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Title: YouTube Censorship Against Raw Meat
Post by: smokeyquartz on January 10, 2021, 01:16:02 am
I was getting into watching youtube videos from Asra Conlu, a female raw meat eater from the Phillipines. 

Today I go to look at her channel and watch more of her videos.  All of the sudden it no longer exists.  There are only videos of other youtubers bashing her for her diet.  Her channel is gone!  See here: https://www.youtube.com/c/AsraConlu 
It gives a 404 error.

I'm going to see if maybe she switched to another forum that's not as affected by censorship.  Lots of youtubers are being shut down, videos taken down, for presenting facts in opposition to the agreed-upon story for the masses. 


Title: Re: YouTube Censorship Against Raw Meat
Post by: dariorpl on January 10, 2021, 05:35:19 am
Are you surprised?

I'm surprised it took them this long to start censoring people promoting real health.
Title: Re: YouTube Censorship Against Raw Meat
Post by: TnMann on January 10, 2021, 05:50:12 am
The exact same thing happened to me yesterday...

I couldn't find Asra on youtube anymore and so I found a way to link to her videos directly via another site and they all didn't exist.

I'm unsure if she closed her own channel or if this is indeed censorship but I'd lean toward the latter.
Title: Re: YouTube Censorship Against Raw Meat
Post by: smokeyquartz on January 10, 2021, 10:57:43 pm
@dariorpl  I'm not surprised, I'm angry. 

@TnMann  I guess it's possible she closed down her channel, but she's such a nice person I'm sure she would have made some final video saying "Hey everyone, Just wanted to let you know I'm moving on in my life and will not be making anymore videos but I will leave these up here for anyone wanting to learn from it."  I don't think she would have deleted everything with no notice to anyone.  I recall from one of her videos that her husband is a doctor in the Phillipines.  He was also doing the carnivore diet for a while.  I think the medical-techno establishment got to them both and shut her down.  Probably threatened them both with who knows what. 
Title: Re: YouTube Censorship Against Raw Meat
Post by: smokeyquartz on January 10, 2021, 11:19:48 pm
Well, if we see Derek and Inger's channels are suddenly down, then we know for certain who did it.
Title: Re: YouTube Censorship Against Raw Meat
Post by: goodsamaritan on January 11, 2021, 07:30:21 am
Best we start diversifying posting and viewing of videos:

https://odysee.com/

https://www.bitchute.com/

https://rumble.com/

https://www.brighteon.com/

Post more alternatives

https://tv.gab.com/
Title: Re: YouTube Censorship Against Raw Meat
Post by: smokeyquartz on January 12, 2021, 08:50:36 am
I just wanted to add to this thread that in the US, the major alternative to instagram was shut down today.  It was called Parler.  They used Amazon cloud for their data service, and Amazon has taken that away from them so they cannot even function. 

The website doesn't work (www.parler.com).  It was a platform specifically for conservatives, because their concerns over vaccines and praise of the president was always censored on the main social media.  It is very clear only ONE narrative will be allowed.  No one else is allowed to be heard.

So, shutting down free speech in the USA. This country is not at all what the patriots fought for.  Their corpses are crying tears in the grave...
Title: Re: YouTube Censorship Against Raw Meat
Post by: TnMann on January 12, 2021, 10:20:47 am
I heard about the Parler shut down as well.  The present increasingly seems like some sort of trial for many of us.

“I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.”
John 16:33
Title: Re: YouTube Censorship Against Raw Meat
Post by: Dingeman on January 13, 2021, 07:39:52 pm
It is important that we do not lump ourselves together with the whole MAGA/right wing extremist crowd. It would make us an unnecessary target for censorship.
Title: Re: YouTube Censorship Against Raw Meat
Post by: goodsamaritan on January 14, 2021, 06:30:31 am
I'm not American.
The server we host on is not American.

Wow Respect.
BRIGHTEON.
https://www.brighteon.com/ad79215b-0ee8-40b8-bc70-e88f8a5ec6a2
Title: Re: YouTube Censorship Against Raw Meat
Post by: TnMann on January 14, 2021, 06:56:05 am
It is important that we do not lump ourselves together with the whole MAGA/right wing extremist crowd. It would make us an unnecessary target for censorship.

I strongly agree. It seems the right wing is becoming an outlet for frustration at the blatant infringement on human rights going on these days. Ideologically the right is attractive because they tell the truth... but I wouldn't rely on any politicians or representatives doing anything to stop the evil.

This is the time that we need to do things ourselves as the common people. Reestablish the local economies (less money siphoned out to national business/gov.), make localized networks for communication/business, increase local gatherings for assembly and unity, etc. A localized community has no need for a national government to ruthlessly tax them nor vaxx them. Just take the Amish for example.
Title: Re: YouTube Censorship Against Raw Meat
Post by: dariorpl on January 14, 2021, 07:15:39 am
It is important that we do not lump ourselves together with the whole MAGA/right wing extremist crowd. It would make us an unnecessary target for censorship.

