Paleo Diet: Raw Paleo Diet and Lifestyle Forum
Other Raw-Animal-Food Diets (eg:- Primal Diet/Raw Version of Weston-Price Diet etc.) => Primal Diet => Topic started by: Waungata on December 23, 2008, 09:19:31 pm
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How many of you brush your teeth with butter and clay? I've tried it with butter and clay, butter and baking soda, and plain soap with and without clay and/or baking soda. Adding minerals does seem to whiten the enamel, especially after going a long period with only using soap.
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I use baking soda and regular toothpaste when I haven't the time to get hold of baking soda.
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Back in the day I used to brush, but put nothing on the toothbrush.
I don't mind if teeth are yellow.
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If I do brush my teeth, it is with just a brush and nothing else. I used to use hydrogen peroxide and baking soda, but found it not to really be necessary.
I usually just don't brush my teeth, and my breath is fine unless I've gone off the diet
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I usually brush my teeth with either water or some organic soap.
I discovered the harm of flouride way many years ago and do not buy the commercial toothpastes.
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How many of you brush your teeth with butter and clay? I've tried it with butter and clay, butter and baking soda, and plain soap with and without clay and/or baking soda. Adding minerals does seem to whiten the enamel, especially after going a long period with only using soap.
:P I've tried butter and clay, and I like it. It gets my teeth the cleanest and so sleekly smooth. My teeth hadn't felt so smooth for a while before I started RAF. Eating raw whole eggs generally can clean my teeth too sometimes. It's the whites I think, but I wouldn't want to eat them alone -d. I've tried baking soda, toothsoap, Bronner's, peroxide, plain water. Plain water worked a lot better for me than SA(D) toothpaste. I started that when I was a teenager. I needed it too. ;D Baking soda tastes like artificial salt or something, I dislike that too much.
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I believed all the hoopla about toothsoap but it never seemed to make much of a difference. It did make my teath darker. You'd have thought that I drank coffee, tea, and smoked all day long!
Adding bicabonate of soda made a little differnce but adding clay made quite a bit of difference. To add to that, I've found butter and clay the best! The raw-vegan-induced enamel rot has gotten lighter as well as the rest of my teeth. The spots that disintigrated haven't come back but the enamel along the gumline hasn't given me any problems what-so-ever! My teeth feel and look stronger.
Anyone have a Raw Paleo substitute for butter? No offence to Primal Dieters.
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I believed all the hoopla about toothsoap but it never seemed to make much of a difference. It did make my teath darker. You'd have thought that I drank coffee, tea, and smoked all day long!
Adding bicabonate of soda made a little differnce but adding clay made quite a bit of difference. To add to that, I've found butter and clay the best! The raw-vegan-induced enamel rot has gotten lighter as well as the rest of my teeth. The spots that disintigrated haven't come back but the enamel along the gumline hasn't given me any problems what-so-ever! My teeth feel and look stronger.
Anyone have a Raw Paleo substitute for butter? No offence to Primal Dieters.
I either use nothing ( a little water...) or baking soda. I have a sister who uses sea salt, and another sibling who uses Himalayan salt (not much difference). Raw Paleo substitute for butter? Maybe making it from human milk -\
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Hi there, I use dental blotting and oil pulling- no toothpaste, brushing or flossing.
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I've heard you can whiten teeth with coconut oil. Let coconut oil sit in your mouth for 15 or so mins, and then spit; it also helps to remove toxins. I tried it once w/o much effect, but I would think if you did it once a day, it might work. Anyone tried this?
Also, while we're at it, for bathing I lather up w/ coconut oil, and then hop in a hot shower. I figure it should bring the blood circulating to the skin, where the oil should help toxins to transpire out, and maybe help protect me from various chemicals in the water (of which there are many in Vegas). After a few minuites of rinsing, I'll then take orange/lemon/lime and squeeze over my whole body and hair. It leaves me smelling like citrus for the rest of the day. Strong citrus also seems to soften my hair. Be careful though, if you use lemon/lime too often and too much on the armpits, it may start to sting after a few weeks.
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That is what I do- I oil pull with coconut oil first thing in the AM for 20 minutes, then spit it out. My teeth and gums are very good/clean as a result.
