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Title: egg whites for vision
Post by: SoulJourner on February 11, 2011, 08:38:09 am
Curious if anyone has tried egg white washes in the eyes to improve vision?  AV talks about beginning to use the technique in his book.  Has anyone heard updates about it?
Title: Re: egg whites for vision
Post by: Hannibal on February 13, 2011, 02:04:53 pm
You mean in "Recipe..."? On which page?
If it's true tt would be really amazing.
Now throw away the whites, as I eat only the yolks.
Title: Re: egg whites for vision
Post by: achillezzz on February 14, 2011, 01:26:15 am
You mean in "Recipe..."? On which page?
If it's true tt would be really amazing.
Now throw away the whites, as I eat only the yolks.

I throw the whites away too wtf

recipe to live without disease? what pagee??
Title: Re: egg whites for vision
Post by: SoulJourner on February 14, 2011, 05:23:27 am
In my copy of "We Want To Live" it's pp 249-250, under "vision." At that time he had been experimenting with washing his eyes with raw egg whites a couple times a week, and had continual, gradual improvement in vision.
Title: Re: egg whites for vision
Post by: PaleoPhil on February 14, 2011, 06:02:16 am
Adding 1-2 drops of raw egg white (from antibioticfree and hormonefree chickens) to the eyes once or twice daily gradually and continuously improved vision. We Want to Live: The Primal Diet, p. 323, 1997 edition
Title: Re: egg whites for vision
Post by: Hannibal on February 14, 2011, 01:03:14 pm
Directly onto the eyes or only on the eyelids?
Btw, is there any scientific vindication of this theory?
Title: Re: egg whites for vision
Post by: TylerDurden on February 14, 2011, 06:30:08 pm
Well, I am sure that raw foods get rid of inflammation, as they are known for that. So, someone who has perpetually inflamed/bloodshot eyes due to stress at work etc., would certainly benefit therefrom. Not that sure re the notion that it permanently improves eyesight to normal, though.
Title: Re: egg whites for vision
Post by: michaelwh on February 14, 2011, 09:46:24 pm
Directly onto the eyes or only on the eyelids?
Btw, is there any scientific vindication of this theory?

Directly onto the eyes.
Title: Re: egg whites for vision
Post by: Hannibal on February 14, 2011, 11:37:41 pm
Directly onto the eyes. 
And how long these whites should be kept on the eyes?
Title: Re: egg whites for vision
Post by: michaelwh on February 15, 2011, 05:32:09 am
And how long these whites should be kept on the eyes?

Put your head back, apply the egg white, roll your head/eyes around a bit (maybe 30 sec) to get the egg white all over the eyes, then bring your head upright. Don't rinse your eyes. Just gently wipe under your eyes so you don't get egg white all over your face.

I occasionally do this, but not on a regular basis. I don't have any vision problems (in fact, I'm literally the only one in my entire extended family without glasses), but I would like to improve my tolerance to bright sunlight.

In a recent workshop, Aajonus also recommended applying melted butter to the eyes. One day egg white, next day butter, next day egg white again, etc. I haven't tried this.
Title: Re: egg whites for vision
Post by: PaleoPhil on February 15, 2011, 07:24:39 am
Btw, is there any scientific vindication of this theory?
I'm not aware of any and AV didn't provide any.
Title: Re: egg whites for vision
Post by: Ioanna on February 15, 2011, 08:51:31 am
ok, it's been a couple of days... who has tried this?? ;D
Title: Re: egg whites for vision
Post by: Hannibal on February 15, 2011, 12:19:48 pm
ok, it's been a couple of days... who has tried this?? ;D
I will try this today, as I'm goting to eat some egg yolks.  8)
Title: Re: egg whites for vision
Post by: michaelwh on February 15, 2011, 01:24:50 pm
I'm not aware of any and AV didn't provide any.

If you asked AV, he would probably say something along the following lines:

If we are unhealthy and are surrounded by toxins and pollution, then our nutrient requirements exceed our nutrient intakes. So the body has to compromise and prioritize, which tissues get which nutrients. Most of the nutrients  end up going to the essential tissues, while the non-essential tissues (such as skin and eyes) get deprived. One way to get more nutrients in, is to feed some of these tissues "from the outside".

