Very lucky, you guys are!

I might go back to Switzerland and work at a farm for food, shelter and "pocket money" some time, but I don't know about the choices for getting any meats..

If there's ever room up there in Oregon, I'd love to give it a try some time to help out.
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: achillezzz on January 28, 2011, 06:19:24 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heP4a4x5dLs

AWESOMEEEEEEEE

HUGE LOL AT THE MEAAAAAAAAA AT THE END IT CRACKED ME UP
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Busgrw on January 28, 2011, 05:13:31 pm
Yon Yonson and I are working on a grass fed farm together in Oregon. We are eating plenty of sheep and beef from the farm here.
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Excellent vid mate. Also had a look at a few others and loved Junts at the Lake & Vicious Dogs. Very cool.  ;D
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on January 29, 2011, 06:02:21 am
Hey thanks, junts at the Lake was edited by my friend Lance. He is very creative.

Vicious dogs, hah yeha that was fun to make. That's what I was doing before the farm stuff, baby sitting my sister's dogs
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Löwenherz on January 31, 2011, 11:44:11 pm
Nice videos!

Do you know the prices for suitable grassland in your area? (buying/renting) I'm just curios, as I am currently comparing land prices in europe for my own farming project...

Löwenherz
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on February 01, 2011, 05:38:19 am
Nice videos!

Do you know the prices for suitable grassland in your area?
No I am not sure on land prices. I am in Oregon volunteering, I am from Wisconsin. Sorry can't help much.
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on February 01, 2011, 11:19:19 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMSoX-slgVU
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Caveman on February 01, 2011, 11:27:06 pm
It's cool to see what you do on the farm. I hope to volunteer at a farm like you sometime..

I'm wondering.. what kind of camera do you use? Might save up for one myself..
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on February 03, 2011, 12:33:09 pm
It's cool to see what you do on the farm. I hope to volunteer at a farm like you sometime..

I'm wondering.. what kind of camera do you use? Might save up for one myself..
Def. do some vol. work especially if you can find a grass fed farm.
I use a JVC camera. Was about 240 bucks I think. A sales woman tried to talk me out of getting it. Recomending sony etc. instead.
 I decided to get the JVC. I am very happy with it for what I am using it for. I was actually able to get it from gov. aid money from Uni. :)

I am using windows movie maker for my videos. The movie maker 2.6 for windows xp i download because I like it more (has slow motion effect) than the movie maker on my windows 7 laptop. XP movie maker doesn't except my video file my camera has though, but the windows 7 editor does. SO I save the video files on W7 to convert them, then edit them on xp 2.6 movie maker.

Yeah a lot of process, but it's pretty simple. I want to get adopbe premiere so I can be a bit more creative with my videos and have a better aspect ratio.
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on February 11, 2011, 04:06:25 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZO6pGFONDI
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on March 03, 2011, 02:34:03 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKOWBCn_Qe8
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on March 03, 2011, 03:07:28 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-lHvR7Fy2U
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on March 03, 2011, 04:13:19 pm
And here is number 7, i was haveing troubles uploading these, they were done several days ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvh6uW7RTag
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: kurite on March 03, 2011, 05:37:47 pm
Lol zelda music.
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: goodsamaritan on March 03, 2011, 11:42:30 pm
I see Eric / Yon Yonson is with you in the farm.
Why is Eric not posting much?
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on March 04, 2011, 08:21:06 am
@kurite Haha, yeah Zeldais a great game,somegreat soundtracks.

@goodsmaritan I am not sure. There is internet for him and computers, I guess he just doesn't think to do it or doesn't want too. I am not sure.
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: achillezzz on March 04, 2011, 06:15:50 pm
Meahhhhhhhh MEAahhhhhhhhhhh MEAHHH IT KILLS ME lol
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: goodsamaritan on March 04, 2011, 11:12:02 pm
Fantastic videos.
Makes me want to send my own sons to your farm a few years from now.

