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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => Welcoming Committee => Topic started by: Sally on September 21, 2011, 12:22:12 pm
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Hi guys,
I've been reading posts on here for a few months. I started eating raw meat about three months ago. Previous to that I was doing dr.Youngs alkaline diet for a little over six months, and the three months before that I was transitioning for being a heavy consumer of alcohol who ate a lot of cheetos, aged cheese, raw pickles and ice cream.
Basically I burned out really bad a little over 2 years ago. I had allergy symptoms, asthma symptoms, heart palpitations, extreme fatigue, diziness, weight gain, loss of interest in laughing and socializing. I went to my doctor, and he didn't really think there was anything wrong with me, or didn't know how to help me, so I struggled this way for months, trying to help myself by taking allergy medication, inhalers, quitting smoking, reducing caffeine consumption and stopping my workout.
I was looking all over the internet to find what was wrong, then I found that adrenal burnout matched my symptoms the most. I went and got a saliva testing kit the same week, and did the test as soon as was possible.
It came back that my cortisol was below range, and my estrogen was also bottom of the range.
So that kind of helped a bit. I learned I had to eat more greens, quit caffeine altogether, eat buckwheat ect.
I was able to control my symptoms, but I could not kick my one bottle of wine or more drinking habit, and I couldn't conquer my salt cravings either.
Anyway, I suffered for another year, then I finally decided I was going to go on a strict calorie counting diet and I started to lose weight. Then I learned about the alkaline diet and I continued to lose weight. Then I levelled off at about 140 lbs,and started feeling like it was to restrictive and wanted to go raw vegan.
Then when I was doing a search on this on the internet and I learned that there was such a thing as a raw foodist that also ate meat. I was captivated by the idea and started expirementing with this immediately after visting this site.
I eat grass feed ground beef, steak and liver raw. Also organic free-run chicken eggs. I eat sushi occasionally, the occasional oyster and I tried rabbit, chicken livers and buffalo. I eat everything else raw too, except I cheat about once a week on average. I eat lots of greens, sprouted buckwheat, raw almonds, fruit and sprouted buckwheat. Lots of coconuts too.
So far I found that this diet in combination with taking an adrenal supplement containing freeze dried porcine adrenal glands before falling asleep and first thing in the morning has been really the only thing truly getting me to recover. I actually cried for the first time in a very long time last night. Sounds like a bad thing, but I hadn't really been crying at all since I burned out, and I used to cry quite a bit before. Also, my vaginal lubrication has returned to normal. I get wet at just about anything these days. My laughter too, I can laugh without gasping funny, I'm starting conversations with people, flirting normally (for me), my lips are filling back in and losing that purple hue they had when I was "sick". My ass it copping back out. My blood pressure is rising to normal. I feel a lot better.
Now that I am feeling physically better by leaps and bounds, I am having to face the fact that I am actually depressed about my life, but it's good because now I feel like I have the energy to take action, and I am taking action.
One problem I am having is that I am gaining weight. I desperately want to look lean. And also to be able to climb a ladder at work without getting out of breath. I ran all the food I am eating and discovered that I am eating upwards of 3000 calories per day. About 1000 calories of that is coming from the almonds I can't seem to stop eating. Thing is I really seriously feel like I need that many calories.
So it got me to thinking that I am probably too depressed to lose anymore weight, and I am addressing that through changes in my life style.
The other challenge that I have is that I work in oilsands plant, and a lot of people would probably deny it, but I am breathing alot of flue gas, various harmful particulates, SO2, H2S ect, almost everyday, and I am working hard in it, so it's all getting into me pretty good. I think after I finish my current project I will ask for a transfer to a cleaner location.
I really want to lose more weight. I really want to be attractive. I gained over three pounds since I started eating raw meat for 2 meals a day, and I am concerned about that. I really want to believe that my weight gain is due to the meat rebuilding me or a reduction in fiber slowing my bowels, but I think I'm probably just packing on fat.
