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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: svrn on November 19, 2011, 01:17:04 pm
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When you guys go to sushi restaurants, do you ask which of their fish are wild caught? If they dont know, what are some fish that are never farmed and I can be sure were from the ocean?
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They won't have a clue, in most cases. Fishmongers will have a better idea.
Last I checked, salmon are almost always farmed, wild salmon costs far more and is usually labelled as such. Prawns/shrimps are farmed, I think, mostly, as are mussels(sometimes). Tuna is on the verge of being farmed, I recall.
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I do all the marketing in my entire house hold and I MAKE SURE all the sea food I get are WILD.
After years of being the marketer, you will know.
Many species of fish are NOT domesticated or farmed.
Attend fish farming conferences, you will know and completely identify which fish are farmed. You also travel, go to ocean fish ports and see for yourself which fish are wild.
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Can you tell me some of the species which are never farmed?
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GS, how do you identify them?
So far, I ate fish from the supermarket, but I think it's mostly farmed.
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In my area (California), ALL fish sold in a supermarket has to be labeled for country of origin. The label also indicates wild vs. farmed. At a sushi restaurant, the owner might know. I avoid this by buying my raw (labeled) fish at the market and preparing it at home.
There is really no such species that is only wild, but farming is usually done with fish of reasonable size - so smaller halibut or tuna can be farmed, the huge ones are from the open sea. As TD mentioned Atlantic salmon are farmed, but Pacific salmon, when available, is often wild-caught. Also, some farming environments are cleaner than others, reducing the objection to farmed varieties, IMO.
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Tuna
Blue Marlin
Malasugi
Big Lapu Lapu
Big Tanguige
Dorado
Hasa Hasa
Alumahan
Salay Salay
Dilis
Squid
Very big ocean prawns
Octopus
Ocean shrimp (lighter color, yellowish color, redder color)
River Shrimp (big claws)
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There is really no such species that is only wild,
Ummm, no. Actually, the only ocean fish that are farmed are salmon, and some tuna. Farmed tuna production is still very low. Farmed tuna is not sold much outside Japan, that I know of. Most farmed tuna is still fed the same diet that wild tuna eat, so there's little nutritional difference anyway. Most freshwater fish, like tilapia, bass, and catfish, are pretty much 100% farmed. Shrimp can be either farmed or wild. Shellfish can be either one, too, but it doesn't matter as much, because farmed shellfish eat the same diet as wild ones.
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Actually, the only ocean fish that are farmed are salmon, and some tuna.
Hereabouts, Chile and other countries send open-ocean farmed everything! True, open-ocean farming is cleaner than inland methods, but the whispers are that farmed ocean fish are genetically selected or modified. I don't think labeling laws cover that aspect.
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i get all my foods from a store called henrys (or sprouts).
If it says on the label (wild caught), does that mean its 100 percent wild and not farmed?
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i get all my foods from a store called henrys (or sprouts).
If it says on the label (wild caught), does that mean its 100 percent wild and not farmed?
They don't usually lie re that, I think. Such lies would get them into trouble with the authorities. However, if the fish is being packaged, that would suggest to me that it is already prefrozen. If you can get fresh, non-frozen fish that would be better, though not essential.
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Open ocean farming video
Oceansphere - Environmentally Friendly Open Ocean Fish Farming (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76TLGgjQMOc#ws)
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is ocean farming good or bad?
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is ocean farming good or bad?
If the fish is eating its normal diet, or a diet very similar, then I don't see a big problem.
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is ocean farming good or bad?
It's nearly always bad because the fish are usually fed on grains and other unnatural, processed foods. A few fish farms feed their farmed fish on wild fish, but I dislike the practice as it accelerates the denuding of our oceans of their wildlife. Lastly, I have personally consumed farmed mussels and oysters and their shells were much weaker than genuine wildcaught versions, and they were smaller and didn't taste as good, either. That said, farming oysters, mussels and clams is far more bio-sustainable since these simply feed off the algae etc. in the local waters. Perhaps their reduced quality is because I usually only get the wildcaught ones on a seasonal basis whereas the farmed oysters/mussels are collected all through the year?