Paleo Diet: Raw Paleo Diet and Lifestyle Forum
Raw Paleo Diet to Suit You => Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach => Topic started by: Qondrar_The_Redeemer on June 18, 2018, 10:42:27 pm
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I was wondering what everyone here thinks would be the best animals for nutrition in eggs, dairy, muscle, organs, fat... and taste in eggs, dairy, muscle, organs and fat. I would certainly be interested in hearing about different wild game alongside domesticated animals, and some more exotic animals, for example. I've seen meat from different animals such as your standard beef, sheep, pork and poultry, along with deer, elk, bear, wild boar, wolf, duck, crocodile, camel, shark, swordfish, snake etc... Would be interested in hearing how nutritious they may be, and how they taste, assuming you've tried them yourselves.
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Judging from other RVAFers' reports, eggs from (non-inbred) chickens which have been raised on mostly carnivorous diets akin to their wild jungle fowl ancestors, tend to taste the best and are more nutritious.
My problem is that I can get hold raw wild game easily except from May-September(other than raw wildcaught seafood), but I am unable to get hold of most of the raw organ-meats, except occasionally. Getting a hunter's licence is way too expensive, and even just killing an animal costs a hefty bit extra. I can get hold of a variety of raw organ meats from standard domesticated animals like pigs/cows, but, admittedly, the quality is a lot "less worse" than in the rest of Europe as Austria has higher standards than the other intensively-farmed countries.
In the UK, I used to get hold of raw wild hares in vacuum-packed form., without the intestines. I would get a pint of raw blood that was the most invigorating substance I had ever consumed, along with raw meat that was itself also drenched with raw blood for better taste. I would also get the tiny organs such as raw heart, raw liver etc. I found raw swordfish, raw oysters, raw crabs, raw lobster, and raw mussels to be the best raw seafood.Just take care to leach out all the saltwater from the mussels first, beforehand. Re muscle-meat:- I highly recommend raw wild boar and raw wild moufflon.
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Judging from other RVAFers' reports, eggs from (non-inbred) chickens which have been raised on mostly carnivorous diets akin to their wild jungle fowl ancestors, tend to taste the best and are more nutritious.
My problem is that I can get hold raw wild game easily except from May-September(other than raw wildcaught seafood), but I am unable to get hold of most of the raw organ-meats, except occasionally. Getting a hunter's licence is way too expensive, and even just killing an animal costs a hefty bit extra. I can get hold of a variety of raw organ meats from standard domesticated animals like pigs/cows, but, admittedly, the quality is a lot "less worse" than in the rest of Europe as Austria has higher standards than the other intensively-farmed countries.
In the UK, I used to get hold of raw wild hares in vacuum-packed form., without the intestines. I would get a pint of raw blood that was the most invigorating substance I had ever consumed, along with raw meat that was itself also drenched with raw blood for better taste. I would also get the tiny organs such as raw heart, raw liver etc. I found raw swordfish, raw oysters, raw crabs, raw lobster, and raw mussels to be the best raw seafood.Just take care to leach out all the saltwater from the mussels first, beforehand. Re muscle-meat:- I highly recommend raw wild boar and raw wild moufflon.
Hmm, yes. What would be your opinion on something like an ostrich egg, and from other wild game?
Thanks for the suggestion regarding wild boar and wild moufflon, I can get both of those where I am currently. Also, regarding the wild hare blood, how would you say it tasted compared to blood from domesticated animals (grass-fed and then grain-fed?)?
And what would be your thoughts on tiny lizards and insects? Surely those are legal to kill.
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Hmm, yes. What would be your opinion on something like an ostrich egg, and from other wild game?
Thanks for the suggestion regarding wild boar and wild moufflon, I can get both of those where I am currently. Also, regarding the wild hare blood, how would you say it tasted compared to blood from domesticated animals (grass-fed and then grain-fed?)?
And what would be your thoughts on tiny lizards and insects? Surely those are legal to kill.
Complicated. I have been considering buying a Livin Farms product that effortlessly breeds and rebreeds mealworms/insects from a type of beetle. Yet, when I first experimented with rawpalaeo-aging, I did not mind(I was desperate at the time) with eating raw grassfed ox tongue, laced with fly-eggs all over, but I could not eat the stuff once the eggs turned into larvae/mealworms, due to disgust.Maybe, with proper nutrition and a cure for my silly hysteria re insects - after all, in another later experiment, my larvae had been given woodchips to feed upon first, which no doubt made things worse. I did another experiment with cooked grasshoppers, and, while they tasted of nothing(ie bland(, and they did not evoke a pysychological distaste.
