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Title: fat alternatives
Post by: svrn on November 24, 2011, 03:33:57 am
Eeryone is really busy this thanksgiving and I won't be able to get my hands on some fat till next week. What should I replace it with in the meanwhile if anything? I've been eating some raw cheese so far to replace but wondering what others thoughts are. Coconut oil? Avocadoes?
Title: Re: fat alternatives
Post by: cherimoya_kid on November 24, 2011, 03:39:32 am
Make sure the cheese and coconut oil are truly raw.  Most hard cheeses, even if made with raw milk, are still cooked during the pressing process.  Virgin coconut oil is fairly straightforward to find, though, there are quite a few brands out there.
Title: Re: fat alternatives
Post by: CitrusHigh on November 24, 2011, 03:48:40 am
Most coconut oils are not really raw even if labeled as such so best to contact the company.

Avocados that are not irradiated are your best bet in the interim. If you can find a local asian market, they usually carry young coconuts. These should be full of good fats and the water can be drunk in small quantities too. Plus it's a whole food instead of a fractured and processed food like oils and butters.

Raw eggs are a good source of fats too, but truly quality eggs are difficult to come by in a lot of places. Good luck and happy thanksgibbling!
Title: Re: fat alternatives
Post by: RawZi on November 24, 2011, 04:15:46 am
If you can find a local asian market, they usually carry young coconuts. These should be full of good fats and the water can be drunk in small quantities too.

    Why small quantities?
Title: Re: fat alternatives
Post by: HIT_it_RAW on November 24, 2011, 04:21:52 am
    Why small quantities?
laxative
Title: Re: fat alternatives
Post by: svrn on November 25, 2011, 01:25:10 am
Wouldnt the stuff in the asian markets most likely not be grown organically?
Title: Re: fat alternatives
Post by: jessica on November 25, 2011, 01:55:33 am
organic butter? ghee? most health food stores carry these, perhaps you have a close/local heath food store or coop?
Title: Re: fat alternatives
Post by: Isthmus on November 25, 2011, 03:30:26 am
organic butter? ghee? most health food stores carry these, perhaps you have a close/local heath food store or coop?

Sure but these aren't likely to be raw. I've never seen raw butter in a health food store personally.
Title: Re: fat alternatives
Post by: cherimoya_kid on November 25, 2011, 06:56:25 am
Sure but these aren't likely to be raw. I've never seen raw butter in a health food store personally.

I think some states allow it, like California.
Title: Re: fat alternatives
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 25, 2011, 10:15:18 am
Eeryone is really busy this thanksgiving and I won't be able to get my hands on some fat till next week. What should I replace it with in the meanwhile if anything? I've been eating some raw cheese so far to replace but wondering what others thoughts are. Coconut oil? Avocadoes?

Raw eggs are easy to acquire.
Title: Re: fat alternatives
Post by: Ferocious on November 25, 2011, 10:22:20 am
I think some states allow it, like California.
Yeah, it is legal here but sells out quick!
Title: Re: fat alternatives
Post by: CitrusHigh on November 25, 2011, 10:38:07 am
I don't personally worry about any laxative effect with coconut water but sugar is my personal bane and so I tend to limit it even if from a good source like coconut.

I will sometimes drink the whole thing in one sitting, but I try to avoid such large quantities of easily absorptive sugar.  If you are going to drink all the water in one sitting, eat plenty of fat and/or fiber to slow it down.

If you're after eggs, farmer's markets are your best shot, no co-op here in minnesota that I know of sells worthwhile eggs.

As for not being organic. Yep, that's probably right, but they sell the same brand of coconuts in our co-op that they do in the asian markets, at a 300% markup! Also I doubt lots of chemicals are used in the actual cultivation but they may dip or spray the coconuts in something before shipping to keep mold from growing on them.
Title: Re: fat alternatives
Post by: HIT_it_RAW on November 25, 2011, 03:12:41 pm
If you are going to drink all the water in one sitting, eat plenty of fat and/or fiber to slow it down.
That's easy just eat the rest of the coconut...
Title: Re: fat alternatives
Post by: RawZi on November 25, 2011, 04:13:24 pm
laxative

    Maybe I'm one in a zillion, but in the tropics I could drink coconut water like there's no tomorrow, as long as I got them fresh off the tree and chopped them open etc. I averaged about seven large young coconut waters per day, I got about 24 ounces each.  I never got loose stool.  Of course I didn't get loose stools from 30,000 mg/day vitamin C either.  Ripe fruitarianism constipated me, green smoothie I can't even drink a small one without getting incredible constipation and it doesn't matter how many gallons of water I drink. The only things really laxative to me so far are raw butter, green juice, raw egg and highmeat, even then not out of control.  Some glands are too laxative to me. Chickweed has been laxative to me.  Senna just give gas, and all that C too.  Soaked prunes just made me sick but yes loosened stuff. 

    I don't think even if coconut water was laxative to you that it would be a problem with raw paleo, as this diet assists the body to do what it wants which is to keep the intestines clean and functioning well.

    Maybe you could ferment the coconut water, less sugar then.   
Title: Re: fat alternatives
Post by: balancing-act on November 25, 2011, 08:17:09 pm
Make sure the cheese and coconut oil are truly raw.  Most hard cheeses, even if made with raw milk, are still cooked during the pressing process.  Virgin coconut oil is fairly straightforward to find, though, there are quite a few brands out there.

I've heard that about cheese- how do you find out if it's truly raw? I've been eating little bits of "raw" cheese pretty regularly.
Title: Re: fat alternatives
Post by: CitrusHigh on November 26, 2011, 12:04:44 am
HitItRaw, yep, fortunately nature tends to include fiber and/or fat with sugar when she offers it.

Rawzi, same, haven't noticed any laxative effects but I'll pay more attention from now on.

balancing-act, you will have to contact the company or purchase straight from the farm. If you contact the company. Don't pose your questions as if heating is a bad thing, they may be more prone to lie to you. But you do have to ask very detailed questions to get accurate and effective answers. Because there is no good legal definition for raw cheese, they can call anything that hasn't been legally pasteurized, 'raw'.