Anyway, my plan is to start partying more like I used to, and to be more social, and I'm hoping that will reduce my appetite and out a stop to my weight gain, because I really want to lose weight and be attractive. Also, my goal is to rebuild my adrenals to their former glory and I do seem to be having some success at that.
Currently I have a slight fever. There is a flu going around work. I am excited to see how a flu manifests itself in the body of a raw omnivore.
I would be very interested in hearing from others who are coping with adrenal issues.
Have a good evening,
Sally
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Hi Sally, congrats on being one of the few pioneers in to raw meat, it's always remarkable when people like yourself snub the mainstream fearmongering of germ theory and try something that is sensible but taboo.
The first thing you need to learn in regards to weight gain is that it's modulated mostly by genetics and diet. That is why there are people who can't seem to gain weight for the life of them and people who can't seem to lose weight to save their lives. The other aspect is diet but not what the mainstream teaches. It is carbs that make us fat, plain and simple. I live on a diet of mostly various types of fat, including butter, eggs, organ meats, bone marrow and other animal fats, but I can't gain weight for anything. My body is programmed to burn what it takes in immediately. So don't blame the fats for weight gain. Identify any and all sources of carbs in your life... Alcohol, grains, tubers, sugar, everything! And then eliminate those. Once you've done that for several weeks or preferably months, while still eating plenty of other raw foods, and liberal animal foods, you should be at your stable, natural weight. After that you can add back in carbs in very small amounts and monitor your body fat as you do. Adjust intake to your desired weight. It's a process and takes time, but you will get there!
As for the oilsands, totally! Don't sacrifice your body for anyone, even if you have to switch jobs, do it! I know it seems like it's easy for me to say over here, but really, it's not worth it, that stuff will wreak havoc on your body and mind. And don't be surprised if it has an effect on your psyche as well, your mental health is absolutely correlated to your physical health.
All of the above is of course simple suggestion for your desired results, do what works for you and forego whatever you like.
For an explanation why the lipid hypothesis is bullshit and why it is carbs, especially refined carbs that make us fat see Gary Taubes' book "Why we get fat" Or can be gotten via torrent for free as an audiobook, fascinating and highly recommendo!
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Thanks Citrus High,
I have had lots of success in the past with low carb, and have made a few feeble attempts this week to lower my sugar intake. I will definitely give it another try. I am totally cool with being at my natural weight, I know I am heavier than that now. I'm tempted to keep eating a bit of buckwheat everyday though, it is supposed to prevent varicose veins.
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Thanks Citrus High,
I have had lots of success in the past with low carb, and have made a few feeble attempts this week to lower my sugar intake. I will definitely give it another try. I am totally cool with being at my natural weight, I know I am heavier than that now. I'm tempted to keep eating a bit of buckwheat everyday though, it is supposed to prevent varicose veins.
I agree, cut out the carbs and sugars. I did that and my weight dropped like more than a pound a day, which I was amazed by!
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Thanks Citrus High,
I have had lots of success in the past with low carb, and have made a few feeble attempts this week to lower my sugar intake. I will definitely give it another try. I am totally cool with being at my natural weight, I know I am heavier than that now. I'm tempted to keep eating a bit of buckwheat everyday though, it is supposed to prevent varicose veins.
Have you tried eating raw coconut oil? It strengthens your thyroid and helps you lose weight. It's also good for controlling carb cravings. If it causes diarrhea, try some other brands.
Tell us EXACTLY what and how much you are eating each day, for about a week, so we can get an idea.
I also recommend cutting back on the almonds, and eating animal fats instead, like fatty fish or grass-fed fatty organs/fat.
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Okay, so I already started majorly cutting down the carbs.
This morning for breakfast I ate:
1/2 a small avocado
1 tomato
4 spears of cucumber
15 pea pods
1/2 green pepper
I drizzled it with what I imagine is 1 tablespoon of Omega 3 oil and about a tablespoon of bottled lemon juice.
At around 10 am I ate:
1/4 cup of sprouted buckwheat
1 tomato
1/2 of a small avocado
10 pods of peas
4 spears of cucumber
1/2 of a green pepper
At about 3 pm I ate
A bowl full of grass fed sirloin tip steak, cut into large chunks.
