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Raw Paleo Diet Gallery => Display Your Culinary Creations => Topic started by: Inger on November 05, 2014, 11:53:57 pm
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Just made this. A miracle food for me :) :)
http://youtu.be/CEq8Yc5tk3s (http://youtu.be/CEq8Yc5tk3s)
Fish head smoothie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEq8Yc5tk3s#)
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Inger, for laugh, you should check out Utube and search for Dan Akroyd's Saturday Night Live presentation of the Bassamatic. I think you'll laugh hard. If you have problems finding it, let me know,and I'll look it up for you.
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I am thankful for this video you made about the fish head smoothie.
Inspiring and will post on Facebook.
This I have to try in my healing protocols.
Share with my healer friends.
Name the drink after you.
How often should one drink fish head smoothies?
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Van... lol.. I think I have seen the bassomatic video...lol it is an old one black and white, no? It was funny ;)
GS,
you can drink the fish head smoothie every day if you want! I am certain it will not hurt you :) :)
It is a bit like drinking raw bone broth? But waaay better as you get it from fatty fish and the fish brain and eyes are awesome!!!! :)
It is especially great for mood... I would say a wonder medicine for depression!
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I can only manage to consume the heads of fish that are very small indeed. Anything the size of sardines or above I cannot stand as I get fish-scales stuck in my throat etc. Yuck!!!
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Tyler, just remove the fish scales then.
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Tyler, just remove the fish scales then.
I find too many of them so do not bother. I anyway prefer scaleless fish such as swordfish anyway.
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Choose a fish descaler that suits you.
https://www.google.com/search?q=fish+scaler&client=ubuntu&hs=IrC&channel=fs&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=qcFaVMz6OsyE8gWNkIKYCg&ved=0CB4QsAQ&biw=1315&bih=673 (https://www.google.com/search?q=fish+scaler&client=ubuntu&hs=IrC&channel=fs&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=qcFaVMz6OsyE8gWNkIKYCg&ved=0CB4QsAQ&biw=1315&bih=673)
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I can only manage to consume the heads of fish that are very small indeed. Anything the size of sardines or above I cannot stand as I get fish-scales stuck in my throat etc. Yuck!!!
well... Tyler.. that is why I do the fish head smoothie. I can just drink it down! Nothing get stuck in my throat.. and I get all the nutrients from the fish bone and skin and other parts of the head. You could do fish head smoothie too :)
I do not eat sword fish. It is one of the most contaminated fish out there. I prefer smaller fish like herring, mackerel and sardines. I am not too scared of heavy metals, as I believe a healthy body can clear them, but I still would not eat the worst fishes if I had another choice. I do not care about taste. If I have to choose in between taste and health... my health always comes first.......... (Francois will not like this... I know... -d )
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Whoa, sword fish the most contaminated? link please?
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Whoa, sword fish the most contaminated? link please?
I presume she is a devout believer in the mercury in fish myth.
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Whoa, sword fish the most contaminated? link please?
Most of the "most contaminated" fish lists are based on that species' location on the food chain. The higher up the food chain, the more mercury is bioaccumulated. There are corroborating lab tests that actually measure samples of various ocean fish species, but most of the fish lists are based on the general theory, not on sampling.
The human body's response to ingesting mercury is another matter entirely.
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I presume she is a devout believer in the mercury in fish myth.
No, she’s not! You’ve got to read Inger’s post properly:
I do not eat sword fish. It is one of the most contaminated fish out there. I prefer smaller fish like herring, mackerel and sardines. I am not too scared of heavy metals, as I believe a healthy body can clear them, but I still would not eat the worst fishes if I had another choice.
Yes, Inger is certainly wise to prefer smaller fish. The biggest and thus higher in the food chain carnivorous fish have in general accumulated the most long life toxics (and not only mercury), as Evehearth pointed out. It’s a verified and well known fact. Since swordfish are in average much bigger than tuna, they are likely to be more loaded in toxics – a saw a stat showing 4 times more mercury in swordfish than in tuna. This doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t eat swordfish at all, but avoiding to regularly eat it in large amounts is safer.
Here in Portugal, the fishmonger descale in front of you the fish you buy.