So when do you make videos where you meet the farm pretty ladies?
Is there some sort of local dance?
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on March 07, 2011, 03:47:59 am
Fantastic videos.
Makes me want to send my own sons to your farm a few years from now.

So when do you make videos where you meet the farm pretty ladies?
Is there some sort of local dance?

Haha, I am actually leaving this farm on the 14th of this month to go home. There was a Open House at the Knit Store with some pretty ladies. Besides that I am usually on the farm. Not many pretty ladies around haha
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on March 07, 2011, 06:07:35 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m8h-tWFXaM

@achilezzz
I hate that noise the sheep make. Goats make such a charming noise. MUCH BETTER THAN SHEEP!
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: KD on March 07, 2011, 06:39:20 am
There was a Open House at the Knit Store with some pretty ladies.
you must be all aflutter over there.
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on March 08, 2011, 06:50:41 am
Dude, I am horny as a goat! ;D

I need some pootang
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: KD on March 08, 2011, 08:59:14 am
hehe

well, I suspect the only thing you'll be balling down at the ole knit store is yarn

take a cheat day/night and head down to the local saloon  8)

ah, also word from the non-wise - females tend to be put off by above word
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: goodsamaritan on March 08, 2011, 09:04:07 am
Yep, better to try the saloon before you all go home.
Take Eric with you.
And probably a local who's a little older than you guys who knows the ropes around town.
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: jessica on March 08, 2011, 10:58:11 am
yeah i was going to say, after being stuck out on a farm for a while i am sure all sorts of ladies start looking rather purty
i definitely thought about going into town and findin myself a nice cowboy
ha
male goats pee on their beards to attract mates......(i was witness to the full cycle of goat life...._
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on March 09, 2011, 05:15:15 am
Lol I will be back in the city (Milwaukee in a week). I can hold out haha

@ jessica Oh man, goats, what are the pros and cons of goats jessica?
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: jessica on March 09, 2011, 09:10:53 pm
pro: they make milk and meat:  if you are having a goat for personal milk that is awesome, you can have one or two goats that will produce almost a gallon each during the milking season, however you will also have more goats at this time(the babies) which will require more care and attention, you will have to figure out what to do with if you dont want to commit to more goats.  also you cannot milk them all year long, and they dry up in a few months, so you either sell the milk you cant drink, make cheese or things like soap

you have to remember they are living beings and do require attention, its wise to determine if they are worth it for personal use (time to care for, proper shelter/range, money for feed even if its just extra hay...some goats are picky and dont eat everything, sometimes you dont have pasture...etc, possibility of disease/illness)  male goats are pretty useless, except for meat and during mating...you can choose to raise the male babies for meat, as well as the female babies unless youd can sell them or would like to keep them for another milker...if you choose to have a herd for milking as a goat milk share/for market you have to make sure you have proper time and help to dedicate to milking, proper facilities to store the milk, extra feed/nutrients for the milkers...etc.   

goats require fencing, they attract preditors such as coyote, bobcat, jaguars/cougars/mountain lions, lynx..etc...so its wise to have a dog to protect them...great pyranese are awesome farm dogs...but then again you now have a dog to take care of....although i think they are good to have around anyway(along with copious amounts of barn kittens!)

mostly its deciding what you can handle and how much time and energy you would like to put into having goats....if its only for personal use, if a small operation is worth the time and energy

i personally cannot see it worth having even one goat, unless the neighbor had a male and was willing to take the babies or something once they were done being cute(which is really like 9 months, then they are ready to make their own babies) it is just extra work and time that would not be worth it to me....i would rather raise meat chickens, turkeys and maybe even consider rabbits, and either find someone who was ranching in the area, or figure out a way to incorporate that as someone elses operation on shared land...i think that co-owning farms and working as a cooperative is the best way to provide the farm with diversity and insure that all being are well taken care of..
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on March 10, 2011, 03:01:12 am
Thanks jessica, but what you explained I already know from taking care of sheep/lambs. I deal with feeding, birthing, predetors etc. etc everday here.

