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Title: Beneficial bacteria
Post by: Healthiswealth on January 12, 2017, 10:30:50 pm
Hello everybody happy new year!!

I have a question regarding beneficial bacteria in meat and storage of meat during the week. I've been putting mine in a plastic bag and freezing it but I was thinking about beneficial dying because they are being frozen. I'm guessing the beneficial bacteria dies because they are frozen right?

Thanks
Title: Re: Beneficial bacteria
Post by: TylerDurden on January 12, 2017, 11:00:14 pm
No, bacteria become dormant when frozen. They do  not get destroyed.
Title: Re: Beneficial bacteria
Post by: Healthiswealth on January 12, 2017, 11:55:03 pm
Oh ok cool. Thanks!
Title: Re: Beneficial bacteria
Post by: raw-al on January 13, 2017, 03:08:34 am
No, bacteria become dormant when frozen. They do  not get destroyed.
So no bacteria die? I always wondered about that. Does the meat degrade?
Title: Re: Beneficial bacteria
Post by: TylerDurden on January 13, 2017, 04:11:19 am
The ice-crystals that form after freezing apparently rupture the cell-membranes/cell-walls.This means that once the food starts being thawed, the nutrient-loss occurs  at a much faster rate.

Hmm, more info on the subject:-

http://www.ref-wiki.com/technical-information/155-food-refrigeration-and-freezing/32667-effects-of-freezing-on-micro-organisms-associated-with-meat-poultry-and-fish.html (http://www.ref-wiki.com/technical-information/155-food-refrigeration-and-freezing/32667-effects-of-freezing-on-micro-organisms-associated-with-meat-poultry-and-fish.html)



Why bacteria are more resistant to freezing than animal cells:-
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bacteria have a strong cell wall
- bacteria don’t have numerous internal organelles that can be damaged
- bacteria are unicellular organisms and, as such, are much better equipped to deal with extremes of temperature than, for instance, a weak differentiated specialized animal cell.
- many species of bacteria can form spores that are extremely resistant to temperature extremes
- bacteria have the advantage of huge colony numbers and fast cell division rates, so even if, say, 90% of all the cells die during a freeze-thaw cycle, the colony needs only a single survivor to re-establish itself once optimal conditions return.
Title: Re: Beneficial bacteria
Post by: raw-al on January 13, 2017, 09:40:53 am
Thanks for that.
Title: Re: Beneficial bacteria
Post by: goodsamaritan on January 13, 2017, 09:04:20 pm
There's this thing about what kind of germs are multiplying in your refrigerator as well.
I would not depend on those beneficial bacteria.
Better you really get fermented stuff to make a lot lot more good bacteria.
Title: Re: Beneficial bacteria
Post by: raw-al on January 14, 2017, 03:36:58 am
There's this thing about what kind of germs are multiplying in your refrigerator as well.
I would not depend on those beneficial bacteria.
Better you really get fermented stuff to make a lot lot more good bacteria.
I am making some high pork now.
Title: Re: Beneficial bacteria
Post by: sabertooth on January 14, 2017, 12:15:50 pm
The best method I have found has been to dedicate an entire fridge to open hang large pieces for dry aging.

I have a freezer unit that has a thermostat bypass so I can manually set the temperature, which I typically keep a couple degrees above freezing.