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Title: Curezone dude saying hi
Post by: the6step on May 06, 2017, 07:53:23 am
Hey guys, what's up.

I'm a 30 yr old male, and I'm based in New york city. For the past couple of years I have really cleaned up my diet to fight my nonsensical belly fat and lack of energy. I take a lot of supplements, green juice, water. Within the past year or so I've become enamored with curezone, and I'm doing enemas, iodine, trace minerals, I'm off gluten, doing kefir, doing sulfur, vitamin c (skipping over vitamin d), filtered water (no fluoride). I sort of nailed down that I have liver problems due to 8 years on a vegetarian diet with no fat, and I have the symptoms to match (pain in my back on that side), so I've been doing non stop chanca piedra & malic acid for the last week and a half or so, gearing up for a liver flush.

I was researching the ideal diet for a liver flush, and really couldn't find a consensus, but both sides (meat eaters, vegans) seemed wrong and I just wasn't satisfied no matter how many times people said that there isn't a right answer.

So I did some Google searching on eggs to see if I could eat them (since I've been abstaining from protein and fat for the buildup to the liver cleanse) and I ran across this crazy egg liver flush, which I'd never seen given months and months of research. It used raw egg yolk, which was like whoa I've really went down the rabbit hole now... raw eggs?

Long story short, I landed up here. Been pouring through all the forum posts now, trying to get a feel for things. I want to bullet out some information, some questions:

1. I still have a great amount of fatigue, energy, circles under my eyes, and a bunch of other things. My gut feeling is the liver is the issue, so the short term goal is to get my liver flushed. I'm debating just up and trying the egg liver flush tomorrow.

2. I went out and had some raw sushi today but I guess sushi isn't really cared for on this forum, and neither is rice apparently.

3. I'm curious the stance on kefir. I know a lot of people have attributed it to better health, bacteria, the idea that the kefir eats all the casein, lactose & most of the sugar. I have a ton of milk & kefir grains in my fridge and had been gorging on it but I think they said that drinking kefir when you have digestion issues only makes it worse and that you have to wait until you get better. I'm still wondering if I should just completely forget kefir though.

4. I have a relationship with a farm thankfully that I get high quality untouched foods. I had mostly been getting raw milk from them, but I just put in an order for liver, kidney, heart, some fish, duck / chicken eggs and some bone marrow. I'm too scared to eat tongue, brain or thymus they had in stock for now.

5. I'm wondering if I should stop ALL of the supplements that I have. I do salt, potassium, magnesium, iodine (and sski), boron, sulfur, selenium, zinc (with a bit of copper), garlic, malic acid, I have tons of healthforce powders and pills containing stuff too long to list, vitamin c, glutamine, digestive enzymes, and I'm currently doing some liver cleanse and colon cleanse supplements. Can I continue to do some of these? They can't all be bad right?

6. I bought a bunch of bones from my farm with a small amount of meat on them. I was initially going to make bone broth with them, but now looking around here that seems like the wrong move? I heard some people just saying to leave the bones in the water... I don't know if I'm ready for that. Would I get benefit from the bone broth or should I just attempt to do raw bone broth?

7. Any specific things I can do for my liver, besides the egg cleanse?

8. What is all your takes on zappers?

9. I just found from here that you should just sleep on the floor? Anyone doing that find benefits from doing that?

10. I really for the most part don't like eating raw vegetables. Do I have to do this, or should I just avoid vegetables and stick to juicing or just drop vegetables altogether?
Title: Re: Curezone dude saying hi
Post by: sabertooth on May 06, 2017, 08:59:24 am
1. I still have a great amount of fatigue, energy, circles under my eyes, and a bunch of other things. My gut feeling is the liver is the issue, so the short term goal is to get my liver flushed. I'm debating just up and trying the egg liver flush tomorrow.

#Liver congestion and or toxicity could be an issue, but I would advise against doing flushes, especially before you have identified and eliminated any possible problem foods (and or) supplements.

2. I went out and had some raw sushi today but I guess sushi isn't really cared for on this forum, and neither is rice apparently.

#I would recomend sashimi, the fish without the rice. I go for fatty cuts of wild caught fish
Try to avoid farmed fish.

3. I'm curious the stance on kefir. I know a lot of people have attributed it to better health, bacteria, the idea that the kefir eats all the casein, lactose & most of the sugar. I have a ton of milk & kefir grains in my fridge and had been gorging on it but I think they said that drinking kefir when you have digestion issues only makes it worse and that you have to wait until you get better. I'm still wondering if I should just completely forget kefir though.

#I would recomend going off dairy entirely until your liver symptoms have been eliminated. When I had liver congestion dairy always made it much worse, and many people with compromised digestive enzymes cant tolerate it very well,(with or without  kefir)

4. I have a relationship with a farm thankfully that I get high quality untouched foods. I had mostly been getting raw milk from them, but I just put in an order for liver, kidney, heart, some fish, duck / chicken eggs and some bone marrow. I'm too scared to eat tongue, brain or thymus they had in stock for now.

#Organ meats are great for nurishing, healing and cleansing, so long as the source is good you should worry about eating any part of an animal.

5. I'm wondering if I should stop ALL of the supplements that I have. I do salt, potassium, magnesium, iodine (and sski), boron, sulfur, selenium, zinc (with a bit of copper), garlic, malic acid, I have tons of healthforce powders and pills containing stuff too long to list, vitamin c, glutamine, digestive enzymes, and I'm currently doing some liver cleanse and colon cleanse supplements. Can I continue to do some of these? They can't all be bad right?

# I would recommend eliminating all supplements and cleansing protocol. The Raw paleo diet is cleansing and nourishing in and of itself, and artificial supplements used along with artificial cleansing protocols, can have negative effects

6. I bought a bunch of bones from my farm with a small amount of meat on them. I was initially going to make bone broth with them, but now looking around here that seems like the wrong move? I heard some people just saying to leave the bones in the water... I don't know if I'm ready for that. Would I get benefit from the bone broth or should I just attempt to do raw bone broth?

# Try to the marrow filled shanks, and eat as much raw marrow as you like.

7. Any specific things I can do for my liver, besides the egg cleanse?

#Eliminating dairy and the supplements would be the first place to start. Raw eggs are good for cleansing, but I think its better to simply include them into the diet instead of trying to use them as a flush. Lemon water with two eggs was always a favorite cleansing drink of mine.

8. What is all your takes on zappers?
Idk... not paleo

9. I just found from here that you should just sleep on the floor? Anyone doing that find benefits from doing that?

#Some believe grounding is important, I dont sleep on the floor but I do have a magnetic bed cover

10. I really for the most part don't like eating raw vegetables. Do I have to do this, or should I just avoid vegetables and stick to juicing or just drop vegetables altogether?
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#I typically avoid most vegetables, and recommend juicing only in moderation.... but will eat some salad greens with herbs. I also eat low glycemic fruits like tomato, avocado, and coconut
Title: Re: Curezone dude saying hi
Post by: TylerDurden on May 07, 2017, 06:04:06 pm
SB is  correct on all points, imo. Just wanted to say one thing:- the whole  concept behind RVAF diets is that bacteria are essential for health, so "zappers" etc. are definitely anti-raw in concept. There are many RVAFers who go in for eating aged, raw meats,for example.
Title: Re: Curezone dude saying hi
Post by: Susadele on June 21, 2018, 01:42:24 am

9. I just found from here that you should just sleep on the floor? Anyone doing that find benefits from doing that?

#Some believe grounding is important, I dont sleep on the floor but I do have a magnetic bed cover


What do you mean with magnetic bed cover? What is it good for?