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"Oil-pulling"? What is that? Just swilling in the mouth and spitting it out? I wouldn't mind trying that except that I have food-intolerance issues with coconut-oil so would be afraid of swallowing it inadvertently. Any suggestions of any other raw substances I might use?
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Everyone I've spoken to about it does it about twenty minutes. Many use organic cold pressed sesame oil, but others use canola, olive Oil, safflower, sesame, sunflower or walnut.
Apparently it's supposed to help cure a lot of ills. See this article in the Hindu Business Line online edition: http://tinyurl.com/2ccvln
I tried it a couple of times. I don't have a lot of experience with it.
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Hi there, I use dental blotting and oil pulling- no toothpaste, brushing or flossing.
Hi Elainie,
Would you be willing to describe dental blotting for the forum? I like the oil pulling idea and will incorporate that into my daily routine. I floss because some of my teeth are very close together and food stuff sometimes get in between.
Juicy Dan!
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Blotting techniques explained here with a great vid explaining it, the 3 pound 50 is way too expensive tho, get em in bulk from the states for about 2 dollars each, about 1 pound each ...
http://www.anousta.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=111&Itemid=183 (http://www.anousta.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=111&Itemid=183)
Available for $1.50 here ...
http://sava2th.com/product5.html (http://sava2th.com/product5.html)
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my toddler brushes his teeth once a while with just raw grass fed organic butter. i see his teeth shines right away. i'm too lazy to do that. i know about oil pulling and this is so time consuming... i heard that's really helpful for gums and teeth.
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my toddler brushes his teeth once a while with just raw grass fed organic butter. i see his teeth shines right away. i'm too lazy to do that. i know about oil pulling and this is so time consuming... i heard that's really helpful for gums and teeth.
i hear that if you use organic strawberries to brush your teeth, that makes teeth whiter. in my country i never know any yellow tooth. i find this yellow teeth hear. every other people have this yellow teeth issue here and dentists are making tons of money.
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I'm not trying to steal the focus but what do those old farts (66) like me do to paleologically clean their dentures. I had a very serious calcium absorption problem growing up and lost my teeth the time I was in my very early twenties. They just crumpled in my mouth.
There must be a better, safer way to clean/brush dentures than using Efferdent or like products.
Any suggestions? Thanks in advance for any usable advice.
nero
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Any suggestions?
Fine clay would probably help.
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Some of us on raw zero carb have noticed that out teeth stay white and clean without brushing, same as our fellow carnivores.
Proof that the primal diet is not paleo.
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There must be a better, safer way to clean/brush dentures than using Efferdent or like products.
Any suggestions? Thanks in advance for any usable advice.
nero
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baking soda and vinegar/peroxide as a soak then brush/scrub em off if you want a more conventional technique then clay, it will effervesce so be careful(not harmful just messy, dont use this mixture in your mouth!)
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I'm not trying to steal the focus but what do those old farts (66) like me do to paleologically clean their dentures. I had a very serious calcium absorption problem growing up and lost my teeth the time I was in my very early twenties. They just crumpled in my mouth.
There must be a better, safer way to clean/brush dentures than using Efferdent or like products.
Any suggestions? Thanks in advance for any usable advice.
nero
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What type of dentures are they?
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'Couldn't really say what kind of dentures they are, Roony. Full top and bottom, of course; plastic with porcelain teeth, I'm told. Best I can tell ya. Lost a tooth a few years ago and they charged me double the going rate to replace the tooth with a perfect match. Since they are almost fifty years old, they probably differ greatly from the sets made today but since they fit perfectly, you can bet I'm not going to go get another set any time soon. As a matter of fact, the old temporaries still fit as well as the old final, finished set so I really have two utile sets.
I'll try all suggestions at least once. By the way, where does one find 'clay'?
Thanks.
nero
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'Couldn't really say what kind of dentures they are, Roony. Full top and bottom, of course; plastic with porcelain teeth, I'm told. Best I can tell ya. Lost a tooth a few years ago and they charged me double the going rate to replace the tooth with a perfect match. Since they are almost fifty years old, they probably differ greatly from the sets made today but since they fit perfectly, you can bet I'm not going to go get another set any time soon. As a matter of fact, the old temporaries still fit as well as the old final, finished set so I really have two utile sets.
