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Title: Picture of uncontacted tribe
Post by: majormark on February 01, 2011, 10:56:32 pm
Apparently there are still uncontacted tribes out there.

From this picture, now, we know that our ancestors were fruitarians and used bows to shoot apples off the tree...

(http://assets.survivalinternational.org/static/campaigns/uncontactedtribes/11935069_crop_960.jpg)

More here: http://www.uncontactedtribes.org/brazilphotos
Title: Re: Picture of uncontacted tribe
Post by: KD on February 02, 2011, 12:20:39 am
This pic is just unreal. beautiful. I see cassava.
Title: Re: Picture of uncontacted tribe
Post by: SkinnyDevil on February 02, 2011, 12:30:47 am
Uncontacted by whom? That's a metal blade.
Title: Re: Picture of uncontacted tribe
Post by: ForTheHunt on February 02, 2011, 01:02:06 am
"And used bows to shoot apples off the tree"

lol  ;D
Title: Re: Picture of uncontacted tribe
Post by: raw-al on February 02, 2011, 01:42:15 am
Uncontacted by whom? That's a metal blade.
hmmm there's also a porcelain covered pot on the ground.
Title: Re: Picture of uncontacted tribe
Post by: ForTheHunt on February 02, 2011, 01:48:32 am
hmmm there's also a porcelain covered pot on the ground.

OHMYGOD  :D

You can clearly see the fact that they are pretty untouched by the fact that they are wearing G-strings and have warpaint on.
Title: Re: Picture of uncontacted tribe
Post by: ys on February 02, 2011, 02:03:56 am
correction: these are not uncontacted tribes, they've been known for a while
they are simply remote tribes that live far from civilization.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,370943,00.html


On Tuesday, Survival International released a statement to try to clarify things, including: "The story is not a hoax, and none of those involved in working to protect these Indians' rights have ever claimed they were 'undiscovered.'"

"Some of the media got very carried away and started talking about undiscovered tribes," Watson told LiveScience. "There was this interpretation that this was a completely new tribe, completely undiscovered, without bothering to check with sources.
Title: Re: Picture of uncontacted tribe
Post by: laterade on February 02, 2011, 02:13:53 am
"ask peru's president to protect uncontacted tribes"
...Uh oh, they better run
Title: Re: Picture of uncontacted tribe
Post by: raw-al on February 02, 2011, 02:29:03 am
I wonder how the picture was taken in the sense of was it an aircraft or what?
Title: Re: Picture of uncontacted tribe
Post by: Techydude on February 06, 2011, 03:04:41 am
Looks like a big hoax with the media guilt, metal, and clay, and clothes, and paint.
Title: Re: Picture of uncontacted tribe
Post by: PaleoPhil on February 06, 2011, 04:33:51 am
From above:
... On Tuesday, Survival International released a statement to try to clarify things, including: "The story is not a hoax, and none of those involved in working to protect these Indians' rights have ever claimed they were 'undiscovered.'"

"Some of the media got very carried away and started talking about undiscovered tribes," Watson told LiveScience. "There was this interpretation that this was a completely new tribe, completely undiscovered, without bothering to check with sources.
Title: Re: Picture of uncontacted tribe
Post by: laterade on February 06, 2011, 06:51:02 am
Lol... the "media" sucks
Title: Re: Picture of uncontacted tribe
Post by: PaleoPhil on February 07, 2011, 06:45:00 am
Yeah, unfortunately most of the media nowadays doesn't have time to investigate issues more than at the surface, so they often get things screwed up. If they had bothered to contact Survival International about the SI article that spurred the spurious media outcry they could have avoided their misunderstandings. SI even explains what uncontacted means and addresses other misconceptions at their Uncontacted Tribes website:

Questions and answers: uncontacted tribes
http://www.uncontactedtribes.org/articles/3109-questions-and-answers-uncontacted-tribes

Survival answers commonly-asked questions about the world’s uncontacted tribes

What are ‘undiscovered’ or ‘lost’ tribes?
This is empty sensationalism. It’s extremely unlikely there are any tribes whose existence is totally unknown to anyone else.

