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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: Fermenter Zym on November 05, 2011, 11:16:42 am
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I eat raw pet food from US Wellness Beef on a daily basis and I was wondering if the mixture of 65% lean ground beef (90% total product), beef liver (5%) and beef heart (5%) will cause too much Vitamin A intake. If I eat a pound a day I would be eating about 0.05 pounds or ~23 grams of liver. My daily vitamin A would likely be about 9000 IU and I don't believe I eat any foods at the moment to balance the Vitamin A with Vitamin D (I'm all out of Cod Liver Oil).
I sometimes still get cravings for whole raw liver and often feel really good after eating it, but as of late I haven't had the same euphoric feelings after eating it and am wondering if I've had enough. The Weston Price Foundation recommends "A maintenance dose of cod liver oil that provides about 10,000 IU vitamin A daily, obtained from 2 teaspoons of regular cod liver oil or 1 teaspoon of high-vitamin cod liver oil" so it sounds like the amount of Vitamin A I get from liver each day is a safe dose, but I wonder if I need more Vitamin D.
What do you all think? Am I eating too much liver? Do I need more Vitamin D? Where would I get the Vitamin D from?
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I think they are very careful not to add enough liver that would poison dogs much smaller than you. That said if you are eating tons of liver on top of that it might not be the greatest idea. Probably just pay attention to those signals as you are doing and be aware of any actual signs of true poisoning, or just go on intentional breaks from the whole liver for a week or so every so often. A lb a day of that stuff is probably nothing. No clue on the D in relation to A but you could try the regular prescribed menu in food for minor amounts of D, like seafood, or for heavy doses take supplements like the oil or pills, or take a vacation in a sunny location.
Most people seem to start shitting their brains (ok, ingested liver, whatever) out prior to the problems you are speaking of.
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Most people seem to start shitting their brains (ok, ingested liver, whatever) out prior to the problems you are speaking of.
Yeah, TylerDurden became completely unable to digest liver for a while, it just passed right through him, because he was eating so much of it.
I think you'll be fine, as long as you don't eat extra liver.
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I eat about 3 oz of lamb liver almost every day. I love the taste and start missing it after a few days if I stop eating it. A friend of mine starting supplementing vitamin D and said it made her stiff shoulders feel better, so I bought vitamin D-3 from Trader Joe's just to experiment and see how my stiff shoulders felt. So far, I've gotten a lot of relief. I chew the capsules and spit out the gel-cap. I also eat a few good egg yolks every day.
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My wife and I eat around half a pound of liver a day... We dont look like the simpsons yet...
Sometimes I even eat a whole pound of kidney!!! (because some guy here said that over 250g of kidney has enough something to hospitalize you.)
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You can always get vitamin D from sunshine. Even during winter there are occasional crisp and sunny days; on such days I trounce around for brisk walks in my shorts and jersey. It feels invigorating and everyone will think you are a frost inoculated superman as they shiver beneath multiple layers of clothing.
Natural retinol is safe in my opinion. Liver is lovely, and I eat plenty.
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When hubbie was researching vit D he came across something that indicated getting your vit D from cod liver oil did not work because something prevented the D from being absorbed, but now for the life of me I can't remember the details. I wouldn't depend on the cod liver oil for your D.
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ive eaten more then a pound of liver a day, and eaten up to a pound per day for days on end
though i have really bad anemia as well as a compromised liver of my own and doubt i am absorbing the full nutrient content, or that even a healthy person would absorb every microgram of nutrition from the liver..usually before i add it to a meal i take a bite and see if it is what i want to eat, sometimes it tastes different and i dont want any after that bite and sometimes i munch down a ton right there, just depends....try that out, start listening to and trusting your own body
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After some thought - we think it was that vitamin A interferes with vitamin D and cod-liver oil is so high in vitamin A that you don't absorb much of its vitamin D when you take cod-liver oil.
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After some thought - we think it was that vitamin A interferes with vitamin D and cod-liver oil is so high in vitamin A that you don't absorb much of its vitamin D when you take cod-liver oil.