I felt so awesome after eating the steak that when I got home I ran on my treadmill for 5 miles (560 calories)
Then I ate 120 grams of grass fed beef liver
I am craving hemp seeds so now I'm going to eat:
2 tablespoons of hemp seeds
1 tomato
4 spears of cucumber
1/2 green pepper
1/4 cup broccoli
I'm going to use bragg's liquid soy, celtic salt, and a couple tablespoons of shredded coconut to garnish it.
I didn't drink anything today except for water.
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The avocados are also good, as is the coconut oil, for controlling carb cravings. Keep posting your daily diet. ;)
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i actually added a lemon and 1/2 a teaspoon of fish oil to my last plate, and i only used about a teaspoon of omega 3 oil.
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Hi Sally, are you eating raw adrenal gland to take care of adrenal problem? Please, let me know.
"WELCOME" to raw paleo forum
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i actually added a lemon and 1/2 a teaspoon of fish oil to my last plate, and i only used about a teaspoon of omega 3 oil.
If you add fatty fish to your diet, you may want to cut down on the fish oil. It's possible to overdo it on the omega-3 if you're supplementing. It can make blood clotting very difficult.
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The product I am taking is Ortho-Adapt
It contains:
Adrenal tissue (porcine) 250 mg
Adrenal Cortex (porcine) 200 mg
Vitamin C 500 mg
Pantethine 200 mg
Licorice extract 800 mg
Siberian Ginseng 200 mg
Rhodiola 150 mg
Ashwagandha 200 mg
per 4 capsule (the recommended daily dose)
I take 8 capsules before bed and 8 in the morning, so I am getting 4 times these amounts per day.
It doesn't specify whether the tissue is raw.
There is a tangible difference in my ability to wake up in the morning, my blood pressure, my enjoyment and my ability to work depending on whether I supplement or not.
I just switched to these pills about a week ago, before I was taking called Adrenal lyophilized active glandularwith 250 mg of adrenal tissue(porcine) per capsule. I took 4 in the morning, and 4 before going to bed. It had the same beneficial effect.
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I don't know if it was cutting down on the carbs (I think it is) but I felt so awesome yesterday that I couldn't get to sleep until 330 am. Came home from work early today though, pretty tired.
Today I ate:
For Breakfast:(6am)
1 tomato
1/2 avacado
1/4 cup bean sprouts
10 pea pods
4 spears of cucumber
1/2 green pepper
2 tablespoons of hemp seeds
2 tablespoons of shredded coconut
1 teaspoon of fish oil
1 teaspoon of omega 3 oil
celtic salt to my enjoyment
a tablespoon of bottled lemon juice
At work (between 10 and 11 am)
1/4 cup of sprouted buckwheat
1 tomato
1/2 avacado
1/4 cup bean sprouts
10 pea pods
4 spears of cucumber
1/2 green pepper
I sucked on a "LIFE SAVERS" breath mint, but spit the majority of it back out.
Right now it's about 6pm and I'm eating 9 ounces of grass-fed beef tenderloin, soaked in bragg's liquid soy...prolly gonna eat another plate of veggies, not sure yet though.
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Also:
1 tomato,
4 spears of cucumber
1/2 avocado
1/2 cup of broccoli
1 tablespoon of cold pressed avocado oil
1 tablespoon bottled lemon juice
2 tablespoons shredded coconut
2 tablespoons hemp seeds
celtic salt to taste
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I'd try to get some wild-caught seafoods and some wild or grassfed organ meats. Is dulse or another seaweed available where you are in Canada? What about wild game? I would recommend some organs, particularly adrenals, thyroid, and maybe liver.
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I'm having 4 raw egg yolks, a handful of cilantro a handful of sliced white mushrooms and celtic salt.
There is a store in Edmonton (5 hours south of here) that sells wild caught game. I bought a rabbit from them about a month ago.
