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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: svrn on July 12, 2012, 02:07:36 am
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wouldnt all of the livestock being fed grain right now be getting food cooked grains? Wouldnt it be a lot better if you fed chickens raw grains? It can be debated whether or not certain animals should be eating grains, but what im sure of is cooked grains will harm them. Maybe thats been the major problem with the grain fed livestock industry rather than the grains themselves.
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Actually there is no debate about grains.
Grains in any form are the cause of countless diseases of humans and livestock.
I'm afraid that we need another 10k years to realize this.
Löwenherz
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I don't think animal feed grains are cooked - this would just add cost.
The problem is just that grazers should only eat small quantities of seeds from grass rather than the huge amounts used in some modern farming methods.
Experiments have been carried out with sprouted grains, which could greatly improve the health of an animal, but sprouting did not result in extra weight gain so has not been widely adopted.
One web comment from a small scale farming on sprouting feed - "My nutritional analysis just came back from the vet and it’s what we suspected about fresh sprouts…they are a superfood! "
Here is a sprouted grain mat, which is eaten roots and all...
(http://www.fodder-solutions.com/images/license-sprouted-grain.jpg)
(http://www.fodder-solutions.com/images/license-cattle-feeding.jpg)
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Because of the expensive food even cows eat candy. With corn supplies becoming progressively scarce, farm owners are turning increasingly more to an unpredicted meal source for their livestock -- candy.
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It is my understanding that certain animals can eat some grain such as chickens due to having gizzards which have the ability to process the grain.
also I saw an interview with aajonus where he says when he fed chickens nothing but sprouts they died (doesnt happen with unsprouted grains). I think it may have something to do with folic acid.
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Sprouted grains have another kind of toxin. I used to feed mine free range with no supplement but sprouting oats, not quite sprouted, but starting to sprout. A lot of feed is cooked. Pellets are steam pelleted. Soy generally has to be cooked or is even more poisonous and stunts growth rather than boosting it. There is a growing demand for soy free chicken and pork.
But where did you get the idea that cooking is bad? lol...
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Here is a sprouted grain mat, which is eaten roots and all...
(http://www.fodder-solutions.com/images/license-sprouted-grain.jpg)
(http://www.fodder-solutions.com/images/license-cattle-feeding.jpg)
uh, hate to break it to you but at that point "sprouted grains" are grass, that's probably wheat, barley or rye grass
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uh, hate to break it to you but at that point "sprouted grains" are grass, that's probably wheat, barley or rye grass
True that, BUT ruminants grazing in a pasture (1) do not eat the roots and (2) do not eat mono-variety of grain. Bottom line: agribusiness even knows how to screw up grass-fed beef.
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I was looking into one of those big sprout machines for growing trays of grass for my horses, so as not to feed dry grass,, as a small supplement. I asked a horse vet about it, and she was quite negative on it because of the high sugar content in those seven day grass sprouts, and blood sugar problems in horses... Just one opinion though