It's supposed to be the opposite from my research, Dorothy. If you eat Vitamin A without D, it can be highly toxic in large doses, but with synergistic Vitamin D, you can eat a lot and receive the full benefits.
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It's supposed to be the opposite from my research, Dorothy. If you eat Vitamin A without D, it can be highly toxic in large doses, but with synergistic Vitamin D, you can eat a lot and receive the full benefits.
I bet I'm remembering it wrong Zym - thanks for the correction - but now it is really bugging me why they said that cod-liver oil is not the way to get vitamin D! and I'm going to have to go searching. That's probably going to be hard to find with all the research we did.... but I just gotsta know now!
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... - but now it is really bugging me why they said that cod-liver oil is not the way to get vitamin D!
Regular cod liver oil or fermented? Encapsulated? Which one was it referring to if not all when saying it's not a good way to get vitamin D?
I got cinnamon flavored blue ice clo, just to try taking d. Took it one or two doses, and it's nothing like food, made me burp oil taste, yuck! Anyway, now, not to waste it (it's expensive, and moreso than the price sheet read), I've been adding it to meat and liver dishes till I run out of the oil I guess.
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I bet I'm remembering it wrong Zym - thanks for the correction - but now it is really bugging me why they said that cod-liver oil is not the way to get vitamin D! and I'm going to have to go searching. That's probably going to be hard to find with all the research we did.... but I just gotsta know now!
I think it is because that Blue Ice fermented cod liver oil contains mainly vitamin D2 rather than D3, but it's the vit D3 that we want.
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I think it is because that Blue Ice fermented cod liver oil contains mainly vitamin D2 rather than D3, but it's the vit D3 that we want.
This I KNOW for reals about from nephrologists. D2 is the precursor to D3 so most people can do fine with D2 if their kidneys are working right - unless of course that relates to the clo issue.
The search for that quote continues!....
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It's been written some places tha d2 is vegan and d3 is made by animals. It's written else where that whether animal, plant or other, d2 is synthetic and d3 natural. Does anyone understand and know the science behind clo being d2?
I seem to remember the medical doctor prescribing us d2 tablets about 20 years ago. I don't recall it helping us.
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Here you go ------- I FOUND IT! D2 vs. D3 and clo. This video answers the above questions and concerns very well.
http://youtu.be/wiL_mb5Pf4Y (http://youtu.be/wiL_mb5Pf4Y)
Here are two short little videos on the difference between D2 and D3
http://youtu.be/HyZNkM7MgqA (http://youtu.be/HyZNkM7MgqA)
http://youtu.be/vWElfaHekLk (http://youtu.be/vWElfaHekLk)
But I should add that if you have sever kidney disease you need calcitriol.
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My wife and I eat around half a pound of liver a day... We dont look like the simpsons yet...
Sometimes I even eat a whole pound of kidney!!! (because some guy here said that over 250g of kidney has enough something to hospitalize you.)
Do you eat cow's kidneys or pig's kidneys? Do you have to clean kidneys in someway to get rid of the veins which I suppose used to carry urine? Does raw kidney taste like cooked one?
The salewoman in Slanker's told me she heard somebody said kidneys taste like urine!
My culture eats a lot of cooked pig's kidneys and I liked them. The kidneys have to be cleaned in some way though. My culture also says eating kidneys is great for one's kidneys.
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So Joy - YOU'RE the reason Slankers can't fill my order! >: ;) And you already have WF to buy from and I don't. Bwwwwaaaa.
But really - no food for doggies, no food for chickens - I'm never going to recommend Slankers again! They won't let me automatically order but don't have food for me when I do order. My poor beagle is suffering because of the radical change in diet.
Without a constant food source - how on earth can someone do a ketogenic diet?! You need ALL the organs - the whole animal. Slankers is undependable. Sucks.
What culture are you Joy?
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I find its much better to just buy whole animals.
Its not an option for everyone, but I suggest that if you are on a ketogenic mostly meat diet, you look into it.