Well, I've been a heavy Trump critic since I first learned who he was back in 2012. I'm certainly not part of the fake right wing MAGA crowd. To call MAGA right wing extremism is highly deceptive. The MAGA crowd is simply national socialism, which is a brand of socialism and very much a part of the radical left. Meanwhile the Harris crowd (Biden will be irrelevant) is simply communism, which is another brand of socialism and therefore also part of the radical left.

As a bonus, I don't worry about youtube/twitter/facebook blocking people they don't want on their platforms. What's worrying is when the State takes on that role, but far as private companies doing it, all you have to do is refuse to use their services.

I do like to find out who the big companies are blocking though, because I wanna find out who they are and why they've been blocked.

EDIT: It would be worrying however, if ISPs started blocking people too, based on ideology. While they are private companies, they often operate with state-granted oligopolies that forbid or heavily restrict anyone else from competing. It's true that Google / Facebook / Twitter have ever increasing alliances with ISPs that grant them benefits at the expense of their competitors. But thus far, the ISPs aren't going as far in terms of censorship, at least, not that I know of.
Title: Re: YouTube Censorship Against Raw Meat
Post by: smokeyquartz on January 14, 2021, 07:39:39 pm
@Dingeman When someone posts these sweeping generalizations, please know that not everyone agrees with what YOU say.  And no one person here should be so audacious to try to dictate their beliefs to everyone else to try to suppress disagreement - YOU'RE the one being extreme here.  Any Trump supporter is totally aware and experienced with the censorship and hate against us (shown here) and we know we're never allowed to share our beliefs.  I didn't come on here to post about Trump and never intended to because that's not what this forum is about.  But YOU brought it up.  YOU are now trying to censor people here.  Only MODERATORS can tell us what to say and what not to say, and I don't think you are one.   

My beliefs are more libertarian, and I'm the only one who has consistent logic in their beliefs when I speak to people on the left.  I want total control over my own body.  Republicans want to use me as a baby incubator, and Democrats want to use me for their medical experimentation.  My body belongs to ME.   

I@TnMann  I've tried talking to other like-minded people about forming intentional communities where we could practice our beliefs in peace, like the Amish as you said.  I really want to be part of a community of like-minded people but the people I've talked to have basically given up. 
Title: Re: YouTube Censorship Against Raw Meat
Post by: Dingeman on January 15, 2021, 06:28:01 pm
@Dingeman When someone posts these sweeping generalizations, please know that not everyone agrees with what YOU say.  And no one person here should be so audacious to try to dictate their beliefs to everyone else to try to suppress disagreement - YOU'RE the one being extreme here.  Any Trump supporter is totally aware and experienced with the censorship and hate against us (shown here) and we know we're never allowed to share our beliefs.  I didn't come on here to post about Trump and never intended to because that's not what this forum is about.  But YOU brought it up.  YOU are now trying to censor people here.  Only MODERATORS can tell us what to say and what not to say, and I don't think you are one.   

My beliefs are more libertarian, and I'm the only one who has consistent logic in their beliefs when I speak to people on the left.  I want total control over my own body.  Republicans want to use me as a baby incubator, and Democrats want to use me for their medical experimentation.  My body belongs to ME.   


Never said you couldn't talk about it. Don't strawman me. I am just saying that if we start connecting raw meat to the growing right-wing censorship problems, we can eventually expect actual censorship. It is in our best interests, as raw meat eaters, to ignore our connection to certain political discourses, both left-wing and right-wing.
Title: Re: YouTube Censorship Against Raw Meat
Post by: Dingeman on January 15, 2021, 06:29:44 pm
Well, I've been a heavy Trump critic since I first learned who he was back in 2012. I'm certainly not part of the fake right wing MAGA crowd. To call MAGA right wing extremism is highly deceptive. The MAGA crowd is simply national socialism, which is a brand of socialism and very much a part of the radical left. Meanwhile the Harris crowd (Biden will be irrelevant) is simply communism, which is another brand of socialism and therefore also part of the radical left.


