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Title: Preparing wild game and eating raw
Post by: marcuspaleo on May 20, 2015, 02:34:31 am
I live in Australia and ive tried vigilantly to obtain a healthy, naturally raised organic animal from a farm to slaughter humanely and consume in its entirety. Unfortunately due to the strict laws, it is near impossible to obtain. I know these laws well because ive contacted numerous state and federal departments. I basically have 2 legal options and 1 "grey" option:
1. Raise the animal myself. Kill it on my land. It stays on my land. Only myself or my immediate family can consume it.
2. Hunt wild game. Take carcass back to my land. Only I can consume.
3. Some farmers may sell me a live animal not knowing what I will do with it. I can bring to my rural property. Kill myself and consume

I have to go with 2 as I dont have a rural property. Unfortunately, ive never hunted nor slaughtered an animal. My plan is to go deer hunting. I want to eat much of the organs raw to help heal my poor health. Ive seen some vids on youtube on how to cut one up, which i can do, but i dont know how to prepare the intestines, stomach, gallbladder etc. Can anyone recommend how I go about doing this? a book perhaps? I just read "the diet of the mountain men" but that didnt disclose much detail. IS there anything i need to be concerned about? Ill aso be chasing wild goats, rabbits, turkeys etc
Title: Re: Preparing wild game and eating raw
Post by: kalo on May 20, 2015, 07:15:31 am
type " derek hunter paleo" on youtube

that is a video from sabertooth on this forum. THey were real helpful. I live in the US and can obtain animals organically. Can anyone just go hunt without tags in Australia?
Title: Re: Preparing wild game and eating raw
Post by: cherimoya_kid on May 20, 2015, 09:13:49 am
Have you tried seafoods, Marcus?
Title: Re: Preparing wild game and eating raw
Post by: marcuspaleo on May 20, 2015, 11:28:53 am
Have you tried seafoods, Marcus?

Hi Cherimoya, I have tried seafood. I just cant really eat it. Ive hated seafood since i was a kid. I could never eat it. The smell makes me want to throw up. I cant fathom eating large amounts of it let alone raw.

type " derek hunter paleo" on youtube

that is a video from sabertooth on this forum. THey were real helpful. I live in the US and can obtain animals organically. Can anyone just go hunt without tags in Australia?

Thats awesome! Thanks Kalo! Exactly what im looking for!

Im not sure about the hunting regulations. I think its a lot easier than trying to buy an animal. My plan is to meet a few hunters and tag along. Maybe even going bow hunting because I know getting a gun license is really hard. We had a mass shooting in Tasmania about 20 years and getting guns after that has been very difficult.


Title: Re: Preparing wild game and eating raw
Post by: marcuspaleo on May 20, 2015, 05:06:41 pm
It would also be really good to see a video of how the meat and organs are consumed.

Sabertooth, if you read this, perhaps you can make a video of one of your "stomach, blood, gland shakes" and the way you consume your kills.

Title: Re: Preparing wild game and eating raw
Post by: kalo on May 21, 2015, 12:40:08 am
 Hah word. And he does that too, but under "derek nance" hah we are like groupies.
Title: Re: Preparing wild game and eating raw
Post by: marcuspaleo on May 21, 2015, 10:51:17 am
Hah word. And he does that too, but under "derek nance" hah we are like groupies.

