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Title: Escolar (Butterfish)
Post by: CatTreats on April 27, 2014, 04:30:44 am
I recently heard about a fish known as "butterfish," that's supposed to be a very high fat, oily fish. Coincidentally, I also tried "white tuna" sashimi while out with my boyfriend's mom the other day. I looked up butterfish because I saw it being sold at the fish market I go to, and found that sometimes "butterfish" which is actually escolar, can be sold in sushi restaurants mislabeled as "white tuna." Anyways, I really liked the "white tuna" at the restaurant, so I wouldn't really mind getting it from the market, since escolar is supposed to be fatty. But I read some weird stuff online about side effects and toxicity ...

"Escolar's wax ester content can cause keriorrhea (Greek: flow of wax), gempylotoxism or gempylid fish poisoning.[4] Keriorrhea is similar to diarrhea, only the body will expel yellowish-orange drops of oil instead of liquid bowel movements. Some individuals suffering from escolar-induced keriorrhea also report other digestive issues, including stomach cramps, diarrhea, headaches, nausea, vomiting, and anal leakage; onset may occur between 30 minutes and 36 hours following consumption.[5] This condition may also be referred to as steatorrhea."

I didn't experience this myself when eating what was most likely escolar, but I also only had three pieces of it, and it said less than 6 oz will let you avoid the symptoms. But it even says that Italy and Japan has completely banned the sales of the fish because it's considered toxic.

I was wondering if anyone here eats escolar? If it's what I tasted at the restaurant, I really, really liked it. But I just want to know if the side effects are concerning.
Title: Re: Escolar (Butterfish)
Post by: edmon171 on April 27, 2014, 08:15:37 pm
I've never heard of escolar, but wax esters are produced by human skin cells as well. I can't imagine they would cause so much upset for a healthy person.
Title: Re: Escolar (Butterfish)
Post by: TylerDurden on April 27, 2014, 08:46:28 pm
I have eaten raw butterfish on occasion and I twice experienced this very weird anal leakage thing during sleep. I have thus avoided this food for  some time now.
Title: Re: Escolar (Butterfish)
Post by: ys on April 28, 2014, 04:24:18 am
My dad had one.  It was labeled something else at the store so they did not know.  He said it was very good.  He did have a massive oily diarrhea the next day (luckily he was at home).
Title: Re: Escolar (Butterfish)
Post by: CatTreats on April 28, 2014, 05:58:58 am
Well, to my disappointment, the "butterfish" at the market was black cod according to the guy. But he told me it was his favorite fish (though I hadn't confirmed if that was when cooked or raw), and insisted that I'd love it. It was ... weird. Had a strong taste, very salty, but somehow bland overall. After a few bites, I didn't want it anymore. It did feel oily in the mouth, so I assume there was some fat.

Sad night for us. I wanted to try escolar even if there were side effects.
Title: Re: Escolar (Butterfish)
Post by: cherimoya_kid on April 30, 2014, 10:16:41 am
I love escolar. As long as I eat less than 5-6 ounces, I have no problem.  However, it definitely causes oily farts if I eat more than that.  The flavor is amazing, though.
Title: Re: Escolar (Butterfish)
Post by: CatTreats on May 01, 2014, 05:06:53 am
I wish the butterfish at the market had been escolar. I want to try it soooo bad!
Title: Re: Escolar (Butterfish)
Post by: TylerDurden on May 01, 2014, 05:20:41 am
I wish the butterfish at the market had been escolar. I want to try it soooo bad!
Trust me, the oily stuff out the back end is a major disincentive! Eat it in tiny amounts.