What we call it doesn't matter. I mean the right wing groups active right now that are becoming a target of censorship.
Title: Re: YouTube Censorship Against Raw Meat
Post by: dair on January 15, 2021, 06:32:02 pm
The left can be so predictable and rigid in it's way, they have their own uniform (people dress the same in many groups), here in Germany it is often taboo to a say that you enjoy meat in the left scene. Many are anti wilderness in many ways (not consciously), they say the earth could support so much more people. Hunting is evil says many. And, the right is scary, wanting to control humans and planet with tech and pharma.
Actually, I am quite sure that one is not possible without the other, they need each other.
We need to find a different way.
Title: Re: YouTube Censorship Against Raw Meat
Post by: dariorpl on January 15, 2021, 07:15:21 pm
The left can be so predictable and rigid in it's way, they have their own uniform (people dress the same in many groups), here in Germany it is often taboo to a say that you enjoy meat in the left scene. Many are anti wilderness in many ways (not consciously), they say the earth could support so much more people. Hunting is evil says many. And, the right is scary, wanting to control humans and planet with tech and pharma.
Actually, I am quite sure that one is not possible without the other, they need each other.
We need to find a different way.

There is another way. Start properly identifying and denouncing the radical left as the most evil form of politics there is. You have an advantage in Germany, in that most people would do anything to not be associated with the nazis. Start correctly pointing out that the nazis were a radical left wing party. It shouldn't be too hard. It's in the name. Point out how Hitler was a vegetarian, and how many of his policies aren't that far off from what is being proposed today by the radical left. Simply swapping national socialism for international socialism doesn't change the fact that it's still socialism.

Point out how Germany became prosperous and happy after WWII because it embraced a mostly free market policy for several decades, and how that's the only way to progress further, if that's what "progressives" claim they want.

If you wanna take it one step further still, you can mention how the nazis' plans for a united europe with Germany at the top were realized under the socialist european union.
Title: Re: YouTube Censorship Against Raw Meat
Post by: dair on January 15, 2021, 08:16:23 pm
ok, thanks will share this with the germans
By the way, Merkel's family has some nazi connections I've read somewhere. And who are ennemies of the jews? Some arab states.
I am not of fan of Israel, for from it. And I dont like their religion (same with all other big religions). But I am not an anti-jew either, everyone has the right to exist. I was once in a small hidden "anti-faschist" underground cafe, there was a huge picture/caricature of jew with big nose etc painted on the wall.
Title: Re: YouTube Censorship Against Raw Meat
Post by: smokeyquartz on January 16, 2021, 06:56:32 am
@dair
"And, the right is scary, wanting to control humans and planet with tech and pharma."

This issue is the most important to me of all - that no one else should have control over my body or my life.  I see the "push" that the media and prominent figures are doing "for the benefit of others."  Very Machiavellian.  But I thought this was the left doing the pushing of controlling us all; they are the ones pushing forced vaccines and medical tyranny according to what I've read.  The UN and others as well.  If you have some information to show that it is the right, please show me.  I need to read it.  I am open minded and I do want to know the truth.  Whoever is against my freedom over my own body is my enemy.
Title: Re: YouTube Censorship Against Raw Meat
Post by: dair on January 23, 2021, 10:52:14 pm
I just talk from experience.  In Europe (France, Germany, Sweden for instance), those who were pro vaccine (and I mean, before the whole covid thing), for kids for instance, were much more often rightwing.
There is a fear of germs, order, and a need for sterilised surroundings that is very right wing.
The rewilding movement in Europe talks about "tidiness disorder", as one of the main reason for declining populations of insects, wildlife, birds and the whole food chain.
There is a saying (translated my self from my own language): "If a chaotic/untidy desk is a sign for chaotic/untidy mind, what does is an empty desk imply?
I am really scared of the right: they want more tech all the time, the latest hitech (totally unnecessary). All the satellite pollution up there (no joke), there is so much crap in the sky, invisible to us, but it's really becoming a hazard. That's the right for me; you dont see their garbage, but it's even more disturbing in a way.
Title: Re: YouTube Censorship Against Raw Meat
Post by: dair on January 23, 2021, 10:58:09 pm
Just need to clarify concerning the words "tidiness disorder", an expression used in the rewilding movement in the UK. It's this need of neatness, lawns, cutting down trees, bushes, semi wild area that dont look totally manicured. Buts it's in these "untidy" areas that insects, birds etc thrive in, and of course they are a source of food for bigger animals...
And the hedgehog is now severrly threatened in Europe, it really needs these kinds of habitat. And it like places where it can hide, but if you end with just a lawn, there nowhere this animal can go to, to feel at home and to find food/shelter.
Title: Re: YouTube Censorship Against Raw Meat
Post by: dair on January 24, 2021, 05:38:53 pm
Space trash, space junk, it's really ugly:
https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/what-is-space-junk-and-why-is-it-a-problem.html
Title: Re: YouTube Censorship Against Raw Meat
Post by: dair on January 24, 2021, 06:04:22 pm
But then again, this does not mean that the left is better. I've been travelling in India quite a few times, a place that is a magnet for many leftists, and these spiritual tourists are so predictable and zombie-like, with their "chai-chillum-chapati" love/addiction. They are against authority, but somehow they fall SO easily for gurus telling them how to live, think and to chant extremely silly stuff they dont understand (in sanskrit).
India is a huge land with many states and a variety of lifestyle and diets, on the coast they love fish etc, and in Goa, porc is popular, and in many places meat is enjoyed even among hindus.
But. There is a strong vegetarian culture in India, where many granola crunching hippies got inspired. Many hindus will not even eat eggs, but all sort very low quality dairy is seen as healing for body and soul. I have never seen so bad teeth in all my travels (and I've been to quite a few continents) as among the vegetarians hindus/Indians, and also among long time European/Western travellers adopting their lifestyle, gurus and "chai-chillum-chapati" habits. These people have the most rotten teeth I have ever seen.
(True, in some places in south east asia I also saw some very bad teeth, but that was more due to pollution, plus lots of antibiotics and toxins in food and environment.)
Many people in the left idealises India, and sees it at the motherland, return there year after year going to ashrams, and smoking a lot. I was never a smoker, and had always to say no to their offering of sharing their stuff, and they looked at me as I was a real looser. (except that THEY had lost many of their teeth). One person asked once in all seriousness "if you dont smoke, why do you come to India?".
Well, smoking gives them the munchies, and this is what smokers eat: sweet stuff, pancakes, children's food, coockies, cakes, chai, ice-cream, french fries, deep fried street snacks: very cheap. It's taboo as a smoking traveller to put a lot of money on high quality food, instead, the money goes ...up in smoke.
Title: Re: YouTube Censorship Against Raw Meat
Post by: smokeyquartz on March 01, 2021, 03:16:40 am
Just wanted to update this thread because it was about censhorship to begin with.

