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Intestinal bleeding is greatly helped by cabbage juice. Try carrot/cabbage juice several times a day. No more than 25% cabbage. Make pints and add the cabbage last and drink immediatly. Cabbage oxidizes very quickly.there isn't any intestinal bleeding, diarrhea is mostly yellowish. Unable to get any raw milk here in Ohio. Raw butter is supposed to be here tomorrow, do you have any recommendations regarding it? Will also try the carot/cabbage juice. Good to hear from someone who read the book :) At this time my heart is starting to pound from dehydration, I hope i can absorb something, this is getting really scary. Sent Aajonus these questions but can't afford a consult.
Raw goat milk is also beneficial for ulcers.
First, I suggest you try having a heating pad on your stomach, whenever you can, even sleeping. This allowed me to get through a terrible case of food poisoning from oysters.All those sound good from my experience except the lemon juice and papaya, as acidic tropical fruits do a number on my stomach, but your mileage may vary. I have no idea about the effectiveness of salt on diarrhea or stomach upset. I have ginger and healing clays on hand myself in case of such problems in the future, and plan on getting activated charcoal. I've only tried the ginger so far, which worked pretty well. Nonhuman primates and other animals use charcoal, ash and clays, so I figure they know what they're doing after millions of years of living in the wild. Not just any clay can be consumed though, and you don't want to overdo it. Calcium is pretty good for diarrhea, particularly the less absorbable types like calcium carbonate from bone meal (as suggested), though its action can be insufficient in some people unless they take big doses, perhaps because of calcium deficiency.
Second, buy some activated charcoal as soon as you can, and start taking lots of that, like 5 times the recommended dose.
Third, you might want to try fresh ginger, ginger juice, or ginger capsules. Don't overdo the ginger, take only the recommended dose.
Fourth, try some fresh-squeezed lemon juice.
Fifth, try some fresh, ripe papaya.
Sixth, try some unrefined Sea Salt. Be careful with the brand, Celtic Gray and Fleur de Sel are the best by far.
Seventh, try some bone meal. This can be really good.
At least 2 or 3 of these will probably help a lot. Good luck, keep us posted.
All those sound good from my experience except the lemon juice and papaya, as acidic tropical fruits do a number on my stomach, but your mileage may vary. I have no idea about the effectiveness of salt on diarrhea or stomach upset. I have ginger and healing clays on hand myself in case of such problems in the future, and plan on getting activated charcoal. I've only tried the ginger so far, which worked pretty well. Nonhuman primates and other animals use charcoal, ash and clays, so I figure they know what they're doing after millions of years of living in the wild. Not just any clay can be consumed though, and you don't want to overdo it. Calcium is pretty good for diarrhea, particularly the less absorbable types like calcium carbonate from bone meal (as suggested), though its action can be insufficient in some people unless they take big doses, perhaps because of calcium deficiency.Thanks, i do have Terramin clay and have been taking that too with no results except that it calms down the cramping for a few minutes
Thanks, i do have Terramin clay and have been taking that too with no results except that it calms down the cramping for a few minutes
I havent' been having any vegie juice lately or meat because of the nausea and cramping. I am aware of the high sugar content of carrots and my juices were mostly celery with only 1/2 to 1 carrot. 4 to 5 ounces is all i ever had at a time and always never within 1hrs of eating meat as Aajonus suggests. As I said above, I can't even drink water without diarrhea and I am gettin severely dehydrated.I don't know what else to recommend beyond eating the foods you do best on (many do well on pasture-fed meats and animal fats) with fasting between meals and repleneshing fluid and electrolytes with mineral water and perhaps some salt, green clay and clay-based OTC remedies like kaopectate, activated charcoal, calcium carbonate, other OTC remedies like Immodium (that helped my mother) and seeing a doctor. No guarantees. If the diarrhea and dehydration is really severe you may be close to needing to go to the hospital for intravenous fluids and nutrients to avoid severe health damage.
If the diarrhea and dehydration is really severe you may be close to needing to go to the hospital for intravenous fluids and nutrients to avoid severe health damage.
Diet forums aren't designed to deal with severe health crises or diagnosing their causes.
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I live in Ohio, and have been unable to acquire any raw milk products so for my fats I have been eating eggs, coconut cream, high fat ground lamb, and that's all. However, I was able to find some unfrozen, unsalted raw butter in Tennessee, but that won't be here until tomorrow. So, I haven't had any dairy at all.
Ohio
Raw milk sales for human consumption are illegal. The state has adopted Section 9 of the Pasteurized Milk Ordinance which permits only the sale of pasteurized milk to the final consumer.
There are no state laws against the sale of raw milk for pet consumption. It is the policy of the state Department of Agriculture to permit on-farm sales of raw milk for pet consumption provided that the farmer posts signs stating that they are selling raw milk for pet consumption only.
Read updates from Ohio here. http://www.realmilk.com/update-oh.html
Tennessee
Raw milk sales for human consumption are illegal. The state Department of Agriculture has interpreted "sale" to even cover giving away raw milk and raw milk products. In 2003, a state representative introduced a bill to legalize raw milk, but the Tennessee Senate Agricultural Committee voted the bill down and it never reached the floor of the legislature.
Raw milk and raw milk product sales for pet consumption are legal, even though the state animal feed laws contain no specific provision about raw dairy products. Producers and sellers must obtain a commercial feed license from the state.
Update, Summer 09
VICTORY IN TENNESSEE
A bill formally legalizing cow shares has been passed by both the State House of Representatives and the Senate and signed into law by Governor Phil Bredesen on May 21. The bill simply states that nothing in the law “shall be construed as prohibiting the independent or partial owner of any hoofed mammal from using the milk from such animal for the owner’s personal consumption or other use.” The House sponsor of the bill was
Frank Nicely (R-Knoxville, District 17); the Senate sponsor was Mike Faulk (R-Kingsport, District 4). Congratulations to Brentwood WAPF Chapter Leader Shawn Dady and Tennesseans for Raw Milk (www.tennesseansforrawmilk.com) for their persistent efforts—-spanning several years-—in getting this legislation passed.