I'll try all suggestions at least once. By the way, where does one find 'clay'?
Thanks.
nero
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If your on a paleo diet, it doesnt really matter if you clean them or not, just clear it of debris
But if it contains plastic, the bacteria in your mouth will detiorate it, as all plastics are liquids & leech chemicals, even food grade plastics
You can prevent this easily, by using some lemon or vinegar, as suggested earlier, with something granular as a gentle scourer, im not sure clay is the correct medium, as clay reacts to plastics
Some sort of dried herbs, or oats, would work much better, as they dont react to plastics etc.
Basically create an anerobic environment the bacteria cant feed on, like the lemon, vinegar, peroxide etc
The only problem is, some bacteria will always get at the plastic, its probably best to try & get fully porcelain, or none toxic dentures
Or even better, make your own denture moulds
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charcoal might work
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Hi there, I use dental blotting and oil pulling- no toothpaste, brushing or flossing.
How do you do the blotting? If you don't want to explain, can you recommend a very good link? Thank you Elainie.
Blotting techniques explained here with a great vid explaining it, the 3 pound 50 is way too expensive tho, get em in bulk from the states for about 2 dollars each, about 1 pound each ...
http://www.anousta.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=111&Itemid=183 (http://www.anousta.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=111&Itemid=183)
Available for $1.50 here ...
http://sava2th.com/product5.html (http://sava2th.com/product5.html)
Oh, roony posted some.
***Do this proceedure twice a day. We both do this and it really does work but people often resist change****
FINAL TIP Once a week hold a small amount SILVER SHIELD GEL in your mouth for 6 minutes to kill any bacteria that you might just have missed and AVOID those expensive trips to the Dentist. After 6 minutes just swallow it.
Funny they say to swallow the stuff, whatever it is.
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charcoal might work
Have you tried it yet? I just bought some powdered bulk activated charcoal. Some ladies in the health co-op swear by it for everything from skin to stomach to commercial creativity. Maybe we'll try it on teeth. I don't think it could hurt.
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i completely stop brushing my teeth after being rawZC. if i need to clean my teeth (like after eating sea food or so), than i put some baking soda tip of my fingers and rub on my teeth. that's all.
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i completely stop brushing my teeth after being rawZC. if i need to clean my teeth (like after eating sea food or so), than i put some baking soda tip of my fingers and rub on my teeth. that's all.
I agree baking soda is the best, why... cause it works, its simple, its mega-cheap, it lasts a long time, and not only can you clean your teeth you can clean your whole house with it too :o I love a product that can be used for many different things!!!
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Oh and if you need more whitening power use pure Xylitol with the baking soda, that stuff works great and tastes sweeeeet! Sometimes I go on a coffee or tea drinking marathon or I eat a salad of ground beets so a little extra stain removal is needed....the xylitol/baking soda makes it so white my eyes hurt...
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Have you tried it yet? I just bought some powdered bulk activated charcoal. Some ladies in the health co-op swear by it for everything from skin to stomach to commercial creativity. Maybe we'll try it on teeth. I don't think it could hurt.
Can't quote you any studies, but a friend told me that ingesting charcoal (accidental or otherwise) is a very bad idea. It is a carcinogen I am led to believe. Not meaning to sound nasty, but health food stores are an excellent source of nonsense. Expensive nonsense. They frequently sell awesome crap.
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Can't quote you any studies, but a friend told me that ingesting charcoal (accidental or otherwise) is a very bad idea. It is a carcinogen I am led to believe. Not meaning to sound nasty, but health food stores are an excellent source of nonsense. Expensive nonsense. They frequently sell awesome crap.
I was highly doubtful of charcoal too I have not taken any and have not tried it as toothpaste yet. I read some convincing arguments that for some reason it's not carcinogenic. I do not believe it is good to eat it. It absorbs away all your nutrients. The health food store is a strict vegetarian one. I just like some of their produce better than wholefoods and they have a great bulk herb/hab section too. I think every one of the hf's employees are vegetarian too.
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Duuuude....isn't charcoal the stuff you get left after burning wood and other substances, that cannot be good for you to ingest.
Even people that love to eat BBQ'ed charred food are warned to not eat the burnt parts.