I'm sure I can get organs, It will probably involve ordering them way in advance. None of the places I go to stock brain or lungs or anything like that.
I bought kidneys from the place I get my steaks and livers from and they were super nasty. My cats wouldn't eat them either. Either they were frozer burned or I'm going to have to try really hard to get used to kidney.
I can probably harass some hunters and get local wild caught meat.
They sell wild fish at the grocery store. I have some in my freezer. I used to eat fish every couple days, but since I got into the steaks and the livers, I've lost a lot of interest in the fish. Especially when I'm working. I have three days off now, so I think I'm going to indulge in some salmon and cod.
I bought raw shrimps too, and a duck breast. I eat duck breast about once every couple weeks. Apparently raw shrimps are really high in taurine. I wonder if my cats will like them.
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I've got kelp and dulse flakes in my kitchen. I use to sprinkle the dulse flakes on everything I ate. I'll start using them again, if you think it's a good idea. I will have to experiment with the kelp on how to eat it without cooking it. One seaweed I really like is arame, but I can't find raw arame anymore.
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I bought kidneys from the place I get my steaks and livers from and they were super nasty. My cats wouldn't eat them either. Either they were frozer burned or I'm going to have to try really hard to get used to kidney.
I can probably harass some hunters and get local wild caught meat.
They sell wild fish at the grocery store. I have some in my freezer.
Kidneys need to be super fresh for me to eat them. My cats won't touch them either. Fermented thoroughly they taste nice and salty to me. Funny, my cats will eat the head and heart of animals they caught. Scallops I buy in the store feel like they've been frozen to me and smell awful. Fermented however again salty tasting and fine. I think when the kidneys are a couple days sitting in the cooler or many fish once partially frozen start have too much enzyme activity and I can smell that. Once the enzymes are apparently used up for their purpose to break down the item, it may work better to eat it for our safe nourishment.
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so fresh as in fresh from the animal, and not previously frozen?
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I've got kelp and dulse flakes in my kitchen. I use to sprinkle the dulse flakes on everything I ate. I'll start using them again, if you think it's a good idea. I will have to experiment with the kelp on how to eat it without cooking it. One seaweed I really like is arame, but I can't find raw arame anymore.
I don't know how to eat kelp without cooking. Maybe thorough blending might work. Dulse is good, try to get the kind that hasn't been dried out too much.
It's good to eat fresh instead of frozen fish, if you can. I would definitely try to get some fresh adrenals.
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so fresh as in fresh from the animal, and not previously frozen?
Right. Many types of fish lose nutritional value when they've been frozen to an extent that they can become a health hazzard to some extent for those who eat them.
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k, I was stuck in town all morning and afternoon. Here is what I ate today:
Breakfast:
2 mini cucumbers
1 tomato
1 avocado
1 lemon
2 tablespoons of hemp seeds
2 tablespoons of shredded coconut
celtic salt to taste
Lunch (11 am)
7 sashimi pieces of yellowfin tuna
6 sashimi pieces of tuna belly
1 sashimi pieces of what I think was surf clam (the hard waxy sashimi)
An hour later:
A thing of cut up vegetables from the grocery store which included:
7 cherry tomatoes
7 baby carrots
1 large piece of cauliflower
a handful of broccoli
6 short celery sticks
An other hour later
20 ml of full-fat ranch dressing (prepackaged, refrigerated, but probably not raw)
1/4 cup of sliced mushrooms
1/4 cup of red pepper
1/4 cup of green pepper
a few small pieces of purple onion
Then I got a pack of sugar-free dentyne ice and went through 6 pieces of that today
At about five I drank a caffeinated Tim Horton's coffee with 2 cream and 2 sweeteners ( I limit my coffees to a couple a week)
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So guys, I have been avoiding eating meats that have not been previously frozen for 14 days.
It would be convenient to just go to the grocery store, pick out a wild salmon or whatever and eat it before freezing, it would probably taste better too. The couple times that I have eaten beef without freezing it first, I have enjoyed the flavor more. I'm worried though about catching a parasite.