I have found a local network of small scale family farmers that supply me with a 100 pound lamb about every three weeks. At 1.35 dollars a pound on hoof, its a very economical arrangement.
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I find its much better to just buy whole animals.
Its not an option for everyone, but I suggest that if you are on a ketogenic mostly meat diet, you look into it.
I have found a local network of small scale family farmers that supply me with a 100 pound lamb about every three weeks. At 1.35 dollars a pound on hoof, its a very economical arrangement.
No kidding that's economical! That's real lucky Sabertooth. I looked into buying a grass-fed lamb and they wanted $7 a pound even when buying the whole animal. I've been talking to a farmer that has miniature herefords - but still too big and too much meat to fit in my freezer and fridge. :( But I'm going to see if I can get a bunch of raw meat dog feeders to go in with me. Fingers crossed. She might be able to get me a goat - which hopefully won't be such a high cost as all the other options and will fit in my space. But I don't know if she will be a dependable source either.
I'm ordering bugs just in case the dogs like them - I know the chickens do. That will at least be an affordable source for one form of critter. I'll become a bug farmer! Then I'm thinking of starting to raise some fish (I can also feed the bugs to the fish) and then hopefully the dogs will have both eggs and whole little fish (the cats can have fish too that way). I haven't convinced my husband to eat raw bugs yet - boy - would that make everything much easier! :)
I just found a store here that carries fresh grass-fed ground meat (when they have it in stock - which is rare because it sells out) and guess how much they want for the ground beef: $20 a pound! They couldn't give me any organs or bones because they say that nothing goes to waste - they sell everything. No scraps at all.... and nothing left.... and no telling when there might be more.
I really do have to find some farmers that have whole smaller animals to sell me that aren't so expensive. Wish me luck! I hope I can get as lucky as you Sabertooth.
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I'm ordering bugs just in case the dogs like them - I know the chickens do. That will at least be an affordable source for one form of critter. I'll become a bug farmer! Then I'm thinking of starting to raise some fish (I can also feed the bugs to the fish) and then hopefully the dogs will have both eggs and whole little fish (the cats can have fish too that way). I haven't convinced my husband to eat raw bugs yet - boy - would that make everything much easier! :)
What bugs are your raising? And what bugs do you eat?
I'm not gonna lie, the idea of eating bugs still freaks me out.
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Zym - the truth is that I haven't gotten myself to eat one bug - but I eat little meat. Veggies and fruit and seeds do me good and I like eggs and dairy and with fish and suet I'm cheaper to feed than my beagle! My husband needs a great deal more meat than me - so that's why I think HE should eat bugs. lol. It's all these darn creatures that need so much whole meat animal that are my trouble. If I could feed them all worms then I wouldn't have to hunt down farmers like I am.
I just now made my big container for mealworms which is what I'm going to start with first. I have a small amount and some darkling beetles (what the "worms" turn into) from a pet store - but I'm going to order 5,000 or maybe more on-line - probably tonight. I once raised masses of mealworms but then one night a lizard must have gotten in the house and they all disappeared. That lizard must have EXPLODED. So I just made a container that will allow in lots of air but not lizards and hunter spiders and the like. I bought lots of organic meal for them as their bedding and I'm ready to go.
I used to raise crickets, but that will be later down the road to introduce them again. You have to be ready for crickets.
But this order I will be getting a whole bunch of red wiggler worms. Those I will feed my garbage to. Those are great. I used to compost indoors with them all the time. Their feed is free. Those I will definitely be able to feed the chickens and fish - but probably no one else. Red wigglers and mealworms are both pretty easy to raise. Roaches would also be pretty simple - but I can't get myself to do that. -[
Superworms and waxworms and silkworms are all do-able too, just not quite as much of a no-brainer as the mealworms and red-wigglers.
I'm also outside making a black soldier fly composter for the self-harvesting maggots. Chickens go nuts for those and that is totally free food.
That's what I'm up to on the bug farm. :)
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Dorothy, other grass-fed frozen companies have dog-food, like US Wellness and I'm sure there are others when Slankers doesn't have.
... YOU'RE the reason Slankers can't fill my order! >: ;) ...