Details
Raw milk sales are illegal except as pet food. For a period, state authorities harassed dairy farmers selling raw milk and milk products labeled as pet food but this seems to have died down. There are a number of cow share programs in the state and a committee working on changing the law to allow on-farm sales.
Read updates from Jenny Drake of Peaceful Pastures and more about the effort to legalize raw milk sales in Tennessee. http://www.realmilk.com/update-tn.html
Find out more at www.tennesseansforrawmilk.com.
Then I ate a few bites of high meat made from organic (Krogers) chicken. A week later, don't know if the chicken caused it, I got very sick. I had a fever, pain all over my body, and nausea. I tried drinking lime with perrier every day to cleanse my blood. Then I began to have deep pain in my stomach and intestinal cramping.
The fever and body pain went away except for some occasional body pain, but the burning in the stomach and cramping and nausea has stayed with me along with diarrhea that began 2 1/2 weeks ago.
I am now unable to eat anything without severe nausea, cramping and diarrhea. I have tried eating only raw eggs, one every hour, for a day and now I can't even tolerate the idea of eating an egg. I can't drink water without cramping and diarrhea. I know that I am getting very dehydrated but don't know what to do. Yesterday I had about 8 ounces (2X4) of fresh tomato juice and 2 eggs, along with a few bites of unheated honey from Honey Pacifica.
I would never recommend using chicken for making high meat as even organic chickens are almost always raised on 100% or near-100% grain diets, sop naturally such an unhealthy diet is going to lead to the bird having mutated bacteria etc.
Fair enough,I began eating high meat maybe 5-6 weeks into eat raw. My digestion had been on the fritz for years due to my food allergies as well. All I've ever had from high meat was positive results. :)
I just wanted to know what this person did wrong and try to avoid it. I'm definitely not going to eat any high meats any time in the near future, probably not even a couple years into this diet if I'm being honest. And the thought of eating fermented chicken grosses me out. Red meat is a different story though.
....I'm not eating an Aajonus-style Primal Diet (I don't eat dairy or vegetable juices, for example)--there are differences between it and RPD. I also don't eat the nuts, pineapples and banana smoothies that sungazer was eating. I have started eating high meat (beef muscle and heart) without problems. I wouldn't continue to eat something if it were making me seriously ill, but the problem was sungazer didn't know for sure what was causing the problems. I don't know what the underlying problems were and it sounded like it was time to see a doctor to try to find out. Plus, Raw in Florida mentioned that sungazer's diet didn't even sound like the Primal Diet. I'm not well versed in it, but it did sound a bit different than what I've heard Aajonus discuss in his interviews.
We are all alive and well eating this way, as are many others :)
there are differences between it and RPD
I have been on the primal diet (have read and re-read Aajonus's book) for 3 months. For awhile my digestive system seemed pretty good except for a burning feeling in my stomach when I didn't eat often enough (I had this burning for a long time, even before I began this diet, probably an ulcer). Then I ate a few bites of high meat made from organic (Krogers) chicken. A week later, don't know if the chicken caused it, I got very sick. I had a fever, pain all over my body, and nausea. I tried drinking lime with perrier every day to cleanse my blood. Then I began to have deep pain in my stomach and intestinal cramping.
The fever and body pain went away except for some occasional body pain, but the burning in the stomach and cramping and nausea has stayed with me along with diarrhea that began 2 1/2 weeks ago.
I am now unable to eat anything without severe nausea, cramping and diarrhea. I have tried eating only raw eggs, one every hour, for a day and now I can't even tolerate the idea of eating an egg. I can't drink water without cramping and diarrhea. I know that I am getting very dehydrated but don't know what to do. Yesterday I had about 8 ounces (2X4) of fresh tomato juice and 2 eggs, along with a few bites of unheated honey from Honey Pacifica.
I live in Ohio, and have been unable to acquire any raw milk products so for my fats I have been eating eggs, coconut cream, high fat ground lamb, and that's all. However, I was able to find some unfrozen, unsalted raw butter in Tennessee, but that won't be here until tomorrow. So, I haven't had any dairy at all. Before this sickness got really bad I was eating raw lamb or buffalo with eggs twice a day. I was also having fresh vegie juice made from mostly celery and 1 carrrot or some beet. And, I ate fresh pineapple with eggs nearly every day. I don't eat anything that isn't part of the primal diet-nothing cooked, or processed at all. Everything I buy is organic. I haven't been able to afford/find fresh, wild caught, ocean fish at all; very low income because of past poor health limitations. My local grocery stores say they can't even order it. I know I really need to leave Ohio and go somewhere where there is food.
To try and stop this diarrhea, I have tried the nut formula (twice in one week) made with raw sunflower seeds or raw walnuts, and coconut cream. I have also tried banana smoothies. Neither of these have worked. So far, I have avoided trying cooked starch because I really didn't want to eat anything that would put more toxins in my body.
I have diarrhea as soon as I wake up in the morning along with cramping, and then more throughout the day. I am losing some weight and was too thin to begin with. i don't know how to stop this diarrhea. I have some high meat made from ground lamb that will be ready in about a week and don't know if I should try some with the butter that is coming. I am getting very weak and was weak to begin with. The diarrhea is yellowish. I wonder if the high meat chicken I ate a week before I got sick might have had some mutated bacteria that could have done this to me, I just don't know. I am afraid I am going to die from dehydration and/or starve.
Any of you know what to do?