It looks like Asra Conlu's channel is back up, but without many of her previous videos.  Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/c/AsraConlu/videos

The oldest video on there is from 3 weeks ago from today (three weeks prior to February 28, so the beginning of February approximately).  So we could say she had been shut down for a little over a month.  As far as I can tell, there is no explanation from her regarding what happened, why her channel was shut down. 

Parler.com, the social media that is committed to free speech, is still in the process of getting back up after being shut down by it's host, Amazon.  Fyi - the word "parler" is a French word, meaning, "to speak."  In case you were wondering why they chose to name themselves that.  It's very fitting for a free-speech platform.  Hopefully it will be back up and totally functional soon.
Title: Re: YouTube Censorship Against Raw Meat
Post by: fireball on March 03, 2021, 06:23:30 am
Just wanted to update this thread because it was about censhorship to begin with.

It looks like Asra Conlu's channel is back up, but without many of her previous videos.  Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/c/AsraConlu/videos

The oldest video on there is from 3 weeks ago from today (three weeks prior to February 28, so the beginning of February approximately).  So we could say she had been shut down for a little over a month.  As far as I can tell, there is no explanation from her regarding what happened, why her channel was shut down. 

Parler.com, the social media that is committed to free speech, is still in the process of getting back up after being shut down by it's host, Amazon.  Fyi - the word "parler" is a French word, meaning, "to speak."  In case you were wondering why they chose to name themselves that.  It's very fitting for a free-speech platform.  Hopefully it will be back up and totally functional soon.

This is actually a new channel that she has created. It was created on Feb 7, 2021 according to the "About" section. She says:

"My old channel is temporarily archived. I will reopen it after the quarantine is over and my daughter is back at boarding school.
This new channel reflects my current cooked carnivore way of eating, which I’m happy to be able to share with my family.

SUBSCRIBE again, if you’d like to see what I’m up to these days. 🎈

This channel and my new Instagram account were launched February 2021. Love and health to you all!"

She has now stopped eating raw and quit dairy - milk and butter. She talks about it in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO89RH4W0SA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO89RH4W0SA)

It kind of makes me sad that she has ditched eating raw meats. Her ditching dairy doesn't bother me even though I do drink raw milk, but in her previous videos she was definitely well aware of Aajonus Vonderplanitz and seemed to completely go by and believe in his teachings. Now she is promoting eating cooked meat as if it as healthy as raw meat. It'd watch the whole video, but she talks about eating cooked meat at 2:50:

"The biggest lesson we have learned is that it matters little whether the meat is cooked or raw."

So are all of Aajonus' teachings about raw meat being superior because of the enzymes, bacteria and it being unaltered (which makes complete sense) just goes out of the window? We are the only living thing on Earth that eats cooked foods unless living things are given cooked foods by humans. Other living things thrive in nature eating raw.

I don't know why her previous raw channel was removed. Did Youtube censor because of the promotion of raw eating and Aajonus? Why is she waiting until quarantine is over before opening the channel? She could easily just reopen it now. It's also strange how she says this about her new channel:

"This new channel reflects my current cooked carnivore way of eating, which I’m happy to be able to share with my family. "