I want to know more along the lines of how annoying the animal can be. The two we have here are very calm, but they were bottled weened. I want to know if they are anoying as sheep pretty much. I can't stand sheep lol

I am going to a goat dairy with the farmers. Before I leave to go home, will be interesting

Some goats are picky? These ones here eat anything. Well there diet is more close to deer (foraging), they love blackberry leaves and shoots they are everywhaer here.

What I plan on doing is getting meat goats in the future (not a dairy breed),  I feel the dairy breeds are a little to unnatural for me. Or maybe farm free range white tailed deer. I plan on selling meat and for self consumption too.
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: ys on March 10, 2011, 05:59:29 am
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Or maybe farm free range white tailed deer.

white tail can easily jump over even the tallest fences.  so you can't really farm them.  i think it is better to have hunting land.  or just stick with goats.
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on March 11, 2011, 10:17:48 am
white tail can easily jump over even the tallest fences.  so you can't really farm them.  i think it is better to have hunting land.  or just stick with goats.
Yes you can farm them. I have been to white tail farms in Wsconsin. Elk farms too.
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on March 11, 2011, 10:20:46 am
Oh, and if a few escape once in a while. They are native so it doesn't matter really :)
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: magnetic on March 11, 2011, 10:28:42 am
Yes you can farm them. I have been to white tail farms in Wsconsin. Elk farms too.

I thought there were U.S. government restrictions on hunting and selling wild animals.
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: miles on March 11, 2011, 10:51:45 am
I thought there were U.S. government restrictions on hunting and selling wild animals.

They're not wild if you farm them?
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: ys on March 11, 2011, 11:11:22 am
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Yes you can farm them. I have been to white tail farms in Wisconsin. Elk farms too.

i did not know that.  so what are they fed?

i'm looking to buy some land in upper michigan.  it looks pretty good from satellite, almost no farms, all forest. firearm hunting season is very short, but bow hunting is long.  if i get a good land deal i'll get into bow hunting.  i think wild game is the way to go.
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on March 11, 2011, 11:46:20 am
Yeah I am not sure. You can farm wild species of course. Just not animals born in the wild I guess.

There are bison, elk, deer farms etc etc everywhere.

@ys I am not sure. Just rode by it, stopped, farmer's weren't there. Grains or many other things. Like tree clippings for leaves or something. I don't know.

There are more elk farms than whitetailed deer farms in the USA I believe. Elk are deer.
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on March 11, 2011, 11:48:49 am
Just found this website.

http://www.whitetailsofwisconsin.com/

http://www.whitetailsofwisconsin.com/images/gernt_-_georgia_and_faws_at_feeder.jpg
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sitting Coyote on March 11, 2011, 08:32:26 pm
Most farm-raised "wild game" is fed commercial grain.  I have looked for bison, elk and deer ranches that allow the animals to get 100% of their food from grazing, and despite looking in several states around me have not yet found one.  The meat is more valuable on the market than cattle or pig, so most "wild game" ranches pack the animals in and grain feed.  Some pack the animals in so densely the "ranch" resembles an outdoor confined animal feedlot operation. 

This is particularly what an elk farm I visited when I used to live in Indiana looked like.  There were over a hundred elk in a small enclosure behind a tall fence topped with barbed wire.  They were fed grain from an automated feeder, and were so cramped that their legs were caked with a mixture of mud, urine and their own feces.  It was so horrible looking to me that I cancelled the order for a side of elk that I'd placed.  Made the owner terribly angry, but I told him I can't support a place that treats animals like that.
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: jessica on March 11, 2011, 10:59:53 pm
i have met ranchers here who refuse to raise animals to "certified organic" standards because they would have to either certify their land, which is too much money, or pin there animals for the last months of their life and feed them "certified organic" feed, organic feed is EXPENSIVE, especially hay/alfalfa to feed cattle/bison....so mostly you will find legit ranchers arent certified..
there seem to be some good sources of beef, perhaps not elk bison deer etc.....here:  http://www.eatwild.com/products/vermont.html....................you can always hunt or pick up road kill deer when you see em
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on March 12, 2011, 05:55:18 am
www.northstarbison.com

