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Title: Honey for digestion?
Post by: Coatue on December 09, 2010, 01:33:47 pm
I saw someone mention eating raw honey with raw meat. Should one eat raw honey with raw meat? If so, why and how much?
Title: Re: Honey for digestion?
Post by: laterade on December 09, 2010, 02:51:41 pm
I do, when I started out it worked wonders with helping to put the meat down.
Now I just have honey sitting around and grab a scoop whenever I feel like it.
Usually before or after meat because I now prefer to mono-meal.

AVonderplanitz seems to think anyone can eat however much they want.
I think people should use discretion, but I have never had "too much" and I eat it every day.
Title: Re: Honey for digestion?
Post by: TylerDurden on December 09, 2010, 03:51:07 pm
I had severe digestive problems when I first switched to rawpalaeo and found then that mixing foods, especially radically different foods such as  honey with meat, was a really bad idea.
Title: Re: Honey for digestion?
Post by: raw-al on December 10, 2010, 02:39:25 am
I find that honey gives a nice taste although I only eat a small amount with meat. Normally I snack on it with raw butter probably 4 butter to 1 raw honey.
Title: Re: Honey for digestion?
Post by: yuli on December 10, 2010, 02:48:16 am
Butter with honey definitely kicks ass together....
You can even melt the butter first (BTW you can have the heat on just warm and it will melt fine), then mix in honey, mix it together evenly and then let it solidify in the fridge, and you have honey-butter, ta da!
I make "chocolate" like that too as a treat (rarely do this), add cocoa to above mixture, mix and fridge it and you have chocolate butter, amazing...

I can't eat honey and meat at the same time... it can be close together but not at the same time, maybe if you make jerky it can work, never tried.

I find that honey gives a nice taste although I only eat a small amount with meat. Normally I snack on it with raw butter probably 4 butter to 1 raw honey.
Title: Re: Honey for digestion?
Post by: kurite on December 10, 2010, 10:55:21 am
I had severe digestive problems when I first switched to rawpalaeo and found then that mixing foods, especially radically different foods such as  honey with meat, was a really bad idea.
Wut he said
Title: Re: Honey for digestion?
Post by: bharminder on December 10, 2010, 01:00:29 pm
I've never mixed honey with meat. I'm not sure if it helps digestion or not. But I like the taste so I eat it and pretend it helps me with digestion =]


I think digestion problems can often be fixed by a day or two of water fasting. That clears out the digestive tract, gives it a period of time to relax and take a break from life, and allows the body to fix any digestion related problems that may not be there the next time you eat.
Title: Re: Honey for digestion?
Post by: Hannibal on December 10, 2010, 01:35:43 pm
Butter with honey definitely kicks ass together...
http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/butter-and-insulin.html
Title: Re: Honey for digestion?
Post by: Iguana on December 10, 2010, 04:46:06 pm
I saw someone mention eating raw honey with raw meat. Should one eat raw honey with raw meat? If so, why and how much?

Crazy idea. The best way to generate a lot of AGEs!
Title: Re: Honey for digestion?
Post by: Hannibal on December 10, 2010, 07:39:37 pm
The best way to generate a lot of AGEs!
Could you elaborate more on this?
Title: Re: Honey for digestion?
Post by: Iguana on December 10, 2010, 08:31:02 pm
Yes, in two words, AGEs (Advanced Gylcation Endproducts) are formed by chemical reactions between sugars and proteins. So, mixing a lot of sugars and proteins in the stomach is certainly not a good idea.

For example : http://clinical.diabetesjournals.org/content/21/4/186.full
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AGEs are a heterogeneous group of molecules formed from the nonenzymatic reaction of reducing sugars with free amino groups of proteins, lipids, and nucleic acids.
Title: Re: Honey for digestion?
Post by: Hannibal on December 10, 2010, 08:35:25 pm
Yes, in two words, AGEs (Advanced Gylcation Endproducts) are formed by chemical reactions between sugars and proteins. So, mixing a lot of sugars and proteins in the stomach is certainly not a good idea.
Yeah, I know.
But one can eat small amounts of honey with meat.
I myself don't do it; just curious about this aspect.
What about nuts which cotain proteins and carbs?
What about some shellfish?
Title: Re: Honey for digestion?
Post by: TylerDurden on December 10, 2010, 08:47:20 pm
Yes, in two words, AGEs (Advanced Gylcation Endproducts) are formed by chemical reactions between sugars and proteins. So, mixing a lot of sugars and proteins in the stomach is certainly not a good idea.

For example : http://clinical.diabetesjournals.org/content/21/4/186.full
Last I checked, AGEs are only formed by cooking(?), and not just being reactions between proteins and sugars, but also between proteins and fats(such as in alpha-lipoxidation end products, a subset-type of AGEs).

There are tiny amounts of AGEs formed naturally within the body, but these are microscopic by comparison to AGEs formed in cooked foods.