I have heard about people dying from eating fish without freezing first from an article on how sushi was invented.
I guess it's something I will have to consider.
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on a side note I have a few little calcium deficiency spots in my recent nail growth, now that I have cut out almonds my calcium intake is really low. I was watching a video on secrets of longevity and zak suggests making a bone broth, where you slow cook bones for two days than drink it. Apparently calcium is nor destroyed by heat. It has the advantage of getting other nutrients out too...One thing I've loved doing since I was bout thirteen is eating chicken bones from KFC and out of those rotisserie chickens. I would bite of the soft ends, chew them and swallow them then crack the middle parts open, suck all the marrow out. If the bones were pretty thin and crispy like the rib bones, then I'd just chew them up and eat them whole. I was craving doing this today
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on a side note I have a few little calcium deficiency spots in my recent nail growth, now that I have cut out almonds my calcium intake is really low. I was watching a video on secrets of longevity and zak suggests making a bone broth, where you slow cook bones for two days than drink it. Apparently calcium is nor destroyed by heat. It has the advantage of getting other nutrients out too...One thing I've loved doing since I was bout thirteen is eating chicken bones from KFC and out of those rotisserie chickens. I would bite of the soft ends, chew them and swallow them then crack the middle parts open, suck all the marrow out. If the bones were pretty thin and crispy like the rib bones, then I'd just chew them up and eat them whole. I was craving doing this today
You can get marrow bones and grind them with a file, or just buy bone meal.
Raw wild salmon does have some parasites. Most ocean-caught fish don't have much in the way of dangerous parasites.
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Before going to the movies I ate half a bowl of pea pods with 2 tablespoons shredded coconut and 2 tablespoons hemp seeds and 1 tablespoon coconut oil and celtic salt to taste. I also put one squirt of Bragg's liquid soy into it.
When I got back I ate 5 egg yolks, with 1 small clove of garlic, a couple pinches of fresh cilantro, 1 whole avocado, celtic salt and 1 tablespoon of hemp seeds. Then I ate 2 tomatoes and two baby cucumbers and one lemon, with 4 small cloves of garlic, 2 tablespoons of hemp seeds, 2 tablespoons of shredded coconut and celtic salt.
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So guys, I have been avoiding eating meats that have not been previously frozen for 14 days.
Hi, Sally - I've been eating raw paleo for about 1/2 a year now with great health results, including over 70 pounds weight lost. It took me a few months to locate a good supply of grassfed beef. In the meantime, I ate what I could get when I could get it, but I found that grazed lamb was easier to find. Your food log (you are so disciplined to write it all down, way better than I am in that regard!) looks meat-deficient for the last few days, and when you had beef and liver a few days ago, you said you felt super, so I'd encourage you to look in every nook and cranny to find good meat.
Also, about oilsands... I worked in a valley that was dominated by agribusiness. The air was full of chemical fertilizers and pesticides, and the winds blew these up incessantly. My physical and mental health suffered greatly. I left there two years ago, the day after my work contract expired. I didn't even have a next job lined up, but I was glad to get out of the invisible filth.
Good luck, and glad to have you here.
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It would be convenient to just go to the grocery store, pick out a wild salmon or whatever and eat it before freezing, it would probably taste better too. The couple times that I have eaten beef without freezing it first, I have enjoyed the flavor more. I'm worried though about catching a parasite.
I have heard about people dying from eating fish without freezing first from an article on how sushi was invented.
I just ate a preground package of bison directly on the way home from buying it at the market, and a raw lobster tail.
Where was sushi invented? I thought Japanese peasants had left over accidentally soured rice and rolled it up with some fish before refrigeration was invented and used it as a food calling it sushi which in Japanese I heard the word sushi literally means sour(ed)-tasting rice. Besides the English speaking countries, I believe the non English speaking country restaurants never freeze their fish nor the chicken or horse they make sashimis with. If you don't feel comfortable, freeze how you like. Freezing raises thiaminase, so I'd be careful. It kills piscavores (animals who mainly eat fish).
