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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: Raw Kyle on April 14, 2011, 09:38:44 am
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I'm going to this with our own famous Lex Rooker. Anyone else interested?
http://ancestryfoundation.org/ (http://ancestryfoundation.org/)
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By coincidence I had checked today to see how that symposium was coming along and happened to see that Lex had signed up.
I think Lex should be a speaker rather than a guest. He is an excellent speaker and the symposium needs a representative from the raw side of the Paleoverse, preferably Lex or Denise Minger. The rest of the community has yet to take raw-Paleo seriously so there is a need for someone from within our general sphere to provide the raw perspective and show that it is not complete nonsense followed only by morons and the insane.
Or if Lex won't do it, then perhaps you would be up for it, Kyle? It might fit in well with your career aspirations. Best to wear a shirt, though. ;)
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I'd rather be a speaker maybe next year or in a few years after doing some research at school so as to have some credentials. All I could really say now is "we think in paleo times people probably cooked their food less or not at all...blah blah blah." Not too interesting.
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Thanks for making the post Kyle. I believe Danny Roddy will be attending with us as well. He lives here in the Los Angeles area and we get together for a rare steak on a regular basis.
Actually I wasn't going to attend the symposium, but Kyle and Danny shamed me into it.
Lex
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LOL, good work Kyle and Danny!
I checked the speaker list and it's tightly packed, with each speaker only getting 20-30 minutes, so it may not be possible for Lex to speak. But maybe it might still be possible if one of the TBA's doesn't show?
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Anyone know if tickets are still available to this?
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I think Lex should be a speaker rather than a guest. He is an excellent speaker and the symposium needs a representative from the raw side of the Paleoverse, preferably Lex or Denise Minger.
FYI Minger is on the speaker list!
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Oooh, neat, thanks! I hope a video becomes available for her talk.
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FYI Denise Minger is also on the speaker list for the annual Weston A. Price symposium - this year to be held in Texas. Go Denise! ;D
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*bump* a few days until the symposium. Anyone else decided to come?
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From Minger's blog July 31, 2011, emphasis mine):
First item of business: The Ancestral Health Symposium. Due to some serendipitous events, it turns out I'll be presenting at this hyperventilation-inducingly-awesome event next week. My lecture is at 10:00 AM on August 6th in the Rolfe 1200 auditorium. If you're lucky enough to have a ticket, I hope to see you there, and to verify my existence for anyone who still thinks I'm a meat industry puppet. Otherwise, unless PETA pops in and sets fire to UCLA, all the presentations should be available online for free shortly after the symposium is over. Woohoo!
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I'll be glad to meet her ;)
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The Ancestral Health Symposium is in motion. There have apparently already been some pugilistics, or at least some disagreement ;) , between two of the most highly regarded luminaries in cooked Paleo circles--Stephan Guyenet and Gary Taubes. Sounds interesting. Looking forward to seeing the videos that are supposed to come out. You can get the Twitter blow-by-blow from Jimmy Moore and others at http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23ahs11
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How was it everyone?
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Symposium was very good. Some presenters were a bit amateurish but most were good and some outstanding (Taubes, Eades and Naughton). Here are pictures that I took with Dr. Eades and Denise Minger as well as a group shot of myself, Lex Rooker, Bill Mullan and Danny Roddy; we palled around together at the event. Also are some of the posters that were being presented.
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c121/geniusbits/cali22.jpg)
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c121/geniusbits/cali23.jpg)
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Cool, Kyle. You're looking good.
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Cool, Kyle. You're looking good.
Thanks. I wish I could have gotten more pictures with other people.
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awesome.
did you discuss your diet or own ideas with some of these honchos?
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did you discuss your diet or own ideas with some of these honchos?
Not at all, it was busy and I spent all of my time listening to lectures. I think a couple of people asked Lex and I what we were eating one day but that was about it.
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Good looking woman, there.
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Any word if there will be another symposium in 2012? Really regret not going to this one. Looks like it was great.
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Here are video presentations from 2011 symposium
http://vimeo.com/ancestralhealthsymposium
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I'm going through the videos one at a time. Some are pretty interesting, others, well... Anyone have a strong reaction to anything they've seen so far?
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I'm going through the videos one at a time. Some are pretty interesting, others, well... Anyone have a strong reaction to anything they've seen so far?
I strongly disliked most of Boyd Eaton's talk. It came across, especially at the end, as more of a pro-social engineering talk rather than a health oriented talk about paleo diet and lifestyle. It was very strange.
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Social engineering, eh? I'll have to bump that one up the list. I might get to listen to it later this evening. But right now I have a sunset over Lake Champlain to catch.
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I don't see Boyd Eaton's presentation at Vimeo.
