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Raw Paleo Diet to Suit You => Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet => Topic started by: zeno on December 20, 2011, 01:29:04 pm

Title: Fermentation Experiment with Vegetable Juice and Pulp
Post by: zeno on December 20, 2011, 01:29:04 pm

I decided to try creating a fine 'kraut that can be eaten by spoon which has resulted in somewhat of a disaster that I'm not sure how to reconcile.

I juiced the 'kraut ingredients then mixed the pulp with the juice. However, the pulp has such a great surface area that it absorbs all the brine which results in a slurry of vegetable pulp and juice. The vegetables are not dense enough to be firmly compacted to the bottom of the container to allow separation from the brine.

I tried adding more water. This did not solve the problem--only diluted the slurry slightly to consist of more water.

I'm concerned that the aerobic environment will be dangerous and also that this experiment will be wasteful. Is there anyway I can salvage this 'kraut?

Title: Re: Fermentation Experiment with Vegetable Juice and Pulp
Post by: zeno on December 20, 2011, 01:30:54 pm

I've realized that the fact that the juicer I used tears and shreds the food into a fine pulp--rather than squishes the juice from the fiber--is one of the problems with my experimentation. The vegetable matter became much too fine.

Darn...

Title: Re: Fermentation Experiment with Vegetable Juice and Pulp
Post by: cherimoya_kid on December 21, 2011, 04:07:21 am

I would just juice some of the cabbage, and then shred the rest.  Mix the juice with the shredded cabbage, and throw away or compost the pulp from the juicing process. That's how I've done it, and it turned out great.

Title: Re: Fermentation Experiment with Vegetable Juice and Pulp
Post by: zeno on December 21, 2011, 06:09:14 am

Thank you for the input. I'll experiment with this technique.

Title: Re: Fermentation Experiment with Vegetable Juice and Pulp
Post by: achillezzz on December 21, 2011, 07:46:03 am

Quote from: cherimoya_kid on December 21, 2011, 04:07:21 am

I would just juice some of the cabbage, and then shred the rest.  Mix the juice with the shredded cabbage, and throw away or compost the pulp from the juicing process. That's how I've done it, and it turned out great.

gotta try that out too sound awesome!!
Do you add salt to that?

Title: Re: Fermentation Experiment with Vegetable Juice and Pulp
Post by: eveheart on December 21, 2011, 10:37:52 am

Slight variation: make the kraut, then juice it.

Title: Re: Fermentation Experiment with Vegetable Juice and Pulp
Post by: cherimoya_kid on December 21, 2011, 11:13:18 am

Quote from: achillezzz on December 21, 2011, 07:46:03 am

gotta try that out too sound awesome!!
Do you add salt to that?

I found that it was not necessary. 

I recommend using high-Brix cabbage, if you can find it.