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So today I ate
For Breakfast:
-120 grams of liver
-240 grams of sirloin steak
-1 tomato
-1/2 uncooked pickle
-Celtic salt
Around noon:
3/4 cup sauerkraut
around 1
2.5 tablespoons of coconut oil
2 tablespoons of hemp-seeds
2 tablespoons shredded coconut
2 tablespoons sesame seeds
1 avocado
2 mini cucumbers
1 tomato
-Celtic salt
around 3
3 pieces of fried chicken, including the bones
1 Fresca
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Around 8, I ate:
1 avocado
3 tablesppons of ground sesame seeds
2 squirts of Bragg's liquid soy
10 pea pods
1 tomato
9 cucumber slices
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For breakfast I ate:
180 grams of liver
180 grams tenderloin with 1/2 cup sauerkraut
Snacks:
1 Tim Horton's coffee, 2 cream, 2 sweetener
1 kiwano melon (horned melon)
3/4 cup of coconut cream
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For breakfast I ate:
180 grams of liver
180 grams tenderloin with 1/2 cup sauerkraut
Snacks:
1 Tim Horton's coffee, 2 cream, 2 sweetener
1 kiwano melon (horned melon)
3/4 cup of coconut cream
Question: Why are you drinking coffee, eating sweetener, cream, soy sauce?
Are you just easing into paleo? Because those aren't paleo...I don't think the pea pods are either.
Also, you don't need to have everything so planned out. I usually only eat at night because I'm not really hungry until then. Follow your instincts
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Yes, I guess you can say I'm working my way into it. I have trouble not "treating" myself on my days off, and since I just cut out fruits, honey and nuts like 3 days ago, I have been having more difficulty.
My first two goals are to recover from adrenal insufficiency and lose weight. I love the idea of eating raw, and in my opinion I'd say that I eat practically no dairy or grains.
I am still working on improving my network for sources of more variety of organ meats. I figure it will be about maybe another 6 months before I have my sources lined up all slick, I give up "treating myself" and I give up freezing my food.
I wasn't using sweeteners other than Stevia until I cut out the fruit. I noticed that I lost 5 pounds in the last 3-4 days. I didn't want to jeopardize that by using honey as a sweetener, or using fruit as a treat instead.
I REALLY appreciate all advice, and I am taking all suggestions seriously, hence why I just cut down on carbs, and increased my protein intake. I know I have not been doing too good the last two days.
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being A-OK with transitioning while having realistic longer-term goals is an admirable quality. Statistically people that have a bunch of conviction and rules and methods of which to apply have less percentage of sticking with their approach.
That said particulary with modern pepople with a slew of pre-existing conditions..certain things for sure will have consequences on health that require tweaking: like the macronutrient thing, others..not so much ..like the coffee thing
Particularly when transitioning diets some things are more important than others. if two weeks/months/years or so one had all kinds of articifial foods in their diet, the few grams of non fermenty plant sweeteners, coffee and poor combined foods is not going to be much of an issue in the short term. There is some truth to going off certain foods entirely for periods which can allow for certain healing not present when those foods are eaten sporadically but that doesn't mean that huge health progressions can't be made that way too. For some people, they might find deeper healing without any such 'mishaps', but if one isn't actually doing a healthy diet or lifestyle and just adhering to such rules as being most important then the likelihood is their health will suffer (wondering why or ignoring symptoms and poor health) or they'll go off the diet entirely. Just my take.
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I ate one avocado
3 tomatoes
4 tablespoons of shredded coconut
1 cup of bean spouts
1 cucumber
2 tablespoons of hemp seeds
celtic salt
2 cups of pea pods
8 tablespoons of ground sesame seeds and
4 tablespoons of flax seed oil and
two tablespoons of lemon juice
more celtic salt
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ate 2 more kiwanos
craving potassium rich foods in general
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Had 10 full stalks of celery before going to bed.