But really - no food for doggies, ... I'm never going to recommend Slankers again! They won't let me automatically order but don't have food for me when I do order. My poor beagle is suffering because of the radical change in diet.
Without a constant food source - how on earth can someone do a ketogenic diet?! You need ALL the organs - the whole animal. Slankers is undependable.
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Dorothy, other grass-fed frozen companies have dog-food, like US Wellness and I'm sure there are others when Slankers doesn't have.
Does US Wellness have ground whole animal delivered? Oh - that would be wonderful if I could find another supplier!!!
So many dog foods add fruits and vegetables and don't use the whole animal.
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Does US Wellness have ground whole animal delivered? ... So many dog foods add fruits and vegetables and don't use the whole animal.
They do deliver, and they don't add fruit or vegetables to their foods. http://www.grasslandbeef.com/Categories.bok?category=Pet+Food (http://www.grasslandbeef.com/Categories.bok?category=Pet+Food)
These might help too: http://www.northstarbison.com/search.aspx?keyword=gland&category=Meat+Products&Scid=151&soption=1 (http://www.northstarbison.com/search.aspx?keyword=gland&category=Meat+Products&Scid=151&soption=1),
http://www.northstarbison.com/category.aspx?zcid=183 (http://www.northstarbison.com/category.aspx?zcid=183),
http://www.northstarbison.com/Bison-Mountain-Oysters-Package.aspx (http://www.northstarbison.com/Bison-Mountain-Oysters-Package.aspx) ,
http://www.northstarbison.com/search.aspx?keyword=ovary (http://www.northstarbison.com/search.aspx?keyword=ovary)
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US Wellness $4.19 a pound plus shipping. That's 25% more than Slankers - but I guess I gotta do what I gotta do! That will make feeding my beagle cost about $300 a month - not to mention the other two and the chickens. I'll have to research if they use the whole animal. The bison people are outrageously expensive I'm afraid.
Thanks so much Zi for the lead! I sure do need some alternatives.
Modification:
Looks like US Wellness just uses two organs and is LEAN meat (they brag about it like it's good or something). That's not going to work. I need to keep my beagle in ketogenesis and for that I think I need the whole animal.
I might have found someone today that maybe, might, perhaps could sell me a whole goat and then they might be starting up selling whole cow ground up for pet food for local folk so I could continue to get a supply. I'll know tomorrow. Wish me luck!
I'm still waiting on Slankers though hoping and praying that they can fill my order.
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So Joy - YOU'RE the reason Slankers can't fill my order! >: ;) And you already have WF to buy from and I don't. Bwwwwaaaa.
But really - no food for doggies, no food for chickens - I'm never going to recommend Slankers again! They won't let me automatically order but don't have food for me when I do order. My poor beagle is suffering because of the radical change in diet.
Without a constant food source - how on earth can someone do a ketogenic diet?! You need ALL the organs - the whole animal. Slankers is undependable. Sucks.
What culture are you Joy?
Nope, Dorothy. My very first order from Slanker's has not yet been shipped. So, blame on Slanker's. ;) But I am not upset with them. There was a bad drought and they are just being honest. I would rather they be honest with me than shipping me something of less quality.
As there has been good rain from heaven lately, let us hope this year Slanker's will be blessed and so do we.
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I had to troll around craigslist for a few months looking for sheep and goats before I got a good source.
Most people who post adds are trying to down size their flocks. There was a lot of people who wanted to find homes for their pet livestock.
I eventually talked to a woman who was trying to sell her older flock of wool sheep, she didn't want me to eat her sheep, but she had a friend that lived only 10 miles from me that raised meat sheep. I got 5 of the most delicious tasting sheep ever from the lady, for an excellent price.(I soon ate all her unwanted males).
Once I finished off her extra sheep, I asked the lady to call around for me and she eventually found a friend who has six to get rid off. They are all raised up on a hillside in Kentucky, and grass feed. These farmers are just as fanatic about raising healthy animals as I am about eating healthy animals. Both family farmers live in nice cabins, and have well kept grounds. The Kentucky hills has some of the cleanest, most nutritious soil for raising grass fed animals as well.