It is well understood that the skin can absorb many different substances. (And that's why it's a bad idea to use toxic non-food soaps and creams and lotions). Aajonus is basically saying that the eye can absorb things in a similar manner. If you want scientific validation of this, you should look into books about biology of the eye, and see what they say about the eye membrane, and mechanisms for transporting various substances across it.

Or, if you just want to know that it's plausible, and aren't interested in the details, consider this:
If you go to a drug store, you'll see aisles full of various patented eye drops, eye sprays, and eye washes. Obviously, lots of studies have been done on these products, both clinical and theoretical. Some of these products can affect the working of the eye in a rather sophisticated manner. So it's quite plausible that some substances in the egg white can also affect the eye in a sophisticated manner, and heal it. But nobody's going to study egg white specifically, because you can't patent it.
Title: Re: egg whites for vision
Post by: Hannibal on February 15, 2011, 01:52:36 pm
I guess that it's not good to whip the egg whites until they have a foamy texture? Even for the external use?
Or maybe the oxidation of the whites is not significent in comparison to yolks
Title: Re: egg whites for vision
Post by: Ioanna on February 16, 2011, 07:29:03 am
One way to get more nutrients in, is to feed some of these tissues "from the outside".

It is well understood that the skin can absorb many different substances. (And that's why it's a bad idea to use toxic non-food soaps and creams and lotions).

i've read that 'if you wouldn't ingest, then you shouldn't put it on your skin", but i like what you wrote.. it's a stronger message.
Title: Re: egg whites for vision
Post by: KD on February 18, 2011, 12:11:37 am
ok, it's been a couple of days... who has tried this?? ;D

i've been doing it a few weeks since this original thread

http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/hot-topics/blood-shot-eyes/msg62066/#msg62066


more as a novelty. I don't have vision issues but I have some redness that can really only be seen when I look the the corner and such.

It hasn't seemed to work much magic in that regard (was hopeing for a purey white beauty) but it does seem to make my overall eye look crisper, hard to describe...or maybe I can just see my eye better LOL.

anyway...I usually trust michaelwh's info, but for me at least I can not do this without washing with filtered water afterward. I tried just leaving it in a number of times and wiping my face and I started to harden up like a vampire at dawn. Then again I just used a bottle top and got egg white everywhere. If you ever used the product 'new skin' back in the day..thats sorta what it looked like. :)

Title: Re: egg whites for vision
Post by: michaelwh on February 19, 2011, 10:36:25 am
anyway...I usually trust michaelwh's info, but for me at least I can not do this without washing with filtered water afterward. I tried just leaving it in a number of times and wiping my face and I started to harden up like a vampire at dawn. Then again I just used a bottle top and got egg white everywhere. If you ever used the product 'new skin' back in the day..thats sorta what it looked like. :)

Yes, if you get egg white on your face and it dries, then your skin will harden like that. It has happened to me too. Some people do it deliberately (egg white face mask, google it). If necessary, I use water to get the egg white off my face. But I don't put the water in my eyes. I've also tried using an eyedropper. It's more controlled than eye cups. But you need to use egg whites that are very runny. Thick gooey egg whites don't work well with an eyedropper.
Title: Re: egg whites for vision
Post by: CitrusHigh on March 27, 2011, 10:18:27 pm
Runny whites typically represent a less than ideally raised egg.

I wonder which is more effective, liquefying the goo in the blender to make it dropper friendly or using the more liquidy white as is. Obviously a blender is going to damage the white a bit, but maybe it makes up the difference with higher quality raw materials.
Title: Re: egg whites for vision
Post by: raw-al on April 02, 2011, 09:20:21 pm
The cooling of the eyes may factor into it. Ayurveda suggests that eyes being organs of Pitta (heat, sort of) are very susceptible to heat and so cooling them is generally a good idea. (up to a point naturally) Spraying or daubing a bit of rose water on the closed lids feels great also.


I've also posted in other threads about the usefulness of properly done sungazing for improving vision.