Woke up in the morning ate
1/2 cup broccoli
4 spears cucumber
1/2 green pepper
1 tomato
2 tablespoons shredded coconut
2 tablespoons avocado oil
At about 930 I ate:
1 tomato
1/2 cup broccoli
4 spears cucumber
1/2 green pepper
I felt crappy like I was a bag of sand,
At around 1 pm I ate
250 grams of tenderloin
Still felt heavy
Ate an apple and a banana to try to shake the feeling and be productive (hope I didn't overdo my carbs for the day)
this had only a very minute positive effect
Started to feel better around 4 pm, when my project partner gave me a kick in the ass via e-mail.
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For supper I ate 200 g tenderloin
2 egg yolks and
180 grams of liver
Threw up after second piece of tenderloin
Continued eating shortly thereafter
Seem to be having problems gagging on fat lately
And I salted all my food today, real salt on my first 2 meals, celtic salt on my last
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I'm waiting when you will simplify your eating.
Looks complicated.
Mono meals (1 food item only.)
And zero condiments.
I admire your documentation.
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Seem to be having problems gagging on fat lately
I used to gag on fat and gristle. What helped was changing the way I chewed - I chew longer now, very patiently, and when the mouthful is down to the smallest lump of fat and connective tissue, I swallow it.
At home, I do not cut my meat, I just gnaw on it. At work, I take my meat pre-cut into polite-looking morsels.
I agree with goodsamaritan that your menu looks complicated, compared to what I eat. If you enjoy it, don't worry... but if you feel like you are balancing your intake with all those ingredients because of what you learned about "good" nutrition in the past, it's okay to go for simplicity and chow down and enjoy.
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I drank the water of one young coconut
then half an hour late I ate:
1 tomato
1 avocado
12 pea pods
4 spears of cucumber
celtic salt to taste
2 tablespoons coconut
2 tablespoons hemp seeds
a drop of fish oil
two tablespoons flaxseed oil
I am overwhelmed/afraid by the idea of mono-eating.
I leave home for 15 hours a day and I'm afraid I will starve, while having to work physically.
Also when I get hungry, I crave several things at once. I have trouble enjoying the thing that I am eating, because I am already thinking of the next thing I am going to eat.
However I will try it.
Tomorrow I will bring my foods to work whole,
I will eat breakfast this way too, and if I can handle it, I will try supper like this too.
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Didn't mono eat today...
My boyfriend didn't really understand what I wanted so he had all my veggies cut up for me for breakfast and lunch already...(he's a mono eater actually)
Breakfast was:
4 tablespoons of flax oil
4 tablespoons of shredded coconut
2 tablespoons of hemp seeds
Celtic salt
For lunch was:
1/2 avocado
1 tomato
1/2 green pepper
1/2 a leek
12 pea pods
4 spears of cucumber
Real salt
Around 130pm I ate:
About 350g of tenderloin, followed by about 8 small tomatoes someone from work grew in their garden.
At supper I ate:
340g of cod fish which I dipped in salted flax seed oil.
1/2 cup of sauerkraut
Celtic salt to taste
Shortly after I drank the water of one coconut
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Before bed I ate 1/2 cup of home made from cooked bones, gelatin.
I ate 1 tomato
1 avocado
7 pea pods
4 spears of cucumber
topped with 4 tablespoons of coconut (shredded)
and 1 teaspoon of honey on top, no salt.
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Flax oil and hemp seeds... mucho estrogen... too much.
Try getting rid of all nightshades and see how you feel.
When I eat 2 tomatoes a day for a few days I feel sick.
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I am overwhelmed/afraid by the idea of mono-eating.
I leave home for 15 hours a day and I'm afraid I will starve, while having to work physically.
I understand.
This comes from the usual perception of how much meat to eat.
I think most people here chow down at least 1/2 kilogram / 1.1 pounds of raw meat and fat a day total.
So if you brought with you 1 kilo / 2.2 pounds of fatty meat, you could eat that in 3 meals and would still not be able to finish it all. You won't go hungry with 2.2 pounds of fatty meat.