I do not care about taste. If I have to choose in between taste and health... my health always comes first.......... (Francois will not like this... I know... -d )
You do what you want and it doesn’t bother me! :)
But if you don’t care about taste, you run the risk of poisoning yourself. Have you ever observed how a mammal like a cat, for example, carefully chooses its food by smelling it — and certainly by observing its taste? Moreover, ignoring taste makes you unable to know what good and what’s bad for your health. You suppose fish heads are good for your health, I presume because it makes you feel good in the short term. But it doesn’t mean it’s good in the long term and in any amount. Coffee, alcohol and various drugs can also make you feel great in the short term!
By the way, when do you intend to come? ;)
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For those curious newbies, I should add that the whole notion re contamination being a serious problem high up the food-chain etc. is a myth. Here is a link to the definitive study which showed that Seychelles Islander children who ate c.10 times as much seafood as the average american in a year experienced no ill-effects from so-called "contamination" re mercury or anything else:-
http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/pediatrics/research/Seychelles-Child-Development-Study.aspx (http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/pediatrics/research/Seychelles-Child-Development-Study.aspx)
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Tyler, this study says:
So far we have not seen any adverse effects of this exposure. We need to continue the study in different groups of Seychellois mothers and children to see whether such effects may become apparent later on (e.g. when the child is an adolescent) and to see whether others things in the Seychellois diet may protect against mercury.
I’m curious what species of fish are mainly consumed in Seychelles. Swordfish is certainly not the main fish consumed.
Another point is that mercury is not the only toxic bio-accumulated in fish. There are for example PCBs, organochlorine pesticides (DDT and derivatives) and plastic molecules from waste. Moreover, sea pollution widely varies from one place to the other.
We should have a balanced, open minded view rather than an “all or nothing” one. That said, I eat fish several times a week, almost everyday, but I care that they come from clean waters and I avoid to eat swordfish, marlin or chunks of very large tunas too often.
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I should add that the above Seychelles study got started in the 1980s and is still ongoing. It is therefore far more rigorous than any other claims that mercury in fish is harmful. Indeed the latter one or two studies have been shown to be majorly flawed. What is ironic is that those who started the Seychelles study originally were convinced that the tiny amounts of mercury ingested were doing harm but then found that, in fact, ingestion of seafood made them better on a neurological level.
Incidentally, the Seychellois eat lots and lots of tuna but likely only some swordfish given this article:-
http://afrol.com/articles/11365 (http://afrol.com/articles/11365)
Somehow I doubt that the Seychellois intentionally avoid deep sea fish because of any mercury-content. They seem happy to eat what they catch in nearby waters.
The way I see it, we already have endless absurd, overhyped food-scares in the media about the so-called "dangers" of raw foods re bacteria and food-poisoning etc., so why should we encourage the demonisation of perfectly healthy raw foods like swordfish which I and many other RVAFers have thrived on for many years.
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The point isn't to demonize swordfish! You obviously didn't have swordfish as your main food during these many years, did you? Who are those "many other RVAFers (who) have thrived on" swordfish? l)
BTW, I like your new signature!
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There were a few months when swordfish was my favorite staple thing.
In our wet markets we call them "blue marlin".
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I ate lots of swordfish prior to going to Austria. In fact, something like a kilo of swordfish a week on average for several years, sometimes more, sometimes less. I find it to be the 2nd-best tasting raw seafood I have ever encountered, with raw scallops tasting the best.
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Tyler I am not scared of mercury in fish....LOL
Francois says it pretty clear, how I think about it :) Thanks Francois ;)
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Well.. Francois so far the fish head has certainly not hurt me... ;) It is more the yuck factor than the taste that prevent me from eating whole fish heads.
I want to come visit you! But now there has happened something crazy in my life... again :o that is... good crazy! I need to figure this thing out first.. i will have it figured out until the end of the year for sure..... it is just CRAZY... who would have thought.....
i will tell one day in my journal -X maybe after Christmas....
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I haven't made a fish head smoothie yet, though I have chewed up sardine heads, which are not bad if you can get all the scales off.
This may be somewhat gruesome to people outside of this forum.....
I've been thinking about whole animal smoothies as a way to absorb the maximum nutrition possible. I have 5 bunnies and a blentek. Two of the rabbits are bred and may give birth sometime in the next few weeks. Since there are limited number of hutches, I was thinking about making a smoothie with whole buck bunnies.