Honestly I wouldn't rub that on my teeth and gums, even if you're not swallowing it you are rubbing it into your gums, its absorbed that way, eeek!
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By far the most amazing way to brush my teeth was with pure tea tree oil extract
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Honestly I wouldn't rub that on my teeth and gums, even if you're not swallowing it you are rubbing it into your gums, its absorbed that way, eeek!
I'm wondering if anyone can comment on their experience of brushing with it. I can't do that, as I haven't tried it.
By far the most amazing way to brush my teeth was with pure tea tree oil extract
Are you on the primal diet? I see no other info about you besides this post. How do you care for your teeth now?
It's funny, this discussion in the AV PD section, and practically nothing here yet and absolutely nothing here lately that he approves or suggests.
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my toddler's teeth is in perfect condition. i stop brushing my toddler's teeth for the past 5 months. his teeth gets little yellow sometimes, but when he chews on an apple or other things, his teeth gets brighter immediately. he never eats cooked food in his life. one and half yrs ago, he was raw vegan, i brushed his teeth every once a week, 'cause, his mouth was stinky when he used to wake up in the morning. since i put him on ZC RPD, he doesn't stink anymore.
i need to brush my teeth everyday. i guess many yrs of consuming cooked food and malnutrition effect my teeth. on ZC RPD, my teeth is very clean, but end of the day, i feel i need to brush. so, i use only baking soda, that's all.
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left after burning wood and other substances, that cannot be good for you to ingest.
I still haven't tried it. I actually read some convincing stuff (not in pd papers) about charcoal over burnt BBQ. I still have the full bag. Maybe I'll try it soon to tell you and Raw-Al and see if I can locate what I read about it. It was over a year ago and I just moved.
I still stick by terramin. It is an amazing healing thing.
Are you on the primal diet? I see no other info about you besides this post. How do you care for your teeth now?
By far the most amazing way to brush my teeth was with pure tea tree oil extract
Ben, I apologize if this is what you're angry about. If it's about me posting I didn't like the taste of the beef-heart on 30BaD, that seems likely given the timing of your pm, even though it's the only other thing I ever saw you post. Whatever it is, please don't be vulgar next time. Enough.
As for you being raw paleo, I believe you are. Post! :)
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Now it's many yrs past and my son is five yrs old and doesn't brushes his teeth. Matter of fact he forgets that every human being in this society brushes their teeth and that is norm. He gets almost perfect teeth. 24 hrs fresh breath and absolutely healthy gum. Animals in the jungle never brush their teeth and we are the only one who invented brushing our teeth. No need of brushing teeth. Also high meat consuption is very crucial, if u decide to not brushing ur teeth.
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Hi Raw,
can you clarify - you say your son is now on ZC RPD and also that his teeth whiten after eating an apple - ZC is zero carb and an apple contains carbs? Was the comment about eating apples from when he was raw vegetarian?
his teeth gets little yellow sometimes, but when he chews on an apple or other things, his teeth gets brighter immediately. .... since i put him on ZC RPD, he doesn't stink anymore.
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My son was raw vegetarian before he was 2 yrs of age. Then I switch into RPD. When I wrote this comment, he was already on RPD. He used to have an apple or orange once in a week. But now my son eats 10 or 15 oranges a day. Also he loves apples, but he doesn't consume that everyday. On our way toupstate NY every weekend, we stop our car and get some fresh free apples by the road sides. I can't force him to stop that. He eats everyday organs, muscle meat, bonemarrow.
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I brush with bentonite clay paste. Its is less abrasive than most clays, so it is gentle on teeth. I make it by adding a little water and leaving it in a jar to absorb the water. I make a weeks worth and make more before it is gone so the clay can rehydrate. When I first used clay I had some constipation so, I think it is best to start with clay water only to transition. High meat also helps the transition.
I love it, Thoth told me about it so I give him full credit. Oh yeah and swallow the clay so you get the benefit of clay and your own bacteria.
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I am curiuos as to why you would want to put anything with any abrasion on your teeth regularly. It will erode your teeth, which means they will be smaller as you get older and thus more fragile.
The whole brushing thing was a marketing ploy for the Pepsodent company where they sold garbage that actually wears away the teeth and causes decay by taking away it's natural defences..
