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Title: Sugar Ray Robinson drank raw blood
Post by: wodgina on June 26, 2009, 02:24:11 pm

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0HST/is_2_7/ai_n12937398/ (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0HST/is_2_7/ai_n12937398/)

 CHAPTER 14: THE ST. VALENTINE'S DAY MASSACRE

Another person licking his chops for Sugar to return was Jake LaMotta. Now that the way was cleared for them to face each other for the sixth time, the Bull was practically pawing the turf, eager to charge across the ring and punish the man who had beaten him four out of five times....

Reaching the top of his craft had not been easy, and Sugar had used all sorts of tactics and strategies to keep his opponents off balance. Sometimes he psyched them out--as he may have with LaMotta at a luncheon a few days before their fight. Sitting near the Bull, Sugar asked the waiter if he could have a large glass of beef blood. Both the waiter and LaMotta were puzzled by the request. Sugar stressed his order, clarifying that he did not want gravy, but actual beef blood, extracted "before the meat is cooked," he said. The waiter obeyed and returned with a glassful of blood. Sugar downed it in one long gulp. Wiping his mouth, he explained to a bug-eyed LaMotta that he had been drinking it for years on the advice of Chappie Blackburn, Louis's trainer. It was the equivalent of a stare-down at the weigh-in. He told the Bull that it was his secret weapon and gave him the strength to overcome bigger and stronger opponents. LaMotta told Sugar that he was out of his mind. Sugar would have likewise questioned LaMotta's sanity when he drank two or three shots of brandy before their fight. LaMotta said he did this to give him a sense of false courage to hide his real fear. He knew he wasn't in good enough shape to fight Sugar. One fighter was half drunk on brandy and the other was juiced up on beef blood. If the bettors had known, there would be no guessing where their money would have gone.
Title: Re: Sugar Ray Robinson drank raw blood
Post by: goodsamaritan on June 26, 2009, 03:05:37 pm
I drink raw blood myself, but no way will I be able to beat Manny Pacquiao!  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: Sugar Ray Robinson drank raw blood
Post by: TylerDurden on June 26, 2009, 05:57:42 pm
That is a brilliant article. I'm posting this to the rawpaleodiet yahoo group. Hope you don't mind.
Title: Re: Sugar Ray Robinson drank raw blood
Post by: wodgina on June 27, 2009, 10:24:50 am
That is a brilliant article. I'm posting this to the rawpaleodiet yahoo group. Hope you don't mind.

No probs. Do you think it was a psyche out? He did seem to know what he was doing and many bodybuilders were drinking raw blood around that time not to forget as well as a whole race of people (Masai)

He is noted as being the best pound for pound boxer ever (all though this phrase is thrown around a lot) by many.

One thing I've noticed with boxer's is the lateral growth of the cheek bones. This shows these guys have extremely high testosterone. Manny is a prime example of this as well as many other sportsman such a Lance Armstrong.

(http://nykotynethefuture.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/mannypacquiao.jpg)

 A lot of these boxer's end up wrecks after their careers are over. A paleo warrior without anything hunt or fight.
Title: Re: Sugar Ray Robinson drank raw blood
Post by: goodsamaritan on June 27, 2009, 01:15:54 pm
How does one achieve extremely high testosterone?
Title: Re: Sugar Ray Robinson drank raw blood
Post by: TylerDurden on June 27, 2009, 04:30:35 pm
Genetics and diet. For example, if you're a male born with an extra y chromosome(ie "xyy"), you will be, on average, slightly lower in IQ, but have much higher testosterone-levels, being prone to anger etc.
Title: Re: Sugar Ray Robinson drank raw blood
Post by: Josh on June 28, 2009, 12:16:32 am
Might seem left field, but I think various kinds of self development work can help with this as well. Once start thinking of yourself in a certain way and acting in a certain way, and also freeing traumas from the body/mind that can hold one back.

It's not good to have low T, but I don't think it follows that more is better. You see people on health forums trying all sorts of things to boost their T and I went through a phase years ago, but hormones are complex and need to be balanced. It doesn't make you more of a man if you have very high levels...as long as one is thinking and acting how one wants to then it's not the be all and end all.
Title: Re: Sugar Ray Robinson drank raw blood
Post by: habit on June 28, 2009, 06:59:17 pm
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One thing I've noticed with boxer's is the lateral growth of the cheek bones. This shows these guys have extremely high testosterone.

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if you're a male born with an extra y chromosome(ie "xyy"), you will be, on average, slightly lower in IQ, but have much higher testosterone-levels, being prone to anger etc.

Do you have the source for this information?
Title: Re: Sugar Ray Robinson drank raw blood
Post by: cherimoya_kid on June 28, 2009, 10:38:30 pm
Do you have the source for this information?

Here's a link to the wiki:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XYY (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XYY)

It says that it doesn't result in higher-than-average testosterone, but wikipedia is not known for perfect accuracy. 
Title: Re: Sugar Ray Robinson drank raw blood
Post by: TylerDurden on June 29, 2009, 05:25:23 pm
It seems that some studies claim that XYY males have the same testosterone levels as normal-chromosomed men while other studies dipsute this claiming that xyy men have slightly higher levels of testosterone. Given that there is a general agreement that xyy men are more aggressive, it seems unlikely that they have the same testosterone levels as xy men.