I also have a pregnant guinea pig ready to give birth anytime, I am going to skin, gut and blend, the cull males.
It may take some experimentation to find the perfect recipe, but if a bunny smooth taste as good as it sounds I may be onto something good. I will let everyone know how it turns out.
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i have got a fish that weights 1,8 kg .
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyprion_americanus (http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyprion_americanus) (if i'm not wrong hehe)
so imagine his head. it weights like between 400-600 grms.
have you done smooth with this size heads? do you recomend me? how can i use the parts of the fish that i cant chew ? like the spines and the skin? it safe to blend ALL the fish and drink it? (it has sharp little teeths..)
I will do it even if nobody answer.. but i want to know what is your experience in this =)
oh i have already done it while i was writing lol . i had one issue.. i think my blender isn't powerful enough.. the skin wasnt totally desintegrated and also the spines where not totally dissolved.(maybe more time? it was like 3 minutes full power..) i did it mixing with whey instead of water.
can i ask, Inger, the smooth you do, are really "creamy" or they have little pieces on it?
i did not have the courage to just swallow it entirely like you do, cause the little pieces of spines didnt gave me trust. i just swallowed the parts that dissolved in my mouth and spitted the rest (the cats ate that haha)
it tasted a lot better than i tought it would ... hehe..
i left some, and cause it was with whey and i read that if you let fish in whey it gets soft over time, i want to see what happens with a smoothie with whey.. i will let it ferment at least a week and see ^^
thanks for your video! if i had not saw it i would never use the fish heads!
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Well, I use herring and mackerel, no other fish so far.... and they blend pretty well in my blender. I have a cheap blender too, and many years old but it works just fine! The herring heads blends better as the mackerel heads, the herring is smoother and smaller.... I get some bits and pieces in my smoothie too but I just swallow them..lol If they are too big tho I spit them out. If you want it more pleasant you can sieve the smoothie.
I just tried a new thing yesterday. I got whole herrings, used the heads and fishmilk and roe for smoothie... and then I fillet them and make chevice from the meat. But I always get the bones left and throw them away but I thought why not make a fish bone smoothie? So I tried, I just cut the fish bones a bit up and threw in my blender with some mineral water. I was so surprised as it blended really well! It came out totally smooth. I still hold my nose.. I just do not care to taste it..lol But now I am going to do that too, use the bones! Must be a great cocktail too with lots of minerals!
I sometimes add soaked seaweed to my fish head smoothie and it is easier to drink then, and tastes better too.
Makes it smoother and easier to go down, really.
Fish fermented in whey...haha..... let us know how that goes! I do not use whey at all... so i cant try that... but I sometimes leave the fish heads for a week in the fridge and still use them... err... IDK if it is a bad idea or no? They taste way worse by then.... but I tell myself it does not matter because people make fermented fish too. Fish sauce is fermented fish, really. I do know rancid fish oil is bad but maybe it is totally different when it is the whole fish/fishhead? I really have no clue but until I get any ill effects from old fish I will eat it occasionally...... because i do not care to freeze my fish all the time. I get fresh fish on the market only once/week
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can i ask , what is fishmilk? i looked for translations but i did not find any!
i was making cheese so i have like 4 liters of whey, i put all in a 7 liters glass jar, and put inside tail (without meat, just leftovers that i ate: skin and bones) and fins and more bones, jawbone hehe.. maybe if i left there for a month or so, then it will blend a lot easier.
i think there is no problem swallowing little pieces of spines (if you have done it several times and you are still writing here ), i did yesterday with the smoothie and today i'm feeling really fine.. our gastric juices must be strong enough to dissolve even big pieces of spines, they are not as hard as bones. (and maybe we can even dissolve little pieces of bones?)
have you thought on any spice or anything that can be added, so it can be also enjoyed when drank? (it wasn't bad either. but i didn't enjoyed it like eating the meat of the fish) i will add some high fish next time and see what the taste is hehe.. this high fish is actually cheesy smell.
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... our gastric juices must be strong enough to dissolve even big pieces of spines, they are not as hard as bones. (and maybe we can even dissolve little pieces of bones?)