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Nope, Dorothy. My very first order from Slanker's has not yet been shipped. So, blame on Slanker's. ;) But I am not upset with them. There was a bad drought and they are just being honest. I would rather they be honest with me than shipping me something of less quality.
As there has been good rain from heaven lately, let us hope this year Slanker's will be blessed and so do we.
But it wasn't the drought! They told me my last order that they were just fine. I think it was demand and process (unless they were more honest with you than me ;) ) But at least you are off the hook now Joy! Good thing too. Since we live in the same town I might meet you one day and it could get pretty ugly if you go around chiseling in on my meat supply! snark snark ha ha.
Finally though - next week they said they will send out one third of my order and not give me the discount for the quantity I ordered even though because they will be shipping it separately over time because they don't have enough. Better than nothing! I didn't hear back from that other farm today like I was supposed to. :( I'll call tomorrow and see what they can do. I KNOW I will find something.
Hey Joy - are you far along with any of this stuff yet to ever share an order with me? I'm hunting hard for small farmers.
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I had to troll around craigslist for a few months looking for sheep and goats before I got a good source.
Most people who post adds are trying to down size their flocks. There was a lot of people who wanted to find homes for their pet livestock.
I eventually talked to a woman who was trying to sell her older flock of wool sheep, she didn't want me to eat her sheep, but she had a friend that lived only 10 miles from me that raised meat sheep. I got 5 of the most delicious tasting sheep ever from the lady, for an excellent price.(I soon ate all her unwanted males).
Once I finished off her extra sheep, I asked the lady to call around for me and she eventually found a friend who has six to get rid off. They are all raised up on a hillside in Kentucky, and grass feed. These farmers are just as fanatic about raising healthy animals as I am about eating healthy animals. Both family farmers live in nice cabins, and have well kept grounds. The Kentucky hills has some of the cleanest, most nutritious soil for raising grass fed animals as well.
Way to go Sabertooth! Nice. I can just see those green hills of Kentucky when reading your post. That sure does sound like the best place for goats.
I never really thought of craig's list because I want the animal ground up by a processing plant - but I guess even a small farmer can do that themselves or send it to a plant. I'm really trying to find a farmer that will keep on getting stock and replenishing to keep an even supply - otherwise I was thinking of searching c-list for hunters that have deer. Deer are what are really plentiful around here. My dogs adore venison.
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Hey Joy - are you far along with any of this stuff yet to ever share an order with me? I'm hunting hard for small farmers.
I might not be the right person, Dorothy. My need is small as hubby does not want to bite into bloody animal stuff yet. If Slanker's does not meet my small need for organs, I will just buy beef and veal liver from WF and fish from HEB. I also eat/enjoy a good quantity of raw dairy. Honestly I do not know if this animal diet will work for me. I have not felt any difference (I have mostly done raw Paleo this past month). So I am yet to be convinced that this animal diet works for me. I do not know where I will be two months down the road. So I only plan month by month.
You sound somewhat desperate. You must have great love for your family members who are waiting for you to feed them. I pray you will have succees in locating trust-worthy suppliers. :)
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I might not be the right person, Dorothy. My need is small as hubby does not want to bite into bloody animal stuff yet. If Slanker's does not meet my small need for organs, I will just buy beef and veal liver from WF and fish from HEB. I also eat/enjoy a good quantity of raw dairy. Honestly I do not know if this animal diet will work for me. I have not felt any difference (I have mostly done raw Paleo this past month). So I am yet to be convinced that this animal diet works for me. I do not know where I will be two months down the road. So I only plan month by month.
You sound somewhat desperate. You must have great love for your family members who are waiting for you to feed them. I pray you will have succees in locating trust-worthy suppliers. :)
That is sweet of you to say Joy - I am kinda desperate for my doggie with cancer. The ketogenic diet is important for her. My other poochie is getting skin stuff since running out of good food too - I hate having to treat him with coconut oil and making him look a mess when it's so easy to prevent instead. And my other old dog is hacking. My husband has what he needs glad to say.
