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Title: Question of the DAY?!
Post by: joej627 on April 08, 2014, 11:42:33 pm
OK GUYS,

Why do we think people enjoy cooked meat over raw for the most part in "civilized" (ha) countries?  I understand it from a sanitation perspective and what not.  I for one follow the vibrational principle in foods.  Basically most raw fruits/veggies/plant fats are best cooked.  There are "enigmas" in nature however.  As in cooked potatoes vibrate higher and digest better when cooked.  Certain animal foods fit that category for me as well.  As in very slow-roasted low temp type of stuff.  But the point is;  WHY do we seem to be attracted to cooked meats so much of the time before we are taught or otherwise find out due to health reasons?

GO
Title: Re: Question of the DAY?!
Post by: goodsamaritan on April 09, 2014, 01:23:25 am
flavor enhancing art.
Title: Re: Question of the DAY?!
Post by: TylerDurden on April 09, 2014, 01:58:29 am
This issue has been discussed many times before. it is quite simple:-  cooking creates addictive opioids which influence the brain and make us become addicted to the taste. In actual fact, cooking reduces the overall taste, it is just that we only start sensing this once we switch over to raw food diets for a time.
Title: Re: Question of the DAY?!
Post by: edmon171 on April 09, 2014, 02:16:11 am
Yes, and yes. The brain will quickly recognize and memorize the flavor that brought in the drug-like high and constantly seek it out without a concious effort to cease the behavior. Even if the flavor is nothing special or even off-putting on its own like alcohol. I've been off the grass for a while now but to this day I still get turned on when I drive past a dead skunk. And its not only opioids, meat produces compounds that act like benzodiazepines (valium/xanax) dairy produces casomorphine, cooked gluten is another opioid, and some cooked starches produce compounds that activate dopamine receptors like cocaine. Many plants in the nightshade family contain nicotine before they are cooked.
Title: Re: Question of the DAY?!
Post by: Projectile Vomit on April 09, 2014, 05:26:44 am
I wonder if there's a hermetic effect associated with the opioids created when food is cooked? That is a little of them is good for us, but when we developed technologies to cook our foods all the time we created a circumstance when we could overdo it and are thus lead to addiction, much as with sugar, salt, caffeine and other compounds we normally would be able to get a lot of but now can due to technology and industrial agriculture.
Title: Re: Question of the DAY?!
Post by: CatTreats on April 11, 2014, 02:31:24 am
Enhancements in flavor/smell that are addicting. It seems that raw foods just taste like a milder version of the cooked version. So, it seems that heat just highly magnifies the flavor, which is, not surprisingly, an addictive quality. Even other animals will be attracted to the smell of cooked foods. My dog was always RIGHT there when I ate a cooked steak.
Title: Re: Question of the DAY?!
Post by: TylerDurden on April 11, 2014, 02:52:44 am
Enhancements in flavor/smell that are addicting. It seems that raw foods just taste like a milder version of the cooked version. So, it seems that heat just highly magnifies the flavor, which is, not surprisingly, an addictive quality. Even other animals will be attracted to the smell of cooked foods. My dog was always RIGHT there when I ate a cooked steak.
Rubbish. Cooking reduces the flabour and taste of raw meats. The more one cooks it, the bigger the reduction will be. Addiction is a separate issue. It is interesting how most long term rawists prefer eating their meats on their own whereas cooked foodists usually  prefer to douse their  cooked meats in lots of sauces in order to enhance the lessened flavour/taste.
Title: Re: Question of the DAY?!
Post by: joej627 on April 11, 2014, 03:21:46 am
I definitely can vouch for that last one.  The cleaner you eat the more you lose taste for all the crap.  As in sauces, seasonings, etc.  I sometimes find myself in disbelief that people can eat all the things they do without a second thought.  It doesn't even look like food to me anymore.  Most sauces are just soybean or other strange oils mixed with corn syrup or some other crap sugar.  I make some great BBQ sauce though mannnnn.  Here the recipe.

-3 TBSP raw olive oil
-2 TBSP raw honey
- 1 tsp bbq herbs
-1 tsp cider vinegar
-1 tomato optional
Title: Re: Question of the DAY?!
Post by: edmon171 on April 11, 2014, 07:19:34 am
I just tried some raw beef fat today, the taste was noticably cleaner than the rendered tallow. I was afraid it would be all tough and sinewy but it was just buttery and awesome. Blows pemmican out of the water. I don't think I will lose my taste for a nice quick pan sear on a steak with the inside still cool, I say the flavor it adds goes well with the raw meat but anything past rare just tastes worthless now, even rare has lost most of its appeal. That charred taste on grilled meat bothers me now as well. I can't imagine seasoning raw meat, it just seems silly. Maybe some raw egg yolk or drawn butter for dipping.
Title: Re: Question of the DAY?!
Post by: CatTreats on April 14, 2014, 01:58:58 am
Rubbish. Cooking reduces the flabour and taste of raw meats. The more one cooks it, the bigger the reduction will be. Addiction is a separate issue. It is interesting how most long term rawists prefer eating their meats on their own whereas cooked foodists usually  prefer to douse their  cooked meats in lots of sauces in order to enhance the lessened flavour/taste.

I've heard that more and more here, so I'm sure it's true. I haven't reached that point yet, though. :c