Cheers, just watching some of Derek Nance's videos. I remember seeing a story on him. Didnt realise he was "sabertooth" from this forum.
Title: Re: Preparing wild game and eating raw
Post by: marcuspaleo on May 21, 2015, 02:37:35 pm
Also, is there any risk of eating raw wild animals like goat, pig, rabbit, deer etc?
Title: Re: Preparing wild game and eating raw
Post by: RogueFarmer on May 21, 2015, 04:40:51 pm
Are camels still a problem in australia? I bet camel is really tasty.
Title: Re: Preparing wild game and eating raw
Post by: kalo on May 22, 2015, 06:15:45 am
Me either. Well, yea there is a risk. Honestly, I started with frozen grassfed beef from good sources and I am glad. Freezing kills the beef and anything in it. Jumping right at wild meat might be mentally tough, plus you gotta catch them suckers.
But we risk everytime we drive or run on a road. Just pick your battles  >D
Title: Re: Preparing wild game and eating raw
Post by: marcuspaleo on May 22, 2015, 01:05:19 pm
I found a place about 2 hours drive from me where I can go hunting with the property owner and kill a deer for $550. I dont know whether that is good value or not. I would enjoy hunting ordinarily, but im so damm tired, weak and sick that I just want to pay for the meat, eat it and heal myself. In fact, im only after the organs, blood etc. which in that case probably means $550 is ridiculously expensive.

I haven't told him about my health problems either. I did tell him ive never been hunting before and I sensed a degree of reluctance, so I figured if i told him I was sick, he would find it too burdensome and find an excuse. The fact is Im exhausted. Im so weak that I can barely bench press 40kg, and Im in constant pain and can barely sleep. Im not complaining at all, im simply concerned I dont have the faculties to successfully hunt a deer. I told him I can come up next week. Should be interesting....
Title: Re: Preparing wild game and eating raw
Post by: dariorpl on May 22, 2015, 01:11:27 pm
Man, those laws are ridiculous. And there are people in this forum who are still in denial about how much of a threat States (Governments) are to our health, let alone everything else in our lives.
Title: Re: Preparing wild game and eating raw
Post by: marcuspaleo on May 22, 2015, 01:52:12 pm
Man, those laws are ridiculous. And there are people in this forum who are still in denial about how much of a threat States (Governments) are to our health, let alone everything else in our lives.


Absolutely. I called up the state department that manages health and food safety, and they told me I couldn't go to a farm and select a healthy, naturally raised organic animal to slaughter humanely on their farm and consume in its entirety, because its potentially dangerous to my health and society. Can you believe that? Its so ridiculous it borders on insane. Doing that should be the foundation of nutrition within a society.  And if outlawing that due to health risks is not ridiculous enough, the same department allows processed foods, sugar, alcohol, fast food, etc to be advertised and flood our markets when its undeniable and a proven fact that they damage health and negatively affect society.  Goverment has become a place where money is turned into power. The tools running them are so dumb and/or corrupt.


Also, Sabertooth, if you read this, it looks like ill get my first whole animal in the next few weeks. Perhaps you can be in touch and help me through the process of cutting it up and consuming it.
Title: Re: Preparing wild game and eating raw
Post by: kalo on May 23, 2015, 07:23:12 pm
Hmm, I thought there was a lot of good quality beef there. All the lambs in the stores come from AU. Honestly, after butchering the animal and having all the organs and stuff, I still love the meat. Plus the blood and things are sorta difficult for me to just indulge in. You could order a sheep from a farm and have the butcher keep the organs bagged up.
Title: Re: Preparing wild game and eating raw
Post by: marcuspaleo on May 23, 2015, 09:48:30 pm
You could order a sheep from a farm and have the butcher keep the organs bagged up.

No I cant. Thats the point. There are only certain cuts of animals that are deemed suitable for human consumption within Australia. Some of the cuts I want are deemed unsuitable and are therefore illegal. There isn't a licensed butcher or abattoir in the country legally able to provide them to me. And even some of the more obscure cuts that I want that are legal, require specific licenses to be able to provide them. In addition, they have to process these obscure cuts in a certain way that satisfies the food safety department. Because of this cumbersome and expensive process, these legal but obscure cuts are extremely hard to get, and organic ones are basically impossible.

A farmer that wants to consume all these illegal and obscure parts must raise the animal, kill it on their property and provide it only to his or her immediate family. Even if it the farmer were my best friend or uncle, it would be illegal to invite me over for dinner to share in it. Of course, I couldn't give a shit about these ridiculous laws, but believe me: butchers, farmers or abattoirs all do. They are scared of the fines and repercussions.