There is a book written by a famous adman who was paid a fortune to make ads to sell the nonsense. He made a fortune for himself and the the manufacturer and went on to sell other unsellable things.
I am certain you don't eat sugar or any non-raw things so teeth rotting should be a non-issue.
Bad breath is primarily a digestive issue.
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I also like the bentonite paste, leaves the healthy bacteria intact in your mouth.
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I currently brush with coconut oil, and I don't rinse my mouth out afterwards. Leaving a little coconut oil on the teeth is helpful for the teeth and gums, I think.
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I agree Al, I wouldn't brush with the stuff daily, but our teeth are resilient and alive and can handle a polish once a week or less, which is about how often I do it. I don't think even brushing would be necessary at all if you were eating all raw foods that are part of your natural diet, but I eat between ten and twenty percent cooked and the clay (not bentonite for me, I use other french clays) gives the little oomf necessary to really get any of that garbage off. But even if I wasn't eating any cooked foods, I eat a lot of deeply colored foods like veggies and dark berries/cherries and I would still once in a while polish them with clay to get them their pretty whitest. When people find out that I haven't used toothpaste in years nor been to the dentist, and my teeth are fairly white, it causes them to pause and think about the scam that's being pulled on them. Even if they don't make a change, it's still a seed planted that may grow in to free thought.
And what was the bit about being certain she doesn't eat sugar or uncooked foods?
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And what was the bit about being certain she doesn't eat sugar or uncooked foods?
It may have not read easily. I was saying that raw food doesn't seem to cause rotting teeth. Whereas sugar and cooked food does.
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AL, u r sooo RIGHT. That is the explanation why my son never brushes his teeth. He is on 100% raw food diet. Everyday brusing itself is a very bad ddeal in general, forget the ingridient that we use as paste.
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i did brushing with terramin clay only for several months. then i decided it wasnt necessary and now i brush with the clay once a week or less. theonly time i brush is when i see some buildup between my teeth and gum, not sure what that white stuff is called but the clay takes care of it easily. other than that i think eating cheese or swishing milk around in my mouth before swallowing is giving my teeth all the cleaning they need. my teeth feel very nice after the cheese or milk.
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I have been inspired by this topic to start brushing my teeth with ground Allspice - it is soft enough not to damage enamel and it leaves a nice smell ;D
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My teeth weren't getting white with moist bentonite like they do with paste. I use all natural and fluoride free for now. I'm spilling a little ketones everyday trying to eat fewer carbs. It is effecting my stomach, breath, and mouth, most noticably in the morning -[. I'm feeling fine and loosing a little weight, so I think it is just a transition, but there is more plaque on my teeth too, even though my diet is perfect. I'll try again to switch to clay in another month or so when I stabilize.
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I stopped brushing my teeth about a year ago. I floss with dental tape about once or twice a week, followed by a long gargle of hot water and sea salt. This seems to work well for me.
I used to suffer from receding gums because of my constant brushing, but when I flossed this morning I noticed that they're starting to grow back. Seeing that is very reassuring.
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I've been eaten coarsely groud tongue, liver, kidney, speen and heart along with suet and other grassfed fat two days now, with very little else. My teeth have gotten smoother since, so that I haven't needed to brush my teeth yet!
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Wondering what exact kind of clay? Every time I go to buy clay I get the wrong kind...
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Wondering what exact kind of clay? Every time I go to buy clay I get the wrong kind...
Edible french green clay is the right kind.
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If your on a paleo diet, it doesnt really matter if you clean them or not, just clear it of debris
But if it contains plastic, the bacteria in your mouth will detiorate it, as all plastics are liquids & leech chemicals, even food grade plastics
You can prevent this easily, by using some lemon or vinegar, as suggested earlier, with something granular as a gentle scourer, im not sure clay is the correct medium, as clay reacts to plastics
Some sort of dried herbs, or oats, would work much better, as they dont react to plastics etc.
Basically create an anerobic environment the bacteria cant feed on, like the lemon, vinegar, peroxide etc
The only problem is, some bacteria will always get at the plastic, its probably best to try & get fully porcelain, or none toxic dentures
Or even better, make your own denture moulds
where can we find nontoxic dentures?