Grass Fed Bison IN Wisconsin

grass fed bison texas
http://www.slankersgrassfedmeats.com/

Grass fed bison elk in Oregon here.
www.pmrbuffalo.com

Grass fed bison is in many places

Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on March 12, 2011, 05:57:34 am
http://www.slankersgrassfedmeats.com/grass_fed_bison.htm
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on March 13, 2011, 05:11:08 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWxwHuVhW-U
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: achillezzz on March 13, 2011, 05:20:28 am
THATS WHATSUP!!
sully you got mad touch for the ball and nice leaps

I have 1 question are you able to squat on 1 leg slowly down and up with perfect form?
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on March 13, 2011, 06:42:00 am
I don't practice basketball often at all, but it's fun to play.

Yeah I can squat up and down with my leg extended.
Maybe I will make a video for you.
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on March 13, 2011, 07:02:18 am
made one quick, is this it? one leg squat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvn0Xj4Ee3E
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: miles on March 13, 2011, 07:07:45 am
Achilezzz what can you do regarding the 1-leg squat? I would do it 18 times no momentum with full relaxation at the bottom, but only on a stool or a beam etc, I didn't do it on the flat like Sully. I don't do it at all now though, I prefer to do only more natural exercises like running, climbing, carrying etc.
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on March 13, 2011, 07:10:20 am
Yeah, I think it's only a good demo thing. Not good as an actual exercise.

I try to keep my leg fully extended when I do it though. (and parallel to the floor)
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on March 13, 2011, 07:17:02 am
We did leg extensions all the time when i was younger in my kung fu class. With the squat, I like to kick, hold it, then go up and down while maintaining a straight leg.

leg extension
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4okklh4i38g
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: miles on March 13, 2011, 09:28:45 am
Did you initially have to stretch to be able to do that; do you still have to stretch regularly?

I don't stretch because it makes one less efficient at running and just generally isn't something I'm interested in. Of course it will allow you to do some things better, but being of the paleo mindset I prefer to go with what I've got naturally.
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on March 13, 2011, 10:08:17 am
I used to stretch a lot, and I could still run fast and long. Stretching is imortant but not to the extreme extent. I don't stretch like i used to, but i still stretch naturally after awaking like a cat. ALso after a strength workout where my muscle are pumping I feel like stretching that area which is pumping. And soem workouts stretch the muscles as you do the  movements.

SO stretching is important. Its for evryone to decide whats necessary and natural and what feels good. Obviously staying on a yoga mat and stretching and bending in unatural positions for hours is not good.


Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: Sully on March 14, 2011, 09:45:16 am
one of my favorite lambs died

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jms9ljUeINY
Title: Re: Farm Diaries
Post by: achillezzz on March 14, 2011, 05:01:15 pm
Achilezzz what can you do regarding the 1-leg squat? I would do it 18 times no momentum with full relaxation at the bottom, but only on a stool or a beam etc, I didn't do it on the flat like Sully. I don't do it at all now though, I prefer to do only more natural exercises like running, climbing, carrying etc.

I need to do this 1 leg squat I want to mater this exercise I have read a book about bodyweight training culture and it says that the 1 legged squat is the ultimtae exercise for the legs.

Unfortunatelly I cant accomplish this feat of strength I have very long thighbones and I  dont have the best build for squating.
I belive if I master this exercise my vertical will improve like crazyyyyy so I concentrate on this move now alot.

Try doing 2x30 slow 1 leg squat every other day for a year do it slow feel the burn after a year you will develop monster legs your knees will be so strong man I can bring 1000 quotes about this one.

My stupid thighbones length make it hard to do even bodyweight 2 legs squat I feel like Im going to  fall back if I go deep.
And what makes squating even more difficult for me is that I have naturally tight hamstring and calves.
I can do the full squat with 2 legs only if I wear some nike shoes with elevated heels. like 4cm or so.

you guys should  be proud of yourself if you can do that.