If you aren't needing the whole animal then it's not nearly as hard.
The good news is that I AM getting a box next week!
So Joy, what was diet before trying raw paleo?
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So Joy, what was diet before trying raw paleo?
Dorothy, It is a blessing that you have three pets to love. I am sure they adore you too.
I read RawFoodTalk often these past several years. However I was not strictly raw vegan. When I ate with friends, I did not refrain from animal foods. But I did not have vibrant health so I was still looking for an ideal diet. One month ago I was just looking for a non-vegan raw forum that would accept raw dairy and not brand animal-eaters as un-ethical; and I bumped into this raw paleo forum. I have read much this past month and am getting a preliminary knowledge regarding how raw paleo/low carb works. Now I do hope it works for me. The most obvious sign would be that my long-time dark eye circle would go away.
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Dark circles often have to do with dehydration (kidneys) and dehydration can often be helped a great deal by increasing fat intake. Maybe that can help you? Have you been eating animal fat? How much water do you drink? Does it run in your family - sometimes it's just genetic.
I understand fully about not seeing any difference - but that might be because you are already pretty healthy. I think here the biggest changes I've noticed seem to have come to people that were the most sick. I haven't seen any changes at all since including red meat in my diet. The biggest difference I personally have experienced are ease, enjoyment and diversity - but I think those are worth a lot. When I added other raw animal foods like eggs, dairy and fish there were too many other variables to fully judge their affects.
Logically, keeping some animal products in the diet if you can get good stuff seems prudent even if you don't feel any big differences. I would work on tweeking this for a bit. If I were you, I might try going without dairy for awhile like some folks here say made a real big difference. I mean to really try raw paleo and give it it's full shot would mean not eating dairy. Who knows? Maybe that might be the thing that swings it. It's all an experiment right?
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Dorothy, thanks for input.
Dark eye circle does not run in my family. I got dark eye circle because of a very long period of poor quality sleep several years ago due to internal struggles. Well, I guess my sleep pattern could be more regular and disciplined even now. I did not drink much water because I used to eat much fruit. I drink 8 cups daily now because VLC makes me thirsty.
A Chinese medicine doctor told me that my liver and kidneys were not working well. So I am hoping to get some grass-fed kidneys/livers to see if they will help. Oh, you asked me about my ethnicity. I am from Taiwan originally so my ethnicity is Chinese. Chinese thinking is that if you are weak in a certain organ then eating much of that organ of aminals will bring healing.
I am relying upon cheese/coconut oil/nuts for fat. I have never had any problem with dairy. And in my raw vegan days I did not have dairy for years and that did not bring vibrant health to me. I am still waiting for my marrow bones to be shiped. If I like marrow, I will cut out dairy for a while.
"Logically, keeping some animal products in the diet if you can get good stuff seems prudent even if you don't feel any big differences. " That is right. So I am going to give raw animal foods a try for several months at least.
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Dorothy
If you are looking for cheap dog food, you may want to cruze the highways for fresh road kill. I use to pick up deer off the side of the road. I would eat what I found salvageable; the heart, liver and kidneys where delicious. I threw the awful to the chickens and the rest of the more mangled scraps to the dog.
I have a little Shetland sheep dog that was raised on raw meat scraps.
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Hey Joy, you wrote,
"I am relying upon cheese/coconut oil/nuts for fat. I have never had any problem with dairy. And in my raw vegan days I did not have dairy for years and that did not bring vibrant health to me. I am still waiting for my marrow bones to be shiped. If I like marrow, I will cut out dairy for a while."
I can understand how on raw vegan you might not have experienced vibrant health without dairy - but that does not necessarily mean that you won't when eating raw paleo. Raw vegan might not have had what you needed generally to achieve vibrant health - kinda hard to do that say without vitamin b12 as an example. If you give up dairy when you're fasting that wouldn't exactly count right? You have to conduct your experiment with all the same variables in place. Do you feel any better now than when you were raw vegan?