What do you mean by ‘uncontacted’?
Peoples who have no peaceful contact with anyone in the mainstream or dominant society. There are about 100 uncontacted tribes in the world.

Does that mean they have no contact with anyone else at all?
No. Everyone has neighbours, even when they’re some distance away, and they’ll know who they are. If it’s another tribe, perhaps also uncontacted, they may or may not have friendly relations with them.


Myths Regarding Uncontacted Tribes
http://www.uncontactedtribes.org/

MYTH: They aren’t aware of the outside world
Everyone has neighbours, even when they’re some distance away, and they’ll know who they are. If it’s another tribe, they may or may not have friendly relations with them. And many uncontacted tribes have suffered appalling violence in the past from settlers.

MYTH: They are living in the ‘Stone Age’
All peoples are changing all the time and always have, including uncontacted tribes. Survival doesn’t talk about ‘pristine’ tribes or cultures. They are not backward or ‘Stone Age’, they just live differently.

MYTH: Reports of uncontacted tribes are faked
Some ‘first contacts’ are acts for the benefit of tourists, but there are actually quite a lot of real uncontacted tribes, and more are ‘discovered’ all the time. Sometimes, they are surprisingly close to people who’ve been in contact for decades, or longer.

MYTH: They can’t be left alone forever
Whose choice should it be, theirs or ‘ours’? If a people chooses to make contact with wider society, they’ll find a way. The problem is that the belief that they are primitive and incapable of deciding for themselves is still widespread.

MYTH: If they are contacted, they can have the benefits of ‘our’ way of life
They won’t get the chance. In reality, the future offered by settler society is to ‘join’ at the lowest possible level – often as beggars and prostitutes. History proves that tribal peoples usually end up in a far worse state after contact, often dead.


At least the media are giving SI free publicity, which is helping raise awareness and funds for a good cause (http://www.survivalinternational.org for UK donations and info.usa@survivalinternational.org for USA donations). It's important that at least some of the peoples living relatively traditional lifestyles be allowed to continue to do so in order that the original human lifestyle is not lost forever and so we can learn from them and work to try to gradually restore the best and most practical of the old ways into our lives, the lives of other interested folks, and the lives of future generations.
Title: Re: Picture of uncontacted tribe
Post by: PaleoPhil on February 11, 2011, 10:30:49 am
By coincidence, the BBC One "Human Planet" show that was featured in another thread has a video on this uncontacted (by modern society) tribe:

Uncontacted Tribe
http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/humanplanetexplorer/environments/jungles#p00dvpb5
"New footage of one of the world’s last uncontacted tribes living in the Brazilian rainforest released to raise awareness of the threat posed to them by illegal logging and mining."
Title: Re: Picture of uncontacted tribe
Post by: raw-al on February 14, 2011, 04:00:55 am
OHMYGOD  :D

You can clearly see the fact that they are pretty untouched by the fact that they are wearing G-strings and have warpaint on.
I just listened to Barrack Obama's book "Dreams From My Father" in which he mentions that the Kenyans wore skins around their genitals prior to the advent of white man.
Always wondered if that was a honkey habit.
Title: Re: Picture of uncontacted tribe
Post by: raw-al on November 16, 2011, 12:25:23 am
http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/videos/indigenousnative-americanfirst-nations/uncontacted-tribe-in-brazil.html (http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/videos/indigenousnative-americanfirst-nations/uncontacted-tribe-in-brazil.html)
Title: Re: Picture of uncontacted tribe
Post by: raw-al on November 16, 2011, 02:45:16 am
No luck on the link Dorothy.
Title: Re: Picture of uncontacted tribe
Post by: Dorothy on November 16, 2011, 03:01:03 am
Sorry - I tried to hyperlink it. Here's just a cut and paste instead. Hope this works.

Uncontacted Tribes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBvfm6AMCgU#ws)

One of the things that struck me was how a pilot landing where a uncontacted tribe was and then every year they would paint USA on their chests, put up the American Flag and made a mythology about how the pilot/god will return.

Contact can have un-foretold consequences.

It's also a simple overview.
Title: Re: Picture of uncontacted tribe
Post by: raw-al on November 16, 2011, 06:59:32 am
I've heard the story before about the American pilot. Amazing.

Thanks for the link!