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Hey guys
For breakfast I ate
1/2 an avocado
1 tomato
5 slices of leek
a quarter of a cucumber
12 sugar peas
celtic salt to taste
flax seed oil
4 tablespoons of shredded coconut.
liver (120 grams)
At 10 am:
1/2 an avocado
1 tomato
5 slices of leek
a quarter of a cucumber
12 sugar peas
Real salt to taste
At 2 pm I ate:
about 300 grams of strip loin
For supper I ate:
340g of strip loin
2 egg yolks
I felt sad/pissed off the majority of the day today.
I'm gonna try giving up tomatoes and peppers. Gotta go shopping for new veggies, although I don't know what the hell I'm going to eat.
What is a more sensible alternative to the flax oil?
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I would try to substitute some fatty fish for the flax oil.
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Yeah, but if I ate fatty fish twice a week, would it be okay for me to use say cold pressed olive oil to garnish my vegetables?
Ate a full coconut before bed
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Yeah, but if I ate fatty fish twice a week, would it be okay for me to use say cold pressed olive oil to garnish my vegetables?
That avocado you eat makes a great dressing for your veggies, just smash it with a fork.
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Ate 2 coconuts before going to bed.
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Yeah, but if I ate fatty fish twice a week, would it be okay for me to use say cold pressed olive oil to garnish my vegetables?
Ate a full coconut before bed
I wouldn't go overboard on the olive oil. I would only use it if it makes your health better.
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K for breakfast I had:
2 small carrots
1/2 a normal sized parsnip
1 avocado
1/2 cup broccoli
1/2 cup alfalfa sprouts
2 tablespoons of olive oil
3 tablespoons of shredded coconut
At 10am I had
2 small carrots
1/2 a normal sized parsnip
1 avocado
1/2 cup broccoli
1/2 cup alfalfa sprouts
At 2 pm I had
400 g of sirloin steak
I am eating my way through 540g of fresh(not previously frozen) salmon.
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I am eating my way through 540g of fresh(not previously frozen) salmon.
Wild or farm-raised?
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Wild!
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Have you heard Ray Peat talk about pro thyroid diets?
He is pretty damn condemning of cruciferous vegetables.
I don't agree with a lot or even most of what the man says but he has a lot of really interesting ideas.
Me thinks he and Sally Fallon are top contenders for best "normal" diet nutritionists, at least of the ones I have heard of.
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Wild!
Thats good to hear, keep it up. The farm-raised salmon is not fed a very healthy diet.
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K cool, I'm done typing my menus now.
Thanks for your input ya'll. Feelin good the last couple days, I'm gonna keep it up eating healthy.
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How are you doing, Sally?
Have you heard Ray Peat talk about pro thyroid diets?
Is that the guy that drinks pasteurized milk?
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Hey guys, just a quick update, I managed to get out of that job I was working that was bad for me mentally and physically, by starting my own business. The air I am breathing is way fresher, the work is less physically strenuous, and I'm not dealing with situations/people that make me feel badly about myself. I knew it was affecting me, but it's still weird to see how much. Like, my body changed it's fat distribution over the course of a couple weeks. (skinnier around the waist, arms got smaller, butt got bigger, stomach looks more toned.) I haven't been eating raw, because I live at camp, so I basically eat what they have for raw veggies on half my plate, and cooked food on the other half. But, I'm on days off now and I haven't touched a morsel of cooked food, just meat and alkaline plant food. Also they have raw milk cheese at one of the local grocery stores soI have a bit of that here and there. I don't over do it though, because I don't crave it much. Is is safe to eat partially freezer burned meat raw?
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Good job Sally!
Yeah, freezer burned meat is ok, just try to eat it as soon as it thaws to minimize further oxidation of nutrients.
Glad to hear you're in a healthier place mentally and physically!
What kind of business are you starting?
Keep in mind that most commercially available "raw" milk cheeses are actually cooked, just not to the legal definition of pasteurized so they can claim them to be raw. Unfortunately there are a ton of products labeled raw out there that are not even close.
Glad to hear you're finding this WOE helpful! Keep up the great work!