There was a study I read about where the researcher swallowed a whole small rodent and then examined his feces for bone remnants. He found that no bones exited his digestive tract intact.
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reminds me of a French guy who supposedly ate an entire airplane! ;D
The new trend: raw mechanivore diet ;)
Michel Lotito: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Lotito (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Lotito)
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Dear Inger, I was always curious about your fish smoothie. Thank you for this great video. I wonder , why don't you blend the whole fish instead of the head only? I can picture myself eating entire smoothie without holding my nose LOL -d.... I will look for ur kind of fish from my local Whole Food place. But other day I purchased a fish's head and bones for ONLY 99 cents lbs while that fish fillet they r selling for $30 per lbs. So I also get skin, stomach, liver and lots of fats. I ate some raw just chewing on that. Rest of that my mom cooked. Here are the photos
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reminds me of a French guy who supposedly ate an entire airplane! ;D
The new trend: raw mechanivore diet ;)
Michel Lotito: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Lotito (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Lotito)
Incredible but true! I didn’t know about this man, but found plenty articles about him on the web. "It worked for him” until “he died of natural causes in 2007 at 57 years old”. I could not find out what these “natural causes unrelated to his diet” were. I wonder how it can be said that his death was unrelated to his diet? Causes and effects… see my signature!
http://flickeringpictures.com/2009/01/02/the-man-who-ate-an-airplane/ (http://flickeringpictures.com/2009/01/02/the-man-who-ate-an-airplane/)
His diet since 1966 included 18 bicycles, 15 supermarket trolleys, seven TV sets, six chandeliers, two beds, a pair of skis, a low-calorie Cessna light aircraft and a computer. He is said to have provided the only example in history of a coffin (handles and all) ending up inside a man. By October 1997, he had eaten nearly nine tons of metal
http://listverse.com/2012/12/07/10-ridiculously-stupid-world-records/
Michel Lotito is a legend in the realm of weird records and abilities. He was able to chew up almost anything and eat it. He demonstrated his ability to chew up light bulbs, razor blades, glass bottles, and lots of other sharp, not-so-nutritious objects. He still had to eat regular food to live, and his hobby wore his teeth down to nubs, but he refused to stop. He was born with a stomach lining over twice as thick as normal, which is why he did not die of peritonitis.
His most famous feat came in the 1990s, when he spent two years eating a Cessna 150. He first had to break it up with a sledgehammer, acetylene torch, and bolt cutter, but did bite most of the glass parts directly off the plane, chew them up, and swallow them. He passed every single metal and glass part through his system in the normal way, including the engine. He even ate the upholstered leather seats, and the tires. He died “of natural causes” in 2007 at 57 years old. Perhaps no one would dare attempt to eat a larger plane, but there are plenty of raisin cakes out there who think they might have what it takes to chew up a razor blade and swallow it without harm.
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hi again! i have another question :P
i have been able to get a whole fresh fish, with organs too! i'm very happy
now my question is, is there any organ that is not safe for human consumption? did you have any bad experience?
i'm planning to make a smooth with the organs tomorrow for breakfast, i tried them (little piece of each one) and one of it is kinda "granulated" like fatty, and tasted strong, a little bitter, are all organs ok to eat? the fish does not look rancid.
have you done it?
i have read that you use the organs mixed with the head!
this fish weights 4kg so is big head haha i will have for 4 or 5 smoothies with organs and head X)
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safe.... no....lol it all depends on your situation I guess!
You can get parasites especially from consuming the organs..... do I care myself? Not really.... I usually eat the white fish milk, the thing that are in the make fish when female fishes have roe.. and then I do the roe... and sometimes liver too... I ditch the intestines. But they might be beneficial too? You can test it out and report.... might be greats stuff.
If your digestion is not good and you live in a high EMF environment and your health is compromised it might be better to not consume too much parasite-risky food ;). But I have so far not had any issues.... but this is nothing I recommend to others, as it sure can be risky.