The raw wild hare blood tastes truly awesome - it's impossible to describe the almost-religious-like-experience/drug-like high until you've had it yourself in sufficient amounts - whereas the raw blood I got from raw 100% grassfed ox, or other sources, had no such effect whatsoever, by comparison - raw blood from grainfed sources tastes even fouler than that. Make sure, if you get raw wild game, to get it vacuum-packed or in a whole carcass freshly killed, or you will never get that same kind of experience. it is a truly powerful feeling, really invigorating,
Raw eggs? I once ate a raw ostrich egg from the 1st Wholefoods(aka "wholepaycheck") in the UK. It was an unpleasant gimmick, the raw ostrich egg tasted awfully bland and obviously came from an ostrich fed on a 100% grain-filled diet in intensively-farmed conditions. Do what some of our more learned/more driven members do, if you can. such as Iguana/Sabertooth/Eveheart etc.etc., and try to drive to the farm and ascertain what nutrition any domesticated(formerly wild) animals of theirs actually get.The best would be, if you had your own backyard/farm, and had some chickens etc. of your own to raise your eggs.
Lastly, when it comes to raw eggs from supermarkets, I have noticed that the raw quail eggs do taste way better than the raw chicken eggs. I suspect better nutrition in the former as a result, but feel free to make your own experimentations. Taste, ONCE you have been 90-100% RPD-Instincto for a year or more, is the key to determining the real quality of the raw food.
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Complicated. I have been considering buying a Livin Farms product that effortlessly breeds and rebreeds mealworms/insects from a type of beetle. Yet, when I first experimented with rawpalaeo-aging, I did not mind(I was desperate at the time) with eating raw grassfed ox tongue, laced with fly-eggs all over, but I could not eat the stuff once the eggs turned into larvae/mealworms, due to disgust.Maybe, with proper nutrition and a cure for my silly hysteria re insects - after all, in another later experiment, my larvae had been given woodchips to feed upon first, which no doubt made things worse. I did another experiment with cooked grasshoppers, and, while they tasted of nothing(ie bland(, and they did not evoke a pysychological distaste.
The raw wild hare blood tastes truly awesome - it's impossible to describe the almost-religious-like-experience/drug-like high until you've had it yourself in sufficient amounts - whereas the raw blood I got from raw 100% grassfed ox, or other sources, had no such effect whatsoever, by comparison - raw blood from grainfed sources tastes even fouler than that. Make sure, if you get raw wild game, to get it vacuum-packed or in a whole carcass freshly killed, or you will never get that same kind of experience. it is a truly powerful feeling, really invigorating,
Raw eggs? I once ate a raw ostrich egg from the 1st Wholefoods(aka "wholepaycheck") in the UK. It was an unpleasant gimmick, the raw ostrich egg tasted awfully bland and obviously came from an ostrich fed on a 100% grain-filled diet in intensively-farmed conditions. Do what some of our more learned/more driven members do, if you can. such as Iguana/Sabertooth/Eveheart etc.etc., and try to drive to the farm and ascertain what nutrition any domesticated(formerly wild) animals of theirs actually get.The best would be, if you had your own backyard/farm, and had some chickens etc. of your own to raise your eggs.
Lastly, when it comes to raw eggs from supermarkets, I have noticed that the raw quail eggs do taste way better than the raw chicken eggs. I suspect better nutrition in the former as a result, but feel free to make your own experimentations. Taste, ONCE you have been 90-100% RPD-Instincto for a year or more, is the key to determining the real quality of the raw food.
I already use taste, smell and how it looks to determine the quality of the meat I buy. I wouldn't say it takes a year to notice the difference, I noticed the difference immediately after I switched from grain-fed to grass-fed/organic/pastured/wild game etc.., and I notice a difference even between different animals from the same farm, or from different parts of the same animal. Obviously soil quality and other factors will determine what the animal will taste like and how nutritious it will be. I've personally had some great chicken eggs in the past, while also getting foul tasting ones from supposedly high quality sources. I would assume anything from truly wild animals would taste even better.
Interesting about the wild hare blood. I've had some truly great meat/blood from the farm I currently visit and wild game (I've only gotten muscle from wild game in the past) that tasted like candy, but perhaps I could find something that would be similar to your experience with wild hare blood.