Super-genius and Paleo babe Diane Minger had some interesting comments and mentioned our own Lex Rooker. Along with Lex and Diane there were other people at the AHS who seem to follow diets that would fit one of the sections of this forum: Danny Roddy, Arvind and Dr. Guy-Andre Pelouz of France. Is anyone familiar with Dr. Guy-Andre Pelouz? His approach sounds Instincto.
Some excerpts from Diane's comments:
Ancestral Health Symposium Thoughts, Paleo Vegetarianism, and Other Fun Things
http://rawfoodsos.com/2011/08/13/ancestral-health-symposium/
Diversity. I was pleasantly surprised by the range of ancestrally-inspired diets represented there. If you’ve read much of this blog, you probably know that my own diet is an unconventional blend of raw foods, paleo, and Weston A. Price principles—and up until now, I was never quite sure there was room for me within the “ancestral health” umbrella. This symposium changed my mind about that. Some speakers (and attendees) were of the low-carb persuasion, like Michael Eades and Gary Taubes. Others were either macronutrient-agnostic or welcomed a higher-carbohydrate approach, like Stephan Guyenet and Don Matesz. I shared a fructoselicious grapefruit lunch with Danny Roddy, whose own diet experiments led him to an eating style much like mine. I met an intriguing fellow named Lex Rooker who’s been eating but nothing but raw meat for the past decade, and on the other end of the spectrum, a “lacto-ovo paleo” dieter who eats no meat or fish (more on him in a moment).
All in all, the symposium reflected a major element of the ancestral health community, which is that there is no single ‘paleo’ diet. I’m confident in saying that the symposium would be a great experience for anyone interested in using an ancestral framework to improve their health, whether or not you consider yourself “paleo” by the popular definition. There was very little of the unchallenged groupthink sometimes infusing this type of event, and plenty of encouragement to question convictions about diet and fitness. Some intellectual dueling even occurred between two well-respected figures, Stephan Guyenet and Gary Taubes. The overall vibe was more “tribe” than “cult.” And that is a very good thing indeed.
...for sailing my China Study critique all over the ‘net (also, his wife is one foxy lady);
Danny Roddy, lover of raw fish and tropical fruit, who stole my diet but is so cool that I won’t even consider suing him over it
... As Robb Wolf commented at the end of my speech, it’s better to spend your time helping people who are already receptive to change—otherwise, you can waste a lot of time shouting into deaf ears.
I had the pleasure of meeting a bona-fide meat-free, lacto-ovo paleo dieter. For real. This brave soul (let’s call him Aravind, because that’s his name) came to the symposium not because he wanted to freeload off beef jerky samples, but because he tailors what most people would consider a “vegetarian” diet into an ancestral framework. No grains except white rice for him. No excess fructose. No industrial seed oils. No soy—only small amounts of traditionally-prepared legumes. The only thing that separates him from the rest of the crowd is that his sole animal products are eggs and high-quality, grass-fed dairy.
And indeed, Aravind appeared to be in mighty fine health. ....
"Dr. Pelouze is a french cardiovascular surgeon who strongly supports the food reward/palatability concept of obesity. We had a conversation the evening before the conference, during which he basically made the same points I was going to make in my talk. He is particularly familiar with the research of Dr. Michel Cabanac, who is central to the food reward idea. He eats an interesting diet: mostly raw, omnivorous, and extremely simple. If I understood correctly, he mostly eats raw meat, fish, fruit and vegetables with little or no preparation. He sometimes cooks food if he wants to, but most of it is raw. He believes simple, raw food allows the body's satiety systems to work more effectively. He has been eating this way for more than twenty years, and his son was raised this way and is now about my age (if I recall correctly, Alexandre has a masters and is studying for an MD, and ultimately wants to become an MD/PhD). Both of them look very good, are full of energy and have a remarkably positive mental state. Alexandre told me that he never felt deprived growing up around other children who ate pastries, candy et cetera. They woke up early and ran six miles before the conference began at 8 am." --Stephan Guyenet, http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2011/08/ancestral-health-symposium.html
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I strongly disliked most of Boyd Eaton's talk. It came across, especially at the end, as more of a pro-social engineering talk rather than a health oriented talk about paleo diet and lifestyle. It was very strange.
Dr. Eaton's presentation seemed strange to me, too. He sounded unprepared, as if he forgot his slide show and was using someone else's, but he didn't know what to say until he advanced each slide. Yes, I agree, it was not what I expected in the paleo diet/lifestyle vein.
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An article and photo with an RPD'er in the background.
http://nutrition-and-physical-regeneration.com/blog/4393/research/slay-giant-denise-minger-story/ (http://nutrition-and-physical-regeneration.com/blog/4393/research/slay-giant-denise-minger-story/)
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Aaarrrggh! Just noticed while doing a forum search, looking for some info, that I wrote "Diane Minger" instead of the correct "Denise Minger."