Kidneys - right - life force. Lack of sleep sure can stress out the kidneys. Kidney strength can be a bit tough to regenerate - but I'm sure you can. You know kidney 1 at the bottom of the foot right? I just love holding that point. I think doing that has helped my kidneys some. I hold that with liver 3 on the top of the foot at the same time. Feels so good.
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Dorothy, thank you for your input, which gives me food for thought.
So self-ministered massage/acupuncture works for you? Maybe I should investigate this branch of ancient Chinese medicine.
"Do you feel any better now than when you were raw vegan? " Not really. But it has been only one month. Besides I am not really suffering bad health....So I will give raw animal food more time.
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Sabertooth, I told my husband your suggestion that I load up our car with dead deer and he almost split his side laughing at the vision of me doing that. I can't even imagine lifting up a dead dear let alone putting it into the car!
It's such a great idea really and I wish I could do it, I'm just not ready for that yet.
A woman on my chicken meetup group told me she did that and slit open the belly for her dogs that guard her other animals and they feasted off the carcass for days. I was so impressed!
Maybe one day I will be that strong.
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Dorothy
If you are looking for cheap dog food, you may want to cruze the highways for fresh road kill.
This is actually genius. I don't have a dog right now, but this has got to be the smartest/cheapest way to feed a dog I've ever heard of. I might even eat the liver and organs myself, if it's not too high already.
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I guess I never realized how lucky I am to live around such a rural area.
I also have the advantage of knowing a few roving hillbilly's who help me search for fresh kill.
My bosses brother hit a 180 pound doe, in the head with his truck. The rest of the body was fully intact. So he loads it into the truck bed and takes it to my front door.
A Mexican co worker and his brother picked up a small buck for me. He will also set deer off to the side of the road and call me to pick it up.
In the summer time I will ride all around hooking up pool equipment. I got a deer, a ground hog and several squires, just on the way back from work last summer. A Palestinian co worker helped me load the deer into the work van.
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i've been wondering about too much liver... i've been eating egg yolks and lamb liver for breakfast and i love eating the liver... only a few ounces, but i'm entirely addicted to my morning liver!
i expect the liver will not be pleasing to me once i've had enough?? or at least i can recognize signs of too much vitamin a.
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I don't think it's easy to get vitamin A overdose from eating raw liver too much. Even Stefansson mentioned getting some stomach-problems as a warning after eating polar bear liver, and it's only the livers of Arctic animals which are in any way dangerous.
I once ate far too much raw liver(only eating raw ox liver every 2nd week) for some months, and what eventually happened was that my body refused to absorb any nutrients from it, and I just quickly got diarrhea after eating any liver. Otherwise, I had no symptoms.
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I don't think it's easy to get vitamin A overdose from eating raw liver too much. Even Stefansson mentioned getting some stomach-problems as a warning after eating polar bear liver, and it's only the livers of Arctic animals which are in any way dangerous.
I once ate far too much raw liver(only eating raw ox liver every 2nd week) for some months, and what eventually happened was that my body refused to absorb any nutrients from it, and I just quickly got diarrhea after eating any liver. Otherwise, I had no symptoms.
Tyler, did you eat only liver every day for an entire week?
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I've eaten over 1kg of liver. It's a complete myth you can sick from it you just crap it out.
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Tyler, did you eat only liver every day for an entire week?
Yes. Every alternate week, that is. I had found raw organic, grassfed liver to be ultra-cheap(2 pounds sterling per kilo) and I knew raw liver was very nutritious so thought this was a great way to avoid extra costs. Turned out not to work for me, though.
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Yes. Every alternate week, that is. I had found raw organic, grassfed liver to be ultra-cheap(2 pounds sterling per kilo) and I knew raw liver was very nutritious so thought this was a great way to avoid extra costs. Turned out not to work for me, though.
I actually think I thrived on similar amounts at one point. I had no idea about Vitamin A overdose at the time, and I probably ate 1/2 pound a liver every day for three months. I could be wrong in that estimate but I remember buying 7 pounds every two weeks or so.