Myself, I am willing to take the risk for the sake of science... >D
I really do not fear parasites at all. I just cannot... it would keep me in a prison like state and I do not like that. Then I would have to fear to eat wild herbs in the woods... wild berries... as they can have dangerous parasites too... etc etc. I cannot/I do not want to live without my beloved wildies.. I cannot live a sterile life... it would make me unhappy
If I do got any parasite issue I would just go to the doc and get a pill and that would take care of it I guess :) Like Tyler did :)
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hehe.. thanks Inger!
i was asking more because maybe some of the organs or intestines have toxins on it. i was not scared by parasites , but now I am! :P
i did a smoothie with liver, i-dont-know-what-was-that (something with a withe faty thing inside, tasty) and another thing that had like little little little "grains" (like white-yellow). I tried this alone and it wasnt bad. it wasnt good either.
but the smoothie was horrible! i mean i was able to drink a little bit of it, maybe 3 gulps, and then i gave to the cats... I had an after taste REALLY bitter on the back of the mouth. waaaaaagggggg!
the thing inside the intestines is really bitter, didn't liked it too.
i will see how i'm feeling on the next couple of hours... i hope this is not doing bad to me!
i ate a lot of flesh after the smoothie... x)
so, after all, are parasites capable of living inside of me, even if they are fish parasites?
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well.... some fish parasites cant live inside of you long, like anisakiasis that often lives in mackerel. You can see them. If I see some in a mackerel I just pick them away as good as i can and eat the fish raw anyways. You can get some short lived gut issues from them (I never had...) but after 2 weeks they die and can not reproduce. Roundworms etc. can live inside us too. But I think if your digestion works great they will not survive too easy in the stomach acid. I have eaten raw cod with i think round worms... at least it looked like that... and it seem to not like me as i never got any issues from it. You can google parasites in the fish where you live and fishes you eat and then look what they are like and what they do/ how dangerous they are. So far I have not gotten scared as all the ones I can get here from seafood are easily taken care of with a pill. I would not eat raw fish if I were in Africa or other foreign countries tho. They have different parasites..... You need to read up on it and your fears will vanish :)
The white creamy thing i think was the fish milk. It is nice tasting and mild and creamy for sure! The grainy thing could have been roe, no? Liver is easy, it looks like ours very close to the head but small of course. I guess the bitter tasting could have been the gall bladder. If you ditch the intestines you will not have that issue. That is what I do. I do not think it is dangerous to eat tho... it will just taste not so good. I do not like my fish smoothies either but I always hold my nose and rinse my moth after... so I do not care about the taste.
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I don't make fish smoothies, but I do use the internet to find fish anatomy charts so I learn what part is what. The gall bladder is bitter, and bitter may be good to eat, but I do best when I eat it alone to "savor" the bitter taste for a second. I love dissecting the fish innards, it makes me feel so familiar with the food I eat.
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thanks for the info.
i'm actually not scared about parasites. Aajonus V. took that fear away from me haha.
I don't feel the bitter of the fish organs like the bitter of chicory or dandelion for example. its kinda diferent. I don't want to swallow the fish bitter. with greens i have no problem, i even like them. but this fish thing is repulsive, i will never eat that.
thanks for the idea on searching images of the anatomy of fishes!! i will do that next time so i will now for sure what part is what =)
i will try to find now if the grainy thing is the roe x)
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I haven't made a fish head smoothie yet, though I have chewed up sardine heads, which are not bad if you can get all the scales off.
This may be somewhat gruesome to people outside of this forum.....
I've been thinking about whole animal smoothies as a way to absorb the maximum nutrition possible. I have 5 bunnies and a blentek. Two of the rabbits are bred and may give birth sometime in the next few weeks. Since there are limited number of hutches, I was thinking about making a smoothie with whole buck bunnies.
I also have a pregnant guinea pig ready to give birth anytime, I am going to skin, gut and blend, the cull males.
It may take some experimentation to find the perfect recipe, but if a bunny smooth taste as good as it sounds I may be onto something good. I will let everyone know how it turns out.
Please don't forget to make a video when you do your experiment.
Same is true for Inger.
Dear Inger,
After you advice, I also started eating mackerel/herring heads, but I eat them as they are (i.e. without making smoothy).
I also tried smoothie, and it tasted much better than what I imagined. But still I prefer eating heads as they are.
Inger, could you please experiment once of drinking your smoothie without gills and tell us if you feel any difference in health benefits without gills or not. I tried to eat gills raw, but they didn't taste good to me.